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Ranchers, farmers brace for 'death tax' impact

 
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ya know, most of the farmers around here wouldnt let you so much as step foot on their property without shooting you. Thats how greedy these people are. Greedy rich people who think they are entitled to their fathers wealth.
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this is exactly why agenda 21 will succeed. jealousy. people are entitled to their fathers wealth. families are entitled to build futures for their families. muddy over-breeding has caused a tidal wave of jealous sub humans. there will be agenda 21 but what the above thing doesn't realize is there is no place for it. ironic, their prayer for death is their suicide.
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22,000 Acre ranch? And I'm supposed to feel sorry for him that he has to pay taxes like everybody else?

Another rich guy whining for a tax break.
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easy for you to say cause you probably don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out....

it is wrong but you don't get it, ya mental midget.
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poor farmers.

Farmers who dont grow anything, but just deal with cattle making themselves a killing while the average person struggles to buy beef in the store.

Farmers who sit on their land their whole life and never have to get out and get a real job in the real world while their property is used for nothing when they could be growing crops and hiring hundreds of people to harvest those crops by hand.

Poor Farmers who act as if they are more entitled or better than everyone else just because they own huge chunks of land.

Pity of the Farmers.skull_fing
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The death tax is just a land grab by the government.

Even worse I've seen good farms turned in to crappy developments because the farm has to sell off portions to developers just to pay the taxes.
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Corporate farming, on the other hand, is not subject to such taxes as Corporate entities never die.
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That needs fixin...
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ya know, most of the farmers around here wouldnt let you so much as step foot on their property without shooting you. Thats how greedy these people are. Greedy rich people who think they are entitled to their fathers wealth.
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Oh, so you're entitled to it then? Some unknown piece of shit, with no relation at all to these farmers, sitting on his computer in his mommy's basement?

Go fuck yourself.
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for your information, sir bastard, I never said i was entitled to it, I simply said they wouldnt even let you step foot on the property without shooting you. If they had a pond for instance they most likely wouldnt even let you fish in it, or wildflowers growing along their property, they wouldnt let you pick one for your wife. Greedy bastards. and Im actually in my Living room on my computer in my house, so....

Go Fuck yourself buddy

ahole
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sounds like an asshole has reaped what he has sowed...what goes around comes around, ya know?

I wouldn't let your sorry ass near my land either.
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22,000 Acre ranch? And I'm supposed to feel sorry for him that he has to pay taxes like everybody else?

Another rich guy whining for a tax break.
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Rich? What a tool you are and anyone else who think farmers with even that much land is rich.

Sounds like you are a lazy pice of shit who wants what everyone else has worked and sacrificed for.

Bet you couldn't work a 8 hr day let alone a 12+ and get up at 4 in the morning. Whining little bitch you be.
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22,000 Acre ranch? And I'm supposed to feel sorry for him that he has to pay taxes like everybody else?

Another rich guy whining for a tax break.
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easy for you to say cause you probably don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out....

it is wrong but you don't get it, ya mental midget.
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Yep, these little Obama bots want everything someone else has without lifting a finger. A bunch of litle whining bitchs who can't and won't work for anything.
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This is going to make it hard for people to keep their farms without going deep into debt. Farms should be exempt from this nonsense.
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What about ConAgra?
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1) round up and kick out all illegals

2) stop all immigration now

3) cut all public pensions by 20%

4) stop all public sector lifelong medical

5) no public pension until age 62

6) no public employee allowed to make more then the governor of that particular state. (Total BS when so many public employees make more than the VP of the US). If on the public dime and making more, cut immediately. Nothing but crap, we need to pay more to retain the best. Look where the best has taken us....

7)I don't care how many public pension one works for, they should only be allowed one, no combination. One pension from the first retirement. It is sickening to see some receive pensions from, A) military (active), B) Reserves, C) some form of government pension.

I know numerous individual that once they retire from the state government, they will draw 3 pensions (per say). I have nothing against the military (grew up in military family), but sucking the nipple dry because you decided to join, does not entitle you.

Yet most won't retire with one.

8) Stop any and all from driving vehicles home. Are they not paid? The state I live in, all school districts super's get a state vehicle, state gas, insurance.

I could careless that some will say they are entitled, yea so what, I am entitled, I pay taxes and have been for 30 years. I don't receive jack squat.

