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As things continue to break down and the money starts to hyperinflate, there won't be enough food for everyone.
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There is enough food produced on this earth for far more than the current population (not that we need to keep increasing). The true cause of hunger is poverty and inequality, not scarcity.
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u don't understand what is happening to this country......
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Even if "money hyperinflates" that does not mean there is automatically a decrease in the amount of food, but it does mean that for large numbers of people (because of inequality of access to resources) that they will not be able to afford to buy less food. Those with plenty of money will still be able to afford food. Just because you can't afford to buy it does not mean that there isn't enough food. Poverty & Inequality is the root cause of persistent hunger in a population, not Scarcity of food itself.
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Its true that if EBT and Government handouts stop, there will be riots.

So what is the Government doing about it???

They are printing more money because no bank or country wants to lend the USA any money. This will devalue the dollar and eventually it will be worthless. Don't believe me, check out Germany prior to WW2 and hyperinflation hit their currency. They were also under the Gold standard back then. Now all currencies float and are assigned value. Once people wake up and realize that a piece of toilet paper could be assigned value, that is about as good as the green back gets...

Organic vs. GMO foods

How do you know that Organic foods are not grown from GMO seeds??? I think its just a big marketing ploy from Monsanto.

There is GMO corn and soybeans. Also in hydrogenated oils and high fructose foods. The only foods that are not GMO are tomatoes and some others. Don't confuse hybrid seeds with GMO seeds, totally different. GMO is genetically altered in a lab so that it can resist different pesticides and diseases, where hybrid seeds are done artificially by grafting techniques or naturally by open pollen cross breeding.

Best thing to do is to get prepared and buy your own seeds and plant a garden. Then you know how it was grown and homegrown always tastes better.

As of cost value, do the math. A package of seeds costs $3.00 or less and can produce many plants that can yield many vegetables.

If you have limited space, try raised beds or flower pots or even the topsee turvee tomatoe plants.

Remember don't rely on the Government, rely on yourself....
Good luck and happy prepping in feeding your family....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27999159


Food can't be certified Organic if it is grown from GMO seed. Period.

You are incorrect in saying, "The only foods that are not GMO are tomatoes and some others." MOST commercial tomatoes ARE GMO. This means most spaghetti sauce, pizzas, tomato soup, have GMO tomatoes.
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Most of you don't think. If the time ever came where I had to use goverment assistance (stuff happens and no one can say they never needed help of any sort at some time) my problem would be the cards. This form of payment serves as a tracking system; everywhere you go and everything you buy is trackable. EBT is simply a means of control.
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Did you know that women using WIC are specifically prohibited from purchasing decent, organic foods for their babies? I have seen it on their fucking brochures..."no organic" written all over it
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and did you know, most organic food is NOT or is worn out because its over priced and people won't buy it.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


It's a common misconception that ORGANIC food is more expensive.. I'll explain why.

The de-nutrification of foods in all products including fruits and vegetables is startling. It may look like an apple, but there's very little apple inside.

As such the body is always hungry and we eat more.. and more. This is why America is the most obese country, their food is garbage.

If you buy WHOLE ORGANIC foods, your body will be full.

Don't believe me? Try it for a week... 100% ALL ORGANIC.. and you won't believe how little you crave food. The body wants nutrition and about 2000 calories a day... however if the nutrition isn't there it will gladly pack in 5000 calories a day.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do the math... if a GMO apple costs 50cents and an organic apple costs 80cents, but keeps you full for twice as long.. then in fact it is cheaper.

Now when you consider this, consider how little you'll be paying doctors.. as you'll never be sick.
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Truer words were never spoken.(Or typed):-)
Organic all the way!!
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gibsmedat....Gibsmedat!.....GIBSMEDAAAATTTT!!!!!.....
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As things continue to break down and the money starts to hyperinflate, there won't be enough food for everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23011194


There is enough food produced on this earth for far more than the current population (not that we need to keep increasing). The true cause of hunger is poverty and inequality, not scarcity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25342985


u don't understand what is happening to this country......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23011194


Even if "money hyperinflates" that does not mean there is automatically a decrease in the amount of food, but it does mean that for large numbers of people (because of inequality of access to resources) that they will not be able to afford to buy less food. Those with plenty of money will still be able to afford food. Just because you can't afford to buy it does not mean that there isn't enough food. Poverty & Inequality is the root cause of persistent hunger in a population, not Scarcity of food itself.
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And the best form of welfare - is a job. Unions cry for a 'living wage' - which means to afford EVERYTHING THEY WANT. That is not realistic and why companies would rather go bankrupt than pay any worker so much as to 'break even' when profit is the motive. Balance folks - balance.

