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Stupid fucking Unions...Throw every one of them out.

 
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Hostess, the makers of Twinkies, Ding Dongs and Wonder Bread, is going out of business after striking workers failed to heed a Thursday deadline to return to work, the company said.

“We deeply regret the necessity of today’s decision, but we do not have the financial resources to weather an extended nationwide strike,” Hostess CEO Gregory F. Rayburn said in announcing that the firm had filed a motion with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court to shutter its business. “Hostess Brands will move promptly to lay off most of its 18,500-member workforce and focus on selling its assets to the highest bidders.”

Hostess Brands Inc. had earlier warned employees that it would file to unwind its business and sell off assets if plant operations didn't return to normal levels by 5 p.m. Thursday. In announcing its decision, Hostess said its wind down would mean the closure of 33 bakeries, 565 distribution centers, approximately 5,500 delivery routes and 570 bakery outlet stores in the United States.

Hostess suspended bakery operations at all its factories and said its stores will remain open for several days to sell already-baked products. In the Chicago area, there were reports of Hostess products flying off the shelves.

Rayburn told The Associated Press that there was no buyer waiting in the wings to rescue the company. But without giving details, he said that there has been interest in some of its 30 brands. Experts agreed that it was likely the biggest brands would survive.

The Irving, Texas-based company had already reached a contract agreement with its largest union, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. But thousands of members in its second-biggest union went on strike late last week after rejecting in September a contract offer that cut wages and benefits. Officials for the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union say the company stopped contributing to workers' pensions last year.
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Re: Stupid fucking Unions...Throw every one of them out.
And now the stupid assholes are out of a job.
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Don't throw the onions out..! weirdo
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Re: Stupid fucking Unions...Throw every one of them out.
Everyone loves unions then?
Are people really that dumb?
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Re: Stupid fucking Unions...Throw every one of them out.
And now the stupid assholes are out of a job.
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lets play a game OP.

you make 17 dollars an hour. you live paycheck to paycheck.

your company wants to take away 3 dollars an hour, cut back your health insurance. and change the way and age regarding your 401k.

you know you can't make your current obligations under that type of arrangement.
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I know i love me some Twinkies !! i don't give a crap if you make your house payment. i don't care about you at all. all my narrow mind knows is i love me my Twinkies.

I am so stupid in fact my time will be spent getting mad about Twinkies. it won't cross my pea sized brian that oil is 85 dollars a barrel and gas is 3.58 . the collation of the price ratio between the two indicating inflation wont make it past my nose. i'm such a moran that i wont even notice my freedoms being ripped away slowly from me cause i have twinkies on the brain ( brian ).. monetizing our own debt. will not be an indication of trouble to me cause i'm too busy shoving a Ding Dong up my ass.
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Now read again the last sentence of your post OP !

Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union say the company stopped contributing to workers' pensions last year.

HOW LONG WOULD YOU WORK WITH OUT PAY !!!!!!!

wtf
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Everyone loves unions then?
Are people really that dumb?
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No, not everyone loves unions.
Yes, they are that dumb. Look at Detroit.
Unions = commies and decay
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now the fucking bankers have taken wonder bread and fucking Twinkies away from us!! how much more we going to take!! these fuckers are ruining our way of life!
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Were the employees SENTENCED to work for Hostess? Hell no. They get up and go any time they want. Same with Hostess. And that's what happened. So what's the fucking story? If you apply to a company that has a union, you know what you are getting into from the start, good or bad.
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Were the employees SENTENCED to work for Hostess? Hell no. They get up and go any time they want. Same with Hostess. And that's what happened. So what's the fucking story? If you apply to a company that has a union, you know what you are getting into from the start, good or bad.
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well said AC , well said.

the MSM puts the name UNION on it like its an evil group and people eat it up like its the last loaf of wonder bread.

the workers at hostess said a collective screw you we are better off working at McDonalds then for slave wages.

the MSN will never say its the mis-managment of the company that's at the root of the problem. no it will always be the worker that's to blame. always the little guy they point the finger at. and this OP is to preoccupied with the division tactics of big business to see the broader picture.
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Sounds like someone is angry he won't be able to get his Twinkies anymore. dance
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Unions are not bad.
The company Hostess said we will pay you a non living wage and you will also take a cut in benefits. Take it or leave it.

Funny how the Hostess placed all the trouble they had on the workers and not Top, Middle and Bottom Management.

