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How do we get rid of Islam? (serious thread, post your suggestions here).

 
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There's not a day that goes by without seeing violence and hatred related to this religion.

How do we, as a species, get rid of it?

How do we wipe it out from the surface of this planet forever so that it doesn't spread like a cancer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12822386


You can't OP, it's called free will. Free will is a double edged sword, it comes with good and bad.

Pray for Jesus to return and then there will be real peace on earth for once.
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Thank you for posting the truth.. God Bless!
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We need to vote for someone like this:


But since so many, are clueless about Islam, they instead vote for presidents who support Islam.

Sooooooo

The masses needs to be educated.

This is the first and primary step.

Do whatever it takes to get the mass educated about Islam.

Mass actions / solutions (e.g. the masses for a president with very strong anti-Islam stances will follow).

So, do whatever it takes to educate the masses, everything else will follow.
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That's the sad part. Most people will only wake up when it's too late and Shariah law is in force in their country.

Some African countries are now learning it the hard way.

Who the hell in their right mind can possibly wish for this system to rule their life?

it's mind boggling really.
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Apparently the UN wants this for America. The people like clinton and rice are working overtime to strip our rights so they can bring in islamic rule.
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Because this is the nature of man (the bible nails this one), and so therefore this religion is appealing to man. But Jesus will return soon and there will be true peace. God Bless.

Where women have no rights, where everyone lives in fear. It's so disgusting.

How come they don't understand that their religion is terrible?

It really puzzles me.
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You have to get the general population on board with opposition, which is an uphill battle.
I try to report with any graphic photos o n any sites I visit, but I'm not sure of the impact, although I have to say, it seems that even "liberals" are troubled by the Death Cult.
I also would suggest to never use any of their terminology to explain who you are and your position.
They are a Death Cult, and nothing more.
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So it's all about the tipping point, where the mass reacts and take action against it.

I think it's coming soon then. Seems like most non Muslim people now hate Muslims.
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There's not a day that goes by without seeing violence and hatred related to this religion.

How do we, as a species, get rid of it?

How do we wipe it out from the surface of this planet forever so that it doesn't spread like a cancer?
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Fanaticism, a negation of true religion

"There are fanatics in every religion who not only claim to see the Creator's reputation attacked everywhere they look, but who imagine that it is their mission to defend Him. As if God were so weak that He needed to be defended! Well, this is what they believe. And so they condemn, persecute, and massacre people who are often superior to themselves. If they were honest, they would ask God's opinion, and they would hear God, who is love, reply: 'Do not concern yourself with this, it is not your affair. If they really wish to attack me, they will destroy themselves, and that will be sufficient punishment. Leave them alone. Or you too will offend Me.' When we truly wish to defend the Creator, we must manifest patience and love, as He does."

"You must never choose a path because of the ordeals that you will meet along the way, with the idea that in doing so you will gain the admiration of others and the approval of heaven. In Bulgaria we have a proverb which says that a saint who is too zealous is even disliked by God. Yes, for this zeal is suspect. Some people, because of their temperament, are moved to sacrifice themselves for noble causes. It is their ideal of generosity which drives them, almost in spite of themselves, along this difficult path. It is this same ideal which keeps them from becoming discouraged, and at the same time it allows them to remain humble and full of love no matter what they accomplish. We must recognise, however, that these beings are rare. So, beware of the fanatics who seek the glory of martyrdom in crazy actions! They should not imagine that this is the way to attract heaven's blessings!"

« Some people are so convinced that God's good name is under attack that they are always taking up arms in His defence. As though the Lord were a weakling who needed to be defended! Well, this is what they seem to think: they go in fear and trembling that His reputation might be besmirched and are ready to defend it at all costs, so they issue their anathemas and persecute and burn and massacre. Why do they never ask the Lord what He thinks about it? They ought to begin by asking His permission:

- "Look at all these unbelievers, heretics and blasphemers, Lord; may we punish them? May we burn them at the stake or cut off their heads?"

But they don't pray or ask the Lord what He thinks about it. They don't want to ask because they are not sincere. The Lord is Love and they have no desire to hear His answer:

- "No, leave them alone. It's none of your business! If they are really wicked they will come to a bad end without any help from you."

