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Israel still belives it's God's chosen people. Is it? Will God take it's side?

 
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"Furthermore, when YOU see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. 21 Then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains, and let those in the midst of her withdraw, and let those in the country places not enter into her; 22 because these are days for meting out justice, that all the things written may be fulfilled. 23 Woe to the pregnant women and the ones suckling a baby in those days! For there will be great necessity upon the land and wrath on this people; 24 and they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled." Lk21:20

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Deuteronomy 28:15 "But it shall come about, if you do not obey the LORD your God, to observe to do all His commandments and His statutes with which I charge you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you: ...

..the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants. Leviticus 25:23

Last of all, he sent his son to them. 'They will respect my son,' he said. But when the tenants saw the son, they said to each other, 'This is the heir. Come, let's kill him and take his inheritance.' So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants? Matthew 21:40
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Deuteronomy 28:15 "But it shall come about, if you do not obey the LORD your God, to observe to do all His commandments and His statutes with which I charge you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you: ...

..the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants. Leviticus 25:23

Last of all, he sent his son to them. 'They will respect my son,' he said. But when the tenants saw the son, they said to each other, 'This is the heir. Come, let's kill him and take his inheritance.' So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants? Matthew 21:40
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Right Because Israel rejected Jesus, they rejected Jehovah as well and he opened his covenant to the gentiles;

"At this Peter opened his mouth and said: “For a certainty I perceive that God is not partial, 35 but in every nation the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him. 36 He sent out the word to the sons of Israel to declare to them the good news of peace through Jesus Christ: this One is Lord of all [others]. 37 YOU know the subject that was talked about throughout the whole of Judea, starting from Gal′i·lee after the baptism that John preached, 38 namely, Jesus who was from Nazareth, how God anointed him with holy spirit and power, and he went through the land doing good and healing all those oppressed by the Devil; because God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all the things he did both in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem; but they also did away with him by hanging him on a stake." Ac10:34
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Many thought the 6 day war was short of miraculous.

I believe God protects Israel and God blesses those who bless Israel.

I think if they turn to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, this one might just be miraculous.

I would love to see a miracle
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Many thought the 6 day war was short of miraculous.

I believe God protects Israel and God blesses those who bless Israel.

I think if they turn to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, this one might just be miraculous.

I would love to see a miracle
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Is their faith in Jehovah or the Samson Option? How does God feel about man's weapons of mass destruction, are they blessed?
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No true loving god would support the sick atrocities that Israel continues to commit. It is that simple.

No human on earth, if they know the TRUTH, can support Israel in their right mind. Saying Israel is sick and evil is not an opinion, it is a clear fact available to anyone with courage to look.
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"Furthermore, when YOU see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. 21 Then let those in Ju·de′a begin fleeing to the mountains, and let those in the midst of her withdraw, and let those in the country places not enter into her; 22 because these are days for meting out justice, that all the things written may be fulfilled. 23 Woe to the pregnant women and the ones suckling a baby in those days! For there will be great necessity upon the land and wrath on this people; 24 and they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled." Lk21:20
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choosennes syndrome is the name of that disease
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"Furthermore, when YOU see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. 21 Then let those in Ju·de′a begin fleeing to the mountains, and let those in the midst of her withdraw, and let those in the country places not enter into her; 22 because these are days for meting out justice, that all the things written may be fulfilled. 23 Woe to the pregnant women and the ones suckling a baby in those days! For there will be great necessity upon the land and wrath on this people; 24 and they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled." Lk21:20
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choosennes syndrome is the name of that disease
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What's the cure?
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"Furthermore, when YOU see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. 21 Then let those in Ju·de′a begin fleeing to the mountains, and let those in the midst of her withdraw, and let those in the country places not enter into her; 22 because these are days for meting out justice, that all the things written may be fulfilled. 23 Woe to the pregnant women and the ones suckling a baby in those days! For there will be great necessity upon the land and wrath on this people; 24 and they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled." Lk21:20
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choosennes syndrome is the name of that disease
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What's the cure?
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Ovens. Real ovens, I mean.
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God will keep the promises He made to Israel. But, His promises are to "a people," not a nation state. Biblical Israel is, let me say it again, A PEOPLE...not a nation.

And all Christians should be extatic that God will keep every one of His promises to His (still chosen) people. If He isn't willing to keep Avis promise to them, then what does that mean for you? It would mean that His promises are worthless.

So, Christians, be careful what you say.
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His....not Avis.
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What kind of god chooses sides?

