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[link to sacramento.cbslocal.com]

I'm simply asking a question. Does a situation such as this create a ripe platform for something far more sinister and diabolical? For starters, the hair rose on my neck when Obama recently issued his latest Executive Order:

[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

Naturally, I gave consideration to several of the comments made in the homeless article. One in particular struck a nerve: "For Barton <homeless man>, the new ordinance that would essentially identify law-abiding homeless...The goal is to start managing the homeless population within our city,” said Chief James Wickham."

A police chief with the authority to decide who gets a permit and who doesn't, and under what terms? The matter of vagrancy notwithstanding, am I to infer that crimes committed by the homeless are somehow different than crimes committed by people who have homes? What will qualify a person for a permit? What program of accountability will be implemented? Will there be a medical examination of any sort? Required inoculations? RFID chips? Will there by "homeless zones?" I can go on and on.

With luck, I'm just exhausted from a bad night's sleep. And the overwhelming, unrelenting BS we're being force-fed 24-7.
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Just another form of CONTROL.
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Just another form of CONTROL.
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Yep, soon enough, you will need a yearly "fit for life" permit, for a fee, of course.

Step right up and take your test, if you pass, you get another year to live, do not make the grade and you get turned into fertilizer.

For the good of everyone, of course.

And if you are rich enough, this will not apply to you, of course.

Animal farm world and the pigs have taken over the house.
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the government is the terrorists
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[link to sacramento.cbslocal.com]

I'm simply asking a question. Does a situation such as this create a ripe platform for something far more sinister and diabolical? For starters, the hair rose on my neck when Obama recently issued his latest Executive Order:

[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

Naturally, I gave consideration to several of the comments made in the homeless article. One in particular struck a nerve: "For Barton <homeless man>, the new ordinance that would essentially identify law-abiding homeless...The goal is to start managing the homeless population within our city,” said Chief James Wickham."

A police chief with the authority to decide who gets a permit and who doesn't, and under what terms? The matter of vagrancy notwithstanding, am I to infer that crimes committed by the homeless are somehow different than crimes committed by people who have homes? What will qualify a person for a permit? What program of accountability will be implemented? Will there be a medical examination of any sort? Required inoculations? RFID chips? Will there by "homeless zones?" I can go on and on.

With luck, I'm just exhausted from a bad night's sleep. And the overwhelming, unrelenting BS we're being force-fed 24-7.
 Quoting: Veranidae


Bottom line is: With all the ~vacant properties and homes in America, there should NEVER be "homeless" citizens here. NEVER.
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[link to sacramento.cbslocal.com]

I'm simply asking a question. Does a situation such as this create a ripe platform for something far more sinister and diabolical? For starters, the hair rose on my neck when Obama recently issued his latest Executive Order:

[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

Naturally, I gave consideration to several of the comments made in the homeless article. One in particular struck a nerve: "For Barton <homeless man>, the new ordinance that would essentially identify law-abiding homeless...The goal is to start managing the homeless population within our city,” said Chief James Wickham."

A police chief with the authority to decide who gets a permit and who doesn't, and under what terms? The matter of vagrancy notwithstanding, am I to infer that crimes committed by the homeless are somehow different than crimes committed by people who have homes? What will qualify a person for a permit? What program of accountability will be implemented? Will there be a medical examination of any sort? Required inoculations? RFID chips? Will there by "homeless zones?" I can go on and on.

With luck, I'm just exhausted from a bad night's sleep. And the overwhelming, unrelenting BS we're being force-fed 24-7.
 Quoting: Veranidae


Bottom line is: With all the ~vacant properties and homes in America, there should NEVER be "homeless" citizens here. NEVER.
 Quoting: shenandoah


The costs of living, particulary that of home prices, are grossly over-inflated, due to Corporatism. That's a violation of Human Rights.
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i realize it's slightly offtopic, but idea of being homeless is sometiems appealing to me.
i am at the margines of society as it is, it be a breath of fresh air for me to admit that i don't fit in, and quit hoping some miracle will happen and i will find somewhere i belong.

trouble with this is that i need to move to a place with milder climate, coz i wldn't survive one cold winter out in the streets, and i also need to wait till i'm a bit older...
i have way exceeded my limit of being raped, i could not putt up with minding my own business in my sleeping bag and some dirtbag government clerk cruising for young homeless girls to play with, which i know would be the main hobby of middle classed psychopaths in any town i happen to pick for my homless home.

i know, you people will say i'm arrogant,lol, among other things, my mother often points out the same, if i comment like this.

hey, don't hate me coz everyone wants to stick it inside me, hate me coz it doesn't impress me in the least bit.

hiding
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11/17/2012 12:45 PM
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"Managing" the homeless?

What are they?

