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Police Officer Shoots Escaping Man: Raw Dash Cam (Unnecessary!!) VIDEO

 
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I can agree with that, but if he gets away, is he not a threat to others that might bump into him unarmed?
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Or he could do a home invasion, try to steal a car. He's on foot and desperate.
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Yeah, he could also go home and sleep that shit off.

If he does a home invasion, then it is up to the citizens of the home to stop him. Same goes with the stealing a car scenario.
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The problem here is that the officers are armed. If a suspect fights them and attempts to incapacitate by knocking one of them out then the perp gets an officers gun...others are then in danger.

Bottom line: it's justified.
 Quoting: Chip


Bottom line: it's not justified.
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The perp was out of the view of the camera when he was shot. How do you know he wasn't on his way back into the fight, or picked up a rock?

You don't know. Now STFU!
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The problem here is that the officers are armed. If a suspect fights them and attempts to incapacitate by knocking one of them out then the perp gets an officers gun...others are then in danger.

Bottom line: it's justified.
 Quoting: Chip


Bottom line: it's not justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


The perp was out of the view of the camera when he was shot. How do you know he wasn't on his way back into the fight, or picked up a rock?

You don't know. Now STFU!
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You don't know either, do you?
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Also, look up disparity of force.

The fact that both officers out weighed the suspect and nothing indicated he was armed and they were (and presumably trained in arrest tactics) the suspect was clearly on the defensive.

The Cop shooting him was wrong and the female officer should have been charged and let a real jury hash it out.

Cops are supposedly held to a higher standard, in this case, and with just the video, she got away with murder, she knows it, no matter what anyone else said, it will come back on her. That is a law nobody gets to escape because of their job.
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The problem here is that the officers are armed. If a suspect fights them and attempts to incapacitate by knocking one of them out then the perp gets an officers gun...others are then in danger.

Bottom line: it's justified.
 Quoting: Chip


Bottom line: it's not justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


The perp was out of the view of the camera when he was shot. How do you know he wasn't on his way back into the fight, or picked up a rock?

You don't know. Now STFU!
 Quoting: Chip


You don't know either, do you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20901334


He was striking police officers. Who in their right mind does that? I'll tell you who does that...a crazy motherfucker that would grab the first weapon he sees. That's who.
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The problem here is that the officers are armed. If a suspect fights them and attempts to incapacitate by knocking one of them out then the perp gets an officers gun...others are then in danger.

Bottom line: it's justified.
 Quoting: Chip


Bottom line: it's not justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


The perp was out of the view of the camera when he was shot. How do you know he wasn't on his way back into the fight, or picked up a rock?

You don't know. Now STFU!
 Quoting: Chip


Chip, no officers were knocked out.

Guy is running away.

Again, if the guy was shot while thumping on them, I can see the use of deadly force for the scenario you speak of.

If the guy has a rock or other item that can render an officer unconscious or kill an officer, then yes, by all means justifiable to shoot him.

Not trying to be a dick or anything.

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The problem here is that the officers are armed. If a suspect fights them and attempts to incapacitate by knocking one of them out then the perp gets an officers gun...others are then in danger.

Bottom line: it's justified.
 Quoting: Chip


Bottom line: it's not justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


The perp was out of the view of the camera when he was shot. How do you know he wasn't on his way back into the fight, or picked up a rock?

You don't know. Now STFU!
 Quoting: Chip


Chip, no officers were knocked out.

Guy is running away.

Again, if the guy was shot while thumping on them, I can see the use of deadly force for the scenario you speak of.

If the guy has a rock or other item that can render an officer unconscious or kill an officer, then yes, by all means justifiable to shoot him.

Not trying to be a dick or anything.

Peace...
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Watched the video again. There is absolutely no way this guy picked anything up.
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The problem here is that the officers are armed. If a suspect fights them and attempts to incapacitate by knocking one of them out then the perp gets an officers gun...others are then in danger.