Now - NON-UNION PEOPLE will work at maybe two jobs to 'get ahead'. Union fuks want it all at someone elses expense (usually the price of product made goes up). Either way - food and shelter are the first elements of survival. After that, according to our messiah - everything else is a luxury compared to Kenya.

Be thankful you have a job. It is NOT a 'right' granted. Your drivers license is a PRIVILEDGE not a 'right'.

Gawd!! These PEOPLE who don't get it - JOBS is #1 - not 'WELFARE' a.k.a. NANNY STATE!

But you buffons re-elected him so now we have this mess which we will never recover from. Gawd help the poor and elderly.
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Did you know that women using WIC are specifically prohibited from purchasing decent, organic foods for their babies? I have seen it on their fucking brochures..."no organic" written all over it
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and did you know, most organic food is NOT or is worn out because its over priced and people won't buy it.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


Right. Organic simply implies no use of the pesticides that prevent intestinal parasites and other bug infestations.
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Most of those people are too fat and lazy to riot. I don't believe riots will occur
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Wow, lucky you...you must have lived in some nice places your whole life.

Good for you man!
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I'm trying to find information in this thread where EBT and Government entitlements will stop.

It seems the topic is organic food. The title bit misleading or the topic has gone way off track.
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Did you know that women using WIC are specifically prohibited from purchasing decent, organic foods for their babies? I have seen it on their fucking brochures..."no organic" written all over it
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Not true. You can purchase organic produce with it. The produce vouchers on the WIC program are good for any produce and if you look at some of the packaged organic salads, you'll see a label under it that says "WIC approved".
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The only "produce" you get is $10 a month. How much non organic does that buy? Now how much organic can $10 get you?
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You don't only get $10. We got $16. I bought things like organic apples, romaine lettuce, carrots, celery, and non-organic melons and bananas. If you budget and learn how to use things to stretch them, you can do just fine. We cook most everything from scratch.
ETA: that's with vouchers for each 2 wks- they give you a month at a time but some things are only good for 2 wks...Also, when you're on WIC (never been on food stamps) you are getting the $ for yourself and child- at the age mine were, they didn't eat as much.

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sickening seeing them load their shopping baskets with hot pockets, gatorade bottles, doritos, frozen pizzas, ice cream pops... SMH
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I recently seen an EBT parasite with a buggy full of junk food in the check out line on her bling encased cell phone. The only thing this person considered fruit was 2 boxes of Fruit Roll-Ups.

After finishing with my few items, I seen her loading up the Buick Enclave with all her EBT junk food paid for on welfare.

Now how in the fuck is this parasite driving an Enclave and using a blinged out cell phone getting welfare? And why in the hell should taxpayers buy this useless eater vitamins?

If she can afford a cell phone and an Enclave she can buy her own damn vitamins. Fucking parasites. Totally ridiculous and unacceptable is an understatement.
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Well...force her ancestors to work without pay whats wrong with the "decendents of the slaves to get paid without working??humm I guess what goes around comes around. So quite your bitchin before the ALMIGHTY gives you a REAL problem!
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Soon the Jigs won't be dancing a jig anymore.......
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Typical response of narrow-minded, un-giving/uncaring, mentality. Surprised that no one caught this tidbit of info. Especially in light of pending event slated for March, 2013:

Yesterday, the EBT card system, which is managed by JP Morgan Chase, suffered a six-hour outage across ten states

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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Did you know that women using WIC are specifically prohibited from purchasing decent, organic foods for their babies? I have seen it on their fucking brochures..."no organic" written all over it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25960618


and did you know, most organic food is NOT or is worn out because its over priced and people won't buy it.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


It's a common misconception that ORGANIC food is more expensive.. I'll explain why.

The de-nutrification of foods in all products including fruits and vegetables is startling. It may look like an apple, but there's very little apple inside.

