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AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash

 
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I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


THC itself only stays in your system for a few hours before breaking down into metabolites which can stay in your system for much longer.

Did he test positive for actual THC in bloodstream or metabolites?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16999455


Read before libel. Read the thread, you goof!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27941998


I did read the thread and the article. Where are the actual results of the test posted? I must have missed it, moran.

I don't think you understand my point and question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16999455


Sorry, didn't mean to make you angry. They do have tests now and almost every state uses them. They can tell when you last smoked by the ppm in your bloodstream up to a point. No harm meant, my bad to attack you. Look it up, though.
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"On top of that, marijuana had been PROVEN to make some people paranoid. Alcohol never does."

Right, it makes people more ~cautious; alcohol does the exact opposite, make them lose their inhibitions. That's why most people (perhaps those who are already overly cautious) who experience intense paranoia from weed, usually stop smoking it and don't like it much. But alcohol is addictive due to its effect on inhibitions, because some people really like the grandiose feelings and thrill-seeking, risky behavior precipitated by its use.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
I drive drunk all the time and I never have gotten into accident.
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This has nothing to do with weed. The kid was a shitty driver, and should not have been behind the wheel. How does weed even come into play here..? You make no sense.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
so they blamed it on weed, when it was 4 wild teenagers being 4 wild teenagers in a car doing over 100mph at 4 am

im sorry but that has to do as much with the weed as it does with him eating pizza last night.


it doesnt take wweed for that crash to happen

btw i smoke weed everyday and i drive stoned everyday and not once did i crash. in fact sometimes i drive WHILE i toke and i STILL catch dumbasses
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
When will you potheads learn that marijuana is a DRUG.....it does not need to be legalized. Alcohol being legal is bad enough. Marijuana slows your perception.....these deaths could have been prevented if this kid didn't get "high" before driving. Another lesson to be learned.
 Quoting: MayanGod


Rubbish! These deaths could have been prevented if he had

a) passed his test
b) not been driving at 110mph
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
Even if he was stoned, it probably had nothing to do with the crash. He's probably just a shitty driver.
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Pot has zero effect on driving, except for making you a more cautious driver. If I were on a jury for a case like this I would completely throw out any notion of DUI based on pot. Fucking ridiculous, it's all pissed off family members not thinking straight. Can't blame them but they are idiots.
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"On top of that, marijuana had been PROVEN to make some people paranoid. Alcohol never does."

Right, it makes people more ~cautious; alcohol does the exact opposite, make them lose their inhibitions. That's why most people (perhaps those who are already overly cautious) who experience intense paranoia from weed, usually stop smoking it and don't like it much. But alcohol is addictive due to its effect on inhibitions, because some people really like the grandiose feelings and thrill-seeking, risky behavior precipitated by its use.
 Quoting: shenandoah


exaxtly.

weed drivers are far safer than alcohol drivers because weed drivers OVERanalyze the situation while drunks UNDERANALYZE and take their chances
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I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


drugs is a pretty open ended word
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I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


drugs is a pretty open ended word
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People, read about the new techniques on drug testing. You'll be very surprised.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
"On top of that, marijuana had been PROVEN to make some people paranoid. Alcohol never does."

Right, it makes people more ~cautious; alcohol does the exact opposite, make them lose their inhibitions. That's why most people (perhaps those who are already overly cautious) who experience intense paranoia from weed, usually stop smoking it and don't like it much. But alcohol is addictive due to its effect on inhibitions, because some people really like the grandiose feelings and thrill-seeking, risky behavior precipitated by its use.
 Quoting: shenandoah


exaxtly.

weed drivers are far safer than alcohol drivers because weed drivers OVERanalyze the situation while drunks UNDERANALYZE and take their chances
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23890563


I agree, but I did have a friend have a panic attack after smoking weed. I had to take over the wheel. Everyone's body chemistry is different.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
When will you potheads learn that marijuana is a DRUG.....it does not need to be legalized. Alcohol being legal is bad enough. Marijuana slows your perception.....these deaths could have been prevented if this kid didn't get "high" before driving. Another lesson to be learned.
 Quoting: MayanGod


