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were the original hebrews black?

 
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They are just converts, not real Jews. Membership to the tribes is based on blood, not conversion.
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DNA clues to Queen of Sheba tale


Clues to the origins of the Queen of Sheba legend are written in the DNA of some Africans, according to scientists.

Genetic research suggests Ethiopians mixed with Egyptian, Israeli or Syrian populations about 3,000 years ago.

This is the time the queen, mentioned in great religious works, is said to have ruled the kingdom of Sheba.

"By analysing the genetics of Ethiopia and several other regions we can see that there was gene flow into Ethiopia, probably from the Levant, around 3,000 years ago, and this fits perfectly with the story of the Queen of Sheba."


Lead researcher Luca Pagani of the University of Cambridge and the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute added: "The genetic evidence is in support of the legend of the Queen of Sheba."

More than 200 individuals from 10 Ethiopian and two neighbouring African populations were analysed in the largest genetic investigation of its kind on Ethiopian populations.


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I am talking about the Hebrews.
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Hebrew????? ?????

WTF is that???
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A people descended from Shem, Son of Noah.
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DNA clues to Queen of Sheba tale


Clues to the origins of the Queen of Sheba legend are written in the DNA of some Africans, according to scientists.

Genetic research suggests Ethiopians mixed with Egyptian, Israeli or Syrian populations about 3,000 years ago.

This is the time the queen, mentioned in great religious works, is said to have ruled the kingdom of Sheba.

"By analysing the genetics of Ethiopia and several other regions we can see that there was gene flow into Ethiopia, probably from the Levant, around 3,000 years ago, and this fits perfectly with the story of the Queen of Sheba."


Lead researcher Luca Pagani of the University of Cambridge and the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute added: "The genetic evidence is in support of the legend of the Queen of Sheba."

More than 200 individuals from 10 Ethiopian and two neighbouring African populations were analysed in the largest genetic investigation of its kind on Ethiopian populations.


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I am talking about the Hebrews.
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Hebrew????? ?????

WTF is that???
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A people descended from Shem, Son of Noah.
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Then I am a hebrew believe me?
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circumstantial proof that the original hebrews were black and it is not coming from a black power source but right from the white man's mouth. DAMNING EVIDENCE RIGHT HERE!!!!!



cant seem to find the other most damning evidence of black hebrews on youtube. someone seems to have gotten rid of that LOL!!!
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They sure as fuck weren't white with blue eyes
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lol no but they were the same people. Just in a very different climate.
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Your kidding right? Why are white people near the equator not giving birth to black babies then? Your saying these dark skinned jews moved like 800 miles North East into georgia/khazar and all of a sudden started having white babies?

Evolution, if real would take thousands more years than this to kick in. The reason jews are white now is because they converted. They wanted to be "gods chosen ones" and converted to judaism. This clearly doesnt count and they are no more his chosen ones than I am. The true hebrew tribes have nearly been wiped out by these zio-jews who stole their identity.
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I'm Jewish and I doubt the Original Hebrews were Black.
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Your a convert your not really jewish. You can trace you lineage right back to Georgia not to Abraham. Georgia is your homeland not israel.
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I'm Jewish and I doubt the Original Hebrews were Black.
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Your a convert your not really jewish. You can trace you lineage right back to Georgia not to Abraham. Georgia is your homeland not israel.
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You Idiot. I don't Practice Judaism. And I never Did. I am an Ashkenazim Jew and My Parents just Practiced Christianity.
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Re: were the original hebrews black?
Not only were the Hebrews black but so were the Egyptians, Babylonians, Persians, Assyrians, Elamites etc.

Don't believe me these were the original Israelites ass depicted in history...
[link to www.hebrewisraelites.org]

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I don't see how that proves anything.

Look I can do the same. Please provide historical, empirical evidence not just some linked photos that could have come from anywhere.

