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AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash

 
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Anti-weed morans in 22 seconds.

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When will you potheads learn that marijuana is a DRUG.....it does not need to be legalized. Alcohol being legal is bad enough. Marijuana slows your perception.....these deaths could have been prevented if this kid didn't get "high" before driving. Another lesson to be learned.
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Speed was the factor of the death.

Vaccines are the factor of why these kids are stupid these days. Has nothing to do with cannabis.

Not the use of cannabis, either.

OP = EPIC FAIL

If they smoked more pot they wouldn't have done such a stupid thing.
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When will you potheads learn that marijuana is a DRUG.....it does not need to be legalized. Alcohol being legal is bad enough. Marijuana slows your perception.....these deaths could have been prevented if this kid didn't get "high" before driving. Another lesson to be learned.
 Quoting: MayanGod


Speed was the factor of the death.

Vaccines are the factor of why these kids are stupid these days. Has nothing to do with cannabis.

Not the use of cannabis, either.

OP = EPIC FAIL

If they smoked more pot they wouldn't have done such a stupid thing.
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And when are you going to learn that cannabis is not a DRUG.

A DRUG is a dangerous substance that is so dangerous that without a license from your doctor, a DRUG could kill someone, so it's "prescribed".

Driving was what killed them. Not the actual plant.

uninformed OP

besides all your hate for cannabis, it also grows brain cells and kills cancer in all 4 stages. Autophagy, look it up.

Cannabis tells cancer to eat itself!

Go to hell OP
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
When will you potheads learn that marijuana is a DRUG.....it does not need to be legalized. Alcohol being legal is bad enough. Marijuana slows your perception.....these deaths could have been prevented if this kid didn't get "high" before driving. Another lesson to be learned.
 Quoting: MayanGod


Speed was the factor of the death.

Vaccines are the factor of why these kids are stupid these days. Has nothing to do with cannabis.

Not the use of cannabis, either.

OP = EPIC FAIL

If they smoked more pot they wouldn't have done such a stupid thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27004577


And when are you going to learn that cannabis is not a DRUG.

A DRUG is a dangerous substance that is so dangerous that without a license from your doctor, a DRUG could kill someone, so it's "prescribed".

Driving was what killed them. Not the actual plant.

uninformed OP

besides all your hate for cannabis, it also grows brain cells and kills cancer in all 4 stages. Autophagy, look it up.

Cannabis tells cancer to eat itself!

Go to hell OP
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usa locks up more people then the entire planet combined.
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Ten years ive been driving high. Havent had a car accident in 8 years. Hell, i havent even been pulled over in the last four or five years. I have trouble driving the speed limit, no way in hell id go 110, or even 90. Anti-pot folk are quick to judge without knowing what they are talking about. In summary, ten years of using and driving while high. 8 years without an accident, 5 years without being pulled over.Only thing on my record is a misdemeanor posession charge, 9 years ago. Pot doesnt make the person a bad driver, or a criminal. Maybe, just maybe, people are to blame and not harmless plants.
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so a teenager without a license driving 110 mph gets in a car crash that kills him and his idiot friends.

"BLAME MARIJUANA!!!!!"

go fuck yourself America.

I'll tell you a SECRET. i DRIVE HIGH ON WEED ALL THE TIME, EVERY DAY. I never get in a crash. I have a perfect driving record. Know what the difference is? I'm a good driver.
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exactly!
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Ten years ive been driving high. Havent had a car accident in 8 years. Hell, i havent even been pulled over in the last four or five years. I have trouble driving the speed limit, no way in hell id go 110, or even 90. Anti-pot folk are quick to judge without knowing what they are talking about. In summary, ten years of using and driving while high. 8 years without an accident, 5 years without being pulled over.Only thing on my record is a misdemeanor posession charge, 9 years ago. Pot doesnt make the person a bad driver, or a criminal. Maybe, just maybe, people are to blame and not harmless plants.
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exactly!