In spite of their claim to take up arms in defence of the Lord, they don't really care a jot for what He thinks about it. Do you really believe that these people are defending the Lord? Not a bit of it! They are simply defending their own affairs, their own prestige, influence and authority. What hypocrisy!

If they really wanted to defend the Lord they should do as He does and manifest patience and love. »

hf
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You, as most Swiss, are a coward and anon-committal. It was your country that would not side against the Nazis and allowed trade through your country that actually prolonged WW2. Maybe you f'krs are the real enemy. Seems funny that your country hasn't lost anyone to the muzzies, so what.... are you backing them now?.....the founders of "support to the radical of the week" club there in land of hot chocolate and Nazi gold. How say that bean head? Proves my theory that prolonged exposure to snow and ice destroys brain cells.
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I wish you all Love, Wisdom, Truth and Light to work for the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness on Earth ...

hf
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OP I see your dilemma.
I have a hard time reconciling the two belief systems, on one hand the muslims beleive in Jesus but dont live by his teachings of forgiveness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25801142


Something is clearly wrong with their belief system. I don't know how to correct it.

Maybe re-write the Koran? A newer and more peaceful version?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12822386


Christianity was before Islam. Follow your heart and forgive them for they know not what they do.
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^^This
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I"m not for book burning, but maybe we should impose a ban on this book? And burn it, worldwide?

Burn it until no ones can remember what it was about?

Would that be feasible?
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OP I see your dilemma.
I have a hard time reconciling the two belief systems, on one hand the muslims beleive in Jesus but dont live by his teachings of forgiveness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25801142


Nope, they live by the rule that if you fuck with them, they'll fuck with you.

Leave them alone, allow the ones who seek freedom to come over and integrate, and stay involved in politics.

If we countries didn't meddle in the affairs of other nations, such as bombing the shit out of them and propping up their dictators, we wouldn't be seeing Muslims fleeing those countries.

People don't want to live in war torn countries; doesn't that make sense? They, also, don't want to live in countries ruled by oppressive dictatorships.

The Muslim ideology is not bad or harmful. It is just something you don't agree with. Let's leave those that wish to practice their ideology to live in their countries without having to deal with our foreign policy and we will see a better relations.
Love thy enemy.
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Muhammad vs Jesus

Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)

Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)


"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)

"He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)


Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)

Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)

"Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)


Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)

"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)


Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)

Neither owned nor traded slaves.

Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)

Beheaded no one.

Murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)

Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)


"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)

"If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)


Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)


Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)

Was celibate.

Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)

Did not have sex with children.

Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)

Never harmed a woman.

"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)

"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)


Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )

Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.


Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)

Never took captives.
Never killed anyone.


Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)

Never encouraged rape.
Never enslaved women.


Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)

"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)


Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)

Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)

"Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)


Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)

Healed a blind man
(Mark 8:28)


Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)

Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)


What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)


Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
(Qur'an 4:102)

Chastised anyone attempting
to defend him with force.
(John 18:10-12)


Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute.

Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.

Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)

Was crucified himself.

According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)

According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)
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OP I see your dilemma.
I have a hard time reconciling the two belief systems, on one hand the muslims beleive in Jesus but dont live by his teachings of forgiveness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25801142


Nope, they live by the rule that if you fuck with them, they'll fuck with you.

Leave them alone, allow the ones who seek freedom to come over and integrate, and stay involved in politics.

If we countries didn't meddle in the affairs of other nations, such as bombing the shit out of them and propping up their dictators, we wouldn't be seeing Muslims fleeing those countries.

People don't want to live in war torn countries; doesn't that make sense? They, also, don't want to live in countries ruled by oppressive dictatorships.

The Muslim ideology is not bad or harmful.
It is just something you don't agree with. Let's leave those that wish to practice their ideology to live in their countries without having to deal with our foreign policy and we will see a better relations.
 Quoting: Rebelucio


bsflag
From Dr. Hammond's research.

The stats are a bit old, so the percentages are now higher for each country and worse.

