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I almost died last month...
I was admitted to the hospital last month for a serious hyperthyroid episode (thyroid storm) and a heart attack.

I almost died, my organs shut down, was in a coma for at least 3 days.

I was airlifted twice to different hospitals, and have no memory of it at all.

I'm not sure why I didn't die, but here I am.

They asked me every day (after I regained consciousnesss) if I wanted a flu shot.

No. No. No. No no no and NO. NO. Every day. NO.

Finally a nurse came in with a Do Not Resucscitate form for me to sign after they tried to give me a double dose of coumadin (blood thinner-rat poison).. omg. Omg, OMG!!!

I have to laugh at the timing, I'm appalled by this, but have to laugh.

I signed the DNR papers stating that I want EVERY action known by man and God to be performed on me, keeping me alive on tubes and machines and drugs etc. if the occassion ever arises. Ever.

I'm not going to make it easy to kill me off. I'm not going without a fight and intend to be a total pain in the ass.

So.

After 5 days of refusing their vaccines, they gave me a vaccine refusal form, acknowledging that I have been advised and accept the risks I take by refusing the flu vaccine.

Then they started telling me I need a pneumonia vaccine.

I said NO.

Out comes another form for me to sign, stating they advised me of my need for a pneumonia vaccine and I refused that as well.

They implied that perhaps I wasn't thinking clearly after all that near-death stuff I'd been through and that when I finally do come to my senses, I can destroy the refusal forms and get those vaccines, ASAP.

I guess mostly I'm surprised they didn't just vaccinate me while I was unconscious.


It's been a very strange experience.




I'd like to hear anything you have to share on the subject of death, NDEs, etc. if you'd like to share.

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You made the right decision on the vaccines.
They have viruses in them to cause more problems and they do not work either.

I have NEVER read anything positive about those shots they say we need.
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By federal law, they are supposed to cover the risks & benefits of NOT getting the vaccine.

AND, the risks & benefits of getting it.

To them, if you don't get the vaccine, you are putting yourself at risk.
vaccinefreehealth blogspot com

The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child.

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You made the right decision on the vaccines.
They have viruses in them to cause more problems and they do not work either.

I have NEVER read anything positive about those shots they say we need.
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It's my opinion that they are pure poison.

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By federal law, they are supposed to cover the risks & benefits of NOT getting the vaccine.

AND, the risks & benefits of getting it.

To them, if you don't get the vaccine, you are putting yourself at risk.
 Quoting: mopar28m



I thought I heard the nurse mumble something to about federal law ot threat of arrest or something.

Mostly I'm guessing those forms release them from any responsibility if something goes wrong.

I don't trust any part of the vaccine scams.
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I guess mostly I'm surprised they didn't just vaccinate me while I was unconscious.

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yeah, about that....
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I guess mostly I'm surprised they didn't just vaccinate me while I was unconscious.

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yeah, about that....
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LOL, don't say it..
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good on ya to refuse the vaccinations

really sounds like a scene out of a horrible sci fi 1984 scary movie

sadistic fucks just trying over and over and over to inject you with poison when you're at your weakest you've ever been

anyways, did you have a nde? if so explain in detail the complete experience please, thanks
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I almost died every day since oh I don't know 2005 (smirk).


CPAM you done.

Im the Son of SAM (outlet stores I will shut them all down, if you keep poisoning me.)

Tell Kennedy's home ain't playing.
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You're one smart cookie opie - glad u made it - get well and stay well.red_heart
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good on ya to refuse the vaccinations

really sounds like a scene out of a horrible sci fi 1984 scary movie

sadistic fucks just trying over and over and over to inject you with poison when you're at your weakest you've ever been

anyways, did you have a nde? if so explain in detail the complete experience please, thanks
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I think they were hoping I'd forget they were asking to vaccinate me every day.


Yes, it was an NDE, but there's a big gap in my memmory from the day before it happened until 2 days after waking up (at least a week of my memory is missing).

I was told that as soon as the helicopter was off the ground, that's when my heart and everything else just stopped. So I missed a 40 minute helicopter ride from one hospital to another.