Herpes?
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Don't you just love a country where you have to have a license to be transient.
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It simply seems that no matter a person's personal wealth or status, save the OBSCENELY wealthy, there is a push by the government from the top down to scrutinize the details of every human life, right down to the infinitesimally small details, and exercise absolute accountability and control over everyone. The homeless are an easy target for a beta test.

Meanwhile, it's a beautiful fall day here, and thoughts of this are even affecting my delight in getting into the woods and MAYBE putting some meat in the freezer. I can imagine the day in the not-so-distant future when the government somehow forces us into purchasing their USDA-approved, GMO-fueled, institutionally processed food while euthanizing wildlife for "it's own benefit." Or making $4/lb. beef a cheap alternative in comparison to putting food on your own table. It's infuriating.
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[link to sacramento.cbslocal.com]

I'm simply asking a question. Does a situation such as this create a ripe platform for something far more sinister and diabolical? For starters, the hair rose on my neck when Obama recently issued his latest Executive Order:

[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

Naturally, I gave consideration to several of the comments made in the homeless article. One in particular struck a nerve: "For Barton <homeless man>, the new ordinance that would essentially identify law-abiding homeless...The goal is to start managing the homeless population within our city,” said Chief James Wickham."

A police chief with the authority to decide who gets a permit and who doesn't, and under what terms? The matter of vagrancy notwithstanding, am I to infer that crimes committed by the homeless are somehow different than crimes committed by people who have homes? What will qualify a person for a permit? What program of accountability will be implemented? Will there be a medical examination of any sort? Required inoculations? RFID chips? Will there by "homeless zones?" I can go on and on.

With luck, I'm just exhausted from a bad night's sleep. And the overwhelming, unrelenting BS we're being force-fed 24-7.
 Quoting: Veranidae


Bottom line is: With all the ~vacant properties and homes in America, there should NEVER be "homeless" citizens here. NEVER.
 Quoting: shenandoah


There's still a lot of places where homes are not affordable for the incomes in that area. That's the trouble. Rents are outrageous too.
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Those homeless aint real!
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Those homeless aint real!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25593099


most are Veterans yessir


I see ribbons that say "Support Our Troops"

where are the ribbons that say "Support Our Homeless Vets"??
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just round up all the homeless and ship them to fukushima. 20 km. of open houses, lots of businesses to reopen, and no police because everyone is too scared of radiation to enter the area.
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STOP BEING PERSONS. That is how they control you. If you say your a person then they can do what ever they want to you. ONLY PEOPLE (MEN or WOMAN) are free.
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Veterans Make up 1 in 4 Homeless

[link to usatoday30.usatoday.com]
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[link to sacramento.cbslocal.com]

I'm simply asking a question. Does a situation such as this create a ripe platform for something far more sinister and diabolical? For starters, the hair rose on my neck when Obama recently issued his latest Executive Order:

[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

Naturally, I gave consideration to several of the comments made in the homeless article. One in particular struck a nerve: "For Barton <homeless man>, the new ordinance that would essentially identify law-abiding homeless...The goal is to start managing the homeless population within our city,” said Chief James Wickham."

A police chief with the authority to decide who gets a permit and who doesn't, and under what terms? The matter of vagrancy notwithstanding, am I to infer that crimes committed by the homeless are somehow different than crimes committed by people who have homes? What will qualify a person for a permit? What program of accountability will be implemented? Will there be a medical examination of any sort? Required inoculations? RFID chips? Will there by "homeless zones?" I can go on and on.

With luck, I'm just exhausted from a bad night's sleep. And the overwhelming, unrelenting BS we're being force-fed 24-7.
 Quoting: Veranidae

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah!, Give them (Homeless, & Entitlement Peoples) a Gun, some Soldier Equipment and put them on the field in the Middle East, like Iran, Syria or Lebanon, let them do something useful for sucking off Uncle Scam/Uncle Sham with Uncle Boris Tit (Entitlemenhts/Welfare/Benefits) for the last 80+ years. And that includes many "Hasadic/Russian/Religious/Orthodox" Jews, as they should put them on the front line of this War, for Sucking off of Uncle Sams tit for the longest time (80+ years already).

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They went homeless to avoid the system. Where do they go now?
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"Managing" the homeless?

What are they?

Herpes?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27834799



I hate to say it, but basically.



They vandalize, drop trash everywhere, use drugs (herion and crank mainly), and more or less cause problems all around.



I would be willing to say that 7 out of 10 homeless people have a record of some sort.



Its nothing personal, its just that I see them around where I live, Downtown Olympia WA, and it becomes annoying pretty damn fast.
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I have mixed feelings. In the end its likely a good thing, reward decent people by letting them be and not harassing them. Get the scum out of town.

But it needs to be enough permits not just a small token amount. A permit should be automatic and free but revoke-able when someone makes a consistent nuisance of themselves.