NO!! This accident would have been avoided if the kid wasn't driving at mach4. You show me the teenage kid with only a learner's permit that can safely operate a vehicle at those speeds, sober or not. And if the kids parents actually did knowingly let their son drive around at 330 in the morning with a load of kids and not so much as a license then they ought to held equally accountable.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
When will you potheads learn that marijuana is a DRUG.....it does not need to be legalized. Alcohol being legal is bad enough. Marijuana slows your perception.....these deaths could have been prevented if this kid didn't get "high" before driving. Another lesson to be learned.
 Quoting: MayanGod




flipoffflipoffflipoff

bonghitbonghit

If its legalized this KID would have to show ID to buy it, just like alcohol.....oh thats right KIDS drink underage too......kid or adult,legal or illegal, sober or altered - accidents happen.

shut up asshat christard.

MayanGod-my ass, you flatter yourself. How about you rename yourself Judgemental Asshat.
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I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


^^^^This^^^^
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


^^^^This^^^^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727


Read the rest of this. They can now detect if you were high at the time of the incident.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


THISclappa
 Quoting: CtYankee


That just proves even more how bad marijuana is....that poison stays in the system for months! At least alcohol leaves in 3 days. On top of that, marijuana had been PROVEN to make some people paranoid. Alcohol never does. I'm not saying alcohol is better, I'm just saying marijuana is a DRUG. How do you know the kid didn't get a panic attack while stoned and ended up losing focus while driving???
 Quoting: MayanGod



^^^How do you know that he might have?

God I love it when people assume and make up there own conclusions...It just shows that they live in a 'what if' world....Gawd!
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You pin this thread?

What a joke!

Hey why don't you just get a grip drama queen?
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
Other strange thing about this NSA site is that your old old tactic just donr work anymore....

...perhaps it's time you chaps just retire into your old world draconian illusion.


We are free wheras you believe you are free, whilst serving tour pedofilw croonie masters.

We laugh at you. :)
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


THISclappa
 Quoting: CtYankee


That just proves even more how bad marijuana is....that poison stays in the system for months! At least alcohol leaves in 3 days. On top of that, marijuana had been PROVEN to make some people paranoid. Alcohol never does. I'm not saying alcohol is better, I'm just saying marijuana is a DRUG. How do you know the kid didn't get a panic attack while stoned and ended up losing focus while driving???
 Quoting: MayanGod


Caffeine is a drug, should we make that illegal too?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24585127


to MAYANGOD: you are useless to talk to. THC stays in your body for MAYBE a month after smoking FOR YEARS

how do i know this?

i did a fucking THC TEST

i smoked for 6 years STRAIGHT pretty much everyday

i did a test after being sober for only 25 days...

i came out 0% THC IN MY BODY


ok?

next fact

thc ONLY stays that long in your body if you are a LONG time smoker

you say alcohol does not?

you are telling me alcohol does not stay in a persons system if they are a true everyday alcoholic, just like the pothead type?

you ARE STUPID AS FUCK


and just compare an alcoholic to a pothead

i would rather give the job to the pothead

and btw THC stays in your system for maximum of 2 days if you are not a heavy user.
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The marijuana just added to the issue with this kid it wasn't the cause or the problem, he had no license and limited experience behind the wheel he was drive approx 110 mph when he crashed. The weed may have lowered his inhabition but his and his parents stupidity is what caused this not the weed
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lol @ blaming marijuana

Lock the kid up for being stupid but don't try to make it about marijuana.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
That's sad...I wonder if the kid was even high...Who was that lady a while back who got a nasty sentence because she had marijuana in her system from two weeks prior to her car accident?

One thing though, to the people saying they can drive fine high on marijuana...how? I remember when I was a youngin', I was certainly not fit to drive after getting my smoke on.

