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"“Then the kingdom of the heavens will become like ten virgins that took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were discreet. 3 For the foolish took their lamps but took no oil with them, 4 whereas the discreet took oil in their receptacles with their lamps. 5 While the bridegroom was delaying, they all nodded and went to sleep. 6 Right in the middle of the night there arose a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Be on YOUR way out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and put their lamps in order. 8 The foolish said to the discreet, ‘Give us some of YOUR oil, because our lamps are about to go out.’ 9 The discreet answered with the words, ‘Perhaps there may not be quite enough for us and YOU. Be on YOUR way, instead, to those who sell it and buy for yourselves.’ 10 While they were going off to buy, the bridegroom arrived, and the virgins that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast; and the door was shut. 11 Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came, saying, ‘Sir, sir, open to us!’ 12 In answer he said, ‘I tell YOU the truth, I do not know YOU.’
13 “Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU know neither the day nor the hour.' Mt25:1
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It was meant for his bride.
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This story is about opening the pineal/rd eye and hooking the DNA into 12 strands and raising the kundalini. It was meant mostly for these times when he knew of the cosmic energies that would be coming in.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

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It was meant for his bride.
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His bride is those with raised kundalini. And it is not just "christians".
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

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the disciples weren't believers?
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This story is about opening the pineal/rd eye and hooking the DNA into 12 strands and raising the kundalini. It was meant mostly for these times when he knew of the cosmic energies that would be coming in.
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If so why did the discrete tell the foolish to go and buy oil?
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it a fictional story. Nothing more
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This story is about opening the pineal/rd eye and hooking the DNA into 12 strands and raising the kundalini. It was meant mostly for these times when he knew of the cosmic energies that would be coming in.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


If so why did the discrete tell the foolish to go and buy oil?
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Furthermore; how can they buy when they will be forced to receive the mark which leads to eternal damnation?

Hence the weeping...
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it a fictional story. Nothing more
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HINT: "And he journeyed through from city to city and from village to village, teaching and continuing on his journey to Jerusalem.  Now a certain man said to him: “Lord, are those who are being saved few?” He said to them: “Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell YOU, will seek to get in but will not be able," Lk13:22
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This story is about opening the pineal/rd eye and hooking the DNA into 12 strands and raising the kundalini. It was meant mostly for these times when he knew of the cosmic energies that would be coming in.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


If so why did the discrete tell the foolish to go and buy oil?
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Furthermore; how can they buy when they will be forced to receive the mark which leads to eternal damnation?

Hence the weeping...
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Actually the buying was from those who sell 'oil'
For example;

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the disciples weren't believers?
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Yes they were but most 'believers' are not disciples;
"I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is destined to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his kingdom,  preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching.  For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled;  and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories.  You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry." 2Ti4:1
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ah dgn..

so sly in you conveying of messages


hf
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ah dgn..

so sly in you conveying of messages


hf
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Heh..."Let your utterance be always with graciousness, seasoned with salt, so as to know how you ought to give an answer to each one.” (Col 4:6)
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"“Then the kingdom of the heavens will become like ten virgins that took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were discreet. 3 For the foolish took their lamps but took no oil with them, 4 whereas the discreet took oil in their receptacles with their lamps. 5 While the bridegroom was delaying, they all nodded and went to sleep. 6 Right in the middle of the night there arose a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Be on YOUR way out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and put their lamps in order. 8 The foolish said to the discreet, ‘Give us some of YOUR oil, because our lamps are about to go out.’ 9 The discreet answered with the words, ‘Perhaps there may not be quite enough for us and YOU. Be on YOUR way, instead, to those who sell it and buy for yourselves.’ 10 While they were going off to buy, the bridegroom arrived, and the virgins that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast; and the door was shut. 11 Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came, saying, ‘Sir, sir, open to us!’ 12 In answer he said, ‘I tell YOU the truth, I do not know YOU.’
13 “Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU know neither the day nor the hour.' Mt25:1
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it's meant for everyone.
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It was meant for his bride.
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His bride is those with raised kundalini. And it is not just "christians".
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WRONG..