[link to www.google.ie]


[link to www.google.ie]
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Well you just provided the firepower for my evidence that the Hebrews were black. You just posted clear evidence of black Egyptians. Wasn't HEBREW Moses in the pharaohs home and passed for his grandson? Would he had passed if he was another color or race other than black?
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Eh no, none of those are black, only the Nubians. Which one are you talking about? And they wouldn't have recognized him because they hadn't seen him in years and he would have been in royal attire. The Hebrews would have had olive skin like the Arabs so of course he would have blended in.
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what the hell are you talking about? the egyptians on that mural were black, not white nor arab looking. so quit it!black people have various skintones from jet black to high yellow. you white folks seem to forget that egyptians are africans, not europeans. and if the hebrews were olive toned how the hell would moses passed off as the pharaoh's grandson if the egyptians were black? and if joseph and his brothers were olive toned how would not joseph's brothers recognise him if he was amongst a bunch of black people. he would have stood out. you posted that mural of black egyptians, not me!
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I don't see how that proves anything.

Look I can do the same. Please provide historical, empirical evidence not just some linked photos that could have come from anywhere.

[link to www.google.ie]


[link to www.google.ie]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26263464

Well you just provided the firepower for my evidence that the Hebrews were black. You just posted clear evidence of black Egyptians. Wasn't HEBREW Moses in the pharaohs home and passed for his grandson? Would he had passed if he was another color or race other than black?
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Eh no, none of those are black, only the Nubians. Which one are you talking about? And they wouldn't have recognized him because they hadn't seen him in years and he would have been in royal attire. The Hebrews would have had olive skin like the Arabs so of course he would have blended in.
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what the hell are you talking about? the egyptians on that mural were black, not white nor arab looking. so quit it!black people have various skintones from jet black to high yellow. you white folks seem to forget that egyptians are africans, not europeans. and if the hebrews were olive toned how the hell would moses passed off as the pharaoh's grandson if the egyptians were black? and if joseph and his brothers were olive toned how would not joseph's brothers recognise him if he was amongst a bunch of black people. he would have stood out. you posted that mural of black egyptians, not me!
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And you Black people are IDIOTS! Non of you seem to Know History, You Morons think you Built the Pyramids. I can see why White people are Racist Against Blacks.
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I'm Jewish and I doubt the Original Hebrews were Black.
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Your a convert your not really jewish. You can trace you lineage right back to Georgia not to Abraham. Georgia is your homeland not israel.
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He is a convert from Europe, he belongs in Europe not America.
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Re: were the original hebrews black?
I'm Jewish and I doubt the Original Hebrews were Black.
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Your a convert your not really jewish. You can trace you lineage right back to Georgia not to Abraham. Georgia is your homeland not israel.
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You Idiot. I don't Practice Judaism. And I never Did. I am an Ashkenazim Jew and My Parents just Practiced Christianity.
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Then why did you just say your a jew? Are you disagreeing with what Im saying because it seems like you just agreed. Your an ashkenazi jew meaning someone in your family tree converted in their homeland of Georgia/Khazar or even later down the road in Europe.

It doesnt matter if you pray to Hashem or not you just said your a jew and that real jews are white like you. This is simply not true.

Its almost like saying the 1940's invasion of Palestine was gods doing and your people are no longer in exile. I didnt see Hashem come and give Israel back, did I miss something?
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Well you just provided the firepower for my evidence that the Hebrews were black. You just posted clear evidence of black Egyptians. Wasn't HEBREW Moses in the pharaohs home and passed for his grandson? Would he had passed if he was another color or race other than black?
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Eh no, none of those are black, only the Nubians. Which one are you talking about? And they wouldn't have recognized him because they hadn't seen him in years and he would have been in royal attire. The Hebrews would have had olive skin like the Arabs so of course he would have blended in.
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what the hell are you talking about? the egyptians on that mural were black, not white nor arab looking. so quit it!black people have various skintones from jet black to high yellow. you white folks seem to forget that egyptians are africans, not europeans. and if the hebrews were olive toned how the hell would moses passed off as the pharaoh's grandson if the egyptians were black? and if joseph and his brothers were olive toned how would not joseph's brothers recognise him if he was amongst a bunch of black people. he would have stood out. you posted that mural of black egyptians, not me!
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And you Black people are IDIOTS! Non of you seem to Know History, You Morons think you Built the Pyramids. I can see why White people are Racist Against Blacks.
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and i guess you whitays built the pyramids. oh and whitay built the great wall oh and whitay built the pyramids in mexico and peru. whitays just traveled all over the globe building shit! oh the superior whitays!!!! GTFOH!
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Eh no, none of those are black, only the Nubians. Which one are you talking about? And they wouldn't have recognized him because they hadn't seen him in years and he would have been in royal attire. The Hebrews would have had olive skin like the Arabs so of course he would have blended in.
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what the hell are you talking about? the egyptians on that mural were black, not white nor arab looking. so quit it!black people have various skintones from jet black to high yellow. you white folks seem to forget that egyptians are africans, not europeans. and if the hebrews were olive toned how the hell would moses passed off as the pharaoh's grandson if the egyptians were black? and if joseph and his brothers were olive toned how would not joseph's brothers recognise him if he was amongst a bunch of black people. he would have stood out. you posted that mural of black egyptians, not me!
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And you Black people are IDIOTS! Non of you seem to Know History, You Morons think you Built the Pyramids. I can see why White people are Racist Against Blacks.
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and i guess you whitays built the pyramids. oh and whitay built the great wall oh and whitay built the pyramids in mexico and peru. whitays just traveled all over the globe building shit! oh the superior whitays!!!! GTFOH!
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And you black People are to Stupid to spell for Shit.
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Are not most of the Jews today of Caucasian origin (khazar or rhadanite) whose ancestors converted to Judaism in the medieval times? I give more credence to the original Hebrews being black than I do of white/ Caucasian Jewry claiming to be semitic if we're talking about genetics and ancestry.

