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Survival of the Fittest?

 
JeffVader
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11/17/2012 08:24 PM
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Survival of the Fittest?
In today's world,the phrase 'survival of the fittest' is taken as read,the strong survive but the weak perish.

It is a phrase that is synonymous with Charles Darwin.

Problem is though,the wrong theory has been attached to the wrong man.



The phrase was coined in 1866 by the British polymath philosopher Herbert Spencer after reading Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species.And it was he who believed in the theory of the strong persevering over the weak.


Darwin first used the term in the 5th edition of On the Origin of Species,and he used it as a synonym for natural selection.He meant it as a metaphor for life that is better adapted for its local environment.


It should also be noted that Spencer's view does not fit even with the theory of evolution.

""Any individual organism which succeeds in reproducing itself is "fit" and will contribute to survival of its species, not just the "physically fittest" ones, though some of the population will be better adapted to the circumstances than others.""

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Last Edited by JeffVader on 11/18/2012 07:49 PM
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Re: Survival of the Fittest?
>> And it was he who believed in the theory of the strong persevering over the weak.

That's not true at all. You can't have possibly ever read Spencer. His theory of social evolution he described as a corollary to Lamarckian use-inheritance. He began publishing on his theories 17 years before Darwin published "Origin"... Darwin described Spencer as "20 times his superior."

If you understood social Spencerism, you'd realize that Spencer believed that the "strong" have a moral obligation to assist the "weak" improve themselves and their conditions. His theory though concludes that government interventions like welfare interfere with this process which then results in a *permanent* underclass and suffering.

Read "Social Statics" to discover the truth and refrain from propagating myth.
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Re: Survival of the Fittest?
>> And it was he who believed in the theory of the strong persevering over the weak.

That's not true at all. You can't have possibly ever read Spencer. His theory of social evolution he described as a corollary to Lamarckian use-inheritance. He began publishing on his theories 17 years before Darwin published "Origin"... Darwin described Spencer as "20 times his superior."

If you understood social Spencerism, you'd realize that Spencer believed that the "strong" have a moral obligation to assist the "weak" improve themselves and their conditions. His theory though concludes that government interventions like welfare interfere with this process which then results in a *permanent* underclass and suffering.

Read "Social Statics" to discover the truth and refrain from propagating myth.
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I actually meant to put 1866,not 1886.I have corrected it now.

But,wrong date aside,I made it clear that Spencer coined the term and that Darwin used it after him.



Spencer's belief in soft inheritance means that there would be no 'weak' to help because the evolutionary processes would filter out the unfit,so that society would become more advanced.

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