As such the body is always hungry and we eat more.. and more. This is why America is the most obese country, their food is garbage.

If you buy WHOLE ORGANIC foods, your body will be full.

Don't believe me? Try it for a week... 100% ALL ORGANIC.. and you won't believe how little you crave food. The body wants nutrition and about 2000 calories a day... however if the nutrition isn't there it will gladly pack in 5000 calories a day.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do the math... if a GMO apple costs 50cents and an organic apple costs 80cents, but keeps you full for twice as long.. then in fact it is cheaper.

Now when you consider this, consider how little you'll be paying doctors.. as you'll never be sick.
 Quoting: Person445


Good points. Many health food stores accept EBT, so you CAN buy bulk organic local food. You just have to do a little research. That`s IF YOU WANT TO BE HEALTHY....
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EBT stands for "Electronic Benefit Transfer," and it means transferring money from the pockets of working taxpayers into the hands of those who, for one reason or another, are either not working at all or are living below the poverty requirements set by the government.

This transference is done at gunpoint, essentially, through the enforcement of federal tax collection. EBT benefits have more than doubled during the Obama administration's last four years, creating tens of millions of new dependents who now vote based almost entirely on who gives them the most handouts.

 Quoting: Humble721


Democrats pretty much won the game.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


Can we send them all to N.Korea? Hell they don't wanna work. They'd fit right in. That's what their end game looks like anyway....
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EBT stands for "Electronic Benefit Transfer," and it means transferring money from the pockets of working taxpayers into the hands of those who, for one reason or another, are either not working at all or are living below the poverty requirements set by the government.

This transference is done at gunpoint, essentially, through the enforcement of federal tax collection. EBT benefits have more than doubled during the Obama administration's last four years, creating tens of millions of new dependents who now vote based almost entirely on who gives them the most handouts.

 Quoting: Humble721


Democrats pretty much won the game.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


Can we send them all to N.Korea? Hell they don't wanna work. They'd fit right in. That's what their end game looks like anyway....
 Quoting: Tanarus


What happens when the entire country is forced onto the welfare teat? Then you can tell them how high to jump to stay on it.

YES COMRADE, I SHALL JUMP FOR MY SUPPER, COMRADE!

YES COMRADE, I SHALL SOW THE FIELDS FOR YOU, COMRADE!

See what I mean?

They're laying the ground work for mass slavery. Don't look at the short game, look at the long con.
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I recently seen an EBT parasite with a buggy full of junk food in the check out line on her bling encased cell phone. The only thing this person considered fruit was 2 boxes of Fruit Roll-Ups.

After finishing with my few items, I seen her loading up the Buick Enclave with all her EBT junk food paid for on welfare.

Now how in the fuck is this parasite driving an Enclave and using a blinged out cell phone getting welfare? And why in the hell should taxpayers buy this useless eater vitamins?

If she can afford a cell phone and an Enclave she can buy her own damn vitamins. Fucking parasites. Totally ridiculous and unacceptable is an understatement.
 Quoting: goldielucks


More power to that woman!!!

I don't have a vehicle. Can't afford one. And it takes ten times the intestinal fortitude/patience to survive without one, too. There's alot more stress having to depend on someone who isn't very dependable for that weekly ride to the grocery store and run errands... but when I think of what having my own vehicle would mean??? Digging myself out of snow drifts... changing flat tires... insurance to cover terrorism... upkeep... gas. Just to go to the store once a week to buy groceries and run errands??? Gives me a nervous breakdown just thinking about it. I have a gangstalker who sabotages my property any chance they get. I'll be damned if I'll let that cocksucker destroy ANOTHER car.
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while we are all pissed off at the true welfare shirkers in the 4x4s with the mobile phones, reading all this talk of what these people should and should not be allowed to eat actually makes me feel a bit queasy

and its NOT a lack of education. theyve read and heard the 'advice' and choose to eat what they want. none of anybody else biz, is it?