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to
agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the
reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get
the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages
source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country
they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to
anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped
for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and
disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street
gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their
percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards)
food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will
increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves --
along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them
to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of
Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the
entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness
as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings).
Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and
threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations,
sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and
ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other
religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a
weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of
Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. Muslims then
start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
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OP I see your dilemma.
I have a hard time reconciling the two belief systems, on one hand the muslims beleive in Jesus but dont live by his teachings of forgiveness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25801142


Nope, they live by the rule that if you fuck with them, they'll fuck with you.

Leave them alone, allow the ones who seek freedom to come over and integrate, and stay involved in politics.

If we countries didn't meddle in the affairs of other nations, such as bombing the shit out of them and propping up their dictators, we wouldn't be seeing Muslims fleeing those countries.

People don't want to live in war torn countries; doesn't that make sense? They, also, don't want to live in countries ruled by oppressive dictatorships.

The Muslim ideology is not bad or harmful. It is just something you don't agree with. Let's leave those that wish to practice their ideology to live in their countries without having to deal with our foreign policy and we will see a better relations.
 Quoting: Rebelucio


Ok, but then following this logic, do we allow them to come to live in our countries?

Do we allow them to spread this ideology beyond their own countries?

What about the sane people out there, that want to leave Islam and live in a better world?

What do we do with them?
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OP I see your dilemma.
I have a hard time reconciling the two belief systems, on one hand the muslims beleive in Jesus but dont live by his teachings of forgiveness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25801142


Nope, they live by the rule that if you fuck with them, they'll fuck with you.

Leave them alone, allow the ones who seek freedom to come over and integrate, and stay involved in politics.

If we countries didn't meddle in the affairs of other nations, such as bombing the shit out of them and propping up their dictators, we wouldn't be seeing Muslims fleeing those countries.

People don't want to live in war torn countries; doesn't that make sense? They, also, don't want to live in countries ruled by oppressive dictatorships.

The Muslim ideology is not bad or harmful. It is just something you don't agree with. Let's leave those that wish to practice their ideology to live in their countries without having to deal with our foreign policy and we will see a better relations.
 Quoting: Rebelucio


We can't "leave them alone", they live on the same planet as we do.

Don't you think?
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Everybody converts to the new one world GOD or they die.

It's written in the good book.
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And how does it happen? How do we start it?
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I think it would require a disclosure of our history, our real history. Revelation.
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The muslims would not accept it and go berserk like they always do when they feel that their God is insulted.
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We took action against Nazism, so following that logic, surely something can be done against Islam, don't you think?
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Problem is that they (the politicians, media, etc) don't want to do anything against Islam. On the contrary. They do anything to further Islam.
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Re: How do we get rid of Islam? (serious thread, post your suggestions here).
While everybody in the World is looking to curtail Population they are breeding their women like crazy but of course just the Males are allowed to live. More fighters for Islam.

We need to take away their rights to Welfare and Finance in our country by our governments.

Why do I want to pay for an Islamic to come here and then demand I not have a christmas tree because it offends them.

Why are we paying for these people to come here and then kill their own family members for becoming to " Western" and then using our legal system and the money required to prosecute them.

What EVERY PERSON HAS TO DO is start at a grass routes level and write letters and send Emails to the politians starting at the bottom runge and work your way up.

The ones at the bottom and middle are easy to get rid of in a regional type election. Find out which ones are sympathizers and wishy washy about protecting their rights as opposed to ours. Send a clear message. They like their jobs and paychecks too so threaten them with that and let them know it won't be tolerated anymore.

Small city councils like in Brussels with the Christmas Tree ban are the ones implimenting these bans not the governments as a whole. Thats where you need to start.
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OP I see your dilemma.
I have a hard time reconciling the two belief systems, on one hand the muslims beleive in Jesus but dont live by his teachings of forgiveness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25801142


Nope, they live by the rule that if you fuck with them, they'll fuck with you.

Leave them alone, allow the ones who seek freedom to come over and integrate, and stay involved in politics.

If we countries didn't meddle in the affairs of other nations, such as bombing the shit out of them and propping up their dictators, we wouldn't be seeing Muslims fleeing those countries.

People don't want to live in war torn countries; doesn't that make sense? They, also, don't want to live in countries ruled by oppressive dictatorships.

