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were the original hebrews black?

 
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Also, these are hardly black facial features.

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Awwwww sure blacks don't..... [link to images.dailyexpress.co.uk]
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and i guess you whitays built the pyramids. oh and whitay built the great wall oh and whitay built the pyramids in mexico and peru. whitays just traveled all over the globe building shit! oh the superior whitays!!!! GTFOH!
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Black people certainly didn't. lol
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And the white man didn't build America nor Europe.
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Eh yeah we did. The Irish built a lot of it.
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Also whites built the blueprints, it only makes sense theyd use slaves to do the hard work
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...I think Arab would be the race of the first Hebrews...as people moved about you had the mixing of races, but Muslims and Hebrews are the same race,originally, few people have relocated to the Middle East until recently, Asians as labor, so the Arabs who have remained are DNA wise close to historical Arabs. Hebrews on the other hand are more like Europeans, Africans...mutts :)..and happily so...I would be surprised if a 500AD Hebrew would be identified from a 500AD Arab...
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"The true hebrew tribes have nearly been wiped out by these zio-jews who stole their identity."

True.
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coming from a white jewish family this interests me quite a bit...

if they were in fact black, perhaps the names of holy lands and families were changed early on in the bible.

anyone who has half a brain knows the religious beliefs of people existed and predated the writing of the first bibles by at least 500 years. likely MUCH longer.

the bible wasnt even written by the time they were captive in babylon. Of course supposedly it is, but when it was written, people had no access to any more than oral history. And its not like any other written languages exist as far back as sumerian, proving hebrew and Aramaic have little-nothing to do with any pre-existing alphabets, writing systems, etc.

Im not saying gods not real. Im saying his concept was hijacked, and used by MANY people who saw in religion the ability for social and psychological control, and decided to become an upper-ruling class by hijacking the idea and rewriting it to ensure limitations of power on a moral level - the evil people being at the top, unbridled by the rules and regulations they fed the poor, good people at the bottom, keeping them desperate whilst feeding them a false idea of a god that doesnt want them to be any happier.

there were tons of times where this wouldve been likely - with the advent of biased empires (which britain and the US idolize) like rome, etc. We know rome dealt with persian blacks who were quite advanced, and the egyptians were likely black as well. As white people became more educated and gained access to education its quite likley they wanted to hijack the image of "gods people" and "creators of civilzation" so they accepted this new system as true because "It must be"

especially since, if this is true, the hebrew people that had spread their religion initially, then had it hijacked and changed probably hundreds of years before christ, except in small circles of scattered nomadic people who held the tradition orally amongst each other, for fear of persecution by the greater half of the church.

perhaps a lot of the "hidden worship stories" about how the dredle was made as a game, and how they had hidden their religious practices from leaders wasnt to hide it from "pagan worshippers" but actually to hide it from the people who had hijacked their religion and altered history, and WOULD commit genocide if the word got out, as theyd have lost control of the populace, who wouldve done what jesus wanted them to and disestablish jerusalem/judea and rome under a more pleasant, commune like, community (which IS what jesus wanted - give each according to his needs and work together and praise god! anyone who says jesus was capitalist is PREYING on your weak mind and ignorance. this is why they killed him)

the people were already scattered, and it would be easy to take an uneducated class, read to them the few existing written stories, and use oral tradition as did the original hebrews, all the while altering the texts and ideas and seeing what worked best for them before putting down anything in writing, ensuring only one version got across.

they couldnt read!!! most people couldnt, this is why scribes were hired, even for kings. Id bet unless the king had absolute direct control, that in a society like rome which was semi-democratic/republican, the leaders, as well could be tainted with false education systems that only taught them to reach a certain level of intellect, and couldve even caused the fall of rome. This would make sense, seeing as bankers and capitalists existed back then, but seemingly disappeared during feudalistic times and the dark ages.

they didnt disappear. tons of traveling groups existed. but we arent part of their history, because we were the slaves who worked the land. we got our lords version of history, not the templars or the popes or the kings. There is plenty proof people of many races had even been to the new world earlier than told to us. but thats when they decided to send us here and colonize, so thats history.

those capitalist class, integrated with religion, were the only ones permitted to travel outside the bounds of the lordship, between nations, and be free. these free men existed, they made art and music, as well as went from lord to lord selling defense equipment (albeit early defense equipment). They made some of the earliest firebombing and sky weapons (kite bombs, oil weapons, etc).