I also know individual that have been working at the same company for over 25 years, their pension is the 401k. But since they are in no way employed by any level of government, no cushy pension.

Think about this, looking at all forms and levels of government employees, their pay, lifelong medical, pension is (in my opinion) the only thing from causing a total collapse. Since most make livable wages, a fairly good percentage is married to a different government employee.

If this was approached with common sense, not the "ALL or NOTHING" attitude as it is, raising fricking taxes on everything would not be required.

As for taxing the wealthy, what is needed, they pay SS and Med taxes on all income, the vast majority do, they should also.

You make 50k, 75k, 100k, you will pay the SS and Med taxes on all, if one makes 300k, so should they. But since all Sen and Reps make way more than the threshold, this will NEVER happen. Again the "entitled" attitude.
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Some of you people are fucking retarded! Greedy? You want to talk about greed? How about you stop being greedy and wanting other peoples shit! This isn't just about farmers this is about destroying what's left of the middle class. Anyone with a house and a small business worth $1 million dollars, who worked hard for those things will have to have their kids sell the biz. because they can't come up with 55% cash to pay the IRS in nine months.

These so called rich farmers are only land rich they don't have over $500,000 thousand dollars in cash sitting around when they get the bill for a $1 million dollar estate. So they are forced to sell the land within 9 months, if they even can sell it. Yeah that seems real fair. If you maggots actually had what it takes to make it in life you sure as hell would not want to lose half your hard earned money.

This will destroy the last of the small business in America and all that will remain will be corporate giants that pay you slave wages. Have fun working at Walmart and then giving your check right back to them. Then with the little bit you have left you can take the wife and kids to Applebee's for a microwaved chicken dish, because all other family owned restaurants will have been sold or died thanks to this tax.
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its a trick in the system the government basically don't want any of the public to own farms.
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Most farmers and their families around where I live do very well and own hundreds to thousands of acres, yes they work hard but they want for nothing....and most of their land was homesteaded not bought like we have to buy the our small acreage that our home sits on.
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That is why we have trusts which are used by all to avoid paying this.
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I can't believe there are so many posts talking about greedy farmers and that this tax is somehow good...

I guess just because the election is over the shills don't stop. Got to keep pushing that communist agenda until O becomes an official dictator I guess.

And then after that they'd be around for whatever is left to try and keep people "in line".

It's sad, but I think I believe everyone who was saying America is dead already, we just don't know it yet. We're the snake still moving even though our heads cut off.

I mean farmers are the last place to take from. Lets take from the Hollywood stars that make millions for staring in a 90 minute film. Lets take money from the WAY over paid government officials. Let's stop paying millions for professional sports players to be famous and play games. Lets restrict entitlement programs down to what they were meant for - to help disabled people and to help people having a hard time get back on their feet - not support them indefinitely.

Damn, I just hate what half this country has become and I've never wanted 12/21/12 to be true more than in the past year. Whether we all die or we all evolve, either way it'll be good to reset all this crap. The news and politics in particular lately has become so disgusting I seriously have come close to vomiting after hearing some of the news - particularly about the Obama administration's policies.

<insert scream here>

Sorry...about that.
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22,000 Acre ranch? And I'm supposed to feel sorry for him that he has to pay taxes like everybody else?

Another rich guy whining for a tax break.
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Rich? What a tool you are and anyone else who think farmers with even that much land is rich.

Sounds like you are a lazy pice of shit who wants what everyone else has worked and sacrificed for.

Bet you couldn't work a 8 hr day let alone a 12+ and get up at 4 in the morning. Whining little bitch you be.
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Safe bet.
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This is going to make it hard for people to keep their farms without going deep into debt. Farms should be exempt from this nonsense.
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What about ConAgra?
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Thay go up. You'll feel it when you go shopping.
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poor farmers.

Farmers who dont grow anything, but just deal with cattle making themselves a killing while the average person struggles to buy beef in the store.

Farmers who sit on their land their whole life and never have to get out and get a real job in the real world while their property is used for nothing when they could be growing crops and hiring hundreds of people to harvest those crops by hand.

Poor Farmers who act as if they are more entitled or better than everyone else just because they own huge chunks of land.