Bottom line: it's justified.
 Quoting: Chip


I would agree.
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Unfortunately you can not discriminate against people anymore when hiring them if they pass the police psychical and training camp.

Chances are she was a bit younger and thinner when she first applied to become an office, but they do tend to give a bit of lee way with women cops because of their lesser upper body strength they can use their weight.

But.... IMO, she is now too heavy for the job for her own good, too many donuts and sitting ridging the patrol instead of walking or biking a beat will cause her to falter and get shot or deadly beaten one day.

What's more a huge shame though is all the overweight officers with failing health use your tax dollars to pay for their health insurance.
Thinner cops are healthier cops.

Now, about the perp.
Too dumb to know not to resist arrest and he came back at them, the moment he lunged back at them, they had the legal right to shoot the man in self defense.
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two fat ass fucking pig cops, had a man on the ground that was surrendering, The cops had no decancy or honor , and as usual Said something to the surrendering man to escalate the situation.

Cops try to escalate the situation it is taught in the academy.
They go out looking to hurt people and write tickets.

YOU can bet they don't fight like that against the drug cartels taking over the south west, or the immigrants taking over city's in the south.

They only target and harass complying victims im not sure who is to blame, the lawmakers that pass these dumb ass laws, or the cops they train to implement the agenda.
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Bottom line: it's not justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


The perp was out of the view of the camera when he was shot. How do you know he wasn't on his way back into the fight, or picked up a rock?

You don't know. Now STFU!
 Quoting: Chip


Chip, no officers were knocked out.

Guy is running away.

Again, if the guy was shot while thumping on them, I can see the use of deadly force for the scenario you speak of.

If the guy has a rock or other item that can render an officer unconscious or kill an officer, then yes, by all means justifiable to shoot him.

Not trying to be a dick or anything.

Peace...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25658088


Watched the video again. There is absolutely no way this guy picked anything up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25658088


Also, those saying the officer murdered him. You are wrong. Murder would imply she intended on killing him with malice, or lying in wait. This would be manslaughter, and NOT murder.
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The problem here is that the officers are armed. If a suspect fights them and attempts to incapacitate by knocking one of them out then the perp gets an officers gun...others are then in danger.

Bottom line: it's justified.
 Quoting: Chip


Bottom line: it's not justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


The perp was out of the view of the camera when he was shot. How do you know he wasn't on his way back into the fight, or picked up a rock?

You don't know. Now STFU!
 Quoting: Chip


^^^^ THIS ^^^^

And so many points posted before this.

YOU have no idea what it's like to be in a "fight for your life".

Yes. I watched the video. NO, there doesn't appear to be "Just cause" shown in the video, TO A LAYMAN.

But the truth is, as many of you comment on the officer's "ASS" or the apparent shape she is in, that THIS is the reality of Law Enforcement today. YOU VOTED IT IN! No body wants to tell the woman, the man, the PERSON that tey are too fat, too old, to skinny, too weak.... They simply want to "even the playing field" for those that are not as in-shape, those who are not as fortunate.

In response, WE in Law Enforcement ascribe to the theory "WE NEVER LOSE". If you are in a fight, it is MOST LIKELY a Fight for your life....

This KNUCKLEHEAD not only tried to get away from the officers, he came back to throw a few licks. AND, after that came back for a few more.

Who knows what was happening off camera. All the officer knew is that SHE was outmatched. And, if the perp came back, maybe he'd take her gun and kill her as well as her partner.

She did exactly as she was instructed in her training... MY TRAINING.

Do a little research into:

Tennessee V. Garner
Graham V.Connor

Last Edited by Travis Bickle on 11/18/2012 01:58 AM
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Holy shit that is a fat ass.



WTF is she doing on the police force? She's too fucking fat.

And why did she shoot that guy? She fucking murdered an unarmed man.
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bump for TRUTH. Why do Americans ALLOW this?
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two fat ass fucking pig cops, had a man on the ground that was surrendering, The cops had no decancy or honor , and as usual Said something to the surrendering man to escalate the situation.