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Oh yeh, this one ufo56
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God will keep the promises He made to Israel. But, His promises are to "a people," not a nation state. Biblical Israel is, let me say it again, A PEOPLE...not a nation.

And all Christians should be extatic that God will keep every one of His promises to His (still chosen) people. If He isn't willing to keep Avis promise to them, then what does that mean for you? It would mean that His promises are worthless.

So, Christians, be careful what you say.
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After physical Israel rejected Jesus Jehovah opened his covenant to the gentiles, to serve as heavenly assistant kings and priests with Jesus for his 1,000 year reign;
"It is to YOU, therefore, that he is precious, because YOU are believers; but to those not believing, “the identical stone that the builders rejected has become [the] head of [the] corner,” 8 and “a stone of stumbling and a rock-mass of offense.” These are stumbling because they are disobedient to the word. To this very end they were also appointed. 9 But YOU are “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that YOU should declare abroad the excellencies” of the one that called YOU out of darkness into his wonderful light. 10 For YOU were once not a people, but are now God’s people; YOU were those who had not been shown mercy, but are now those who have been shown mercy." 2Pe2:7 Rv5:9
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God doesn't choose people, People choose God. God does not take the side of evil.

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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No, the day of vengeance is at hand;

Isaiah 34:5  For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
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God doesn't choose people, People choose God. God does not take the side of evil.
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"I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have carefully hidden these things from wise and intellectual ones, and have revealed them to babes. Yes, O Father, because to do thus came to be the way approved by you. 22 All things have been delivered to me by my Father, and who the Son is no one knows but the Father; and who the Father is, no one [knows] but the Son, and he to whom the Son is willing to reveal him.” Lk10:21

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True, and the Muslims believe they are God's people. The question then is, who is the violent religion. The answer is ISLAM. Israel simply defends themselves. Or the entire thing has been orchestrated for a greater cause.
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ask all those countries in the 70's how it worked out for them, when they tried to attack Israel.
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Just ask Charles T Russell.

He did, after all, discover truth and all who lived prior to him stand no chance to enter paradise.

Better yet, without the organization he spawned, no one stands a chance -- it is Christ you know...
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"Furthermore, when YOU see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. 21 Then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains, and let those in the midst of her withdraw, and let those in the country places not enter into her; 22 because these are days for meting out justice, that all the things written may be fulfilled. 23 Woe to the pregnant women and the ones suckling a baby in those days! For there will be great necessity upon the land and wrath on this people; 24 and they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled." Lk21:20
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That prophesy was fulfilled years ago (70 AD). Since then, God has regathered his people and set them back up in their land (1948) and prophesy says that when that happens they will NEVER be scattered again.

Amos 9
New wine will drip from the mountains
and flow from all the hills,
14 and I will bring my people Israel back from exile.[f]


“They will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them.
They will plant vineyards and drink their wine;
they will make gardens and eat their fruit.
15 I will plant Israel in their own land,
never again to be uprooted
from the land I have given them
,”


says the Lord your God.
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Just ask Charles T Russell.

He did, after all, discover truth and all who lived prior to him stand no chance to enter paradise.

Better yet, without the organization he spawned, no one stands a chance -- it is Christ you know...
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"And I saw a great white throne and the one seated on it. From before him the earth and the heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. 12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened. But another scroll was opened; it is the scroll of life. And the dead were judged out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds. 13 And the sea gave up those dead in it, and death and Hades gave up those dead in them, and they were judged individually according to their deeds. 14 And death and Hades were hurled into the lake of fire. This means the second death, the lake of fire. 15 Furthermore, whoever was not found written in the book of life was hurled into the lake of fire." Rv20:12

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God will keep the promises He made to Israel. But, His promises are to "a people," not a nation state. Biblical Israel is, let me say it again, A PEOPLE...not a nation.

And all Christians should be extatic that God will keep every one of His promises to His (still chosen) people. If He isn't willing to keep Avis promise to them, then what does that mean for you? It would mean that His promises are worthless.

So, Christians, be careful what you say.
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Don't misstake DGN for a Christian, DGN is a Russellite, he's a follower of false prophet Russell and all the following gangsters from New York.
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And yes he will keep all promises, and they will turn and realize who their Messiah is.