In a feudal era, where supposedly ALL people but kings and knights had a lord, how did these people whom we can prove historically existed survive? Clearly this is a huge hole in the lie.

pretty much, we never ended the dark ages, we just let that one class of people stay ahead in technology and education, and have a monopoly on true human history!!!

so anyway they couldve easily changed gods name. perhaps the real hebrews saw this coming, as it did make it into the old testament, but the non believing converts who wanted social control and pseudo-government didnt care and still let it enter into the scripture.

perhaps the pagan gods of the other gentile races - both black and white - were held down in judaism as the 72 names of god, for which we have forgotten the real, singular name of god because of them, and now even gods real people have no access to it. ANY cabalistic name must be wrong, as the cabala evolved YEARS after the talmud, which evolved YEARS after the septuagint, which evolved MANY MANY years after the oral traditions and possible original manuscripts - if any manuscripts ever existed they could easily be stashed away in the vatican library, somewhere else, burnt with the library of alexandria, or somewhere else.

perhaps these other false religious institutes were the ones who even developed mind control and controlled government from behind the ages - they ARE the illuminati, illumined among the truth, never telling anyone what it is, letting them devise their own theories because it wont get in the way - history is rigged and they own the only singular copies of real history in existence at this point, so any theory you can devise is likely wrong unless it makes the claim that all history was a lie at some point and things were RADICALLY DIFFERENT at some point.

we all know this intrinsically to be true - the fall of man - inherent in us all as an archetype in the subconscios.

mkultra and other techniques WERE made from earlier, religious based techniques from the supposed "mystery schools" which were really likely priestly schools for non-hebrews, where the arts of the subconscious and conscious reality were taught to people, showing how mind control works. Do you guys really think that "temple prostitutes" and the like would not fit this description? nor the indoctrinated followers of false gods and idols?

these would be perfect to do mental experiments on, and perhaps even physical experiments, due to lack of knowledge and education. Not only could a smart person feel justified in this, but it would be easy to avoid question - if someone dies, god did it. not you. they will believe it.

this became harder as they needed education to fill the goal, so religion became less useful and the state took over, so they had staged a whole thing establish and make even america look free all the while being controlled by the same networks of bankers who established everything else. they fought partly for and partly against human rights throughout history, doing whatever was best to acheive their goal. the magnum opus of Idol1

so yes, im saying that all these secret societies are the ones who might be covering this up! holding their own beliefs close to heart because they believed the one they spread was a lie from the beginning. Because of this, they are satans children, though they dont believe in him at all, and they still are practicing pagans of various sorts. Id bet their religions and histories are far more detailed than what we get, giving them an unfair advantage they wish to keep, as well as keeping us in the dark.

perhaps the real holy land is in one of those impovershed nations in Africa that nobody seems to give a shit about.

perhaps their afraid that if we stabilized africa, people would inevitable gain access to the truth that ALL civilization, even pre-egypt was black, and was shared with other cultures before racism existed, but as nations rose and fell, inevitably wars started and hate was bred between the two groups in an age where nothing was written yet, so people made up their own stories. this was taken advantage of by the few who never bought it and found their own evidence.

if we established a thriving nation as good as ours or israels, these people could figure out their monuments and old civilization may have been defaced by others, or by the influence of others in an age of ignorance. they could find proof, so instead we LET pirates control them, continue to send BILLIONS to a false state of israel so they can try to start world war 3 and kill us all instead of sending relief or aid.

its really sketchy how there IS lots of evidence the first people were there, yet we dont give a fuck and keep holding down a racist paradigm here by NOT helping.

if shit was going down in europe, you know wed be the first to help. if something happened to israel, there would be tears everywhere and people donating and helping.

but nope. in Africa you have once thriving areas where the dollar became worthless and nobody cares. Former surgeons and doctors now work as prostitutes who get abused by UN soldiers (who, ironically, out of everyone usually dont pay under threat of violence) because there ARE NO JOBS.

children are starving and eating corpses on the beaches, but nobody cares. they also sell/do herion as it is the cheapest commodity to them because they run it for the pirates. cannibalism and anarchy are common - there are many people who act as raiders, killing women and children and eating them/taking their resources.

this is ALL legit current events btw. its just nobody cares to tell you. You can look it up, find it. but nobody cares. look the other way. even as its happening to us here, even as they are getting ready to throw us away like garbage too.

they need another race of morons to be their slaves, and too many people now know the tables are all rigged.

this is why the there is a government above the government, and why even the richest people cower in fear of something. its not god, not that they worship lucifer (at least not all the time), its that they cant tell you the truth, even if they can get away with spending billions on gaining it privately, if they divulged it, their whole families would probably be tortured raped and killed.