The Muslim ideology is not bad or harmful.
It is just something you don't agree with. Let's leave those that wish to practice their ideology to live in their countries without having to deal with our foreign policy and we will see a better relations.
 Quoting: Rebelucio




bsflag
From Dr. Hammond's research.

The stats are a bit old, so the percentages are now higher for each country and worse.

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to
agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the
reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get
the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages
source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country
they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to
anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped
for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and
disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street
gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their
percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards)
food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will
increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves --
along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them
to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of
Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the
entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness
as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings).
Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and
threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations,
sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and
ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other
religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a
weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of
Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. Muslims then
start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707


You do know that what you just copied is bullshit. There are many factors that lead to what happens in those countries that population stats just don't account for.

That and you don't provide sources for the claims you make about each population bracket.

How about we try my way of non-intervention and see how far that gets us, okay?
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While everybody in the World is looking to curtail Population they are breeding their women like crazy but of course just the Males are allowed to live. More fighters for Islam.

We need to take away their rights to Welfare and Finance in our country by our governments.

Why do I want to pay for an Islamic to come here and then demand I not have a christmas tree because it offends them.

Why are we paying for these people to come here and then kill their own family members for becoming to " Western" and then using our legal system and the money required to prosecute them.

What EVERY PERSON HAS TO DO is start at a grass routes level and write letters and send Emails to the politians starting at the bottom runge and work your way up.

The ones at the bottom and middle are easy to get rid of in a regional type election. Find out which ones are sympathizers and wishy washy about protecting their rights as opposed to ours. Send a clear message. They like their jobs and paychecks too so threaten them with that and let them know it won't be tolerated anymore.

Small city councils like in Brussels with the Christmas Tree ban are the ones implimenting these bans not the governments as a whole. Thats where you need to start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15710859


it also annoys the shit out of me that they want to take down our Christmas trees. Wtf? Go back to your shit hole, for fuck sake.

I don't want them to change ANYTHING in my own country.

Why do we accept that? It's insane.
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OP I see your dilemma.
I have a hard time reconciling the two belief systems, on one hand the muslims beleive in Jesus but dont live by his teachings of forgiveness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25801142


Nope, they live by the rule that if you fuck with them, they'll fuck with you.

Leave them alone, allow the ones who seek freedom to come over and integrate, and stay involved in politics.

If we countries didn't meddle in the affairs of other nations, such as bombing the shit out of them and propping up their dictators, we wouldn't be seeing Muslims fleeing those countries.

People don't want to live in war torn countries; doesn't that make sense? They, also, don't want to live in countries ruled by oppressive dictatorships.

The Muslim ideology is not bad or harmful. It is just something you don't agree with. Let's leave those that wish to practice their ideology to live in their countries without having to deal with our foreign policy and we will see a better relations.
 Quoting: Rebelucio


Ok, but then following this logic, do we allow them to come to live in our countries?

Do we allow them to spread this ideology beyond their own countries?

What about the sane people out there, that want to leave Islam and live in a better world?

What do we do with them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12822386


If you mean, "...live in our countries," as to allow them to live in America, then yes. I've only noticed educated Muslims coming here and being good citizens. They are more likely to be conservative, but are being chased away from the Republican Party because of Islamaphobia.

We, as in Americans, shouldn't be allowed to dictate the immigration policies of the rest of the world.

Those that want to leave Islam have to have the will and determination to leave it. Islam isn't a bad thing; no religion is. We need to remove the log from our own eye before taking the spec out of our brothers.

We are bombing the shit out of the populations in the middle east. Now if that policy isn't much worse from where we are standing to you, then I don't know what else to tell you.
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OP I see your dilemma.
I have a hard time reconciling the two belief systems, on one hand the muslims beleive in Jesus but dont live by his teachings of forgiveness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25801142


Nope, they live by the rule that if you fuck with them, they'll fuck with you.

Leave them alone, allow the ones who seek freedom to come over and integrate, and stay involved in politics.

If we countries didn't meddle in the affairs of other nations, such as bombing the shit out of them and propping up their dictators, we wouldn't be seeing Muslims fleeing those countries.

People don't want to live in war torn countries; doesn't that make sense? They, also, don't want to live in countries ruled by oppressive dictatorships.