Marijuana's brand of high ain't one you wanna drive on in my opinion.
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty


people smoke it now more than before


there is a big difference between smoking weed ONCE in a while
and smoking weed daily

the difference is astronomical


when i stopped weed for 6 years, and started again, i was so high i almost felt like i did shrooms


but after smoking 3x per day, you get so used to it, that you don't really get high, you just kinda zone out.. or concentrate on certain things only

i can smoke a big fat joint of the best weed right now, and go drive 100km with no problems...

but if i stop weed for a long time and try it again, then i will feel more paranoid driving... i remember when i did it after 6 years, I STILL was able to drive, even though i was so fucking high
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
so a teenager without a license driving 110 mph gets in a car crash that kills him and his idiot friends.

"BLAME MARIJUANA!!!!!"

go fuck yourself America.

I'll tell you a SECRET. i DRIVE HIGH ON WEED ALL THE TIME, EVERY DAY. I never get in a crash. I have a perfect driving record. Know what the difference is? I'm a good driver.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11665191


Just because it never has happened to you doesn't mean it will never. You win some you lose some. Theres a reason why jobs DRUG TEST for marijuana. You can't be high while giving out prescription pills as a pharmacist, or operating machinery, etc. It changes the perception of the mind.
 Quoting: MayanGod


And just because I have never drove drunk or high doesn't mean an accident won't happen to me.....

Sober people cause accidents as well:their minds not on driving possible because...
maybe cause they're driving 110 mph, not realizing it
or maybe they're texting
or maybe their child just died of cancer
or maybe they just broke up with bf/gf - husband/wife
or maybe they just lost their home to the bankers
maybe the wife had a miscarriage
maybe mom or dad died
or maybe..ect. ect. ect....there are endless reasons why people get in auto accidents cuz their mind isn't on the road.

this accident was not due to weed it was because of inexperience driving,speed, and a car full of other dumbass teenagers...
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I just wondered why we are even bothering to reply to some dickhead thar calls himself " Mayan god " anyway?

What a wanker.
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chuckle
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OMG!!!!lmao
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
this screams propaganda. Kids last name is "beer" and he is making pot look bad. Alcohol is good/pot is bad type with hints poking through. The whole story seems fabricated/played out to smear pot.
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I drive drunk all the time and I never have gotten into accident.
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all the time?

then when you do get caught it will be for killing someone and you will get five years, maybe more and sooner or later it will happen.
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
IMO ANYONE WHO THINKS CANNABIS CAUSE THIS CRASH IS BORDERLINE RETARDED AND NEEDS TO SEEK HELP SWIFTLY.

Also anyone who thinks driving on a substance that impairs your motor functions (e.g Alcohol) needs to take a knife and RUN INTO IT.

It has been PROVEN by scientists that weed does affect motor skills. Most humanoids that have evolved beyond the stage of barbarians are able to use their motor coordination to adapt to altered perception caused by NON-MOTOR impairing drugs (e.g weed, adderall, xanax, etc)

[link to www.youtube.com]

In fact - and as seen in the video - marijuana makes driver more cautious and alert. Why is this?????!!!! YOU ASK??

Go back to the history of the first cannabis leaf. THC is a NATURAL GODDAMN CHEMICAL THAT WAS SECRETED BY PLANTS IN DEFENSE. I think this is in direct conjuction as to why it makes you feel more cautious, alert, aware....

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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
Cannibus shouldn't be blamed for the mistakes of children. Alcohol should be LOL

But in all seriousness, who would be driving 110 while smoking? I'd hope nobody. You'd probably feel like you're going that fast going 50 if blazed up. Just a dumb decision...
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let me fix that for ya!

who would drive 110 while sober - except on a racetrac?!
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Cannibus shouldn't be blamed for the mistakes of children. Alcohol should be LOL

But in all seriousness, who would be driving 110 while smoking? I'd hope nobody. You'd probably feel like you're going that fast going 50 if blazed up. Just a dumb decision...
 Quoting: acegotflows




let me fix that for ya!

who would drive 110 while sober - except on a racetrac?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16213727


A kid would. I did once or twice, when I was young and stupid.

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