Cops try to escalate the situation it is taught in the academy.
They go out looking to hurt people and write tickets.

YOU can bet they don't fight like that against the drug cartels taking over the south west, or the immigrants taking over city's in the south.

They only target and harass complying victims im not sure who is to blame, the lawmakers that pass these dumb ass laws, or the cops they train to implement the agenda.
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Cops are NOT taught to escalate the situation in the academy.

As far as too many stupid laws. I could NOT agree with you more.
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I can agree with that, but if he gets away, is he not a threat to others that might bump into him unarmed?
 Quoting: Borian


Or he could do a home invasion, try to steal a car. He's on foot and desperate.
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


Yeah, he could also go home and sleep that shit off.

If he does a home invasion, then it is up to the citizens of the home to stop him. Same goes with the stealing a car scenario.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25658088


This.

Stop playing God and acting like you are saving lives by gunning down a fleeing unarmed man.

I would go into detail. But I'm quite sleepy.



FUCK THE POLICE

HAMSLUT CHILD STEALING INDECENT POWER HUNGRY WHORE SHE PROLLY CAME HER PANTS WHEN THE HAMMER STRUCK THE BULLET
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The problem here is that the officers are armed. If a suspect fights them and attempts to incapacitate by knocking one of them out then the perp gets an officers gun...others are then in danger.

Bottom line: it's justified.
 Quoting: Chip


Bottom line: it's not justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


The perp was out of the view of the camera when he was shot. How do you know he wasn't on his way back into the fight, or picked up a rock?

You don't know. Now STFU!
 Quoting: Chip


^^^^ THIS ^^^^

And so many points posted before this.

YOU have no idea what it's like to be in a "fight for your life".

Yes. I watched the video. NO, there doesn't appear to be "Just cause" shown in the video, TO A LAYMAN.

But the truth is, as many of you comment on the officer's "ASS" or the apparent shape she is in, that THIS is the reality of Law Enforcement today. YOU VOTED IT IN! No body wants to tell the woman, the man, the PERSON that tey are too fat, too old, to skinny, too weak.... They simply want to "even the playing field" for those that are not as in-shape, those who are not as fortunate.

In response, WE in Law Enforcement ascribe to the theory "WE NEVER LOSE". If you are in a fight, it is MOST LIKELY a Fight for your life....

This KNUCKLEHEAD not only tried to get away from the officers, he came back to throw a few licks. AND, after that came back for a few more.

Who knows what was happening off camera. All the officer knew is that SHE was outmatched. And, if the perp came back, maybe he'd take her gun and kill her as well as her partner.

She did exactly as she was instructed in her training... MY TRAINING.
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


Maybe we are watching two different videos. The man fleeing had no time to pick anything up, etc.

Manslaughter at best.

I understand, the concept, of fight for your life, and making sure you come home, etc., but the use of force the female officer used was NOT justified.
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Unfortunately you can not discriminate against people anymore when hiring them if they pass the police psychical and training camp.

Chances are she was a bit younger and thinner when she first applied to become an office, but they do tend to give a bit of lee way with women cops because of their lesser upper body strength they can use their weight.

But.... IMO, she is now too heavy for the job for her own good, too many donuts and sitting ridging the patrol instead of walking or biking a beat will cause her to falter and get shot or deadly beaten one day.

What's more a huge shame though is all the overweight officers with failing health use your tax dollars to pay for their health insurance.
Thinner cops are healthier cops.

Now, about the perp.
Too dumb to know not to resist arrest and he came back at them, the moment he lunged back at them, they had the legal right to shoot the man in self defense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9231012


Seriously, he was shot, but NOT while lunging at them?

If he was shot, while lunging at them, I would agree.
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how come these ass tarts don't have to pass the APFT and weight/tape program every six months or get docked in pay ?
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One more thing. If you watch the video.

The female officer escalates to deadly force first.