The Muslim ideology is not bad or harmful.
It is just something you don't agree with. Let's leave those that wish to practice their ideology to live in their countries without having to deal with our foreign policy and we will see a better relations.
 Quoting: Rebelucio




bsflag
From Dr. Hammond's research.

The stats are a bit old, so the percentages are now higher for each country and worse.

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to
agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the
reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get
the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages
source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country
they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to
anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped
for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and
disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street
gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their
percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards)
food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will
increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves --
along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them
to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of
Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the
entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness
as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings).
Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and
threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations,
sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and
ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other
religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a
weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of
Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. Muslims then
start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707


You do know that what you just copied is bullshit. There are many factors that lead to what happens in those countries that population stats just don't account for.

That and you don't provide sources for the claims you make about each population bracket.

How about we try my way of non-intervention and see how far that gets us, okay?
 Quoting: Rebelucio


We didn't intervened before, and that lead us to the Crusades.

At one point or another, their civilization will cash with ours.

It's inevitable. Think about it, your theory doesn't make any sense. Might buy some time, but not a real solution.
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Nope, they live by the rule that if you fuck with them, they'll fuck with you.

Leave them alone, allow the ones who seek freedom to come over and integrate, and stay involved in politics.

If we countries didn't meddle in the affairs of other nations, such as bombing the shit out of them and propping up their dictators, we wouldn't be seeing Muslims fleeing those countries.

People don't want to live in war torn countries; doesn't that make sense? They, also, don't want to live in countries ruled by oppressive dictatorships.

The Muslim ideology is not bad or harmful.
It is just something you don't agree with. Let's leave those that wish to practice their ideology to live in their countries without having to deal with our foreign policy and we will see a better relations.
 Quoting: Rebelucio




bsflag
From Dr. Hammond's research.

The stats are a bit old, so the percentages are now higher for each country and worse.

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to
agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the
reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get
the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages
source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country
they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to
anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped
for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and
disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street
gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their
percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards)
food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will
increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves --
along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them
to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of
Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the
entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness
as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings).
Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and
threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations,
sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and
ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other
religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a
weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of
Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. Muslims then
start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707


You do know that what you just copied is bullshit. There are many factors that lead to what happens in those countries that population stats just don't account for.

That and you don't provide sources for the claims you make about each population bracket.

How about we try my way of non-intervention and see how far that gets us, okay?
 Quoting: Rebelucio


We didn't intervened before, and that lead us to the Crusades.

At one point or another, their civilization will cash with ours.

It's inevitable. Think about it, your theory doesn't make any sense. Might buy some time, but not a real solution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8936539


(clash)
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It is almost impossible to change a mindset. The best the non-Islamic world can do is to prohibit assimilation by forbidding Muslims to infiltrate non-Muslim society and nations.

This is very similar to a virus. The best way to fight it is to not let it into the body.
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It is almost impossible to change a mindset. The best the non-Islamic world can do is to prohibit assimilation by forbidding Muslims to infiltrate non-Muslim society and nations.

This is very similar to a virus. The best way to fight it is to not let it into the body.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24009796


I agree, or cancer. I know it is a harsh term, but the similarities are too obvious fro not using it.
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OP I see your dilemma.
I have a hard time reconciling the two belief systems, on one hand the muslims beleive in Jesus but dont live by his teachings of forgiveness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25801142


Nope, they live by the rule that if you fuck with them, they'll fuck with you.

Leave them alone, allow the ones who seek freedom to come over and integrate, and stay involved in politics.

If we countries didn't meddle in the affairs of other nations, such as bombing the shit out of them and propping up their dictators, we wouldn't be seeing Muslims fleeing those countries.

People don't want to live in war torn countries; doesn't that make sense? They, also, don't want to live in countries ruled by oppressive dictatorships.

The Muslim ideology is not bad or harmful.
It is just something you don't agree with. Let's leave those that wish to practice their ideology to live in their countries without having to deal with our foreign policy and we will see a better relations.
 Quoting: Rebelucio




bsflag
From Dr. Hammond's research.

The stats are a bit old, so the percentages are now higher for each country and worse.