you lot complain about people being dependent on the big state, and yet talk like big brother yourselves, with your 'advice' and your disapproval

myself, i never dictate what others should do, if only more people were like me

and 'organic' IS more expensive, ive tried it myself several times, ive compared prices, like for like

im not dissing it - but it IS more expensive, for obvious reasons

and i put organic in to quotes because in a world where we feel we can trust very few people, much less any organisation, i would take their 'certified assurances' with a pinch of salt. there is simply no way to verify something as organic unless you grew it organically yourself
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EBT cards is just the beginning, Wait till Social Security checks stop coming, Then your retirement checks, surely over the course of the last couple of years you've seen it coming, I have!
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EBT cards are modern-day food stamps, except they're electronic. In essence, they are government-issued debit cards that allow recipients to spend taxpayer money for their own groceries. But EBT cards aren't merely good on food staples like beans and rice, they can be spent on processed junk food that promotes diabetes and obesity. That's the "dirty little secret" of the EBT scheme: It encourages low-income Americans to become high-profit customers of the pharmaceutical industry by eating their way to obesity, diabetes, cancer and heart disease.

That's why the food industry loves EBT cards, too: Most EBT users are low-education consumers who understand virtually nothing about nutrition. They tend to buy the most nutritionally-depleted processed foods available, and that equates to high-profit foods for the processed food industry. (The highest-profit foods are the ones with the least nutrition, it turns out.)

EBT stands for "Electronic Benefit Transfer," and it means transferring money from the pockets of working taxpayers into the hands of those who, for one reason or another, are either not working at all or are living below the poverty requirements set by the government. This transference is done at gunpoint, essentially, through the enforcement of federal tax collection. EBT benefits have more than doubled during the Obama administration's last four years, creating tens of millions of new dependents who now vote based almost entirely on who gives them the most handouts.

The purchase of vitamins is specifically prohibited by the EBT program. This is done as a way to keep EBT recipients sick and diseased while suffering from nutritional deficiencies, which is precisely what the federal government wants.

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
 Quoting: Person445


Op, even us the ones who spend cash buy junk processed food it's not just because you are poor or on foodstamps,,it is because most don't understand processed foods, most don't understand nutrition, most want something that's easy to cook and not take to much time, that's cheaper to buy. I've seen many rich people who are fat and unhealthy. Did you also know that when people work they pay in taxes? So if they pain taxes all their life then when they get foodstamps it's like getting what they paid in back in return, as long as they don't stay on them forever it's ok to get the for a little bit until you can get back on your feet.so quit saying tax payers money like the tax payers are supporting them, I admit the people who has never had a job and paid taxes sure tax payer support them but people who have worked all their life and paid in 100,000 a maybe a million dollars in taxes as I have I wouldn't look at it the way you do,that's my money the government took from me and saved until I need it back and I have every right to get it back they screw me and I wil get my back if I ever need it.peace
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Did you know that women using WIC are specifically prohibited from purchasing decent, organic foods for their babies? I have seen it on their fucking brochures..."no organic" written all over it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25960618


and did you know, most organic food is NOT or is worn out because its over priced and people won't buy it.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


It's a common misconception that ORGANIC food is more expensive.. I'll explain why.

The de-nutrification of foods in all products including fruits and vegetables is startling. It may look like an apple, but there's very little apple inside.





Now when you consider this, consider how little you'll be paying doctors.. as you'll never be sick.

Right. That's why my organic vegan and vegetarian coworkers seem to be sick more than all the rest of us. I am all for eating whatever diet you want. Not everybody chooses to be healthy No level of education short of indoctrination will work to convince everybody to live healthy. Same reason why the drug awareness and education programs have little effect. People will always continue to do what they wish.

The problem with EBT and the rest of it for me is simply that nobody should have the ability to collect their means of survival from anybody else at gunpoint in a civilized society such as this. If I went to the local liquor store and took what I needed to get by today at gunpoint I would go straight to prison, right? So, why would I be able to ask the government to that very thing for me?

As far as being ready for riots, I would think we should all know that scenario would surely happen if the payments stopped. Think about it. Before the days of food stamps, poor folk simply produced their own essentials. We gardened, we canned, we sewed, we hunted, we built, we repaired etc etc. How many people today still individually possess even have of those skills, or have the supplies or tools to do so.peace
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EBT cards are modern-day food stamps, except they're electronic. In essence, they are government-issued debit cards that allow recipients to spend taxpayer money for their own groceries. But EBT cards aren't merely good on food staples like beans and rice, they can be spent on processed junk food that promotes diabetes and obesity. That's the "dirty little secret" of the EBT scheme: It encourages low-income Americans to become high-profit customers of the pharmaceutical industry by eating their way to obesity, diabetes, cancer and heart disease.