Im seriously thinking there is some legitimacy to this. I mean, jesus WAS pretty much a communist, and a lot of early pictures of him and the disciples were black. this may have been why they were crucified - they advocated the destruction of the upper class and the creation of an equal society where people worked because they had to for a goal, and not for caesar.

remember. the new testament bible wasnt in existence until the council of nicea, where it was being established as the OFFICIAL STATE RELIGION OF ROME. they teach you in church how persecuted the christians were, but they never tell you after they killed the real christians, or at least their leaders, they changed the whole religion and subverted it by allowing the masses of people to believe -- simply because they could not read and write!!!! the new teachers told them what to think, and they were as children compared to their priests, who took the word as absolute in trust.

Im fucking sorry, but I believe there is a god, a real one. I believe he is fucking pissed at the people who caused this shit. I dont think he hates us individually, because NONE of us can call his name anymore or know what he wanted to do with us. we are lost and its our leaders fault. I refuse to believe that the state religion of rome had anything true about it - at all - except for maybe a few names of historical figures. ANYTHING the state forces on you to believe is usually devoid of truth if you use common sense.

besides what are they fucking hiding in the secret libraries of the vatican? what are they hiding secretly in hidden places throughout the whole world?

honestly I hope god comes back. because he will be fucking enraged at this shit going down right now. I think there will be muslims, jews, hindus and christians in both hell and heaven, as well as atheists.

you want my reason? all of our knowledge has been subverted into mind control. there is no good education anywhere on earth accessible to the public anywhere, in any nation. the lie is so widespread there is no stopping it now, people WILL die to keep it alive even;

those people, along with the leaders and people throughout history who subverted the truth are the ones burning in hell.

truth is one thing and it is objective, but we cant see it anymore. the word of truth is the word of god. god does not lie. period. he is. the bible lies though, because it is NOT the word of god. but dont worry - your not alone christians, jews and muslims. your leaders went around the world hiding all the secret knowledge that could save us for themselves, hording it as treasure instead of sharing, while they destroyed archaeological and scientific wonders, as well as any proof of the real god so that they could control you and ensure no matter how advanced society got (remember, advanced tech was ALWAYS the plan) that even with education there would be no proof.

with puppet governments installed, and the need for permission to do archaeological digs or publish information, they can simply say no to letting you dig in the RIGHT place or if you find something else, they can ridicule you and make you look unprofessional, ruining your career and possibly killing your whole family if necessary.

sometimes they can even systematically remove important artifacts likely, horde them as well, and then later give you permission.

honestly, I hope god comes back. because then the plan is just screwed period. otherwise we may all be damned.

if we enter into one world government now, there is no hope of true human rights and no hope the real truth -the word of god itself- will ever be discovered, and we will be forever damned to life in hell.
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In other words, yes - contrary to white belief.
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I saw a documentary a long while back where that a negro tribe in Africa claimed to be a Jewish tribe. I can't remember the name of the program, but I was left believing that they were indeed Jewish.
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I saw a documentary a long while back where that a negro tribe in Africa claimed to be a Jewish tribe. I can't remember the name of the program, but I was left believing that they were indeed Jewish.
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There are "Jews" in practically ~every racial category, even Chinese, Japanese, Thai, etc.

