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Cop = Shitbrick
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Oh! but I bet you would call them if you needed them, god damn hypocrites, the whole lot of ya.
 Quoting: Captaininyourface 27939134


Wow...what an assumption.

Well, I can tell you FOR SURE, that I don't call them unless there's a TRUE NEED. This is coming from a guy who has been stabbed and shot at. After being stabbed...I went to the hospital. Didn't call them. After being shot at...went home.

So...not everyone is as spineless as yourself. wink
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Out weighed him 5 or 6 times? Are you dumb or just not good at math? The dead guy prob weighed anywhere from 135-160. Lets say he weighed 140. 5 times his weight would be 700lbs. Those 2 cops do not weigh 700lbs. The woman, 180-200. The man maybe around 230-250. The dead guy was out in the middle of the road, yelling at cars as they drove by, high as fuck. He seemed calm until the man showed up. Then he probably thought it would be okay to fight. Don't blame the cops for provoking him for being too rough when cuffing him. If you think they're too rough, stfu and go quietly and have your lawyer look into it. Don't fight back, that is never going to end well. Everyone says he was running away. He wasn't. He was running to get into the patrol car and drive away.

I will say shooting him was unnecessary. That's what tasers are for.
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Dash Cam footage of a Women Police Officer shooting a man trying to escape. By no means do I give credit to the man, for trying to escape. But was this shot really necessary? You
decide..
 Quoting: xBehindthetruthx


Don't know whether it was warranted.

But I do know this...those pigs are literally pigs. They need to lose some damn weight. Between the both of them, we're looking at 800 pounds of not being able to run, fight, think, or help in a serious situation.

See how tired they were after that miniature scuffle???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1129812


You really think the 2 of them weigh 800lbs together? Come on man. 450 together would be accurate. Besides, the dead guy was tweaked ou of his mind.
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Dash Cam footage of a Women Police Officer shooting a man trying to escape. By no means do I give credit to the man, for trying to escape. But was this shot really necessary? You
decide..
 Quoting: xBehindthetruthx


Don't know whether it was warranted.

But I do know this...those pigs are literally pigs. They need to lose some damn weight. Between the both of them, we're looking at 800 pounds of not being able to run, fight, think, or help in a serious situation.

See how tired they were after that miniature scuffle???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1129812


You really think the 2 of them weigh 800lbs together? Come on man. 450 together would be accurate. Besides, the dead guy was tweaked ou of his mind.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


Let's see; the fat male is about 270. The fat female is 290. That makes 560. The victim was about 140. So the two hogs, together, outweighed the victim 4:1.
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No. Not even close. He's around 250 and she's anywhere from 180-200.
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Out weighed him 5 or 6 times? Are you dumb or just not good at math? The dead guy prob weighed anywhere from 135-160. Lets say he weighed 140. 5 times his weight would be 700lbs. Those 2 cops do not weigh 700lbs. The woman, 180-200. The man maybe around 230-250. The dead guy was out in the middle of the road, yelling at cars as they drove by, high as fuck. He seemed calm until the man showed up. Then he probably thought it would be okay to fight. Don't blame the cops for provoking him for being too rough when cuffing him. If you think they're too rough, stfu and go quietly and have your lawyer look into it. Don't fight back, that is never going to end well. Everyone says he was running away. He wasn't. He was running to get into the patrol car and drive away.

I will say shooting him was unnecessary. That's what tasers are for.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


"The woman, 180-200." lmao

Her ass alone weighs 200.
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Fucking children.
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Fucking children.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


You really think that fat sow only weighs 180? People who weigh 180 are much, much smaller than her. She's tall to begin with. She has the butt and legs of a fat NFL linebacker. She's at least 290.
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Fucking children.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


You really think that fat sow only weighs 180? People who weigh 180 are much, much smaller than her. She's tall to begin with. She has the butt and legs of a fat NFL linebacker. She's at least 290.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


Let's say this; if she came to my house, I would not want her sitting on my furniture. She would break it.
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Fucking children.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


You really think that fat sow only weighs 180? People who weigh 180 are much, much smaller than her. She's tall to begin with. She has the butt and legs of a fat NFL linebacker. She's at least 290.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


I don't think you know what you're talking about. She's not over 200, guarantee. Ya, she's got thick thighs and a big ass but she's no taller than 5 10. 290? Dude, a 290 lb woman is fucking huge. Have you ever seen a fat NFL linebacker? Those guys aren't fat, they are huge, muscle bound bulls with bigger chest than guys and bigger arms than your head.
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Another point about the fat male. Let's say he weighs 270. A man who is a solid 270 would be difficult to contend with. The punches from the 140 pounder should have just bounced off of him with no effect.