Stop with your Massive Demonic Deception about Kundalini


It is for those followers of Jesus Christ that has kept herself clean and pure
The Church of Philadelphia and Sardis....
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"“Then the kingdom of the heavens will become like ten virgins that took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were discreet. 3 For the foolish took their lamps but took no oil with them, 4 whereas the discreet took oil in their receptacles with their lamps. 5 While the bridegroom was delaying, they all nodded and went to sleep. 6 Right in the middle of the night there arose a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Be on YOUR way out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and put their lamps in order. 8 The foolish said to the discreet, ‘Give us some of YOUR oil, because our lamps are about to go out.’ 9 The discreet answered with the words, ‘Perhaps there may not be quite enough for us and YOU. Be on YOUR way, instead, to those who sell it and buy for yourselves.’ 10 While they were going off to buy, the bridegroom arrived, and the virgins that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast; and the door was shut. 11 Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came, saying, ‘Sir, sir, open to us!’ 12 In answer he said, ‘I tell YOU the truth, I do not know YOU.’
13 “Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU know neither the day nor the hour.' Mt25:1
 Quoting: DGN


it's meant for everyone.
 Quoting: Salt


Jesus' was explaining why he rejects Christendom;

"After a long time the master of those slaves came and settled accounts with them. 20 So the one that had received five talents came forward and brought five additional talents, saying, ‘Master, you committed five talents to me; see, I gained five talents more.’ 21 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave! You were faithful over a few things. I will appoint you over many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’ 22 Next the one that had received the two talents came forward and said, ‘Master, you committed to me two talents; see, I gained two talents more.’ 23 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave! You were faithful over a few things. I will appoint you over many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’
24 “Finally the one that had received the one talent came forward and said, ‘Master, I knew you to be an exacting man, reaping where you did not sow and gathering where you did not winnow. 25 So I grew afraid and went off and hid your talent in the ground. Here you have what is yours.’ 26 In reply his master said to him, ‘Wicked and sluggish slave, you knew, did you, that I reaped where I did not sow and gathered where I did not winnow? 27 Well, then, you ought to have deposited my silver monies with the bankers, and on my arrival I would be receiving what is mine with interest.
28 “‘Therefore TAKE away the talent from him and give it to him that has the ten talents. 29 For to everyone that has, more will be given and he will have abundance; but as for him that does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 30 And throw the good-for-nothing slave out into the darkness outside. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.’ Mt25:20
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Revie 3:10 is the complete answer...

Knowing the Word and learning the plan of God keeps you from deceptions.

John 1:1
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"“Then the kingdom of the heavens will become like ten virgins that took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were discreet. 3 For the foolish took their lamps but took no oil with them, 4 whereas the discreet took oil in their receptacles with their lamps. 5 While the bridegroom was delaying, they all nodded and went to sleep. 6 Right in the middle of the night there arose a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Be on YOUR way out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and put their lamps in order. 8 The foolish said to the discreet, ‘Give us some of YOUR oil, because our lamps are about to go out.’ 9 The discreet answered with the words, ‘Perhaps there may not be quite enough for us and YOU. Be on YOUR way, instead, to those who sell it and buy for yourselves.’ 10 While they were going off to buy, the bridegroom arrived, and the virgins that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast; and the door was shut. 11 Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came, saying, ‘Sir, sir, open to us!’ 12 In answer he said, ‘I tell YOU the truth, I do not know YOU.’
13 “Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU know neither the day nor the hour.' Mt25:1
 Quoting: DGN


it's meant for everyone.
 Quoting: Salt


Jesus' was explaining why he rejects Christendom;