Pity of the Farmers.skull_fing
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Wow, farmer envy. LOL
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The Death Tax is a communist idea! Realize the money taxed in a death tax has already been taxed many times.
Why can't you extend your well being to your heirs?
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Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.
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Funny thing is that the 2 biggest communist countries have no death or estate tax like this. In addition, this has been going on since Wilson and Rooselvelt.
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Some of you people are fucking retarded! Greedy? You want to talk about greed? How about you stop being greedy and wanting other peoples shit! This isn't just about farmers this is about destroying what's left of the middle class. Anyone with a house and a small business worth $1 million dollars, who worked hard for those things will have to have their kids sell the biz. because they can't come up with 55% cash to pay the IRS in nine months.

These so called rich farmers are only land rich they don't have over $500,000 thousand dollars in cash sitting around when they get the bill for a $1 million dollar estate. So they are forced to sell the land within 9 months, if they even can sell it. Yeah that seems real fair. If you maggots actually had what it takes to make it in life you sure as hell would not want to lose half your hard earned money.

This will destroy the last of the small business in America and all that will remain will be corporate giants that pay you slave wages. Have fun working at Walmart and then giving your check right back to them. Then with the little bit you have left you can take the wife and kids to Applebee's for a microwaved chicken dish, because all other family owned restaurants will have been sold or died thanks to this tax.
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Well, that is part of the plan via Agenda 21 that is full in effect and will wipe our the remaining land and farm owners over the next 5-10 years making it impossible for anyone to be self sustaining thus resulting in a socialist system that has been planned for hundreds of years.

We are seeing capitalism die rite before our very eyes,
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The Death Tax is a communist idea! Realize the money taxed in a death tax has already been taxed many times.
Why can't you extend your well being to your heirs?
 Quoting: PatrikC325


Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.
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Funny thing is that the 2 biggest communist countries have no death or estate tax like this. In addition, this has been going on since Wilson and Rooselvelt.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


That's because the plan isn't communism. If it was, then Obamacare would be part of tax not something you pay to the IRS.
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It is the motive for Agenda 21.

The more people die, the more wealth and control goes to the top of the pyramid.

I am sure the major corporations get around "death" tax. It does not apply to them.

People should stop fooling themselves with the idea that they can "own" land. They can't.

In that perspective the best thing to do is to pay cheap rent, but not fall into the trap and lie of ownership.
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Some of you people are fucking retarded! Greedy? You want to talk about greed? How about you stop being greedy and wanting other peoples shit! This isn't just about farmers this is about destroying what's left of the middle class. Anyone with a house and a small business worth $1 million dollars, who worked hard for those things will have to have their kids sell the biz. because they can't come up with 55% cash to pay the IRS in nine months.

These so called rich farmers are only land rich they don't have over $500,000 thousand dollars in cash sitting around when they get the bill for a $1 million dollar estate. So they are forced to sell the land within 9 months, if they even can sell it. Yeah that seems real fair. If you maggots actually had what it takes to make it in life you sure as hell would not want to lose half your hard earned money.

This will destroy the last of the small business in America and all that will remain will be corporate giants that pay you slave wages. Have fun working at Walmart and then giving your check right back to them. Then with the little bit you have left you can take the wife and kids to Applebee's for a microwaved chicken dish, because all other family owned restaurants will have been sold or died thanks to this tax.
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Well, that is part of the plan via Agenda 21 that is full in effect and will wipe our the remaining land and farm owners over the next 5-10 years making it impossible for anyone to be self sustaining thus resulting in a socialist system that has been planned for hundreds of years.

We are seeing capitalism die rite before our very eyes,
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Yes, they've looted and they aren't finished yet. Farmers aren't going to be spared, either. They are taking from everyone, it should be apparent by now that "no one" is spared. They'll get to those who think they are so useful who make a descent living and think they are above all this too at a later date. No-one will be spared from the theft. They came for the little people first, oh, yes they did. Then they came for the workers, the rich will be last--right now they need them to place blame on the victims.
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Agenda 21 continues....well played liberals....
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The Death Tax is a communist idea! Realize the money taxed in a death tax has already been taxed many times.
Why can't you extend your well being to your heirs?
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Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.
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Funny thing is that the 2 biggest communist countries have no death or estate tax like this. In addition, this has been going on since Wilson and Rooselvelt.
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That's because they never own the land to begin with. Just lease it from the government....
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poor farmers.