The male officer then draws his handgun, but then goes to a less lethal taser.

I was trained to use the force necessary, and deescalate as well.

Time for bed.

Good night.
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Bottom line: it's not justified.
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The perp was out of the view of the camera when he was shot. How do you know he wasn't on his way back into the fight, or picked up a rock?

You don't know. Now STFU!
 Quoting: Chip


^^^^ THIS ^^^^

And so many points posted before this.

YOU have no idea what it's like to be in a "fight for your life".

Yes. I watched the video. NO, there doesn't appear to be "Just cause" shown in the video, TO A LAYMAN.

But the truth is, as many of you comment on the officer's "ASS" or the apparent shape she is in, that THIS is the reality of Law Enforcement today. YOU VOTED IT IN! No body wants to tell the woman, the man, the PERSON that tey are too fat, too old, to skinny, too weak.... They simply want to "even the playing field" for those that are not as in-shape, those who are not as fortunate.

In response, WE in Law Enforcement ascribe to the theory "WE NEVER LOSE". If you are in a fight, it is MOST LIKELY a Fight for your life....

This KNUCKLEHEAD not only tried to get away from the officers, he came back to throw a few licks. AND, after that came back for a few more.

Who knows what was happening off camera. All the officer knew is that SHE was outmatched. And, if the perp came back, maybe he'd take her gun and kill her as well as her partner.

She did exactly as she was instructed in her training... MY TRAINING.
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


Maybe we are watching two different videos. The man fleeing had no time to pick anything up, etc.

Manslaughter at best.

I understand, the concept, of fight for your life, and making sure you come home, etc., but the use of force the female officer used was NOT justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25658088


No, (Respectfully...) I watched the same video as you.

Do you KNOW he did not retrieve a weapon of some kind? I certainly don't.

In reality, it doesn't matter. The truth of this situation can be seen in the first few minutes of the video.

The "COVER" officer that the dash-cam is recorded from tries to control the suspect, however, the suspect escapse and throws a few blows at him. Even HE is outmatched... Through lack of training, fitness levels, or even his mindset. HE IS OUTMATCHED.

Now... The "Fat ASSED" Female that gets the shot off is probably thinking that the Cover Officer is going to save her in some way. But that doesn't happen. So, When the suspect escapes, (Whether or not he grabs an offensive weapon) She is faced with the reality that this guy can do her (or her partner) harm!
One of these days... A *REAL* rain is gonna come and wash all this scum off the streets.
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Following freeing himself, if he hadn't attacked the officers and fled, I'd say that fatty lands in jail. However, since he actually made the decision to attack the officers, and COULD HAVE been lunging forth once more, the shooting was justified.

One thing though, after he voluntarily hits the deck to be cuffed, it appears that the officer who was attempting to cuff him was hurting the guy as is evident by his foot movements. With no sound, it is hard to tell. That could be what instigated it.

Hurt or no hurt, that guy asked for it.
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1. fat fuck obese pig cop
2. hamfat pig bitch slut cop

get beat up by a skinny guy, who probably doesn't "work out" or "train", just doesn't eat all the fucking time and sit on ass like those two

so they shoot him.

In civilized countries police can subdue a pissed off 5'10 170lb male, without violent force.

not here nope, their safety trumps your freedom. welcome to the fourth libtarded reich
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Couldn't have said it better.


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The perp was out of the view of the camera when he was shot. How do you know he wasn't on his way back into the fight, or picked up a rock?

You don't know. Now STFU!
 Quoting: Chip


^^^^ THIS ^^^^

And so many points posted before this.

YOU have no idea what it's like to be in a "fight for your life".

Yes. I watched the video. NO, there doesn't appear to be "Just cause" shown in the video, TO A LAYMAN.

But the truth is, as many of you comment on the officer's "ASS" or the apparent shape she is in, that THIS is the reality of Law Enforcement today. YOU VOTED IT IN! No body wants to tell the woman, the man, the PERSON that tey are too fat, too old, to skinny, too weak.... They simply want to "even the playing field" for those that are not as in-shape, those who are not as fortunate.