Don't worry, they will reappear with a part time workforce making Minimum Wage surviving with Government food stamps and Government healthcare.
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The postal unions need to be broken.
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OP, shill or just an idiot?
We are supposed to believe that organizing people to gain equality with powerful companies and corporations that, if they had their way, would overwork, underpay, cut all benefits, and leave no retirement yet let their greed push them to reap record profits and growth for their OWNERS is wrong. Fuck you dick. Hostess owners are mega wealthy simply because the workers make little compared to the owners. Yet the owners would have NOTHING w/o the workers. It is a mutually beneficial relationship... or it's supposed to be, but there is a disparaging in equality in most all big business and the SOLE reason any blue collar worker can even somewhat support himself and/or his family is due to the push back by the unions.
Those owners likely do not give a fuck about the people and are very likely walking away RICH w/o any debt... meanwhile, the workers are w/o a job, worried about what they will do and where their next meal is going to come from, and surely in debt.
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Unions are not bad.
The company Hostess said we will pay you a non living wage and you will also take a cut in benefits. Take it or leave it.

Funny how the Hostess placed all the trouble they had on the workers and not Top, Middle and Bottom Management.

Don't worry, they will reappear with a part time workforce making Minimum Wage surviving with Government food stamps and Government healthcare.
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Hostess had a debt structure that was unsupportable. That is on the ownership and execs.

They also negotiated some apparently top heavy pensions with the unions. That is on the execs and the unions.

The fact that one hold out union would not be reasonable and agree to the same terms as the other unions to help keep the company afloat is on the union. The union was playing bluff and caused the loss of 18,000 jobs.
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Re: Stupid fucking Unions...Throw every one of them out.
OP, shill or just an idiot?
We are supposed to believe that organizing people to gain equality with powerful companies and corporations that, if they had their way, would overwork, underpay, cut all benefits, and leave no retirement yet let their greed push them to reap record profits and growth for their OWNERS is wrong. Fuck you dick. Hostess owners are mega wealthy simply because the workers make little compared to the owners. Yet the owners would have NOTHING w/o the workers. It is a mutually beneficial relationship... or it's supposed to be, but there is a disparaging in equality in most all big business and the SOLE reason any blue collar worker can even somewhat support himself and/or his family is due to the push back by the unions.
Those owners likely do not give a fuck about the people and are very likely walking away RICH w/o any debt... meanwhile, the workers are w/o a job, worried about what they will do and where their next meal is going to come from, and surely in debt.
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You sound like an OWS assclown.

Get over it dude, life aint fair.

TSNC bitch.
I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already!

Please ignore the German flag, I am an American.

Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick.
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[link to www.nbcdfw.com]

Hostess, the makers of Twinkies, Ding Dongs and Wonder Bread, is going out of business after striking workers failed to heed a Thursday deadline to return to work, the company said.

“We deeply regret the necessity of today’s decision, but we do not have the financial resources to weather an extended nationwide strike,” Hostess CEO Gregory F. Rayburn said in announcing that the firm had filed a motion with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court to shutter its business. “Hostess Brands will move promptly to lay off most of its 18,500-member workforce and focus on selling its assets to the highest bidders.”

Hostess Brands Inc. had earlier warned employees that it would file to unwind its business and sell off assets if plant operations didn't return to normal levels by 5 p.m. Thursday. In announcing its decision, Hostess said its wind down would mean the closure of 33 bakeries, 565 distribution centers, approximately 5,500 delivery routes and 570 bakery outlet stores in the United States.

Hostess suspended bakery operations at all its factories and said its stores will remain open for several days to sell already-baked products. In the Chicago area, there were reports of Hostess products flying off the shelves.

Rayburn told The Associated Press that there was no buyer waiting in the wings to rescue the company. But without giving details, he said that there has been interest in some of its 30 brands. Experts agreed that it was likely the biggest brands would survive.

The Irving, Texas-based company had already reached a contract agreement with its largest union, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. But thousands of members in its second-biggest union went on strike late last week after rejecting in September a contract offer that cut wages and benefits. Officials for the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union say the company stopped contributing to workers' pensions last year.
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unions had there day the biggest concern about unions is public sector unions. they must be removed and stopped.
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Re: Stupid fucking Unions...Throw every one of them out.
OP, shill or just an idiot?
We are supposed to believe that organizing people to gain equality with powerful companies and corporations that, if they had their way, would overwork, underpay, cut all benefits, and leave no retirement yet let their greed push them to reap record profits and growth for their OWNERS is wrong. Fuck you dick. Hostess owners are mega wealthy simply because the workers make little compared to the owners. Yet the owners would have NOTHING w/o the workers. It is a mutually beneficial relationship... or it's supposed to be, but there is a disparaging in equality in most all big business and the SOLE reason any blue collar worker can even somewhat support himself and/or his family is due to the push back by the unions.
Those owners likely do not give a fuck about the people and are very likely walking away RICH w/o any debt... meanwhile, the workers are w/o a job, worried about what they will do and where their next meal is going to come from, and surely in debt.
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You're an ASS-CLOWN. Start your own fucking business if you want equality.
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Unions set the scale of the wages you make today.
If it wasnt for Unions you would be making 6.00 an hour with no bennies or retirement whilst the corps make billions in profits.
America used to be a sweatshop with robber barons and the like.
Unions said hey..we make your product with quality, and we want to share in your wealth.
We have families, and homes, and want retirement and security.