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what the hell are you talking about? the egyptians on that mural were black, not white nor arab looking. so quit it!black people have various skintones from jet black to high yellow. you white folks seem to forget that egyptians are africans, not europeans. and if the hebrews were olive toned how the hell would moses passed off as the pharaoh's grandson if the egyptians were black? and if joseph and his brothers were olive toned how would not joseph's brothers recognise him if he was amongst a bunch of black people. he would have stood out. you posted that mural of black egyptians, not me!
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And you Black people are IDIOTS! Non of you seem to Know History, You Morons think you Built the Pyramids. I can see why White people are Racist Against Blacks.
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and i guess you whitays built the pyramids. oh and whitay built the great wall oh and whitay built the pyramids in mexico and peru. whitays just traveled all over the globe building shit! oh the superior whitays!!!! GTFOH!
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And you black People are to Stupid to spell for Shit.
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as quoted by you. ill make highlights. "And you Black people are IDIOTS! Non of you seem to Know History, You Morons think you Built the Pyramids. I can see why White people are Racist Against Blacks."
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And you Black people are IDIOTS! Non of you seem to Know History, You Morons think you Built the Pyramids. I can see why White people are Racist Against Blacks.
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and i guess you whitays built the pyramids. oh and whitay built the great wall oh and whitay built the pyramids in mexico and peru. whitays just traveled all over the globe building shit! oh the superior whitays!!!! GTFOH!
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And you black People are to Stupid to spell for Shit.
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as quoted by you. ill make highlights. "And you Black people are IDIOTS! Non of you seem to Know History, You Morons think you Built the Pyramids. I can see why White people are Racist Against Blacks."
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"Non" can be used as the same as "None". Dumb ass. And I am sorry I made one Grammar Mistake with using the Word "to".
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and i guess you whitays built the pyramids. oh and whitay built the great wall oh and whitay built the pyramids in mexico and peru. whitays just traveled all over the globe building shit! oh the superior whitays!!!! GTFOH!
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And you black People are to Stupid to spell for Shit.
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as quoted by you. ill make highlights. "And you Black people are IDIOTS! Non of you seem to Know History, You Morons think you Built the Pyramids. I can see why White people are Racist Against Blacks."
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"Non" can be used as the same as "None". Dumb ass. And I am sorry I made one Grammar Mistake with using the Word "to".
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that dont fly, white guy. not the same context. rewind and come again!
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And you black People are to Stupid to spell for Shit.
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as quoted by you. ill make highlights. "And you Black people are IDIOTS! Non of you seem to Know History, You Morons think you Built the Pyramids. I can see why White people are Racist Against Blacks."
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"Non" can be used as the same as "None". Dumb ass. And I am sorry I made one Grammar Mistake with using the Word "to".
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that dont fly, white guy. not the same context. rewind and come again!
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Alright, Thank You Sociopath, I could point out Many Grammar Mistakes that YOU Made. Here are a Few for You: Capitalization is Good and "Whitay" is Spelled "Whitey".
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I am talking about the Hebrews.
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Hebrew????? ?????