In response, WE in Law Enforcement ascribe to the theory "WE NEVER LOSE". If you are in a fight, it is MOST LIKELY a Fight for your life....

This KNUCKLEHEAD not only tried to get away from the officers, he came back to throw a few licks. AND, after that came back for a few more.

Who knows what was happening off camera. All the officer knew is that SHE was outmatched. And, if the perp came back, maybe he'd take her gun and kill her as well as her partner.

She did exactly as she was instructed in her training... MY TRAINING.
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


Maybe we are watching two different videos. The man fleeing had no time to pick anything up, etc.

Manslaughter at best.

I understand, the concept, of fight for your life, and making sure you come home, etc., but the use of force the female officer used was NOT justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25658088


No, (Respectfully...) I watched the same video as you.

Do you KNOW he did not retrieve a weapon of some kind? I certainly don't.

In reality, it doesn't matter. The truth of this situation can be seen in the first few minutes of the video.

The "COVER" officer that the dash-cam is recorded from tries to control the suspect, however, the suspect escapse and throws a few blows at him. Even HE is outmatched... Through lack of training, fitness levels, or even his mindset. HE IS OUTMATCHED.

Now... The "Fat ASSED" Female that gets the shot off is probably thinking that the Cover Officer is going to save her in some way. But that doesn't happen. So, When the suspect escapes, (Whether or not he grabs an offensive weapon) She is faced with the reality that this guy can do her (or her partner) harm!
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


The thought crossed my mind, in regards to the possibility of the perp retrieving a weapon from his person, but I can't see that happening in the time frame, from the time he gets out of camera range and the shot is fired.

Regardless, my friend stay safe. I know you walk a fine line, and most people do NOT understand.
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^^^^ THIS ^^^^

And so many points posted before this.

YOU have no idea what it's like to be in a "fight for your life".

Yes. I watched the video. NO, there doesn't appear to be "Just cause" shown in the video, TO A LAYMAN.

But the truth is, as many of you comment on the officer's "ASS" or the apparent shape she is in, that THIS is the reality of Law Enforcement today. YOU VOTED IT IN! No body wants to tell the woman, the man, the PERSON that tey are too fat, too old, to skinny, too weak.... They simply want to "even the playing field" for those that are not as in-shape, those who are not as fortunate.

In response, WE in Law Enforcement ascribe to the theory "WE NEVER LOSE". If you are in a fight, it is MOST LIKELY a Fight for your life....

This KNUCKLEHEAD not only tried to get away from the officers, he came back to throw a few licks. AND, after that came back for a few more.

Who knows what was happening off camera. All the officer knew is that SHE was outmatched. And, if the perp came back, maybe he'd take her gun and kill her as well as her partner.

She did exactly as she was instructed in her training... MY TRAINING.
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


Maybe we are watching two different videos. The man fleeing had no time to pick anything up, etc.

Manslaughter at best.

I understand, the concept, of fight for your life, and making sure you come home, etc., but the use of force the female officer used was NOT justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25658088


No, (Respectfully...) I watched the same video as you.

Do you KNOW he did not retrieve a weapon of some kind? I certainly don't.

In reality, it doesn't matter. The truth of this situation can be seen in the first few minutes of the video.

The "COVER" officer that the dash-cam is recorded from tries to control the suspect, however, the suspect escapse and throws a few blows at him. Even HE is outmatched... Through lack of training, fitness levels, or even his mindset. HE IS OUTMATCHED.

Now... The "Fat ASSED" Female that gets the shot off is probably thinking that the Cover Officer is going to save her in some way. But that doesn't happen. So, When the suspect escapes, (Whether or not he grabs an offensive weapon) She is faced with the reality that this guy can do her (or her partner) harm!
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


The thought crossed my mind, in regards to the possibility of the perp retrieving a weapon from his person, but I can't see that happening in the time frame, from the time he gets out of camera range and the shot is fired.

