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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27929611 Luxembourg 11/18/2012 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just Nuke the whole Planet with nuclear weapons erasing all life forms on earth would delete islam completely, if you would nuke the entire east every arab country with islam there would still be islamists in europe or america ... they just are everywhere it is impossible to erase them |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12822386 United States 11/18/2012 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP I see your dilemma. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25801142 I have a hard time reconciling the two belief systems, on one hand the muslims beleive in Jesus but dont live by his teachings of forgiveness Something is clearly wrong with their belief system. I don't know how to correct it. Maybe re-write the Koran? A newer and more peaceful version? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25801142 United States 11/18/2012 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's not a day that goes by without seeing violence and hatred related to this religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12822386 How do we, as a species, get rid of it? How do we wipe it out from the surface of this planet forever so that it doesn't spread like a cancer? We wait. It will eventually decline and fade just like the other, older religions. It's just too bad it takes centuries. We could have orbital cities and colonies on the moon and Mars by now if we hadn't spent the last couple of millennia killing each other over whose fairy tale is correct. One way to speed this up is by allowing immigration from Muslim countries rather than talking about "cancer" and the like. Even if the parents are hardliners, their children and grandchildren will want to live a Western lifestyle with all that entails. A house divided cannot stand. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12822386 United States 11/18/2012 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is one and only one thing that can erase a religion or for example islam: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27929611 just Nuke the whole Planet with nuclear weapons erasing all life forms on earth would delete islam completely, if you would nuke the entire east every arab country with islam there would still be islamists in europe or america ... they just are everywhere it is impossible to erase them That wouldn't solve the problem. As long as one person survives, that believes in Islam, it would spread again. It only takes one person. As ridiculous as it sounds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25801142 United States 11/18/2012 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP I see your dilemma. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25801142 I have a hard time reconciling the two belief systems, on one hand the muslims beleive in Jesus but dont live by his teachings of forgiveness Something is clearly wrong with their belief system. I don't know how to correct it. Maybe re-write the Koran? A newer and more peaceful version? Christianity was before Islam. Follow your heart and forgive them for they know not what they do. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27527707 United States 11/18/2012 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to vote for someone like this: But since so many, are clueless about Islam, they instead vote for presidents who support Islam. Sooooooo The masses needs to be educated. This is the first and primary step. Do whatever it takes to get the mass educated about Islam. Mass actions / solutions (e.g. the masses for a president with very strong anti-Islam stances will follow). So, do whatever it takes to educate the masses, everything else will follow. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27527707 United States 11/18/2012 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From Dr. Hammond's research. The stats are a bit old, so the percentages are now higher for each country and worse. Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components. Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.' When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)). As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness: United States -- Muslim 1.0% Australia -- Muslim 1.5% Canada -- Muslim 1.9% China -- Muslim 1%-2% Italy -- Muslim 1.5% Norway -- Muslim 1.8% At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs: Denmark -- Muslim 2% Germany -- Muslim 3.7% United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7% Spain -- Muslim 4% Thailand -- Muslim 4.6% From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United States). France -- Muslim 8% Philippines -- Muslim 5% Sweden -- Muslim 5% Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5% Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8% At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons). Guyana -- Muslim 10% India -- Muslim 13.4% Israel -- Muslim 16% Kenya -- Muslim 10% Russia -- Muslim 10-15% After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning: Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8% At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare: Bosnia -- Muslim 40% Chad -- Muslim 53.1% Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7% From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels: Albania -- Muslim 70% Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4% Qatar -- Muslim 77.5% Sudan -- Muslim 70% After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide: Bangladesh -- Muslim 83% Egypt -- Muslim 90% Gaza -- Muslim 98.7% Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1% Iran -- Muslim 98% Iraq -- Muslim 97% Jordan -- Muslim 92% Morocco -- Muslim 98.7% Pakistan -- Muslim 97% Palestine -- Muslim 99% Syria -- Muslim 90% Tajikistan -- Muslim 90% Turkey -- Muslim 99.8% United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96% 100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim: Afghanistan -- Muslim 100% Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100% Somalia -- Muslim 100% Yemen -- Muslim 99.9% Of course, that's not the case. Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12822386 United States 11/18/2012 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to vote for someone like this: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707 But since so many, are clueless about Islam, they instead vote for presidents who support Islam. Sooooooo The masses needs to be educated. This is the first and primary step. Do whatever it takes to get the mass educated about Islam. Mass actions / solutions (e.g. the masses for a president with very strong anti-Islam stances will follow). So, do whatever it takes to educate the masses, everything else will follow. That's the sad part. Most people will only wake up when it's too late and Shariah law is in force in their country. Some African countries are now learning it the hard way. Who the hell in their right mind can possibly wish for this system to rule their life? it's mind boggling really. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12822386 United States 11/18/2012 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From Dr. Hammond's research. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707 The stats are a bit old, so the percentages are now higher for each country and worse. Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components. Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.' When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)). As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness: United States -- Muslim 1.0% Australia -- Muslim 1.5% Canada -- Muslim 1.9% China -- Muslim 1%-2% Italy -- Muslim 1.5% Norway -- Muslim 1.8% At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs: Denmark -- Muslim 2% Germany -- Muslim 3.7% United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7% Spain -- Muslim 4% Thailand -- Muslim 4.6% From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United States). France -- Muslim 8% Philippines -- Muslim 5% Sweden -- Muslim 5% Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5% Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8% At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons). Guyana -- Muslim 10% India -- Muslim 13.4% Israel -- Muslim 16% Kenya -- Muslim 10% Russia -- Muslim 10-15% After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning: Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8% At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare: Bosnia -- Muslim 40% Chad -- Muslim 53.1% Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7% From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels: Albania -- Muslim 70% Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4% Qatar -- Muslim 77.5% Sudan -- Muslim 70% After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide: Bangladesh -- Muslim 83% Egypt -- Muslim 90% Gaza -- Muslim 98.7% Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1% Iran -- Muslim 98% Iraq -- Muslim 97% Jordan -- Muslim 92% Morocco -- Muslim 98.7% Pakistan -- Muslim 97% Palestine -- Muslim 99% Syria -- Muslim 90% Tajikistan -- Muslim 90% Turkey -- Muslim 99.8% United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96% 100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim: Afghanistan -- Muslim 100% Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100% Somalia -- Muslim 100% Yemen -- Muslim 99.9% Of course, that's not the case. Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons. I have seen these stats before, and I think it portrays what it is very well. Hence why I refer to it as a cancer. I'm not the only one anyways to do so. I'm not racist or anything like that, I just really despise this religion. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27990980 Switzerland 11/18/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's not a day that goes by without seeing violence and hatred related to this religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12822386 How do we, as a species, get rid of it? How do we wipe it out from the surface of this planet forever so that it doesn't spread like a cancer? Fanaticism, a negation of true religion "There are fanatics in every religion who not only claim to see the Creator's reputation attacked everywhere they look, but who imagine that it is their mission to defend Him. As if God were so weak that He needed to be defended! Well, this is what they believe. And so they condemn, persecute, and massacre people who are often superior to themselves. If they were honest, they would ask God's opinion, and they would hear God, who is love, reply: 'Do not concern yourself with this, it is not your affair. If they really wish to attack me, they will destroy themselves, and that will be sufficient punishment. Leave them alone. Or you too will offend Me.' When we truly wish to defend the Creator, we must manifest patience and love, as He does." "You must never choose a path because of the ordeals that you will meet along the way, with the idea that in doing so you will gain the admiration of others and the approval of heaven. In Bulgaria we have a proverb which says that a saint who is too zealous is even disliked by God. Yes, for this zeal is suspect. Some people, because of their temperament, are moved to sacrifice themselves for noble causes. It is their ideal of generosity which drives them, almost in spite of themselves, along this difficult path. It is this same ideal which keeps them from becoming discouraged, and at the same time it allows them to remain humble