WTF is that???
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A people descended from Shem, Son of Noah.
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Then I am a hebrew believe me?
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If you are black, you are descended from Ham, not Shem.
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circumstantial proof that the original hebrews were black and it is not coming from a black power source but right from the white man's mouth. DAMNING EVIDENCE RIGHT HERE!!!!!



cant seem to find the other most damning evidence of black hebrews on youtube. someone seems to have gotten rid of that LOL!!!
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lol this should be good. Please post link because I cannot watch videos.
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They sure as fuck weren't white with blue eyes
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lol no but they were the same people. Just in a very different climate.
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Your kidding right? Why are white people near the equator not giving birth to black babies then? Your saying these dark skinned jews moved like 800 miles North East into georgia/khazar and all of a sudden started having white babies?

Evolution, if real would take thousands more years than this to kick in. The reason jews are white now is because they converted. They wanted to be "gods chosen ones" and converted to judaism. This clearly doesnt count and they are no more his chosen ones than I am. The true hebrew tribes have nearly been wiped out by these zio-jews who stole their identity.
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No I am not kidding. And I am not talking about black skin but olive skin to white is not that big of a stretch over thousands of years. And you are obviously not listening to me because they were not dark skinned, ie black. You stupid black Afro-centrics just cannot accept the truth.
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as quoted by you. ill make highlights. "And you Black people are IDIOTS! Non of you seem to Know History, You Morons think you Built the Pyramids. I can see why White people are Racist Against Blacks."
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"Non" can be used as the same as "None". Dumb ass. And I am sorry I made one Grammar Mistake with using the Word "to".
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that dont fly, white guy. not the same context. rewind and come again!
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Alright, Thank You Sociopath, I could point out Many Grammar Mistakes that YOU Made. Here are a Few for You: Capitalization is Good and "Whitay" is Spelled "Whitey".
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Nobody says "whitey" anymore in the hood. It's whitay! Get with the lingo, bingo! And don't correct my grammar mistakes. It was intentional. I'm not writing an essay for a grade. Sorry!
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I don't see how that proves anything.

Look I can do the same. Please provide historical, empirical evidence not just some linked photos that could have come from anywhere.

[link to www.google.ie]


[link to www.google.ie]
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Well you just provided the firepower for my evidence that the Hebrews were black. You just posted clear evidence of black Egyptians. Wasn't HEBREW Moses in the pharaohs home and passed for his grandson? Would he had passed if he was another color or race other than black?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25386736


Eh no, none of those are black, only the Nubians. Which one are you talking about? And they wouldn't have recognized him because they hadn't seen him in years and he would have been in royal attire. The Hebrews would have had olive skin like the Arabs so of course he would have blended in.
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what the hell are you talking about? the egyptians on that mural were black, not white nor arab looking. so quit it!black people have various skintones from jet black to high yellow. you white folks seem to forget that egyptians are africans, not europeans. and if the hebrews were olive toned how the hell would moses passed off as the pharaoh's grandson if the egyptians were black? and if joseph and his brothers were olive toned how would not joseph's brothers recognise him if he was amongst a bunch of black people. he would have stood out. you posted that mural of black egyptians, not me!
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What the hell are you talking about? Are you bloody color-blind? Please tell me which picture you are speaking of for the last time. And black people are yellow not too? lol what are you smoking? Did they teach you that in Afro-centric history class? Asians are yellow, certainly not black people. And you clearly have selective hearing because the Egyptians were not black but had olive skin too as you can see from their paintings.
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Eh no, none of those are black, only the Nubians. Which one are you talking about? And they wouldn't have recognized him because they hadn't seen him in years and he would have been in royal attire. The Hebrews would have had olive skin like the Arabs so of course he would have blended in.
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what the hell are you talking about? the egyptians on that mural were black, not white nor arab looking. so quit it!black people have various skintones from jet black to high yellow. you white folks seem to forget that egyptians are africans, not europeans. and if the hebrews were olive toned how the hell would moses passed off as the pharaoh's grandson if the egyptians were black? and if joseph and his brothers were olive toned how would not joseph's brothers recognise him if he was amongst a bunch of black people. he would have stood out. you posted that mural of black egyptians, not me!
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And you Black people are IDIOTS! Non of you seem to Know History, You Morons think you Built the Pyramids. I can see why White people are Racist Against Blacks.
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and i guess you whitays built the pyramids. oh and whitay built the great wall oh and whitay built the pyramids in mexico and peru. whitays just traveled all over the globe building shit! oh the superior whitays!!!! GTFOH!
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Black people certainly didn't. lol
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They sure as fuck weren't white with blue eyes
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lol no but they were the same people. Just in a very different climate.
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Your kidding right? Why are white people near the equator not giving birth to black babies then? Your saying these dark skinned jews moved like 800 miles North East into georgia/khazar and all of a sudden started having white babies?