Jews and Hebrews (Israelites) are not quite the same thing. REAL Jews are Israelites, but Israelites are not necessarily Jews.
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Negroes even try to steal the past.
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I think you all might enjoy this page of RH-Negative Origin Theory and the connection to Israelites - [link to www.rhnegativeregistry.com]
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I'm sorry there aren't enough intelligent people here to discuss your long and well written topic, OP. I really expected different but most posts in this thread have been extremely petty. :\

I have nothing to add, to be honest, but I agree with you for the most part. How can we believe anything? Even in the Bible it says the truth shall be so entangled with lies, Jesus himself will have to straighten it out.
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I doubt it. If the Bible is accurate in a historical sense, and I'm not commenting on it either way, then the Father of the Jews was Abram (later Abraham). He came from Ur, which is in today's location for Iraq. He might have been an immigrant, but I would think such an important detail would be discussed.
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I think you all might enjoy this page of RH-Negative Origin Theory and the connection to Israelites - [link to www.rhnegativeregistry.com]
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Rh- blood is in the minority, even among Jews and Europeans. I have my own theory about its origins, but most Rh- people don't like it.
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The truth of the matter at hand is the true descendants of ham were black for the word itself describes him.whites are descendants from hams son caanan the albino who recieved the curse of leprosy in the genesis and leviticus books.blacks today are the descendants of abraham through ishmael abrahams second son ishmael,since the isralites were desteoyed except for the tribe of yahuda,judah.the falashas of ethiopia are the only true full blood remnant that still practice and observe all 614 commandments.the ancient tamarians called ancient egiptians were olive toned skin,,like a olive,not like these tan or burnt skinned turkish invaders passing themselves off as true arabs and muslims.this truth of whos who on this planet has been written in the mother book talked about or prophecised in the book of revelation as the Holy Tablets.This Holy Tablet explains it all.
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The Solomonic Lineage of the Tribe of Judah is.

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I don't know if anyone else has brought this up but for the record, the great majority of Jewish scholarship and literature (hundreds of books and editorials in encyclopedias) which claim that the vast majority of today's modern Jews are not Semitic. Jewish historians acknowledge this. So again, I say, I give more credence to the theory of the original Hebrews being black or browned skin people than I do of the stereotypical 21st century Jew staking a racial claim to Palestine. Yet, most people today have a mixed gene pool so we would be hard pressed find in the western world at least, a typical Jewish person with concrete ancestral ties to the ancient Israelites.
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coming from a white jewish family this interests me quite a bit...

if they were in fact black, perhaps the names of holy lands and families were changed early on in the bible.

anyone who has half a brain knows the religious beliefs of people existed and predated the writing of the first bibles by at least 500 years. likely MUCH longer.

the bible wasnt even written by the time they were captive in babylon. Of course supposedly it is, but when it was written, people had no access to any more than oral history. And its not like any other written languages exist as far back as sumerian, proving hebrew and Aramaic have little-nothing to do with any pre-existing alphabets, writing systems, etc.

Im not saying gods not real. Im saying his concept was hijacked, and used by MANY people who saw in religion the ability for social and psychological control, and decided to become an upper-ruling class by hijacking the idea and rewriting it to ensure limitations of power on a moral level - the evil people being at the top, unbridled by the rules and regulations they fed the poor, good people at the bottom, keeping them desperate whilst feeding them a false idea of a god that doesnt want them to be any happier.

there were tons of times where this wouldve been likely - with the advent of biased empires (which britain and the US idolize) like rome, etc. We know rome dealt with persian blacks who were quite advanced, and the egyptians were likely black as well. As white people became more educated and gained access to education its quite likley they wanted to hijack the image of "gods people" and "creators of civilzation" so they accepted this new system as true because "It must be"

especially since, if this is true, the hebrew people that had spread their religion initially, then had it hijacked and changed probably hundreds of years before christ, except in small circles of scattered nomadic people who held the tradition orally amongst each other, for fear of persecution by the greater half of the church.

perhaps a lot of the "hidden worship stories" about how the dredle was made as a game, and how they had hidden their religious practices from leaders wasnt to hide it from "pagan worshippers" but actually to hide it from the people who had hijacked their religion and altered history, and WOULD commit genocide if the word got out, as theyd have lost control of the populace, who wouldve done what jesus wanted them to and disestablish jerusalem/judea and rome under a more pleasant, commune like, community (which IS what jesus wanted - give each according to his needs and work together and praise god! anyone who says jesus was capitalist is PREYING on your weak mind and ignorance. this is why they killed him)

the people were already scattered, and it would be easy to take an uneducated class, read to them the few existing written stories, and use oral tradition as did the original hebrews, all the while altering the texts and ideas and seeing what worked best for them before putting down anything in writing, ensuring only one version got across.