That's why the food industry loves EBT cards, too: Most EBT users are low-education consumers who understand virtually nothing about nutrition. They tend to buy the most nutritionally-depleted processed foods available, and that equates to high-profit foods for the processed food industry. (The highest-profit foods are the ones with the least nutrition, it turns out.)

EBT stands for "Electronic Benefit Transfer," and it means transferring money from the pockets of working taxpayers into the hands of those who, for one reason or another, are either not working at all or are living below the poverty requirements set by the government. This transference is done at gunpoint, essentially, through the enforcement of federal tax collection. EBT benefits have more than doubled during the Obama administration's last four years, creating tens of millions of new dependents who now vote based almost entirely on who gives them the most handouts.

The purchase of vitamins is specifically prohibited by the EBT program. This is done as a way to keep EBT recipients sick and diseased while suffering from nutritional deficiencies, which is precisely what the federal government wants.

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
 Quoting: Person445


My family of 4 was on food stamps during our two year unemployment from the economic mess Obama created. We were given $650.00 for me and my husband and $375.00 for my older son (who got that on his own since he was an adult living in the house). That is a stupid amount of 'help' for food...that bought ALL the food and then some! A few things:

1. We bought whole foods, meats, grains, fresh vegetables and pantry stock needs, as we were happy to eat well and not worry about food money and wanted to be prepared should we not get re-approved. YOUR RIGHT though, we saw endless people spending HUGE sums of money eating total garbage and boxed and bagged crapped and then wondering why the HUGE amount of money they were given for food was gone.
2. People would be in the welfare office begging for emergency food stamp money because they had spent it all by the 2nd week. The state does not provide any budgeting classes or nutritional education. It would be so easy to make the food money weekly with the electronic cards.
3. When were became employed, we COULD NOT give the money back to the system. We had 4 months of 'benefits' left and were told we would have to use them out. You cannot STOP it once they have been approved. How dumb is that!.
4. The EBT saved us for sure. All 26 years of working and my husband's unemployment came to $1578.00 per month. JUST barely enough to live off of once we got rid of the car, moved into a $550.00 a month apartment and stopped paying all the bills except the needed ones, like electric, gas, water, trash, insurances.
5. For those with brains and ethics, the system works well. We attended weekly job group meetings and used the State database and Counselor to help us find work we might otherwise have missed. We went to interview classes to freshen up on our interview skills and took advantage of every resource offered us to get employed. It took time, but we made it back out of that mess. During our time, we met many many like us who NEVER imagined being educated, hard working, dedicated employees finding themselves in such dire needs. For us and people like us, the system is awesome.
6. The problem is 90% for the people are lazy, lying, system milking assholes. I had people telling me how to lie, what to say to get out of working, or to get higher benefits! We would take any temp job we could find, and then you reported it, and then it lowered your assistance or decreased your unemployment. This is smart, because it also means you extend the time you can receive benefits, because it pushes the amount reduced to the end. SO you work what you can to not have to DRAW all your benefits, us them up..and then what? ***Well, apparently you can lie about being pregnant, be pregnant for a while and abort and say you miscarried, or actually have a a baby and that will keep you on benefits. Change your address, change your phone, pick a new name! It is CRAZY. People would go to the work classes only as required-once a QUARTER and then do nothing. Would have phones and lie about having them so they were hard to reach!
7. Illegals get all the benefits they want! Not a citizen but hungry and lazy, no worries, Welfare has you covered. Working for cash...Shhhhhhhhhhhh don;t tell you can still get your welfare money.

Very little of our tax payer money is going to people who worked hard and are in need and deserve it. It is really, really sad. At one point I was even told if I kept getting work and reporting my income I would risk being removed because it was 'too much paperwork to complete." That was my counselor. So she said stop telling her, she did not have the time or the inclination to deal with the paperwork involved it was not worth it.
 Quoting: Weltsmertz


EBT cards are modern-day food stamps, except they're electronic. In essence, they are government-issued debit cards that allow recipients to spend taxpayer money for their own groceries. But EBT cards aren't merely good on food staples like beans and rice, they can be spent on processed junk food that promotes diabetes and obesity. That's the "dirty little secret" of the EBT scheme: It encourages low-income Americans to become high-profit customers of the pharmaceutical industry by eating their way to obesity, diabetes, cancer and heart disease.