Farmers who dont grow anything, but just deal with cattle making themselves a killing while the average person struggles to buy beef in the store.

Farmers who sit on their land their whole life and never have to get out and get a real job in the real world while their property is used for nothing when they could be growing crops and hiring hundreds of people to harvest those crops by hand.

Poor Farmers who act as if they are more entitled or better than everyone else just because they own huge chunks of land.

Pity of the Farmers.skull_fing
 Quoting: NewsUpdater


You should move to Zimbabwe or any other African country that tried to redistribute private farmers' lands to retards like you who think they could just start farming where the "poor farmer" left off. Your jealousy would quickly become overrun by the pain of starvation, you stupid twat.
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WHERE is the EMPATHY for the 'poor' government/CORPORATION workers, local, state and FEDERAL, who do nothing BUT think up NEW Law, rules, regulations, statutes for fines, fees and taxes ? WE ONLY have 17,000,000 of them now, BUT, there MUST be something they overlooked, besides INCREASING the fines/fees/taxes !

Have pity on them when they retire to FAT monthly paychecks. Some can HARDLY afford to upgrade their yachts and pay for their children's tuition at Yale and Harvard !

You have NO IDEA !
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Elections have consequences.
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poor farmers.

Farmers who dont grow anything, but just deal with cattle making themselves a killing while the average person struggles to buy beef in the store.

Farmers who sit on their land their whole life and never have to get out and get a real job in the real world while their property is used for nothing when they could be growing crops and hiring hundreds of people to harvest those crops by hand.

Poor Farmers who act as if they are more entitled or better than everyone else just because they own huge chunks of land.

Pity of the Farmers.skull_fing
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What an imbicile. iamwith I DARE you to go work on a farm and ranch. I work Monday-Saturday, 10 hours per day to keep this place going. On Sunday, I still have to feed the calves that are in the feedlot. When it snows, we have to put hay out for the cows. Making a killing??? Do you realize how much it costs to feed animals? About $400 PER HEAD for ONE WINTER. If a cow stops breeding and is 'culled', guess what she brings at market? (Hamburger) $850. You know what a 3 year old bred replacement cow costs? $1850

How the F can you possibly say 'making a killing'? The beef market is a direct result of the policies that this country has elected. If you want cheaper beef, try voting for cheaper diesel, or fewer EPA restrictions.

"Farmers who sit on their land their whole life".... WTF MAN!!! What else do you expect???? You ever tried raising a garden? You ever take a 3 day vacation to go camping or to a family reunion and come back to find you garden infested with pests? The same can happen on a farm. We are married to the land.

I think it might be wise of you to stop and think about the repercussions of your thought process. If you think your produce is expensive now, try imagining what it would cost when you have to increase the price to pay for your concept of "growing crops and hiring hundreds of people to harvest those crops by hand." Are you 12??? Do you not understand???

There is no more farmland. Land is not being developed at the same rate that people of your caliber are breeding. We cannot continue to feed the growing population without witnessing a price increase. IT's supply and demand.

Man...I don't even want to continue this convo. You have me heated. Please, PLEASE do a bit more research before you start waving a skeletal middle finger at those that provide the food that you require to live. THink about it. rockon
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You are dealing with fucking morons my friend who know nothing about farming and ranching.......... wasting your breath and raising your blood pressure for nothing as they will not change. In fact many of them on here are doing this just to raise your blood pressure because they are in fact people who get off on that sort of thing.

Even people I grew up with think we just sit around on the porch watching the grass grow and counting our dollars. None of them would put the days in that I do. None of them know the cost of operation. I learned long ago to tell them all to piss off and not bother me............. cause they all wanted to buy cheap beef off of me or hunt on my land, while telling me how good I have it........... as I drive along in my 1997 Ford pickup and wonder how in hell I am going to manage to replace my old tractor that is on its last legs.

Take it easy my friend and avoid this stuff. I mostly do as I get enough stress just trying to keep things going without dealing with brain dead urbanites. They think they know everything and how all farmers/ranchers live by reading about the government handouts for farms that are paid not to grow soya and corn............. and think it is like that for everyone across the board.
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