For decent people it means being able to have the stability to get a job and get a life again. It won't happen when someone is being chased from place to place all the time.
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like Hitler "managed" the Gypsies.
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"Managing" the homeless?

What are they?

Herpes?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27834799



I hate to say it, but basically.



They vandalize, drop trash everywhere, use drugs (herion and crank mainly), and more or less cause problems all around.



I would be willing to say that 7 out of 10 homeless people have a record of some sort.



Its nothing personal, its just that I see them around where I live, Downtown Olympia WA, and it becomes annoying pretty damn fast.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13652486


That is my experience with the San Francisco homeless. The long term ones are a mess, they need some sort of low security institutional situation. They are too fucked up to ever care for themselves.

Then there are the temporarily homeless. Often young people, you know it when you see them. One day gave one a $20 instead of a $1 because it was obvious he didn't belong on the streets. Saw him a few days later, he'd done more than eat with it, he'd found a nearby program helping the homeless to get jobs and housing. He'd used it for the train fair to get there and get enrolled. Never saw him on the street again.
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the government is the terrorists
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Yep, it has become so. Their agents are waking up each day to aid on terrorize families, children, women, and men. Police, federal agencies,, government workers, all play apart in the destruction of America.

" I'm just doing my job" - Should not be an acceptable excuse.
Put your hands up high if you hasn't imagined. Hope that the pen strokes stronger than the cannon
Balls to the wall, Nose to the grindstone. My interrogation techniques leave your mind blown
So Place your bets lets speak to the enemy. Don't let em pretend that we seek blood. Mighty warlord wanna-be street thug a threat for a threat leaves the whole world terrified
blow for blow never settles the score
word for word it's time we clarify
We the people did not want war

So Stand up
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[link to sacramento.cbslocal.com]

I'm simply asking a question. Does a situation such as this create a ripe platform for something far more sinister and diabolical? For starters, the hair rose on my neck when Obama recently issued his latest Executive Order:

[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

Naturally, I gave consideration to several of the comments made in the homeless article. One in particular struck a nerve: "For Barton <homeless man>, the new ordinance that would essentially identify law-abiding homeless...The goal is to start managing the homeless population within our city,” said Chief James Wickham."

A police chief with the authority to decide who gets a permit and who doesn't, and under what terms? The matter of vagrancy notwithstanding, am I to infer that crimes committed by the homeless are somehow different than crimes committed by people who have homes? What will qualify a person for a permit? What program of accountability will be implemented? Will there be a medical examination of any sort? Required inoculations? RFID chips? Will there by "homeless zones?" I can go on and on.

With luck, I'm just exhausted from a bad night's sleep. And the overwhelming, unrelenting BS we're being force-fed 24-7.
 Quoting: Veranidae

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah!, Give them (Homeless, & Entitlement Peoples) a Gun, some Soldier Equipment and put them on the field in the Middle East, like Iran, Syria or Lebanon, let them do something useful for sucking off Uncle Scam/Uncle Sham with Uncle Boris Tit (Entitlemenhts/Welfare/Benefits) for the last 80+ years. And that includes many "Hasadic/Russian/Religious/Orthodox" Jews, as they should put them on the front line of this War, for Sucking off of Uncle Sams tit for the longest time (80+ years already).

rant
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lol! you actually believe its not possible for you to ever be homeless. Homelessness is one small catastrophe away.
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Veterans Make up 1 in 4 Homeless

[link to usatoday30.usatoday.com]
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and their worthless child killing asses have broken the system meant for honest down on their luck folk
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Veterans Make up 1 in 4 Homeless

[link to usatoday30.usatoday.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27097276


and their worthless child killing asses have broken the system meant for honest down on their luck folk
 Quoting: s.j 27947102


That's because our whole Economy is based on warfare. They're the "warrior class"... historically, the ones who get ~preferential treatment. That is violations of Human Rights. Only for some time now, the Government is trying to rid themselves of as many as possible, so as to keep more $$$ for themselves.
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Just another form of CONTROL.
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I feel for the homeless..been there myself a few times.. However, if you've ever been to Nevada City..( I live about 1 hour away).. You would soon realize that this is a very small tourist town..the main street is a throw back to the sixties with little art stores, mystics..hippies, and cafes ect. There is nothing else there! Having the homeless begging for hand outs on every corner ruins it for everyone.. Here's another alternative.. From a small town in the same [link to www.kcra.com] Follow up....... [link to www.sacbee.com]
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like Hitler "managed" the Gypsies.
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That is a very applicable analogy.

And no good can come from it.
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Don't you just love a country where you have to have a license to be transient.
 Quoting: Alufiend 27888921


Or and ID to prove you exist.

Here is my ID, now do you believe I am really here. LOL
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They went homeless to avoid the system. Where do they go now?
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Just another form of CONTROL.
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obama land...





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