But let's say the 270 pounder is in reality, a 140 pounder trapped under 130 pounds of excess blubber. The trapped 140 pounder can barely carry the excess 130 pounds. That's why he can't walk straight. He probably falls down a lot. The punches from the other 140 pounder, the one without the 130 pounds of excess blubber, took a toll.
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Not to mention cops wear vests that make their upper body seem bigger. No word yet on whether her ass is vested up.
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Fucking children.
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You really think that fat sow only weighs 180? People who weigh 180 are much, much smaller than her. She's tall to begin with. She has the butt and legs of a fat NFL linebacker. She's at least 290.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


I don't think you know what you're talking about. She's not over 200, guarantee. Ya, she's got thick thighs and a big ass but she's no taller than 5 10. 290? Dude, a 290 lb woman is fucking huge. Have you ever seen a fat NFL linebacker? Those guys aren't fat, they are huge, muscle bound bulls with bigger chest than guys and bigger arms than your head.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


If she's 5' 10", and with her frame, she would have to be much thinner to weigh 180. At 180, a big boned female such as her would actually be fairly thin. With her huge ass and legs, though, she's closer to 290.
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Another point about the fat male. Let's say he weighs 270. A man who is a solid 270 would be difficult to contend with. The punches from the 140 pounder should have just bounced off of him with no effect.

But let's say the 270 pounder is in reality, a 140 pounder trapped under 130 pounds of excess blubber. The trapped 140 pounder can barely carry the excess 130 pounds. That's why he can't walk straight. He probably falls down a lot. The punches from the other 140 pounder, the one without the 130 pounds of excess blubber, took a toll.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


Good point. But the cop got up didn't he? The dead guy my have been skinny. But don't forget to factor in he was methed up and full of adrenaline and rage.
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Good thing he's dead, he doesn't know how to act in a civilized society...
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Fucking children.
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You really think that fat sow only weighs 180? People who weigh 180 are much, much smaller than her. She's tall to begin with. She has the butt and legs of a fat NFL linebacker. She's at least 290.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


I don't think you know what you're talking about. She's not over 200, guarantee. Ya, she's got thick thighs and a big ass but she's no taller than 5 10. 290? Dude, a 290 lb woman is fucking huge. Have you ever seen a fat NFL linebacker? Those guys aren't fat, they are huge, muscle bound bulls with bigger chest than guys and bigger arms than your head.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


If she's 5' 10", and with her frame, she would have to be much thinner to weigh 180. At 180, a big boned female such as her would actually be fairly thin. With her huge ass and legs, though, she's closer to 290.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


No way dude. Pause the video at the end where she is right infront of the car and you can see he face. Look at her stomach. She doesn't have a gut. Even with the best her upper body doesn't look that fat. . Just a big ass and big thighs. I don't think you realize how woman's bodies are built. To to Walmart and you will see some genuine 250, 300 club ladies. The cop isn't one of them. Sorry. Trust me. I've fucked a few fat chicks in my day built like this female cop.
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Why does everyone care that they aren't anorexic sticks? Bottom line is you don't fight with or run from the police...you take your case before a judge in a civilized society...
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Why does everyone care that they aren't anorexic sticks? Bottom line is you don't fight with or run from the police...you take your case before a judge in a civilized society...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Exactly. The last 4 pages have turned into weight bashing. No one wants to admit that the dead guy started fighting first then tried to flee and get into the cop car.
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Why does everyone care that they aren't anorexic sticks? Bottom line is you don't fight with or run from the police...you take your case before a judge in a civilized society...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Exactly. The last 4 pages have turned into weight bashing. No one wants to admit that the dead guy started fighting first then tried to flee and get into the cop car.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


Vegetarianism doesn't provide the needed fats and protein that the brain and body needs, so they end up not being able to think properly and vote for Obama...on top of it they are likely to do drugs because their system craves proper nutrients and since they refuse to eat meat they turn to other chemicals...those are the people calling the cops fat and say they were wrong to shoot the crack head that punched them and ran...
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It comes down to what the officer was thinking at the time when determining the outcome of these cases....
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


I'm not trying to argue that the individual was innocent in any way. This is one where I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the cops. But this part of your statement troubles me greatly.
Wouldn't it be more correct to say, "what the officer claimed they were thinking or feeling at the time". I mean, the "coming right for us" mentality is easy to claim after the fact, especially in this case where the individual was off screen. It could have been equally likely in this case, all possible results considered that the individual could have a) picked up a rock, stick or other more harmful weapon and was advancing, b) continued to run off, not changing direction and just continue running, c) tried jumping into the cop car to foment mass mayhem, d) stopped and turned around with their hands up, or any other possible action. "D" might be not as likely, depending on the circumstances, but if the perp was 21, and just wanted for disorderly conduct, as another poster mentioned, it is feasible that the situation just got out of hand too quickly.
My main gripe is that all we are going off of in this instance is that the officer is "claiming" that she felt threatened. There is no video to prove that this statement is true. This seems to be a frequent thing in these shootings, where there is less than 100% evidence.
Again, the officer probably was in the right, but is there any true accountability for veracity in most of these cases?
Yeah, you are not gonna agree with me on a lot. Figured that out a long time ago.
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The problem here is that the officers are armed. If a suspect fights them and attempts to incapacitate by knocking one of them out then the perp gets an officers gun...others are then in danger.