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to
agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the
reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get
the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages
source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country
they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to
anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped
for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and
disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street
gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their
percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards)
food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will
increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves --
along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them
to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of
Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the
entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness
as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings).
Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and
threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations,
sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and
ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other
religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a
weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of
Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. Muslims then
start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707


You do know that what you just copied is bullshit. There are many factors that lead to what happens in those countries that population stats just don't account for.

That and you don't provide sources for the claims you make about each population bracket.

How about we try my way of non-intervention and see how far that gets us, okay?
 Quoting: Rebelucio


Here's the source, found in Dr. Hammond's book 'Slavery, Terrorism & Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat'.

Let's see your source to negate his evidence.
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How did the Europeans exterminate the Native Americans? They got guns and the bushmen got bow and arrows.
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How did the Dutch get rid of Natalee Holloway oh yheah they turned their number one citizen on them Joran Van Der Sloot.
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There has to be a way right?

Are we that powerless against it?
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Gass the the smelly dirty brown bastards
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Drop a Nuke on that Rock they all walk around, that should get the ball rolling.
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This non intervention approach is pure horse shit.

Is it what you would have recommended we do when Hitler was ruling the world and killing million of people?

A non intervention approach? I don't think so, right?

Something has to be done about Islam.
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OP I see your dilemma.
I have a hard time reconciling the two belief systems, on one hand the muslims beleive in Jesus but dont live by his teachings of forgiveness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25801142


Nope, they live by the rule that if you fuck with them, they'll fuck with you.

Leave them alone, allow the ones who seek freedom to come over and integrate, and stay involved in politics.

If we countries didn't meddle in the affairs of other nations, such as bombing the shit out of them and propping up their dictators, we wouldn't be seeing Muslims fleeing those countries.

People don't want to live in war torn countries; doesn't that make sense? They, also, don't want to live in countries ruled by oppressive dictatorships.

The Muslim ideology is not bad or harmful. It is just something you don't agree with. Let's leave those that wish to practice their ideology to live in their countries without having to deal with our foreign policy and we will see a better relations.
 Quoting: Rebelucio


Ok, but then following this logic, do we allow them to come to live in our countries?

Do we allow them to spread this ideology beyond their own countries?

What about the sane people out there, that want to leave Islam and live in a better world?

What do we do with them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12822386


If you mean, "...live in our countries," as to allow them to live in America, then yes. I've only noticed educated Muslims coming here and being good citizens. They are more likely to be conservative, but are being chased away from the Republican Party because of Islamaphobia.

We, as in Americans, shouldn't be allowed to dictate the immigration policies of the rest of the world.

Those that want to leave Islam have to have the will and determination to leave it. Islam isn't a bad thing; no religion is. We need to remove the log from our own eye before taking the spec out of our brothers.

We are bombing the shit out of the populations in the middle east. Now if that policy isn't much worse from where we are standing to you, then I don't know what else to tell you.
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Spoken like a true Muslim shill, or a person completely clueless about Islam.
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Nope, they live by the rule that if you fuck with them, they'll fuck with you.

Leave them alone, allow the ones who seek freedom to come over and integrate, and stay involved in politics.

If we countries didn't meddle in the affairs of other nations, such as bombing the shit out of them and propping up their dictators, we wouldn't be seeing Muslims fleeing those countries.

People don't want to live in war torn countries; doesn't that make sense? They, also, don't want to live in countries ruled by oppressive dictatorships.

The Muslim ideology is not bad or harmful.
It is just something you don't agree with. Let's leave those that wish to practice their ideology to live in their countries without having to deal with our foreign policy and we will see a better relations.
 Quoting: Rebelucio




bsflag
From Dr. Hammond's research.

The stats are a bit old, so the percentages are now higher for each country and worse.

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to
agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the
reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get
the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages
source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country
they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to
anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped
for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and
disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street
gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their
percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards)
food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will
increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves --
along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them
to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of
Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the
entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness
as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings).
Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and
threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations,
sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and
ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other
religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a
weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of
Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. Muslims then
start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707


You do know that what you just copied is bullshit. There are many factors that lead to what happens in those countries that population stats just don't account for.