Evolution, if real would take thousands more years than this to kick in. The reason jews are white now is because they converted. They wanted to be "gods chosen ones" and converted to judaism. This clearly doesnt count and they are no more his chosen ones than I am. The true hebrew tribes have nearly been wiped out by these zio-jews who stole their identity.
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No I am not kidding. And I am not talking about black skin but olive skin to white is not that big of a stretch over thousands of years. And you are obviously not listening to me because they were not dark skinned, ie black. You stupid black Afro-centrics just cannot accept the truth.
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Im not black Im educated. I know the jews that live in Israel right now are all from Georgia/Khazar or Europe. None of them can trace their lineage to Israel. This is fact.
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Well you just provided the firepower for my evidence that the Hebrews were black. You just posted clear evidence of black Egyptians. Wasn't HEBREW Moses in the pharaohs home and passed for his grandson? Would he had passed if he was another color or race other than black?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25386736


Eh no, none of those are black, only the Nubians. Which one are you talking about? And they wouldn't have recognized him because they hadn't seen him in years and he would have been in royal attire. The Hebrews would have had olive skin like the Arabs so of course he would have blended in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26263464


what the hell are you talking about? the egyptians on that mural were black, not white nor arab looking. so quit it!black people have various skintones from jet black to high yellow. you white folks seem to forget that egyptians are africans, not europeans. and if the hebrews were olive toned how the hell would moses passed off as the pharaoh's grandson if the egyptians were black? and if joseph and his brothers were olive toned how would not joseph's brothers recognise him if he was amongst a bunch of black people. he would have stood out. you posted that mural of black egyptians, not me!
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What the hell are you talking about? Are you bloody color-blind? Please tell me which picture you are speaking of for the last time. And black people are yellow now too? lol what are you smoking? Did they teach you that in Afro-centric history class? Asians are yellow, certainly not black people. And you clearly have selective hearing because the Egyptians were not black but had olive skin too as you can see from their paintings.
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Fixed.
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what the hell are you talking about? the egyptians on that mural were black, not white nor arab looking. so quit it!black people have various skintones from jet black to high yellow. you white folks seem to forget that egyptians are africans, not europeans. and if the hebrews were olive toned how the hell would moses passed off as the pharaoh's grandson if the egyptians were black? and if joseph and his brothers were olive toned how would not joseph's brothers recognise him if he was amongst a bunch of black people. he would have stood out. you posted that mural of black egyptians, not me!
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And you Black people are IDIOTS! Non of you seem to Know History, You Morons think you Built the Pyramids. I can see why White people are Racist Against Blacks.
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and i guess you whitays built the pyramids. oh and whitay built the great wall oh and whitay built the pyramids in mexico and peru. whitays just traveled all over the globe building shit! oh the superior whitays!!!! GTFOH!
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Black people certainly didn't. lol
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Yeah, Black People are to Stupid to do those Kinds of things. I NEVER Met 1 Black Person in My life who knew History. I have met black people thinking they Were "Enslaved in the United States for 400 Years", which the United States hasn't even been around for 400 Years.
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Hebrew????? ?????

WTF is that???
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A people descended from Shem, Son of Noah.
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Then I am a hebrew believe me?
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If you are black, you are descended from Ham, not Shem.
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Well according to the zondervan bible the negroes are not the son of ham but the other dark races are.
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lol no but they were the same people. Just in a very different climate.
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Your kidding right? Why are white people near the equator not giving birth to black babies then? Your saying these dark skinned jews moved like 800 miles North East into georgia/khazar and all of a sudden started having white babies?