they couldnt read!!! most people couldnt, this is why scribes were hired, even for kings. Id bet unless the king had absolute direct control, that in a society like rome which was semi-democratic/republican, the leaders, as well could be tainted with false education systems that only taught them to reach a certain level of intellect, and couldve even caused the fall of rome. This would make sense, seeing as bankers and capitalists existed back then, but seemingly disappeared during feudalistic times and the dark ages.

they didnt disappear. tons of traveling groups existed. but we arent part of their history, because we were the slaves who worked the land. we got our lords version of history, not the templars or the popes or the kings. There is plenty proof people of many races had even been to the new world earlier than told to us. but thats when they decided to send us here and colonize, so thats history.

those capitalist class, integrated with religion, were the only ones permitted to travel outside the bounds of the lordship, between nations, and be free. these free men existed, they made art and music, as well as went from lord to lord selling defense equipment (albeit early defense equipment). They made some of the earliest firebombing and sky weapons (kite bombs, oil weapons, etc).

In a feudal era, where supposedly ALL people but kings and knights had a lord, how did these people whom we can prove historically existed survive? Clearly this is a huge hole in the lie.

pretty much, we never ended the dark ages, we just let that one class of people stay ahead in technology and education, and have a monopoly on true human history!!!

so anyway they couldve easily changed gods name. perhaps the real hebrews saw this coming, as it did make it into the old testament, but the non believing converts who wanted social control and pseudo-government didnt care and still let it enter into the scripture.

perhaps the pagan gods of the other gentile races - both black and white - were held down in judaism as the 72 names of god, for which we have forgotten the real, singular name of god because of them, and now even gods real people have no access to it. ANY cabalistic name must be wrong, as the cabala evolved YEARS after the talmud, which evolved YEARS after the septuagint, which evolved MANY MANY years after the oral traditions and possible original manuscripts - if any manuscripts ever existed they could easily be stashed away in the vatican library, somewhere else, burnt with the library of alexandria, or somewhere else.

perhaps these other false religious institutes were the ones who even developed mind control and controlled government from behind the ages - they ARE the illuminati, illumined among the truth, never telling anyone what it is, letting them devise their own theories because it wont get in the way - history is rigged and they own the only singular copies of real history in existence at this point, so any theory you can devise is likely wrong unless it makes the claim that all history was a lie at some point and things were RADICALLY DIFFERENT at some point.

we all know this intrinsically to be true - the fall of man - inherent in us all as an archetype in the subconscios.

mkultra and other techniques WERE made from earlier, religious based techniques from the supposed "mystery schools" which were really likely priestly schools for non-hebrews, where the arts of the subconscious and conscious reality were taught to people, showing how mind control works. Do you guys really think that "temple prostitutes" and the like would not fit this description? nor the indoctrinated followers of false gods and idols?

these would be perfect to do mental experiments on, and perhaps even physical experiments, due to lack of knowledge and education. Not only could a smart person feel justified in this, but it would be easy to avoid question - if someone dies, god did it. not you. they will believe it.

this became harder as they needed education to fill the goal, so religion became less useful and the state took over, so they had staged a whole thing establish and make even america look free all the while being controlled by the same networks of bankers who established everything else. they fought partly for and partly against human rights throughout history, doing whatever was best to acheive their goal. the magnum opus of Idol1

so yes, im saying that all these secret societies are the ones who might be covering this up! holding their own beliefs close to heart because they believed the one they spread was a lie from the beginning. Because of this, they are satans children, though they dont believe in him at all, and they still are practicing pagans of various sorts. Id bet their religions and histories are far more detailed than what we get, giving them an unfair advantage they wish to keep, as well as keeping us in the dark.

perhaps the real holy land is in one of those impovershed nations in Africa that nobody seems to give a shit about.

perhaps their afraid that if we stabilized africa, people would inevitable gain access to the truth that ALL civilization, even pre-egypt was black, and was shared with other cultures before racism existed, but as nations rose and fell, inevitably wars started and hate was bred between the two groups in an age where nothing was written yet, so people made up their own stories. this was taken advantage of by the few who never bought it and found their own evidence.

if we established a thriving nation as good as ours or israels, these people could figure out their monuments and old civilization may have been defaced by others, or by the influence of others in an age of ignorance. they could find proof, so instead we LET pirates control them, continue to send BILLIONS to a false state of israel so they can try to start world war 3 and kill us all instead of sending relief or aid.