I remember light, but don't know if it was from the operating room or something else.

I've been told I was full of drugs, from them trying to get my organs to function again. I was also told that for 2 days there were doctors standing around waiting for me to code.

I remember the feeling of rolling from side to side or floating, but don't know if that was real either.

I do know that once I sort of woke up, I couldn't close my eyes.

I couldn't speak. I couldn't answer questions although I believe I understood the questions asked. I couldn't form the words out loud.

It was like those dreams where you try to walk or speak, but you can't because you're stuck in cement.

Took several days for me to be able to speak a full sentence. That really scared me.

I had no control over my hands, I couldn't walk or feed myself.

I was on breathing and feeding tubes, etc. for at least 10 days.

It's strange how I went from being almost a vegetable to now walking, talking, writing and at least looking normal.

I'm weak, there's no doubt about that, and I have trouble with the more complex rehab exercises (walking backwards, sideways, sidestep stuff).

The doctors seem surprised at how quickly this has turned around. I have some trouble with typing and spelling but can spot my mistakes fairly easily.

I feel like I should remember more. Maybe it will come back to me, but right now it's missing time. Maybe the drugs they gave me wiped out my memory.


Doesn't seem right that I could be so close to death and not have memory of it, though.


In the future, I will not ignore hyperthyroid symptoms. Or chest pains.

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dude i just got out of the hosp myself - every few hrs they came in with needles - STOP...wtf you giving me.....
bagged em twice on the flu & pneu shots - told them the only thing auth'd is the damn pain killers, potassium & magnesium. you can stick it in your glory hole all the other BS.

they were even giving me blood thinners....well once...all the others i refused.

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What exactly happend with your thyroid.Any triggers that brought on the storm.
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Are you really glad to come back HERE? Every time I think I am gonna die and I end up coming back to consciousness Im like "oh man, not again, FUCK!"
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dude i just got out of the hosp myself - every few hrs they came in with needles - STOP...wtf you giving me.....
bagged em twice on the flu & pneu shots - told them the only thing auth'd is the damn pain killers, potassium & magnesium. you can stick it in your glory hole all the other BS.

they were even giving me blood thinners....well once...all the others i refused.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


I'm sorry to hear that, I hope you're okay now.

Are you saying they tried to give you vaccines without your approval??

I'm still at a physical therapy facility in Washington (state), not happy about being here but I'm stuck for now. Everything is so far away from everything else here, it's a miracle I was in town the day I had the heart attack. Otherwise I'd be long dead.

They're still giving me blood thinners, they say it's to avoid blood clots, but I'm up walking around a lot, so that seems kind of lame and suspicious.

They let me sleep throught the night now (I think) but while I was in ICU they would wake me up as soon as it looked like I'd fallen asleep. WTF... how can no sleep be good for you?? That was beyond exhausting.

They took so much blood... my arms looked awful. Bruised up, red marks. My arms still hurt bfrom all the needles.

Glad you're back with us, Phennommennonn.


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Just posted about this on another thread. Had to have heart re-started 3x. Finally came back. Began to feel everything spiral out of my "control." Was forgetting who I was, my name, family, life. My life did not flash before my eyes, it slipped away from me like an unwinding rope.

A feeling of lightness yet panic, because you will NOT be able to recall any of this and you WILL let go because you have not choice. It is very painful and utterly terrifying. It is not what you think. You will lose complete control and understand that in some respects this has all been meaningless.

You better put on your big-boy/girl pants. It is going to be like no fear you have ever felt before. My advice: let go and do not fight it. Fighting increases the pain and fear.

Good luck disengaging, because we will all have to do it. Remember do not fight.
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What exactly happend with your thyroid.Any triggers that brought on the storm.
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I was diagnosed with Graves disease (hyperthyroid) back in 2004, took medication until 2009 and then quit taking them because it was so difficult to get (which is ridiculous) but without insurance, I couldn't pay for the lab tests and I wasn't broke enough to go to a free clinic.