There's no worries about that, the problem is people like DGN, these wolves bringing people to hell (another thing this muppet deny).
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No, the day of vengeance is at hand;

Isaiah 34:5  For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
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Isaiah 34:2 The Lord is angry with all nations;
his wrath is on all their armies.
He will totally destroy[a] them,
he will give them over to slaughter

If you read further in the same chapter, you read this

For the Lord has a day of vengeance,
a year of retribution, to uphold Zion’s cause.
9 Edom’s streams will be turned into pitch,
her dust into burning sulfur;
her land will become blazing pitch!
10 It will not be quenched night or day;
its smoke will rise forever.
From generation to generation it will lie desolate;
no one will ever pass through it again

Zion again is Israel. Edom is the land south of Judah. Some maps show it to be modern day Jordan.
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God will keep the promises He made to Israel. But, His promises are to "a people," not a nation state. Biblical Israel is, let me say it again, A PEOPLE...not a nation.

And all Christians should be extatic that God will keep every one of His promises to His (still chosen) people. If He isn't willing to keep Avis promise to them, then what does that mean for you? It would mean that His promises are worthless.

So, Christians, be careful what you say.
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Don't misstake DGN for a Christian, DGN is a Russellite, he's a follower of false prophet Russell and all the following gangsters from New York.
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And yes he will keep all promises, and they will turn and realize who their Messiah is.

There's no worries about that, the problem is people like DGN, these wolves bringing people to hell (another thing this muppet deny).
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hf

There were plenty of true free Faithful followers of Christ before the Charles Taze Russell religion came along. They came along to keep people from Christ.

And they shun any family members who leave their religion to become a true follower of Christ, in spirit and truth , becoming born again, in fact they say there can be no more born again, because the 144,000 was already filled...so they shut up the Kingdom of God, and they themselves do not enter in.

This is why Jesus says, "get away from me, I never knew you!!"

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God will keep the promises He made to Israel. But, His promises are to "a people," not a nation state. Biblical Israel is, let me say it again, A PEOPLE...not a nation.

And all Christians should be extatic that God will keep every one of His promises to His (still chosen) people. If He isn't willing to keep Avis promise to them, then what does that mean for you? It would mean that His promises are worthless.

So, Christians, be careful what you say.
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Don't misstake DGN for a Christian, DGN is a Russellite, he's a follower of false prophet Russell and all the following gangsters from New York.
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And yes he will keep all promises, and they will turn and realize who their Messiah is.

There's no worries about that, the problem is people like DGN, these wolves bringing people to hell (another thing this muppet deny).
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"For as respects whoever is joined to all the living there exists confidence, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion. 5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun." Ecc9:4
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You jews turned from god when you crucified his chosen one. Do you know god personally? Then you are not chose, no man thousands of years ago will justify your \"chooseness\". YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN SHALL SUFFER, for YOUR LIFE IS BASED ON GUILT AND SHAME, THAT PATH WHICH YOU HAVE CHOSE.
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God will keep the promises He made to Israel. But, His promises are to "a people," not a nation state. Biblical Israel is, let me say it again, A PEOPLE...not a nation.

And all Christians should be extatic that God will keep every one of His promises to His (still chosen) people. If He isn't willing to keep Avis promise to them, then what does that mean for you? It would mean that His promises are worthless.

So, Christians, be careful what you say.
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Don't misstake DGN for a Christian, DGN is a Russellite, he's a follower of false prophet Russell and all the following gangsters from New York.
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And yes he will keep all promises, and they will turn and realize who their Messiah is.

There's no worries about that, the problem is people like DGN, these wolves bringing people to hell (another thing this muppet deny).
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hf

There were plenty of true free Faithful followers of Christ before the Charles Taze Russell religion came along. They came along to keep people from Christ.

And they shun any family members who leave their religion to become a true follower of Christ, in spirit and truth , becoming born again, in fact they say there can be no more born again, because the 144,000 was already filled...so they shut up the Kingdom of God, and they themselves do not enter in.

This is why Jesus says, "get away from me, I never knew you!!"
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" After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.” Rv7:9
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God will keep the promises He made to Israel. But, His promises are to "a people," not a nation state. Biblical Israel is, let me say it again, A PEOPLE...not a nation.

And all Christians should be extatic that God will keep every one of His promises to His (still chosen) people. If He isn't willing to keep Avis promise to them, then what does that mean for you? It would mean that His promises are worthless.

So, Christians, be careful what you say.
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Don't misstake DGN for a Christian, DGN is a Russellite, he's a follower of false prophet Russell and all the following gangsters from New York.
[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]


And yes he will keep all promises, and they will turn and realize who their Messiah is.

There's no worries about that, the problem is people like DGN, these wolves bringing people to hell (another thing this muppet deny).
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"And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” Mt28:19

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