Evolution, if real would take thousands more years than this to kick in. The reason jews are white now is because they converted. They wanted to be "gods chosen ones" and converted to judaism. This clearly doesnt count and they are no more his chosen ones than I am. The true hebrew tribes have nearly been wiped out by these zio-jews who stole their identity.
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No I am not kidding. And I am not talking about black skin but olive skin to white is not that big of a stretch over thousands of years. And you are obviously not listening to me because they were not dark skinned, ie black. You stupid black Afro-centrics just cannot accept the truth.
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Im not black Im educated. I know the jews that live in Israel right now are all from Georgia/Khazar or Europe. None of them can trace their lineage to Israel. This is fact.
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Sure thing Bubba and you obviously got a shit education.

Do you also dispute Prophecy?

REASON 1: FULFILLMENT OF ZEPHANIAH'S PROPHECY
Zephaniah chapter two begins with statements clearly indicating it is a "latter day" prophecy. Verse two sets the time-frame of this chapter as being just "before the day of the Lord's anger," and verse three reiterates that this prophecy applies to the time just prior to "the Day of the Lord." Verses 4 - 5 pronounce "woe" upon the cities and inhabitants "of the seacoast," and it clear that the "seacoast" of Palestine is being discussed due to the mention of the cities of Gaza, Ashdod, and Ekron. Verse seven describes the "woe" that will befall these people (also called "Cherethites" and "Philistines" in verse 5) in the following prophecy of God: "the coast shall be for the remnant of Judah; they shall feed thereupon; in the houses of Ashkelon shall they lie down in the evening; for the Lord their God shall visit them, and turn away their captivity." (Emphasis added.)
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This prophecy clearly states that God will give the historic land of the Philistines (Palestine) to "Judah" just prior to the "Day of the Lord." It furthermore indicates that God was not going to "turn away [Judah's] captivity" until just prior to the Day of the Lord. The phrase "turn away their captivity" is a bit clumsy; it simply means "end their captivity." In 1948, the Jewish nation called Israel was born in the "seacoast" region of old Palestine, fulfilling this prophecy. Indeed, the 1988 Edition of the Encyclopedia Americana notes this about Israel's population: "About 70% of it is concentrated in the Mediterranean coastal strip..."] This is exactly what Zephaniah 2 prophesied would occur to Judah in the latter days.
Because the Jews had been a stateless people scattered among the nations for centuries (even millennia), the prophecy's language that their captivity would be "turned away" (i.e. "ended") is very descriptive of the fate of the Jews, a people who had not had their own nation for a very long time.
Furthermore, we must accept the fact that God, in his perfect knowledge, has always known where "the house of Judah" was! The historic fact is that God chose to use modern Jews to fulfill this prophecy about "the house of Judah." This is powerful evidence that modern Jews are the modern house of Judah. Zephaniah 2:6 also prophesies that agricultural pursuits were to prosper when the "house of Judah" reestablished a nation in Palestine, and much has been written documenting that the Israelis have "made the desert bloom" with their innovative, high-tech agricultural efforts.
A prophecy in Zechariah 14 supports the above analysis of Zephaniah 2. Zechariah 14:1 begins with "Behold the Day of the Lord cometh..." This is the same time frame as Zephaniah 2 (just prior to the Day of the Lord). Zechariah 14:2-3 prophesies that "all nations" will be gathered to battle in the region of Jerusalem, and that the Lord will come to fight against the nations attacking Jerusalem when "his feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives." Christians understand this to be a prophecy of the second coming of Jesus Christ, and verse five adds that the Lord will bring "all the saints" with him (an obvious reference to the resurrection of the dead). The rest of the chapter gives more information about this climactic battle and the establishment of the Lord's rule on earth. Verse 14 states: "Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem." None of the other tribes of Israel is specifically mentioned in this prophecy, but "Judah" is there in sufficiently large numbers to warrant God's mentioning them by name. This is consistent with Zephaniah's prophecy that Judah will build a nation in Palestine in the latter days. Zechariah's prophecy indicates that Judah will be fighting to defend Jerusalem in a great war which climaxes with the return of the Conquering Messiah! What people now live in and have sovereignty over the city of Jerusalem? The Jews! Again, Bible prophecies for the latter days indicate that modern Jews are the house (or tribe) of Judah.
To conclude this point, it is acknowledged that placing the name "Israel" on the modern Jewish nation is a misnomer which causes much confusion to many students of the Bible. The Jewish state was named after the historical land of Israel, even though the people establishing the nation were from the house of Judah, not the house of Israel (the descendants of the ten tribes of Israel). A prophecy in Ezekiel 37:15-28 confirms that "Judah" and "Israel" will remain separate entities on the earth until they are reunited under a resurrected King David after the return of Christ.
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REASON 2: THE JEWS ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN PEOPLE