I haven't been pulled over for 10 years, haven't ever got into a car crash while high.

I crashed one time only cause some fuckwad was tailgating me and I made an illegal left turn to get him the fuck off my tail. I was sober that day.

Had I smoked a bowl before driving I would have just let him tailgate me all he wanted, and I wouldn't have fucked around doing something illegal (making a left turn where it wasn't permitted)
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


THC itself only stays in your system for a few hours before breaking down into metabolites which can stay in your system for much longer.

Did he test positive for actual THC in bloodstream or metabolites?
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Read before libel. Read the thread, you goof!
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I did read the thread and the article. Where are the actual results of the test posted? I must have missed it, moran.

I don't think you understand my point and question.
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AC, you haven't missed anything...people are voicing their opinion on testing and providing no proof. Altho it is well known that THC will show up in drug testing months after the last time using it. Hair samples show a more accurate result of the last time using weed.

And I"m still pissed that I have to take a drug test for employment but those living off my taxes don't!...that shit right there has to change.
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who is testing these drug testers??
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When will you potheads learn that marijuana is a DRUG.....it does not need to be legalized. Alcohol being legal is bad enough. Marijuana slows your perception.....these deaths could have been prevented if this kid didn't get "high" before driving. Another lesson to be learned.
 Quoting: MayanGod


Your an idiot. Driving Drunk Kills thousands per month and yet we can freely drink whenever we please and nothing is ever second guessed. 1 incident where people are killed, not due to the marijuana, how bout the fact he was driving 110 MPH!!!!! Didn't slow his perception, anyone driving at that speed can't react to losing control, sober or not. get a clue. At the same time, My prayers go out to these families. It was a horrific accident, and like in most cases the passengers parish while the driver lives the rest of his life with that guilt.
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I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
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^^^^This^^^^
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Read the rest of this. They can now detect if you were high at the time of the incident.
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AC, you keep saying that ^^^ now, in many posts. Can you at least back up what you're saying with a link???

If you want to boast your knowledge that let us know where you learned it from....otherwise STFU.
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you know the guys who set this kid up thought it was hilarious his name is "beer". people dont do 110 on cannabis. this is a set up to try and keep other states from legalizing.
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OP Posted Thread, then, like a bitch, went into hiding. People post the Dumbest shit, in which they have no clue about and because they feel so strongly about their views the smallest, in this case big, but in no way related to the Marijuana, incident is prospect for an outburst of their ignorance. Im glad GLP has a few good people with brains. I love this place. Where dumb posts get heartless responses. I bet he doesn't post another.

I wish I had more hands so I could give OP 4 thumbs down.

OP = Obvious Prick

Last Edited by FlashMob on 11/17/2012 04:26 PM
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THISclappa
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That just proves even more how bad marijuana is....that poison stays in the system for months! At least alcohol leaves in 3 days. On top of that, marijuana had been PROVEN to make some people paranoid. Alcohol never does. I'm not saying alcohol is better, I'm just saying marijuana is a DRUG. How do you know the kid didn't get a panic attack while stoned and ended up losing focus while driving???
 Quoting: MayanGod


Caffeine is a drug, should we make that illegal too?
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to MAYANGOD: you are useless to talk to. THC stays in your body for MAYBE a month after smoking FOR YEARS

how do i know this?

i did a fucking THC TEST

i smoked for 6 years STRAIGHT pretty much everyday

i did a test after being sober for only 25 days...

i came out 0% THC IN MY BODY


ok?

next fact

thc ONLY stays that long in your body if you are a LONG time smoker

you say alcohol does not?

you are telling me alcohol does not stay in a persons system if they are a true everyday alcoholic, just like the pothead type?

you ARE STUPID AS FUCK


and just compare an alcoholic to a pothead

i would rather give the job to the pothead

and btw THC stays in your system for maximum of 2 days if you are not a heavy user.
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WILL WORK FOR WEED LOL