its really sketchy how there IS lots of evidence the first people were there, yet we dont give a fuck and keep holding down a racist paradigm here by NOT helping.

if shit was going down in europe, you know wed be the first to help. if something happened to israel, there would be tears everywhere and people donating and helping.

but nope. in Africa you have once thriving areas where the dollar became worthless and nobody cares. Former surgeons and doctors now work as prostitutes who get abused by UN soldiers (who, ironically, out of everyone usually dont pay under threat of violence) because there ARE NO JOBS.

children are starving and eating corpses on the beaches, but nobody cares. they also sell/do herion as it is the cheapest commodity to them because they run it for the pirates. cannibalism and anarchy are common - there are many people who act as raiders, killing women and children and eating them/taking their resources.

this is ALL legit current events btw. its just nobody cares to tell you. You can look it up, find it. but nobody cares. look the other way. even as its happening to us here, even as they are getting ready to throw us away like garbage too.

they need another race of morons to be their slaves, and too many people now know the tables are all rigged.

this is why the there is a government above the government, and why even the richest people cower in fear of something. its not god, not that they worship lucifer (at least not all the time), its that they cant tell you the truth, even if they can get away with spending billions on gaining it privately, if they divulged it, their whole families would probably be tortured raped and killed.

Im seriously thinking there is some legitimacy to this. I mean, jesus WAS pretty much a communist, and a lot of early pictures of him and the disciples were black. this may have been why they were crucified - they advocated the destruction of the upper class and the creation of an equal society where people worked because they had to for a goal, and not for caesar.

remember. the new testament bible wasnt in existence until the council of nicea, where it was being established as the OFFICIAL STATE RELIGION OF ROME. they teach you in church how persecuted the christians were, but they never tell you after they killed the real christians, or at least their leaders, they changed the whole religion and subverted it by allowing the masses of people to believe -- simply because they could not read and write!!!! the new teachers told them what to think, and they were as children compared to their priests, who took the word as absolute in trust.

Im fucking sorry, but I believe there is a god, a real one. I believe he is fucking pissed at the people who caused this shit. I dont think he hates us individually, because NONE of us can call his name anymore or know what he wanted to do with us. we are lost and its our leaders fault. I refuse to believe that the state religion of rome had anything true about it - at all - except for maybe a few names of historical figures. ANYTHING the state forces on you to believe is usually devoid of truth if you use common sense.

besides what are they fucking hiding in the secret libraries of the vatican? what are they hiding secretly in hidden places throughout the whole world?

honestly I hope god comes back. because he will be fucking enraged at this shit going down right now. I think there will be muslims, jews, hindus and christians in both hell and heaven, as well as atheists.

you want my reason? all of our knowledge has been subverted into mind control. there is no good education anywhere on earth accessible to the public anywhere, in any nation. the lie is so widespread there is no stopping it now, people WILL die to keep it alive even;

those people, along with the leaders and people throughout history who subverted the truth are the ones burning in hell.

truth is one thing and it is objective, but we cant see it anymore. the word of truth is the word of god. god does not lie. period. he is. the bible lies though, because it is NOT the word of god. but dont worry - your not alone christians, jews and muslims. your leaders went around the world hiding all the secret knowledge that could save us for themselves, hording it as treasure instead of sharing, while they destroyed archaeological and scientific wonders, as well as any proof of the real god so that they could control you and ensure no matter how advanced society got (remember, advanced tech was ALWAYS the plan) that even with education there would be no proof.

with puppet governments installed, and the need for permission to do archaeological digs or publish information, they can simply say no to letting you dig in the RIGHT place or if you find something else, they can ridicule you and make you look unprofessional, ruining your career and possibly killing your whole family if necessary.

sometimes they can even systematically remove important artifacts likely, horde them as well, and then later give you permission.

honestly, I hope god comes back. because then the plan is just screwed period. otherwise we may all be damned.

