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Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...

 
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Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
because you are considered an addict engaging in illegal activity...

So does that mean any citizen in Washington or Colorado who smokes weed can't own a gun?
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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
because you are considered an addict engaging in illegal activity...

So does that mean any citizen in Washington or Colorado who smokes weed can't own a gun?
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Well, if that's the federal law I'd say "yes." If they were stupid enough to get a government "marijuana license" in the first place, that is...

We have a licensing scheme for medical marijuana up here, but I don't have any damn license and still smoke all the weed I want (which is not much these days though.)
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11/18/2012 09:55 AM
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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
By the time Obama's liberal regime is done, everyone will have a marijuana license and no one will own a gun. Welcome to the new liberal utopia.
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11/18/2012 09:57 AM

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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
most likely since mary jane is still against the law federally. Last time I bought a gun thru a dealer I remember some questions on there about mary jane, addiction and having been treated for addiction. Beware they will try anything to take guns away by any means before they go door to door. If you can be locked up for any reason that will be reason enough to lose your privlege to own a firearm in the near future. WAKE UP AMERICA
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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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11/18/2012 10:01 AM

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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
By accepting any kind of federal or state license for anything you are putting your natural rights in jeopardy while contracting with the nanny state for those privleges. You Have No Rights only Privleges and they can be taken away at any time for any reason. WAKE UP AMERICA
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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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11/18/2012 10:31 AM
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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
if you have the "medical marijuana license" and check the "NO" box on the fed form that asks about habitual drug use, you have just committed a de facto federal felony. no ands, ifs, or buts. are they going to come round you up tomorrow? of course not, but they will use that against you if you cause them any kind of trouble, or give them cause to charge you with another federal crime. i have LONG told folks "be very careful what you ask government for, because very often they will give it to you, and usually it comes back and bites you in the ass." every new form is another consecutive sentence, by the way, so it is in their best interest to allow you several violations, as it gives them a "multi-decades behind bars" stick to threaten you with.
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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
and if you check yes then no firearm for you
WAKE UP AMERICA
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
if you have the "medical marijuana license" and check the "NO" box on the fed form that asks about habitual drug use, you have just committed a de facto federal felony. no ands, ifs, or buts. are they going to come round you up tomorrow? of course not, but they will use that against you if you cause them any kind of trouble, or give them cause to charge you with another federal crime. i have LONG told folks "be very careful what you ask government for, because very often they will give it to you, and usually it comes back and bites you in the ass." every new form is another consecutive sentence, by the way, so it is in their best interest to allow you several violations, as it gives them a "multi-decades behind bars" stick to threaten you with.
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"habitual drug use" is really vague. IF I take aspirin daily, am I an habitual drug user?
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11/18/2012 10:49 AM
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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
we knew.. and didnt twitch.. dangit.. sometimes the truth comes out slow.. like lucas in jan.. wheres that popcorn cat?..
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11/18/2012 10:51 AM

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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
no its not in my opinion but do you take any anti depressants or mood enhancing drugs because that could be grounds for mental instablity and avenue to deny your request to purchase a firearm right now or in the future
WAKE UP AMERICA
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg

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11/18/2012 10:54 AM
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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
i guess they forget to read the Constitution where it says we got that right to bear arms...the very ones whom wrote the Constitution grew marijuana...besides if all laws have to be written in English,then how does a Spanish word like marijuana keep a marijuana law legal?
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
i guess they forget to read the Constitution where it says we got that right to bear arms...the very ones whom wrote the Constitution grew marijuana...besides if all laws have to be written in English,then how does a Spanish word like marijuana keep a marijuana law legal?
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


Which Constitution would you be refering to the one written in 1776 or the current version. Because the latter does nothing for you and me. I will stick with the original.
WAKE UP AMERICA
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
if you have the "medical marijuana license" and check the "NO" box on the fed form that asks about habitual drug use, you have just committed a de facto federal felony. no ands, ifs, or buts. are they going to come round you up tomorrow? of course not, but they will use that against you if you cause them any kind of trouble, or give them cause to charge you with another federal crime. i have LONG told folks "be very careful what you ask government for, because very often they will give it to you, and usually it comes back and bites you in the ass." every new form is another consecutive sentence, by the way, so it is in their best interest to allow you several violations, as it gives them a "multi-decades behind bars" stick to threaten you with.
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"habitual drug use" is really vague. IF I take aspirin daily, am I an habitual drug user?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27970216


don't be an intentional imbecile. i paraphrased the line on the form. if you have ever bought a firearm from a licensed dealer, you know full well the section i mean, or at least you SHOULD. it relates to illegal drugs, narcotics, and alcoholism. as weed is still an "illegal drug" to the federal law books, your card is not a "pass" for the line. technically, steroid abuse would DQ you from firearms ownership.
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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
because you are considered an addict engaging in illegal activity...

So does that mean any citizen in Washington or Colorado who smokes weed can't own a gun?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11677814


lol how the fuck is the feds gonna know you smoke cannabis or even have a medical card. The medical card id confidential. they have no way of knowing unless you admit to it.
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg

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11/18/2012 11:13 AM
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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
i guess they forget to read the Constitution where it says we got that right to bear arms...the very ones whom wrote the Constitution grew marijuana...besides if all laws have to be written in English,then how does a Spanish word like marijuana keep a marijuana law legal?
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


Which Constitution would you be refering to the one written in 1776 or the current version. Because the latter does nothing for you and me. I will stick with the original.
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01
...my Constitution only has 13 amendments,anything drafted in maritime law is illegal...when Lincoln declared martial law then the Constitution was stopped...it never was undeclared...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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11/18/2012 11:20 AM

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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
I don't think it matters if you have a 'Weed License' or not. Smoking weed is still against the law, Federally, within the USA no matter what State Law says. So, I guess, if you are caught with enough weed, you have committed a felony per Federal Law. And, Federal Law states that if you have committed a felony, you cannot own a gun, period.
So, as mentioned, be careful! They can possibly use the marijuana bust to take your guns under Federal Law.
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Re: Since the ATF has made it illegal to own a gun if you have your marijuana license...
because you are considered an addict engaging in illegal activity...

So does that mean any citizen in Washington or Colorado who smokes weed can't own a gun?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11677814


lol how the fuck is the feds gonna know you smoke cannabis or even have a medical card. The medical card id confidential. they have no way of knowing unless you admit to it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27256427


they stakeout the "dispensary" and take down your license plate number, the same as they did with those "hydroponic shops". they raid the dispensary, or subpeona the records of the doctors issuing cards. they bust you on another charge, and find the card in your possession. you fail a drug test, and use the card to claim exempt status. they get the courts to force the state to open its records to them. "confidential" is bullshit.

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