Regardless, my friend stay safe. I know you walk a fine line, and most people do NOT understand.
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THANK YOU... I realize that there are some STUPID FUCKS out there that do some dumb things,for various reasons. and make ALL Cops look bad. But what MOST people don't realize is that the rest of us make decisions in fractions of a second which are examined, cross checked and questioned in the weeks that follow.

It comes down to what the officer was thinking at the time when determining the outcome of these cases.

I appreciate your insight into the matter. I know it doesn't seem right for this guy to have been shot... Perhaps if other officers were invovled, the outcome would have been different. But one has to look at the totality of the circumstances.

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One of these days... A *REAL* rain is gonna come and wash all this scum off the streets.
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Maybe we are watching two different videos. The man fleeing had no time to pick anything up, etc.

Manslaughter at best.

I understand, the concept, of fight for your life, and making sure you come home, etc., but the use of force the female officer used was NOT justified.
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No, (Respectfully...) I watched the same video as you.

Do you KNOW he did not retrieve a weapon of some kind? I certainly don't.

In reality, it doesn't matter. The truth of this situation can be seen in the first few minutes of the video.

The "COVER" officer that the dash-cam is recorded from tries to control the suspect, however, the suspect escapse and throws a few blows at him. Even HE is outmatched... Through lack of training, fitness levels, or even his mindset. HE IS OUTMATCHED.

Now... The "Fat ASSED" Female that gets the shot off is probably thinking that the Cover Officer is going to save her in some way. But that doesn't happen. So, When the suspect escapes, (Whether or not he grabs an offensive weapon) She is faced with the reality that this guy can do her (or her partner) harm!
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The thought crossed my mind, in regards to the possibility of the perp retrieving a weapon from his person, but I can't see that happening in the time frame, from the time he gets out of camera range and the shot is fired.

Regardless, my friend stay safe. I know you walk a fine line, and most people do NOT understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25658088

THANK YOU... I realize that there are some STUPID FUCKS out there that do some dumb things,for various reasons. and make ALL Cops look bad. But what MOST people don't realize is that the rest of us make decisions in fractions of a second which are examined, cross checked and questioned in the weeks that follow.

It comes down to what the officer was thinking at the time when determining the outcome of these cases.

I appreciate your insight into the matter. I know it doesn't seem right for this guy to have been shot... Perhaps if other officers were invovled, the outcome would have been different. But one has to look at the totality of the circumstances.
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Totality of the cirumstances being what ? Cops can shoot people in cold blood and get away with it ?
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The problem here is that the officers are armed. If a suspect fights them and attempts to incapacitate by knocking one of them out then the perp gets an officers gun...others are then in danger.

Bottom line: it's justified.
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Bottom line: it's not justified.
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The perp was out of the view of the camera when he was shot. How do you know he wasn't on his way back into the fight, or picked up a rock?

You don't know. Now STFU!
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You're an idiot fascist. He was unarmed. The two pigs outweighed him by 5x to 6x.
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title should read: Fatasss cop shoots innocent man who wanted to go home.
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The problem here is that the officers are armed. If a suspect fights them and attempts to incapacitate by knocking one of them out then the perp gets an officers gun...others are then in danger.

Bottom line: it's justified.
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Bottom line: it's not justified.
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The perp was out of the view of the camera when he was shot. How do you know he wasn't on his way back into the fight, or picked up a rock?

You don't know. Now STFU!
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You're an idiot fascist. He was unarmed. The two pigs outweighed him by 5x to 6x.
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People like Chips are prime candidates for obama's brown shirts. These two fat asses were not fighting for their lives. They were in no danger. The skinny guy was simply trying to run away after getting in a few weak punches. Chips is a disgrace as a human being.
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All of you need to work for th ACLU. Sure she was fat. But the dead guy was the one who escalated the situation. You cannot argue that. Then he tried to run and get into the police car.
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