if we enter into one world government now, there is no hope of true human rights and no hope the real truth -the word of god itself- will ever be discovered, and we will be forever damned to life in hell.
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### How could they be, I see no blacks in Iraq (Assyria/Babylon, how of the original Hebrew), this is pure B.S.
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The truth of the matter at hand is the true descendants of ham were black for the word itself describes him.whites are descendants from hams son caanan the albino who recieved the curse of leprosy in the genesis and leviticus books.blacks today are the descendants of abraham through ishmael abrahams second son ishmael,since the isralites were desteoyed except for the tribe of yahuda,judah.the falashas of ethiopia are the only true full blood remnant that still practice and observe all 614 commandments.the ancient tamarians called ancient egiptians were olive toned skin,,like a olive,not like these tan or burnt skinned turkish invaders passing themselves off as true arabs and muslims.this truth of whos who on this planet has been written in the mother book talked about or prophecised in the book of revelation as the Holy Tablets.This Holy Tablet explains it all.
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We need to clarify something here. Caucasian does not equal "White". They are two distinctly different things. The confusion between those two terms is deliberately perpetuated by our Jewish-dominated American government. Caucasian/Shem is one of the pure races (like Mongoloid/Japheth, and Negroid/Ham). "White"/Aryan on the other hand, is a ~mixed, Hybrid race.

So yes, the "whites" or "Aryans" came from Canaan and Japheth.

But the original Caucasians (from which the "whites" were later derived) came from Shem.
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Of course they ARE and WERE. Though some gentiles have mixed in with the Hebrews.




1) The 10 tribes (Northern Kingdom) were taken out of Israel in 721 BC by Salamansar, King of Assyria.

2) They went under the Assyrian captivity for 3 years and around 718 B.C they sailed through the Euphrates, over the waters and into various regions of what we today called "The Western World" but the Apocrypha calls Asareth - hidden land. (2 Esdras 13:40-45)

3) Christopher Columbus, after being inspired by 2 Esdras 6:42 and convinced he would find riches, wealth and people along the atlantic, received financing from Isabella I and Ferdinand II to undertake the voyage to the "new world."

With me so far? Good....

Columbus was making a point to the Queen that according to the Apocrypha (2 Esdras 6:42) there's a certain part of the Earth they haven't inhabited yet and he thinks the 10 tribes are there. (Ronald Sanders in his book Lost tribes and promised lands gives a more complete insight into this).

So picture this, Late 1400s Columbus in the 1400's is in front of Counsel arguing with the bible about the "new world"...

Who are these "10 tribes" ? The Children of Israel who today we call: Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Panamanians etc etc etc. Arawak/Tainos and Native Americans.

4) Now, as for the other two tribes left in Israel, after the sacking of Jerusalem in 70 AD by Vespasian and Titus, it was prophesied that if the children of Israel didn't follow the commandments, they would be scattered across the world, read this in (Deut 28:64). Along with that, they would follow other gods, wood and stone (Wood representing the Cross of Christianity, Stone representing the Kaaba stone of Islam).

5) Deut 28:68 says that the Children of Israel would go into captivity by way of SHIPS to serve their enemies in a land they knew not, and would be sold. The word "Egypt" is used, but Egypt means BONDAGE (see Ex 13:3), considering the Children of Israel did hard bondage in Egypt as well as "America." - See the back of your dollar bill.

6) Jeremiah 17:4 says the children of Israel would lose their HERITAGE and would serve their enemies in a land they knew not.. guess what land that was? AMERICA. Only some of the Northern Kingdom who came to this side of the world (as aforementioned) knew about this land, but Judah, Benjamin and Levi who went into slavery by way of SHIPS knew nothing about this side of the world.

Also, When the children of Israel escaped the land in 70 AD, those who took heed and fled listened to the words of Christ in Luke 21:21 and fled into the Mountains, the ATLAS MOUNTAINS OF AFRICA and eventually settled in the Ivory Coast of Africa. Later on, they would fulfill the curses of Deut 28, in particular, the 68th verse.


Paul says in Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

See so when the Children of Israel fell, the Gentiles got rich. You tell me who controls all of the wealth today.... the people you are ignorantly upholding as "Gods chosen people."

Rom 11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

More proof. Children of Israel fell, Gentiles got rich. Don't forget the Romans took all of the riches and wealth from the temples after the sacking of Jerusalem in 70 AD.

I could go on and on with more proof, but understand this. Those Khazarian Edomites claiming to be Gods chosen people are Satans seed. Rev 2:9 3:9.