I felt weak and had bad heart palpitations for awhile but the symptoms slowly leveled off and for the most part I just pretended I was okay. I lost a lot of weight.

Then back in September/October 2012 I was in a really stressful situation, in a very cold house with a very unpleasant asshole roommate. I started having chest pains about 5 days before the heart attack.

I took a bunch of aspirin, maybe that prolonged my life.

I was living 65 miles from stores, doctors, etc. and I kept telling myself I'd be okay if I could just make the long drive to the doctor's office.

Roommate wouldn't drive me there (sweet) and she said there was no such thing as ambulances way out there, and they'd charge me $5k for a helicopter ride and I'd catch MRSA if I went to the hospital... so fuck it, I finally just drove myself. Had the heart attack around 3 pm that day.

I do want to beat the living shit out of her for this, but I won't.

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Are you really glad to come back HERE? Every time I think I am gonna die and I end up coming back to consciousness Im like "oh man, not again, FUCK!"
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Not necessarily glad I'm back, no.

But I wasn't given a choice this time and there are still things I want to do, people I love and need to see before I die.

So as difficult as this is, I wasn't ready to go and feel very fortunate that I'm still here.

Life is still a gift, in my opinion.
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Are you really glad to come back HERE? Every time I think I am gonna die and I end up coming back to consciousness Im like "oh man, not again, FUCK!"
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Not necessarily glad I'm back, no.

But I wasn't given a choice this time and there are still things I want to do, people I love and need to see before I die.

So as difficult as this is, I wasn't ready to go and feel very fortunate that I'm still here.

Life is still a gift, in my opinion.
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Every day we have is a gift.Keep on fighting.
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Quote: there are still things I want to do, people I love and need to see before I die.

You are stronger for not giving up. Use that strength to find the courage to do what you must do, not everyone gets a second chance.
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Are you really glad to come back HERE? Every time I think I am gonna die and I end up coming back to consciousness Im like "oh man, not again, FUCK!"
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Not necessarily glad I'm back, no.

But I wasn't given a choice this time and there are still things I want to do, people I love and need to see before I die.

So as difficult as this is, I wasn't ready to go and feel very fortunate that I'm still here.

Life is still a gift, in my opinion.
 Quoting: .. 1610510


Ha, it figures man, we need to think that way while we're here even when we really would probably chose not come back if someone offered a painless way out.
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Just posted about this on another thread. Had to have heart re-started 3x. Finally came back. Began to feel everything spiral out of my "control." Was forgetting who I was, my name, family, life. My life did not flash before my eyes, it slipped away from me like an unwinding rope.

A feeling of lightness yet panic, because you will NOT be able to recall any of this and you WILL let go because you have not choice. It is very painful and utterly terrifying. It is not what you think. You will lose complete control and understand that in some respects this has all been meaningless.

You better put on your big-boy/girl pants. It is going to be like no fear you have ever felt before. My advice: let go and do not fight it. Fighting increases the pain and fear.

Good luck disengaging, because we will all have to do it. Remember do not fight.
:)
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I'm sorry things have been so difficult for you.

I don't have any memory like I said, so I have no fear or pain associated with this experience. Not yet, anyway.

It was like flipping a light switch. From On to Off. Then back On again.

I'm not disengaging from this life until it's the last and only option I have. This one isn't going to kill me. I intend to use this to make myself stronger. I believe that's what will happen.

I understand that we all die.


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Quote: there are still things I want to do, people I love and need to see before I die.

You are stronger for not giving up. Use that strength to find the courage to do what you must do, not everyone gets a second chance.
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Thank you!
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THEY SAVED YOUR LIFE AND YOU ACT LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL YOU AND US ALL

whatever
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Wow. Interesting story OP.
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It's odd, when I went into the hospital they didn't try to get me take anything..vaccines I mean. No pushing the flu shot or anything else. I was surprised.

I was on heparin, lovenox and coumadin/warfarin, morphine and dilaudid.