and full of love no matter what they accomplish. We must recognise, however, that these beings are rare. So, beware of the fanatics who seek the glory of martyrdom in crazy actions! They should not imagine that this is the way to attract heaven's blessings!" « Some people are so convinced that God's good name is under attack that they are always taking up arms in His defence. As though the Lord were a weakling who needed to be defended! Well, this is what they seem to think: they go in fear and trembling that His reputation might be besmirched and are ready to defend it at all costs, so they issue their anathemas and persecute and burn and massacre. Why do they never ask the Lord what He thinks about it? They ought to begin by asking His permission: - "Look at all these unbelievers, heretics and blasphemers, Lord; may we punish them? May we burn them at the stake or cut off their heads?" But they don't pray or ask the Lord what He thinks about it. They don't want to ask because they are not sincere. The Lord is Love and they have no desire to hear His answer: - "No, leave them alone. It's none of your business! If they are really wicked they will come to a bad end without any help from you." In spite of their claim to take up arms in defence of the Lord, they don't really care a jot for what He thinks about it. Do you really believe that these people are defending the Lord? Not a bit of it! They are simply defending their own affairs, their own prestige, influence and authority. What hypocrisy! If they really wanted to defend the Lord they should do as He does and manifest patience and love. » |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12822386 United States 11/18/2012 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's not a day that goes by without seeing violence and hatred related to this religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12822386 How do we, as a species, get rid of it? How do we wipe it out from the surface of this planet forever so that it doesn't spread like a cancer? Fanaticism, a negation of true religion "There are fanatics in every religion who not only claim to see the Creator's reputation attacked everywhere they look, but who imagine that it is their mission to defend Him. As if God were so weak that He needed to be defended! Well, this is what they believe. And so they condemn, persecute, and massacre people who are often superior to themselves. If they were honest, they would ask God's opinion, and they would hear God, who is love, reply: 'Do not concern yourself with this, it is not your affair. If they really wish to attack me, they will destroy themselves, and that will be sufficient punishment. Leave them alone. Or you too will offend Me.' When we truly wish to defend the Creator, we must manifest patience and love, as He does." "You must never choose a path because of the ordeals that you will meet along the way, with the idea that in doing so you will gain the admiration of others and the approval of heaven. In Bulgaria we have a proverb which says that a saint who is too zealous is even disliked by God. Yes, for this zeal is suspect. Some people, because of their temperament, are moved to sacrifice themselves for noble causes. It is their ideal of generosity which drives them, almost in spite of themselves, along this difficult path. It is this same ideal which keeps them from becoming discouraged, and at the same time it allows them to remain humble and full of love no matter what they accomplish. We must recognise, however, that these beings are rare. So, beware of the fanatics who seek the glory of martyrdom in crazy actions! They should not imagine that this is the way to attract heaven's blessings!" « Some people are so convinced that God's good name is under attack that they are always taking up arms in His defence. As though the Lord were a weakling who needed to be defended! Well, this is what they seem to think: they go in fear and trembling that His reputation might be besmirched and are ready to defend it at all costs, so they issue their anathemas and persecute and burn and massacre. Why do they never ask the Lord what He thinks about it? They ought to begin by asking His permission: - "Look at all these unbelievers, heretics and blasphemers, Lord; may we punish them? May we burn them at the stake or cut off their heads?" But they don't pray or ask the Lord what He thinks about it. They don't want to ask because they are not sincere. The Lord is Love and they have no desire to hear His answer: - "No, leave them alone. It's none of your business! If they are really wicked they will come to a bad end without any help from you." In spite of their claim to take up arms in defence of the Lord, they don't really care a jot for what He thinks about it. Do you really believe that these people are defending the Lord? Not a bit of it! They are simply defending their own affairs, their own prestige, influence and authority. What hypocrisy! If they really wanted to defend the Lord they should do as He does and manifest patience and love. » Agree, it's kind of crazy when you think about it. These people are willing to sacrifice everything they have, for their god and beliefs. Is that why we are on earth? To fight against each others about these beliefs? Sounds like crazy stuff to me. What a waste of time and energy it is. We have to grow up. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27929611 Luxembourg 11/18/2012 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is one and only one thing that can erase a religion or for example islam: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27929611 just Nuke the whole Planet with nuclear weapons erasing all life forms on earth would delete islam completely, if you would nuke the entire east every arab country with islam there would still be islamists in europe or america ... they just are everywhere it is impossible to erase them That wouldn't solve the problem. As long as one person survives, that believes in Islam, it would spread again. It only takes one person. As ridiculous as it sounds. when i say nuke the whole planet i mean the whole planet with all life forms on it as i wrote and that means that no persons has survived to believe in islam |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27168536 United States 11/18/2012 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have to get the general population on board with opposition, which is an uphill battle. I try to report with any graphic photos o n any sites I visit, but I'm not sure of the impact, although I have to say, it seems that even "liberals" are troubled by the Death Cult. I also would suggest to never use any of their terminology to explain who you are and your position. They are a Death Cult, and nothing more. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12822386 United States 11/18/2012 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is one and only one thing that can erase a religion or for example islam: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27929611 just Nuke the whole Planet with nuclear weapons erasing all life forms on earth would delete islam completely, if you would nuke the entire east every arab country with islam there would still be islamists in europe or america ... they just are everywhere it is impossible to erase them That wouldn't solve the problem. As long as one person survives, that believes in Islam, it would spread again. It only takes one person. As ridiculous as it sounds. when i say nuke the whole planet i mean the whole planet with all life forms on it as i wrote and that means that no persons has survived to believe in islam I see your point, might work, I agree. Kinda extreme, but might work. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27929611 Luxembourg 11/18/2012 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is one and only one thing that can erase a religion or for example islam: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27929611 just Nuke the whole Planet with nuclear weapons erasing all life forms on earth would delete islam completely, if you would nuke the entire east every arab country with islam there would still be islamists in europe or america ... they just are everywhere it is impossible to erase them That wouldn't solve the problem. As long as one person survives, that believes in Islam, it would spread again. It only takes one person. As ridiculous as it sounds. when i say nuke the whole planet i mean the whole planet with all life forms on it as i wrote and that means that no persons has survived to believe in islam I see your point, might work, I agree. Kinda extreme, but might work. yes thats simple and easy and the only solution ... and even then you really dont know maybe there are aliens out there who believe in islam .. i highly doubt that but here on earth that would be the only solution |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27755618 United States 11/18/2012 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's not a day that goes by without seeing violence and hatred related to this religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12822386 How do we, as a species, get rid of it? How do we wipe it out from the surface of this planet forever so that it doesn't spread like a cancer? You can't OP, it's called free will. Free will is a double edged sword, it comes with good and bad. Pray for Jesus to return and then there will be real peace on earth for once. Thank you for posting the truth.. God Bless! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25801142 United States 11/18/2012 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to vote for someone like this: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707 But since so many, are clueless about Islam, they instead vote for presidents who support Islam. Sooooooo The masses needs to be educated. This is the first and primary step. Do whatever it takes to get the mass educated about Islam. Mass actions / solutions (e.g. the masses for a president with very strong anti-Islam stances will follow). So, do whatever it takes to educate the masses, everything else will follow. That's the sad part. Most people will only wake up when it's too late and Shariah law is in force in their country. Some African countries are now learning it the hard way. Who the hell in their right mind can possibly wish for this system to rule their life? it's mind boggling really. Apparently the UN wants this for America. The people like clinton and rice are working overtime to strip our rights so they can bring in islamic rule. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27755618 United States 11/18/2012 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because this is the nature of man (the bible nails this one), and so therefore this religion is appealing to man. But Jesus will return soon and there will be true peace. God Bless. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12822386 United States 11/18/2012 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have to get the general population on board with opposition, which is an uphill battle. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27168536 I try to report with any graphic photos o n any sites I visit, but I'm not sure of the impact, although I have to say, it seems that even "liberals" are troubled by the Death Cult. I also would suggest to never use any of their terminology to explain who you are and your position. They are a Death Cult, and nothing more. So it's all about the tipping point, where the mass reacts and take action against it. I think it's coming soon then. Seems like most non Muslim people now hate Muslims. |