Bottom line: it's justified.
 Quoting: Chip


yep, doing stupid things around police can get you killed
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To those defending the cops, consider your opinion if this had been your son who was stopped for a minor offense, and justifiably got angry when unnecessary roughness was used on him when he had co-operated and lain face down.

The female cop will have to live with this the rest of her life. She made a bad decision that killed someone. For her sake, I hope the guy had a long record and was pulled over for good reason.
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If I had a son ignorant enough to not follow police officer directions and try to fight them, he deserves to be shot.
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So, let me get this traight, "escaping" is a capital offense?????????????????
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Good thing he's dead, he doesn't know how to act in a civilized society...
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I was just thinking the same thing.
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Bottom line: it's not justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


The perp was out of the view of the camera when he was shot. How do you know he wasn't on his way back into the fight, or picked up a rock?

You don't know. Now STFU!
 Quoting: Chip


You're an idiot fascist. He was unarmed. The two pigs outweighed him by 5x to 6x.
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Fascist? You obviously don't read my posts often...nor do you understand the meaning of fascist.
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Fascist means conservative these days. They are hoping it will stick.
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Maybe we are watching two different videos. The man fleeing had no time to pick anything up, etc.

Manslaughter at best.

I understand, the concept, of fight for your life, and making sure you come home, etc., but the use of force the female officer used was NOT justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25658088


No, (Respectfully...) I watched the same video as you.

Do you KNOW he did not retrieve a weapon of some kind? I certainly don't.

In reality, it doesn't matter. The truth of this situation can be seen in the first few minutes of the video.

The "COVER" officer that the dash-cam is recorded from tries to control the suspect, however, the suspect escapse and throws a few blows at him. Even HE is outmatched... Through lack of training, fitness levels, or even his mindset. HE IS OUTMATCHED.

Now... The "Fat ASSED" Female that gets the shot off is probably thinking that the Cover Officer is going to save her in some way. But that doesn't happen. So, When the suspect escapes, (Whether or not he grabs an offensive weapon) She is faced with the reality that this guy can do her (or her partner) harm!
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


The thought crossed my mind, in regards to the possibility of the perp retrieving a weapon from his person, but I can't see that happening in the time frame, from the time he gets out of camera range and the shot is fired.

Regardless, my friend stay safe. I know you walk a fine line, and most people do NOT understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25658088

THANK YOU... I realize that there are some STUPID FUCKS out there that do some dumb things,for various reasons. and make ALL Cops look bad. But what MOST people don't realize is that the rest of us make decisions in fractions of a second which are examined, cross checked and questioned in the weeks that follow.

It comes down to what the officer was thinking at the time when determining the outcome of these cases.

I appreciate your insight into the matter. I know it doesn't seem right for this guy to have been shot... Perhaps if other officers were invovled, the outcome would have been different. But one has to look at the totality of the circumstances.
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


Well, us normal people out here are glad people like you are doing the job you do.

Don't let the folks that are trying to escape the law influence how you feel about the rest of us.

You do a valuable service and are needed.
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[link to www.youtube.com]

Dash Cam footage of a Women Police Officer shooting a man trying to escape. By no means do I give credit to the man, for trying to escape. But was this shot really necessary? You
decide..
 Quoting: xBehindthetruthx


He DID attack the officers before fleeing.

A little off topic here...what ever happened to the physical fitness requirement for cops? JEEEEZUS! Seems to me in the old days, cops would've chased the guy down, tackled him, and subdued him. Now they're so fat, they just shoot and kill the guy. It seems that others pay the price (with their lives) for the lack of physical fitness in law enforcement these days. Same thing with tasers. It used to be cops would get down and dirty and physical. Now, they can't have their uniforms wrinkled, so they shoot first (either with a taser or gun) and ask questions later. Not a good trend.
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Can't discriminate against fat people....that's the new normal...supersize...me
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Guy is running away.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25658088


The problem with the guy running away is it can lead to carjackings or this sort of thing:



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And other people get hurt:

"-- A police chase came to a deadly end in Lower Manhattan late Tuesday night.


A suspect attempting to flee from police was struck by at least one car while crossing the FDR Drive at East 6th Street just after 11:30 p.m.
Police were chasing the 22-year-old suspect when he ran across the highway. He dashed onto the road and was struck by a livery cab"


While shooting him to keep him from getting run over seems counter productive, it helps protect those driving.

The therapeutic hold position triggers panic in some inebriated perps due to hypoxia, which appears to be what happened there. Panic, irrational response, boom. I still hate Freud.

Via Freud has anyone here pointed out already how this shooting was directly caused by women's liberation? The male officer naturally feels the need to be dominate, aggressive and protective before the female, squishes the guy and starts the whole thing. A couple of guys working together would not have had any biological urge to escalate things. Unfortunately, the aggressive cop is then emasculated when the females uses her phallic weapon to kill his prey.
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Let us NOT forget, there will more than likely be a civil case.

I do NOT think she will far well.

She will NOT get charged with murder, but manslaughter for sure. What degree, that will all depend.





GLP