The bastards did come into the room almost hourly, at least it seemed that way. Constantly stabbing me in my arms, my stomach, stealing my blood and giving me drugs. It's strange too, you'd think after almost dying they would have wanted me to rest.

The only papers they gave me were to do with the DNR and power of attorney stuff.

I'm glad you made it and I'm glad you said NO to the vaccines. It's getting ridiculous with the vaccines, you can't walk into a docs office without seeing the big damn signs trying to coax you into getting all of them.
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dude i just got out of the hosp myself - every few hrs they came in with needles - STOP...wtf you giving me.....
bagged em twice on the flu & pneu shots - told them the only thing auth'd is the damn pain killers, potassium & magnesium. you can stick it in your glory hole all the other BS.

they were even giving me blood thinners....well once...all the others i refused.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


I'm sorry to hear that, I hope you're okay now.

Are you saying they tried to give you vaccines without your approval??

I'm still at a physical therapy facility in Washington (state), not happy about being here but I'm stuck for now. Everything is so far away from everything else here, it's a miracle I was in town the day I had the heart attack. Otherwise I'd be long dead.

They're still giving me blood thinners, they say it's to avoid blood clots, but I'm up walking around a lot, so that seems kind of lame and suspicious.

They let me sleep throught the night now (I think) but while I was in ICU they would wake me up as soon as it looked like I'd fallen asleep. WTF... how can no sleep be good for you?? That was beyond exhausting.

They took so much blood... my arms looked awful. Bruised up, red marks. My arms still hurt bfrom all the needles.

Glad you're back with us, Phennommennonn.


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twice, while i was tranq'd on the pain killers they came in and prepped to give me a flu shot - and i gave the nurse the "dead eye" like the shark in jaws... before i ripped into her. same with the pneum
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dude i just got out of the hosp myself - every few hrs they came in with needles - STOP...wtf you giving me.....
bagged em twice on the flu & pneu shots - told them the only thing auth'd is the damn pain killers, potassium & magnesium. you can stick it in your glory hole all the other BS.

they were even giving me blood thinners....well once...all the others i refused.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


I'm sorry to hear that, I hope you're okay now.

Are you saying they tried to give you vaccines without your approval??

I'm still at a physical therapy facility in Washington (state), not happy about being here but I'm stuck for now. Everything is so far away from everything else here, it's a miracle I was in town the day I had the heart attack. Otherwise I'd be long dead.

They're still giving me blood thinners, they say it's to avoid blood clots, but I'm up walking around a lot, so that seems kind of lame and suspicious.

They let me sleep throught the night now (I think) but while I was in ICU they would wake me up as soon as it looked like I'd fallen asleep. WTF... how can no sleep be good for you?? That was beyond exhausting.

They took so much blood... my arms looked awful. Bruised up, red marks. My arms still hurt bfrom all the needles.

Glad you're back with us, Phennommennonn.


rose
 Quoting: .. 1610510


twice, while i was tranq'd on the pain killers they came in and prepped to give me a flu shot - and i gave the nurse the "dead eye" like the shark in jaws... before i ripped into her. same with the pneum
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Wait a sec..they didn't even ask for your consent BEFORE they started prepping you for the injection??

Wtf.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die.
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Oppie,

Thanks for sharing.

That is QUITE a story!

Thank God you had your wits about you to refuse those vaccines.

They sound like they're in a contest like a car dealership to 100% vaccinate every 'inmate'... oooops... I meant 'patient'....

They must get some pay off for being so over focused on vaccinating.
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THEY SAVED YOUR LIFE AND YOU ACT LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL YOU AND US ALL

whatever
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I appreciate the fact that I'm not dead.

There was no doubt what was going on at the time. They knew my organs had shut down from the hyperthyroid condition. No questions about contagion or mystery diseases, ok?


But when a person is actively on the verge of death with an out-of-control auto-immune condition, cardiac arrest, kidney and liver failure, etc. etc....

...being given flu and pneumonia vaccines in the midst of all that - doesn't fall into the category of "saving a life".

They were waiting for me to die and were still trying to vaccinate me.

Personally, I cannot explain that.



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