The trend now with the influence of KOCH, and the
evil ALEC is to crush Unions, and thus have low wages,
no bennies, and HUGE profits for the corps.

America sent a message to the corporations in this election
The message is FUCK YOU.

It is GREED, and the Corporations that have left this nation
a pile of shit.

Unions our the saving grace of this country and dont you ever forget that!
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wtf. I live in Irving and didn't know hostess was based here.

You mean my hometown was the source of twinkies? Wow
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Unions set the scale of the wages you make today.
If it wasnt for Unions you would be making 6.00 an hour with no bennies or retirement whilst the corps make billions in profits.
America used to be a sweatshop with robber barons and the like.
Unions said hey..we make your product with quality, and we want to share in your wealth.
We have families, and homes, and want retirement and security.

The trend now with the influence of KOCH, and the
evil ALEC is to crush Unions, and thus have low wages,
no bennies, and HUGE profits for the corps.

America sent a message to the corporations in this election
The message is FUCK YOU.

It is GREED, and the Corporations that have left this nation
a pile of shit.

Unions our the saving grace of this country and dont you ever forget that!
 Quoting: TRUTH 20283420


And America sends this mesage to you...You're an idiot!
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Unions set the scale of the wages you make today.
If it wasnt for Unions you would be making 6.00 an hour with no bennies or retirement whilst the corps make billions in profits.
America used to be a sweatshop with robber barons and the like.
Unions said hey..we make your product with quality, and we want to share in your wealth.
We have families, and homes, and want retirement and security.

The trend now with the influence of KOCH, and the
evil ALEC is to crush Unions, and thus have low wages,
no bennies, and HUGE profits for the corps.

America sent a message to the corporations in this election
The message is FUCK YOU.

It is GREED, and the Corporations that have left this nation
a pile of shit.

Unions our the saving grace of this country and dont you ever forget that!
 Quoting: TRUTH 20283420


LOL unions are sub-governing under the corporation of the United States.

NAFTA along with every legislative ACT has fucked you, and so is your union brainwashing under the U.N.gracious commie gov't. And don't you forget that!
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Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
With no hesitation, Franklin replied, “A republic, if you can keep it.”
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Everyone loves unions then?
Are people really that dumb?
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No, not everyone loves unions.
Yes, they are that dumb. Look at Detroit.
Unions = commies and decay
 Quoting: goldielucks


You know why America is fucked up that much its because of people like you telling its commies then the others tells its the capitalism, while the Rothschild laughing their ass off and printing more money.

You will deserve what will come next as your mental mind is sick.
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Everyone loves unions then?
Are people really that dumb?
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No, not everyone loves unions.
Yes, they are that dumb. Look at Detroit.
Unions = commies and decay
 Quoting: goldielucks


You know why America is fucked up that much its because of people like you telling its commies then the others tells its the capitalism, while the Rothschild laughing their ass off and printing more money.

You will deserve what will come next as your mental mind is sick.
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STFU shill. We all know that already. Moreover, your point is not part the subject, and neither is your baseless, demented insult.

Make an appointment with a proctologist to get your head out of your ass so you can stop talking shit from the wrong end.
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Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
With no hesitation, Franklin replied, “A republic, if you can keep it.”
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Re: Stupid fucking Unions...Throw every one of them out.
In 1972, while in college, I was paid 7 dollars an hour as a part time night manager at a fast food restaurant. One night recently I had a conversation with the night manager at the local burgerKing. This was the same location and corporation that I worked for back then, but under a different franchise.
This full time manager was married with two kids and was only making 9.25 dollars an hour.
Unions jobs accounted for over 30 percent of employment back in 1972. Today is is only 7 percent.
When you take into account inflation, that 7 dollar an hour salary would be worth 35 dollars an hour today.
A few years back, I was terminated from a white collar non union job for a major defense contractor you all would recognize, just a couple of months before being fully invested in their retirement plan. Despite my proficiently rating being close to one, I had no recourse. Had I'd been a technician in the companies union, this would be a much different story.

So regardless how you feel about unions, they have always been a hedge against corporate greed. You just have to tract Union strength against wages to realize their necessity.

Oops, I should also mention that I was only paying 30 dollars every quarter year for full medical coverage and that was a private plan I maintained until I finished school in 1975. The private plan that my girlfriend and I are currently under costs over 1,000 dollars a month and has close to a thousand dollar deductible and 80 percent coverage.

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