That and you don't provide sources for the claims you make about each population bracket.

How about we try my way of non-intervention and see how far that gets us, okay?
 Quoting: Rebelucio


We didn't intervened before, and that lead us to the Crusades.

At one point or another, their civilization will cash with ours.

It's inevitable. Think about it, your theory doesn't make any sense. Might buy some time, but not a real solution.
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We didn't intervene before and that led us to the crusades?
That was a religious battle to claim the holy land. I thought you were against religion?

It's clashing with ours right now. Who are the aggressors in this situation? America, and this is 1000 years after the crusades. I don't think I'm getting your point. Could you explain further?
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Re: How do we get rid of Islam? (serious thread, post your suggestions here).
Muslim shill Reblucio,

Here's some evidence and research for you.

80% of US mosques teaches violence.

Last week came new confirmation that mosques in the U.S. aren’t quite holding potluck suppers and teaching civic pieties. A new study has demonstrated that 80% of mosques right in this country are teaching jihad warfare and Islamic supremacism.

Researchers Mordechai Kedar and David Yerushalmi reported in the Summer 2011 issue of Middle East Quarterly about a new survey that found that “51% of mosques had texts that either advocated the use of violence in the pursuit of a Sharia-based political order or advocated violent jihad as a duty that should be of paramount importance to a Muslim.” Another 30% of mosques in the United States “had only texts that were moderately supportive of violence,” while only “19% had no violent texts at all.”

This yet again contradicts the universally held assumption that U.S. mosques are completely benign institutions, in all respects equivalent to churches and synagogues. As long ago as 1998, Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani, a Sufi leader, visited 114 mosques in the United States. Then he gave testimony before a State Department open forum in January 1999 declaring that Islamic supremacists controlled most mosques in America .

“The most dangerous thing that is going on now in these mosques,” Kabbani said, “that has been sent upon these mosques around the United States—like churches they were established by different organizations and that is okay—but the problem with our communities is the extremist ideology. Because they are very active, they took over the mosques, and we can say that they took over more than 80% of the mosques that have been established in the U.S. And there are more than 3,000 mosques in the U.S. So it means that the methodology or ideology of extremists has been spread to 80% of the Muslim population, but not all of them agree with it.”

Terrorism expert Yehudit Barsky affirmed the same thing in 2005, saying that 80% of the mosques in this country “have been radicalized by Saudi money and influence.” The Center for Religious Freedom in 2005 found a massive distribution of hateful jihadist and Islamic supremacist material in mosques in this country. The Mapping Sharia Project’s 2008 study likewise found that upwards of 80% of mosques in America were preaching hatred of Jews and Christians and the necessity ultimately to impose Islamic rule.

And in June 2008, federal investigators found that the Islamic Saudi Academy in Virginia, despite promises to stop teaching such material, was still using books that advocated that apostates from Islam be executed and that it was permissible for Muslims to kill and seize the property of “polytheists.”

What is most arresting about these studies is their unanimity. Although each was conducted independently of the others, they all came to the same conclusion: that around three-quarters of mosques in this country are teaching what amounts to sedition. And yet the mainstream media has shown about as much interest in the new survey as they did in the others—that is, none at all.

Maybe they figure that it could be worse. After all, in recent years we have seen mosques used to preach hatred, to spread exhortations to terrorist activity, to house a bomb factory, to store weapons, to disseminate messages from Osama bin Laden, to demand that non-Muslims conform to Islamic dietary restrictions, to fire on American troops, to fire upon Indian troops and to train jihadists. But most of that took place outside the United States, so who cares? We know the mosques inside this country are different! And on what do we base this certainty? Why, nothing, nothing at all except for the bland and smiling assurances of Muslim leaders in this country that mosques are simply places of worship, no more, no less, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is a greasy Islamophobe.

It is time to be more realistic. At the very least, reporters all over the country should be asking pointed questions of local mosque leaders about the books they’re using and what they’re teaching in general. And they should call on them to give honest, verifiable answers.

It is more likely, however, that this study, like the others, will simply be ignored. But don’t let that happen. Call upon your elected officials and the media to take notice of this new survey. Our freedoms depend on it.

[link to www.humanevents.com]

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