Books you may want to read:

Lost tribes and promised lands
From Babylon to Timbuktu
Hebrewism of West Africa
Complete works of Flavius Josephus
Who is Esau-Edom
And of course, the Bible (KJV).
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The truth of the matter at hand is the true descendants of ham were black for the word itself describes him.whites are descendants from hams son caanan the albino who recieved the curse of leprosy in the genesis and leviticus books.blacks today are the descendants of abraham through ishmael abrahams second son ishmael,since the isralites were desteoyed except for the tribe of yahuda,judah.the falashas of ethiopia are the only true full blood remnant that still practice and observe all 614 commandments.the ancient tamarians called ancient egiptians were olive toned skin,,like a olive,not like these tan or burnt skinned turkish invaders passing themselves off as true arabs and muslims.this truth of whos who on this planet has been written in the mother book talked about or prophecised in the book of revelation as the Holy Tablets.This Holy Tablet explains it all.
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We need to clarify something here. Caucasian does not equal "White". They are two distinctly different things. The confusion between those two terms is deliberately perpetuated by our Jewish-dominated American government. Caucasian/Shem is one of the pure races (like Mongoloid/Japheth, and Negroid/Ham). "White"/Aryan on the other hand, is a ~mixed, Hybrid race.

So yes, the "whites" or "Aryans" came from Canaan and Japheth.

But the original Caucasians (from which the "whites" were later derived) came from Shem.
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"whites are descendants from hams son caanan the albino who recieved..."

This is why "whites" (ie Aryans/Indo-Europeans, ~not original Caucasians) possess all kinds of DNA (iow, "whites" are not a pure race, even though most of them believe that they are): African, Asian, and European. They also possess Hybrid (subHuman, ie Neanderthal, etc.) DNA.
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Sovereign Creator: AHAYAH ASHER AHAYAH - I AM THAT I AM (Exodus 3:13-14)
Son: YASHAYAH (means Deliverer, Saviour, Defender)


Some interesting videos:

Hollywood know's who the true Hebrew Israelites are.



They Know Who You Are, Do You?



HEBREW KINGDOM OF JUDAH FOUND - IN WEST AFRICA
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The truth of the matter at hand is the true descendants of ham were black for the word itself describes him.whites are descendants from hams son caanan the albino who recieved the curse of leprosy in the genesis and leviticus books.blacks today are the descendants of abraham through ishmael abrahams second son ishmael,since the isralites were desteoyed except for the tribe of yahuda,judah.the falashas of ethiopia are the only true full blood remnant that still practice and observe all 614 commandments.the ancient tamarians called ancient egiptians were olive toned skin,,like a olive,not like these tan or burnt skinned turkish invaders passing themselves off as true arabs and muslims.this truth of whos who on this planet has been written in the mother book talked about or prophecised in the book of revelation as the Holy Tablets.This Holy Tablet explains it all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1457226


We need to clarify something here. Caucasian does not equal "White". They are two distinctly different things. The confusion between those two terms is deliberately perpetuated by our Jewish-dominated American government. Caucasian/Shem is one of the pure races (like Mongoloid/Japheth, and Negroid/Ham). "White"/Aryan on the other hand, is a ~mixed, Hybrid race.

So yes, the "whites" or "Aryans" came from Canaan and Japheth.

But the original Caucasians (from which the "whites" were later derived) came from Shem.
 Quoting: shenandoah


"whites are descendants from hams son caanan the albino who recieved..."

This is why "whites" (ie Aryans/Indo-Europeans, ~not original Caucasians) possess all kinds of DNA (iow, "whites" are not a pure race, even though most of them believe that they are): African, Asian, and European. They also possess Hybrid (subHuman, ie Neanderthal, etc.) DNA.
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"whites [ie Aryans, not Caucasians] are descendants from hams son caanan the albino..."

That is why ~Aryans have Caucasoid mtDNA, but carry Mongoloid and Negroid yDNA -- for the most part.

"Ham's son Canaan, the albino"

Was a Hybrid. The albino gene is recessive, and was bred into the Aryan tribes by crossing Caucasoid female slaves with male Rhesus monkeys.

I know that is hard to believe, but it's true. That is how Rh- bloodtype originated, too.
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"Dont take my word for it, take theirs and the truth shall make you free!!!"


Jer 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

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