That's why the food industry loves EBT cards, too: Most EBT users are low-education consumers who understand virtually nothing about nutrition. They tend to buy the most nutritionally-depleted processed foods available, and that equates to high-profit foods for the processed food industry. (The highest-profit foods are the ones with the least nutrition, it turns out.)

EBT stands for "Electronic Benefit Transfer," and it means transferring money from the pockets of working taxpayers into the hands of those who, for one reason or another, are either not working at all or are living below the poverty requirements set by the government. This transference is done at gunpoint, essentially, through the enforcement of federal tax collection. EBT benefits have more than doubled during the Obama administration's last four years, creating tens of millions of new dependents who now vote based almost entirely on who gives them the most handouts.

The purchase of vitamins is specifically prohibited by the EBT program. This is done as a way to keep EBT recipients sick and diseased while suffering from nutritional deficiencies, which is precisely what the federal government wants.

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My family of 4 was on food stamps during our two year unemployment from the economic mess Obama created. We were given $650.00 for me and my husband and $375.00 for my older son (who got that on his own since he was an adult living in the house). That is a stupid amount of 'help' for food...that bought ALL the food and then some! A few things:

1. We bought whole foods, meats, grains, fresh vegetables and pantry stock needs, as we were happy to eat well and not worry about food money and wanted to be prepared should we not get re-approved. YOUR RIGHT though, we saw endless people spending HUGE sums of money eating total garbage and boxed and bagged crapped and then wondering why the HUGE amount of money they were given for food was gone.
2. People would be in the welfare office begging for emergency food stamp money because they had spent it all by the 2nd week. The state does not provide any budgeting classes or nutritional education. It would be so easy to make the food money weekly with the electronic cards.
3. When were became employed, we COULD NOT give the money back to the system. We had 4 months of 'benefits' left and were told we would have to use them out. You cannot STOP it once they have been approved. How dumb is that!.
4. The EBT saved us for sure. All 26 years of working and my husband's unemployment came to $1578.00 per month. JUST barely enough to live off of once we got rid of the car, moved into a $550.00 a month apartment and stopped paying all the bills except the needed ones, like electric, gas, water, trash, insurances.
5. For those with brains and ethics, the system works well. We attended weekly job group meetings and used the State database and Counselor to help us find work we might otherwise have missed. We went to interview classes to freshen up on our interview skills and took advantage of every resource offered us to get employed. It took time, but we made it back out of that mess. During our time, we met many many like us who NEVER imagined being educated, hard working, dedicated employees finding themselves in such dire needs. For us and people like us, the system is awesome.
6. The problem is 90% for the people are lazy, lying, system milking assholes. I had people telling me how to lie, what to say to get out of working, or to get higher benefits! We would take any temp job we could find, and then you reported it, and then it lowered your assistance or decreased your unemployment. This is smart, because it also means you extend the time you can receive benefits, because it pushes the amount reduced to the end. SO you work what you can to not have to DRAW all your benefits, us them up..and then what? ***Well, apparently you can lie about being pregnant, be pregnant for a while and abort and say you miscarried, or actually have a a baby and that will keep you on benefits. Change your address, change your phone, pick a new name! It is CRAZY. People would go to the work classes only as required-once a QUARTER and then do nothing. Would have phones and lie about having them so they were hard to reach!
7. Illegals get all the benefits they want! Not a citizen but hungry and lazy, no worries, Welfare has you covered. Working for cash...Shhhhhhhhhhhh don;t tell you can still get your welfare money.

Very little of our tax payer money is going to people who worked hard and are in need and deserve it. It is really, really sad. At one point I was even told if I kept getting work and reporting my income I would risk being removed because it was 'too much paperwork to complete." That was my counselor. So she said stop telling her, she did not have the time or the inclination to deal with the paperwork involved it was not worth it.
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1 person max food stamps=$200
2 people =$367
3 people =$526
4 people =$668
5 people =$726

sounds like you were claiming more people than you were entitled to....hmmm
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There is so much disinformation on this thread. Let me clarify a few things.