I do drug testing...I test all drugs...
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The kid crashed because he was an inexperienced driver speeding at 110 mph on a dangerous freeway. Sober, stoned, or drunk... doesn't matter. When you're driving 2x as fast as the posted speed limit, bad things are going to happen.
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When will you potheads learn that marijuana is a DRUG.....it does not need to be legalized. Alcohol being legal is bad enough. Marijuana slows your perception.....these deaths could have been prevented if this kid didn't get "high" before driving. Another lesson to be learned.
 Quoting: MayanGod


no this could have been prevented had he not been driving at 110 mph. drugs didn't cause the accident. a moron driving that fast without a license did. Regardless of the drugs in the system he should be charged then plead down. vehicles must be treated with respect and every now and again you have to drop a bomb on idiots
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I just wondered why we are even bothering to reply to some dickhead thar calls himself " Mayan god " anyway?

What a wanker.
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And obviously a shill shit stirrer - Mayan maGog left the thread a long time ago....
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Re: AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR MARIJUANA IN SYSTEM....Teen charged with felonies after 4 die in NY crash
I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
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you're right. thc can be detected in blood up to 30 days after last use.

however, many states have "zero drugged driving" laws which state having detectable metabolites of a controlled substance in your blood counts as being under the influence.
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Those States are retarded, and run by morons.
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so a teenager without a license driving 110 mph gets in a car crash that kills him and his idiot friends.

"BLAME MARIJUANA!!!!!"

go fuck yourself America.

I'll tell you a SECRET. i DRIVE HIGH ON WEED ALL THE TIME, EVERY DAY. I never get in a crash. I have a perfect driving record. Know what the difference is? I'm a good driver.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11665191


This accident has 0.0 to do with weed. He should get all those charges just for his reckless behavior, not becuase of weed. ARE WE to believe that his sentance would be less if he was clean.

Ridiculous.
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Cannibus shouldn't be blamed for the mistakes of children. Alcohol should be LOL

But in all seriousness, who would be driving 110 while smoking? I'd hope nobody. You'd probably feel like you're going that fast going 50 if blazed up. Just a dumb decision...
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let me fix that for ya!

who would drive 110 while sober - except on a racetrac?!
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A kid would. I did once or twice, when I was young and stupid.
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Exactly! - a kid would! Its got nothing to do with weed.
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WHen I was young, the first times a smoke weed, I was totally not able to drive.
But now it's totally different.
When I'm high, maybe my reflexes are not as good (and I'm not even sure of that), but I'm way more careful, as if I was more aware of the danger of driving. When I'm clean, I tend to drive too fast.

I would say that for a regular smoker, it's not really more dangerous. For a "new" smoker, no doubt that it can be dangerous.
But it's really, really incomparable with driving when drunk.
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IMHO: the prosecutor is an idiot for filing such unsupportable charges. This young man was an inexperienced driver. A teen with a LEARNER's PERMIT (no less!). He was not a seasoned and tested driver. Why he was driving and at that hour? IF HIS PARENTS ALLOWED HIM TO DRIVE on his permit without supervision, then it is the parents who are guilty and teh son was only the instrument of their negligence.

The prosecutor can in no way prove the boy was "intoxicated" as the purported THC levels. I'm not sure there are any tests to show relative levels of THC and if such tests exist - is there any way to definitely correlate those levels to degrees of intoxication or impairment? I doubt it exists as yet.

I hope the parents have a BIG UMBRELLA LIABILITY POLICY. They're going to need it both for defense and indemnification to whatever extent it may cover them. Fortunately a 5 Million Excess liability policy only costs about $500/year on top of a homeowners policy. Great coverage to have if you have a teenage driver in the family and something like this horror were to happen.




