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AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash

 
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Cannabis does not cause a person to act a different way then they would normally act. The person believing that it is going to make them that way is what causes that affect, not cannabis. If someone does something dumb after they smoke, they would have done the same thing even if they have not smoked. These people need to stop blaming a PLANT for what they are doing and start blaming THEMSELVES.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
I see this as propaganda against legalization of marijuana.
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I see it as being propaganda IN FAVOR of legalisation...remeber the dialectical process is always at play. Look at the backlash this could create....
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Op , you're the biggest idiot i've encountered all week. Congrats.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
Even if the driver tested negative for drugs, he would have still received at least 4 felonies. You don't get to kill 3 people while driving 110 MPH and get a slp on the hand.

Manslaughter is a felony whether it was done with intent (voluntary) or by neglect (involuntary).

The sentence is about ths same.
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When will you potheads learn that marijuana is a DRUG.....it does not need to be legalized. Alcohol being legal is bad enough. Marijuana slows your perception.....these deaths could have been prevented if this kid didn't get "high" before driving. Another lesson to be learned.
 Quoting: MayanGod


Ridiculous excuse for a teenager acting irresponsibly. Alcohol causes THOUSANDS of driving related deaths PER YEAR, so why not ban alcohol first?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17114980


Fuck, The only thing I see in common is the car. Maybe we should just ban cars...Let's BAN everything...RETARDS!!!!! Don't get me wrong,it is terrible that this happened to these young kids, but Life is dangerous, you can die doing it!!!
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
shouldnt be aload to even start driving lessons until your 21 in my opinion.
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I agree with this. I didn't allow my kids to drive when they were just teens. Just last night, I was thinking about all the wealthy young kids who died in fiery, high-speed crashes -- oh, about 35-40 years ago. They had the world at their fingertips, and lost it with one wrong, careless decision.

You want to talk about drugs and driving under the influence... how about all the majority of the population who are messed up on prescription pharmaceuticals? Would you care to outlaw those too? It's only fair.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
Here we go again. Google alcohol related deaths in USA per year, then marijuana related deaths per year. Big difference. Probably was a mechancial problem or perhaps one of his drunk friends stomped their foot on the throttle complaining he was going to slow. Wait for the facts.
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When will you potheads learn that marijuana is a DRUG.....it does not need to be legalized. Alcohol being legal is bad enough. Marijuana slows your perception.....these deaths could have been prevented if this kid didn't get "high" before driving. Another lesson to be learned.
 Quoting: MayanGod


Hello!?

He was going 110Mph! Even IF his reaction time was slowed because he was high, at that speed you have maybe half a second to react to ANY obstacle. Anyway you cut it, the primary cause of the crash was speeding. Chalk it up to an idiot kid trying to impress his friends with his driving skills. I assure you, the road he was driving on was not intended to be traveled on at that speed.
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I see this as propaganda against legalization of marijuana.
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OP is a shill. He's probably being paid by a CO state anti-MJ lobbyist.
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I see this as propaganda against legalization of marijuana.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27834799


OP is a shill. He's probably being paid by a CO state anti-MJ lobbyist.
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Undoubtedly.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
When will you potheads learn that marijuana is a DRUG.....it does not need to be legalized. Alcohol being legal is bad enough. Marijuana slows your perception.....these deaths could have been prevented if this kid didn't get "high" before driving. Another lesson to be learned.
 Quoting: MayanGod


The fact he didnt even have his license, was a teen and never drove at night...at 110mph...was why he crashed. Without the pot, he would have been going 150.
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They have tests now that can determine if you are high at the moment of the crash. They've gotten really technical on how much THC ppm are in your system and can have you arrested for it. He was probably stoned at the time, but I seriously doubt weed had anything to do with it.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
Even if he was stoned, it probably had nothing to do with the crash. He's probably just a shitty driver.
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was this kid smoking tons of WAX and HASH? who the fuck gets high and thinks driving 110mph+ is a good idea, he was prob high if it was in his blood system, thc only stay in your blood system for a couple hours, stores in your fat cells for months but not the blood unless you burn fat then it can return to your blood for a little bit.

I feel sorry those kids died cause of 1 kid going full retard.
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"...driving more than 110 mph..." "...learners permit..."

I Do not think marijuana had much to do with it, boys and cars do not need any help to do stupid stuff. All were along for the ride, all share responsibility. 25 years in jail will not fix anything.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
yet alcohol related deaths kill WAY more people every day and no one wants to ban alcohol!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21416459


SO WHAT IS THEIR REASONING FOR THIS THEN?


THEY ARE RUINING ANOTHER LIFE OF AN INNOCENT, IN ORDER TO RUIN MORE LIVES OR MORE INNOCENTS!

IF ALCOHOL KILLS TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE EACH YEAR, FROM THESE ACCIDENTS.

AND THIS HAPPENED ONE TIME. AND THIS IS TO BE BLAMED AND BANNED, MADE ILLEGAL.