Some material sent to me argues that "the Jews can't be an Israelite tribe because they did not become Christians like the rest of the tribes." In fact, there is a biblical prophecy which foretells that "Judah" will not "become Christian" until Jesus Christ returns as the "Conquering Messiah" (this terminology reflects the Christian viewpoint of Messianic prophecies).
Zechariah 12 is a prophecy devoted to the reaction of the house of Judah (and Levi, a large percentage of whom remained with Judah) when the Messiah returns and saves them from imminent destruction. Many times the phrase "in that day" is repeated in this chapter, a phrase indicating the general time of the latter days and/or the Day of the Lord. Verse two prophesies that God "will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling to all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege against Judah and Jerusalem." This parallels Zechariah 14 which speaks of a time when "all nations are gathered against Jerusalem." Notice that many nations are besieging "Judah and Jerusalem." The Bible presents "Judah and Jerusalem" as so closely linked with each other in the latter days that they are mentioned together. This has happened as the Israelis have made Jerusalem the capital of the Jewish state, and Jerusalem has become a "cup of trembling" (a major flashpoint) in world politics. Verse six prophesies that God will make: "...the governors of Judah like a hearth of fire among the wood...and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem."
God prophesies that "Judah" would be a militarily victorious nation in the Middle East (the geographic setting of this entire chapter is the region around Jerusalem) during the latter days. This prophecy also indicates that Judah will "devour" the people who border them ("devour" indicates not just conquering people but an absorbing of their territory as well). This has been dramatically fulfilled by the Israelis in the Arab-Israeli wars of 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973; the Israelis conquered ("devoured") territory all around them, taking control of the Egyptian Sinai, Syria's Golan Heights, the Gaza Strip and Jordan's West Bank. Some of this territory has been bartered away as part of the "Mideast Peace Process," but the prophecy was fulfilled nonetheless.
This prophecy also indicates a time will come when God will intervene personally to "save Judah" and "defend Jerusalem" (verses seven and eight). Zechariah 14 prophesies that Judah and Jerusalem will be invaded just prior to the Lord's return, and the phrase "Mount of Olives" in Zechariah 14:4 confirm the setting is the geographical city of Jerusalem in the modern Jewish nation. This chapter parallels Acts 1:9-12 which states Jesus Christ ascended to heaven from the "mount called 0livet" (the Mount of Olives), and as He ascended to heaven an angel announced that He would return "in like manner." Revelation 16:12-16 shows an invading army headed by "the kings of the east" will march westward toward Jerusalem across the Euphrates River toward the valley of Megiddo (i.e. "Armageddon") in the Israeli nation.[1]
Zechariah 12:9 prophesies the Messiah will "destroy" the nations that come against Jerusalem, and verses 10-14 reveal some surprising information. Judah, the house of David,
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"the inhabitants of Jerusalem," and the Levites (all these groups are part of the house of Judah) are astounded and dismayed at the identity of their Messiah!
The God of the Bible who inspired this prophecy declares that "Judah" (the Jews) will "look upon me whom they have pierced," and will "mourn" for him as for an "only son" as God gives them "the spirit of grace and supplication." This prophecy indicates that "Judah" and "Levi" will not accept or recognize Jesus Christ as the Messiah until he rescues them from an invading army at the culmination of this age. Judah never accepted Jesus Christ when he came as the "suffering Messiah," but they will accept him when he returns as the "conquering Messiah."
This prophecy further answers the question of who is modern Judah. Did the Jewish leadership of Judea (the Sanhedrin) cause Jesus Christ (Yeshua the "Anointed One") to be "pierced" by the Romans when He was crucified? Yes. His hands and his side were "pierced" in the crucifixion process (John 19:34, 20:25). Do modern Jews now live in the area of Jerusalem, and are they non-Christian? Yes. Does Zechariah 12's prophecy support the view that modern, non-Christian Jews living in the Jerusalem region are the descendants of "Judah" and "Levi?" Yes. Therefore, does God's Word indicate that today's Jews are the modern "house of Judah?" Yes!
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what the hell are you talking about? the egyptians on that mural were black, not white nor arab looking. so quit it!black people have various skintones from jet black to high yellow. you white folks seem to forget that egyptians are africans, not europeans. and if the hebrews were olive toned how the hell would moses passed off as the pharaoh's grandson if the egyptians were black? and if joseph and his brothers were olive toned how would not joseph's brothers recognise him if he was amongst a bunch of black people. he would have stood out. you posted that mural of black egyptians, not me!
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And you Black people are IDIOTS! Non of you seem to Know History, You Morons think you Built the Pyramids. I can see why White people are Racist Against Blacks.
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and i guess you whitays built the pyramids. oh and whitay built the great wall oh and whitay built the pyramids in mexico and peru. whitays just traveled all over the globe building shit! oh the superior whitays!!!! GTFOH!
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And you black People are to Stupid to spell for Shit.
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stop it with your fucking racism.