When will you potheads learn that marijuana is a DRUG.....it does not need to be legalized. Alcohol being legal is bad enough. Marijuana slows your perception.....these deaths could have been prevented if this kid didn't get "high" before driving. Another lesson to be learned.
 Quoting: MayanGod




For those out there who jump at every opportunity to blame achole and weed and other drugs, HOW ABOUT TAKING A LOOK INSIDE YOUR MEDICINE CABINET!!!


HOW MANY FRIGGIN PRESCRIPTION OF DRUGS ARE YOU ON!!!!


STOP JUDGING OTHERS, WHEN 90% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE ON OVER 3 PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OR MORE!!!!


THEY KILL TOOOOO!!!!!


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I'm against drugs but that won't hold up

THC stays in your systems for MONTHS

having it in your bloodstream isn't enough to prove intoxication at the time of the incident
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


you're right. thc can be detected in blood up to 30 days after last use.

however, many states have "zero drugged driving" laws which state having detectable metabolites of a controlled substance in your blood counts as being under the influence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27937626


Those States are retarded, and run by morons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27825094


The key to the problem is the words "controlled substance".

WHY is it controlled? It's for the sake of profiteering corporations and government, that's all; not for any real rational reason having to do with our health or well-being.
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Good. Abusing drugs is abusing drugs whether it be prescription or not. If it impairs you and you are not responsible, then you reap the consequences.

A crime was committed no matter the amount of THC was in the idiots system. Maybe the kid should have not been lighting up in the first place. When you get caught up in a snare because you broke the law and it is discovered, then you are accountable.

So I say good.
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Personally, driving high is easier than driving sober for me. I'm much more on edge and nervous when I drive sober.
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WHen I was young, the first times a smoke weed, I was totally not able to drive.
But now it's totally different.
When I'm high, maybe my reflexes are not as good (and I'm not even sure of that), but I'm way more careful, as if I was more aware of the danger of driving. When I'm clean, I tend to drive too fast.

I would say that for a regular smoker, it's not really more dangerous. For a "new" smoker, no doubt that it can be dangerous.
But it's really, really incomparable with driving when drunk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27672863


That's because alcohol causes a form of blindness; and makes people lose control of their muscles. Alcohol causes people to blackout or fall unconscious, often (I've even seen them knocked out, lying on a cold winter sidewalk, with their heads propped against a brick wall, sleeping like a baby). You can die from too much alcohol; but I'm quite sure you can't ~smoke enough reefer to kill you.
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AND LET THE CRIMES/ACCIDENTS FROM MARIJUANA MAGICALLY GO UP AND MAKE HEADLINES.

This country is sick, try to legalize it on a state level and watch the national and mainstream news "incidents" go up. This is what happens in this country and why we never move foreword with anything that is not in the best interest of our government.

..get ready for more!
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First of all marijuana is a fucking plant and thc is a fucking drug. How anyone tests pos. for marijuana is beyond me. Try and smoke fresh marijuana leaves. You won't get shit off of them. Plus they hardly burn. Also eating them wouldn't get you high either. But there's alot of health benefits something that's a no no from the government.
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WHen I was young, the first times a smoke weed, I was totally not able to drive.
But now it's totally different.
When I'm high, maybe my reflexes are not as good (and I'm not even sure of that), but I'm way more careful, as if I was more aware of the danger of driving. When I'm clean, I tend to drive too fast.

I would say that for a regular smoker, it's not really more dangerous. For a "new" smoker, no doubt that it can be dangerous.
But it's really, really incomparable with driving when drunk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27672863


That's because alcohol causes a form of blindness; and makes people lose control of their muscles. Alcohol causes people to blackout or fall unconscious, often (I've even seen them knocked out, lying on a cold winter sidewalk, with their heads propped against a brick wall, sleeping like a baby). You can die from too much alcohol; but I'm quite sure you can't ~smoke enough reefer to kill you.
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You would have to smoke your body weight in weed in 15 minutes to overdose. Nobody has ever died from smoking weed alone.
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