Organic means produced without many of the popular sprays (herbicides, pesticides, fungicides). They are still sprayed, and sometimes with the exact same sprays. But usually they use sprays that are environmetally nicer, but then spray twice as often.
They are supposed to be mostly or entirely free of GMO's, but there is rarely any testing done. Even if one farmer plants Heirloom seeds, that doesn't mean it didn't get pollinated by his neighbors GMO crop.

GMO means genetically modified in a laboratory. These are not hybrids that can be produced in nature or in a controlled breeding experiment. Genes from other species are spliced in to created something new. Despite what many people believe, most fruits and vegetables are not GMO. Some GMO crops are alfalfa, field corn (animal feed, ethanol, corn meal), sweet corn - brand new so most haven't eaten it yet, soybeans, canola, tobacco, rice (not sold in the US), and a new variety of apples that is not in the grocery store yet.

Hybrids - These get a bad rap and are always being confused with GMOs. HYBRIDS ARE NOT GMOS!!!! Unless you look exactly like your parents, you are probably a hybrid. A hybrid is just the crossing of two genetically different plants/animals/people. The offspring has some of the traits of each parent.

99% of your fruits and vegetables are hybrids. There is nothing wrong with hybrids. (I'm a hybrid.) But if you are saving seeds from a hybrid, your next generation will look different from the fruit you saved the seed from. Which is why volunteer tomatoes are often cherry tomatoes.

OP - Open pollinated. If you plant the seeds, the fruit will look like the parent crop. You can save seeds from each generation and keep growing the same crop.

Heirloom - Open pollinated crops that have been around for a long time.

Hope this helps. I feel like beating my head against the wall when so called experts tell people that their apples are GMO and that their chickens are injected with hormones. (No chickens are injected with hormones, but they do eat soy - which is basically estrogen. But that's another rant.)
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I dont know why no one understands that it is vital to have such a program as EBT.. I guess if your well to do.. But imagine a low paying job supporting a family of 3 or 4? Imagine if you were disabled and unable to work? Just imagine if you lost your job and were not able to find work for months and you have a family to feed? If you were lucky enough to never be in these situations I dont think you understand the importance of the EBT program.
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This isn't true. Try buying natural organic and fresh foods on $200 a month for food. Its impossible thus the cheaper less nutritious foods are often bought because the good stuff is unaffordable if you want enough to last the month.
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This is stupid. I'm on EBT, I'm college educated, and I know a LOT about nutrition, decades of info and research I've done, not to mention classes and lectures I've attended to learn more.

Anyway, most of Americans eat unhealthy, not just low income families.

Also, there won't be any 'riot'. EBT isn't going to end anytime soon, nor should it. There is "conspiracy" by the pharm companies regarding EBT.


This thread is a fail.
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OP, most consumers purchase shit, not just those on EBT. And its necessary to have, otherwise there will be starving people which is not healthy for a country such as this.
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Cutting out giving people $400 a month to spend on oreos is not letting them starve lol.

I say knock it back to the essentials. Milk, bread eggs etc. Soon enough the bums will crave their sugary treats and go get a job.
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Soup kitchen and sleeping halls. That's all that is needed.

Much cheaper as well, hence you can help more that need help, instead you waste money with this giving credits bs.

Also you can send home the Africans now.
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EBT cards is just the beginning, Wait till Social Security checks stop coming, Then your retirement checks, surely over the course of the last couple of years you've seen it coming, I have!
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Could we have a link please where it says EBT/Gov.

entitlements are going to stop!

Come On........wtf
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As things continue to break down and the money starts to hyperinflate, there won't be enough food for everyone.
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There is enough food produced on this earth for far more than the current population (not that we need to keep increasing). The true cause of hunger is poverty and inequality, not scarcity.
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u don't understand what is happening to this country......
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And what causes poverty and inequality? A small group of people who for centuries have pulled the strings unnoticed, sucking off the world's bounty--the big banks, criminal corporations, crooked politicians & despotic rulers in their never ending quest for global control.

The Western middle classes are the final obstacle to their dominance.
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