guess what. ALL of you are also following satans lie by being racist.

this isnt about OUR races. its about the lies our collective masters have told us.

If you follow in with hate and saying who is saved and who isnt, it only serves to destroy us all by dividing us.

this is exactly what Im saying. we WANT to believe things, but nothing we WANT is going to be true. truth is impartial to wants and desires. illusion however is not.

so stop the hate and the violence. Gods purpose, as well as satans, involve people of all races and colors. The only reason he chose an initial chosen people was because of the heathens of other races had been infiltrated by fallen angels, false religion, and false governance - clearly tribal people were the only pure natural people, and that is why. it wasnt BECAUSE they were black.

thats what your all confusing here. it was because they hadnt been tainted by the false ideas of man and outside influence from the stars, so of course god would choose them to spread the message, they wouldnt have already seen A FALSE DEITY WHO CLAIMED TO BE GOD!!! if they went to, say, the white people up north, theyd have killed him for heresy.

oh wait. they DID THAT WITH JESUS!!!!!!!!

so yeah. its not about race. god wants us ALL to follow him in his ways. god loves us all, white and black, olive and tan skinned.

anybody saying anything else is lying - clearly humanity and its achievements are all about the collective of the entirety of the group. How great one of us becomes doesn't matter. its not about us becoming gods individually, but about the trek of all of us.

so please, dont hate. Hate was created by the people who falsified the truth so they could continue becoming gods, as the tradition of men has become this deification process - people want to write in their name in history, have people use them as influence in all following ages even though they are dead and gone and the world they lived in will never come back, so often their views are pointless to hold onto.

dont hate each other.

dont argue over who owns what - nobody owns ideas. even the first to have the idea dont own it. this is part of the lie of society.

gods chosen people are those who work for him and according to him. I believe some people dont even know they are working for him and will reach heaven without a single prayer.

I believe some who pray and say to him I AM YOUR CHOSEN will be barred from heaven and tortured in more inhumane ways than even heathens and the most selfish in hell. for they are unwitting propagators of the synagogue of satan. not knowing good from evil, not understanding that they are spreading hate not love. satan, and not god.

Searching out the true history of this world is something we should ALL be mature enough for now. mature enough to understand it does not mean a limitation for anyone, except those who would serve to lie to us all.

not all white people are satan. many many many of us are slaves. same with black people and asians, and latinos and everyone else.

realize only about 1% of the entire worlds population, maybe even less, were born truly free. they are the ones who lied, by and for themselves. they didnt do it because any race is the seed of satan. they did it because THEY are the seed of satan.

and if you fail to understand that, then you too, are following the seed of satan unwittingly.

they want you to hate each other so you cant collectively find the truth and stand with each other, beyond the boundaries of race and border, together as one with the strength and might of god against them.

anyone trying to attack one another here is just shills and bait for the shills who dont want people to know and understand the truth.

I am white and god loves me too. god loves all races, there is very small difference in genetics based off racism, and in fact, two white parents with few white parents can have black children. same goes for two black people having white children.

yes its rare, because they need specific recessive traits due to breeding. but it IS possible. and these people still retain traits from both races, just their skin color may differ.

also even under apartheid in africa and other racial regulation by TPTB, even *small* portions of DNA related to that race relegated you to a lower class. even if visibly you were white and this is why.

people did not want you to know the truth, and as long as your kept in ignorance, you can be made to believe the lie and hate too, while all the while only really hiding the truth from yourself.

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