THEN HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF TIMES DOES IT HAVE TO HAPPEN UNTIL ALCOHOL IS BANNED? WHERE IS THE LOGIC?

TO KEEP YOU A STUPID, PITIFUL, HELPLESS, IGNORANCE SLAVE! WAKE UP!



SINCE MARIJUANA CAN CURE CANCER AND HEAL ILLNESS, WHY WOULD ONE ACCIDENT WHERE IT WASN'T EVEN THE CAUSE, BE ENOUGH TO WARRANT THE IDEA OF BANNING IT?

ALCOHOL KILLS EVERYDAY, WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT ALCOHOL, LIVER DISEASE, ETC, THAT THEY WANT?


THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL YOU, THIS IS YOUR SPECIES LAST CHANGE TO AWAKEN
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
Now! Think!

Marijuana stays illegal! Because this guy crashed!

Now the kids drink more! Because it's around!

Instead of like in Colorado, where driving deaths, violent crimes and murder goes down!

It will all rise and sky rocket! More kids will die!

More people will get disease and cancer!

So they save those two kids lives, by ruining this kids life (which doesn't even make sense).

And to support the nation, they introduce more and more death and disease, without respectful and honest assessment of the situation.

They want you to eat each other alive.

Wake up.

You cannot live like this. It is spiritually impotent.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
When will you potheads learn that marijuana is a DRUG.....it does not need to be legalized. Alcohol being legal is bad enough. Marijuana slows your perception.....these deaths could have been prevented if this kid didn't get "high" before driving. Another lesson to be learned.
 Quoting: MayanGod


The fact he didnt even have his license, was a teen and never drove at night...at 110mph...was why he crashed. Without the pot, he would have been going 150.
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I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


They have new tests Trin. They can do a blood or urine test and determine if you've smoked in the past few hours, and they're getting better at it. I crashed once when I was 16, completely sober, but they did a drug and alcohol test (even though I smoked a ton of weed the night before) and couldn't arrest me for DUI because they didn't have proof that I was high at the time. Now they can do those tests. Be careful pot smokers!

On a side note, I do have medical MJ for my Parkinson's. I completely stop shaking when I smoke, but I never drive high.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
i guess no one else is picking up on the FACT that this is a case where prosecutors are trying to blame weed in a mvc,... and the defendants last name is BEER.

hmm.

like others have said, "herb" is stored in the fat cells of the body which could be stored for months.

did the toxocology/autopsy of the friends reveal anything,.. were they using any other substances? alcohol, meth, cocaine?

this is NOT the full picture.
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i guess no one else is picking up on the FACT that this is a case where prosecutors are trying to blame weed in a mvc,... and the defendants last name is BEER.

hmm.

like others have said, "herb" is stored in the fat cells of the body which could be stored for months.

did the toxocology/autopsy of the friends reveal anything,.. were they using any other substances? alcohol, meth, cocaine?

this is NOT the full picture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10189969


Yes, I picked up on it. Yes, something stinks here. You're right, the full picture is missing.
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Aren't you supposed to drive slow after smoking bud?
Some factors are missing here
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


THC itself only stays in your system for a few hours before breaking down into metabolites which can stay in your system for much longer.

Did he test positive for actual THC in bloodstream or metabolites?
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I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


THC itself only stays in your system for a few hours before breaking down into metabolites which can stay in your system for much longer.

Did he test positive for actual THC in bloodstream or metabolites?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16999455


Read before libel. Read the thread, you goof!
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THC will be present for 30-60days after smoking it.. This proves nothing! It doesn't mean he was "high" when this happened.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
THC will be present for 30-60days after smoking it.. This proves nothing! It doesn't mean he was "high" when this happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19766216


Again, read the thread. They have better testing methods now. The gov't can tell when you last inhaled almost to the 1/2 hour now. Just wait a few years.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


THC itself only stays in your system for a few hours before breaking down into metabolites which can stay in your system for much longer.

Did he test positive for actual THC in bloodstream or metabolites?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16999455


Read before libel. Read the thread, you goof!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27941998


I did read the thread and the article. Where are the actual results of the test posted? I must have missed it, moran.

I don't think you understand my point and question.
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Trying to stop legalization now that's finally starting!
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I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


THISclappa
 Quoting: CtYankee


That just proves even more how bad marijuana is....that poison stays in the system for months! At least alcohol leaves in 3 days. On top of that, marijuana had been PROVEN to make some people paranoid. Alcohol never does. I'm not saying alcohol is better, I'm just saying marijuana is a DRUG. How do you know the kid didn't get a panic attack while stoned and ended up losing focus while driving???
 Quoting: MayanGod


Caffeine is a drug, should we make that illegal too?
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THC will be present for 30-60days after smoking it.. This proves nothing! It doesn't mean he was "high" when this happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19766216


Again, read the thread. They have better testing methods now. The gov't can tell when you last inhaled almost to the 1/2 hour now. Just wait a few years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27941998




Didn't know this. Damn police state!

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