"After a long time the master of those slaves came and settled accounts with them. 20 So the one that had received five talents came forward and brought five additional talents, saying, ‘Master, you committed five talents to me; see, I gained five talents more.’ 21 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave! You were faithful over a few things. I will appoint you over many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’ 22 Next the one that had received the two talents came forward and said, ‘Master, you committed to me two talents; see, I gained two talents more.’ 23 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave! You were faithful over a few things. I will appoint you over many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’
24 “Finally the one that had received the one talent came forward and said, ‘Master, I knew you to be an exacting man, reaping where you did not sow and gathering where you did not winnow. 25 So I grew afraid and went off and hid your talent in the ground. Here you have what is yours.’ 26 In reply his master said to him, ‘Wicked and sluggish slave, you knew, did you, that I reaped where I did not sow and gathered where I did not winnow? 27 Well, then, you ought to have deposited my silver monies with the bankers, and on my arrival I would be receiving what is mine with interest.
28 “‘Therefore TAKE away the talent from him and give it to him that has the ten talents. 29 For to everyone that has, more will be given and he will have abundance; but as for him that does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 30 And throw the good-for-nothing slave out into the darkness outside. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.’ Mt25:20
 Quoting: DGN


no.

the word Christian, from the NT (yes, it's in there) means to be "Christ-like"

the parable in your OP is about believers (and anyone else who hears/reads it). it speaks about how the foolish, who fall asleep because the Messiah takes so long to return. in other words, the bridegroom (Jesus) arrives while the foolish are on their way to buy oil because they realize they will not be able to take from the wise (but, it's too late). the door has shut.
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Revie 3:10 is the complete answer...

Knowing the Word and learning the plan of God keeps you from deceptions.

John 1:1
 Quoting: Little Star

Excellent scripture pick;
"Because you kept the word about my endurance, I will also keep you from the hour of test, which is to come upon the whole inhabited earth, to put a test upon those dwelling on the earth. 11 I am coming quickly. Keep on holding fast what you have, that no one may take your crown.
12 “‘The one that conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out [from it] anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which descends out of heaven from my God, and that new name of mine. 13 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’ Rv3:10
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Revie 3:10 is the complete answer...

Knowing the Word and learning the plan of God keeps you from deceptions.

John 1:1
 Quoting: Little Star

Excellent scripture pick;
"Because you kept the word about my endurance, I will also keep you from the hour of test, which is to come upon the whole inhabited earth, to put a test upon those dwelling on the earth. 11 I am coming quickly. Keep on holding fast what you have, that no one may take your crown.
12 “‘The one that conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out [from it] anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which descends out of heaven from my God, and that new name of mine. 13 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’ Rv3:10
 Quoting: DGN


I could not help myself bro! LOL

Keep them studying and your rewards will be great!

Many blessings.....

hf
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The oil is Gods Word, the truth.

We use olive oil for anointing today.

The sound of the word "olive" sounds like this..

el a Ya.

Halleluiah !

The lamp is your mind !

I am going to let my light shine! (Quoting from a Christian song)lol

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"“Then the kingdom of the heavens will become like ten virgins that took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were discreet. 3 For the foolish took their lamps but took no oil with them, 4 whereas the discreet took oil in their receptacles with their lamps. 5 While the bridegroom was delaying, they all nodded and went to sleep. 6 Right in the middle of the night there arose a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Be on YOUR way out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and put their lamps in order. 8 The foolish said to the discreet, ‘Give us some of YOUR oil, because our lamps are about to go out.’ 9 The discreet answered with the words, ‘Perhaps there may not be quite enough for us and YOU. Be on YOUR way, instead, to those who sell it and buy for yourselves.’ 10 While they were going off to buy, the bridegroom arrived, and the virgins that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast; and the door was shut. 11 Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came, saying, ‘Sir, sir, open to us!’ 12 In answer he said, ‘I tell YOU the truth, I do not know YOU.’
13 “Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU know neither the day nor the hour.' Mt25:1
 Quoting: DGN


it's meant for everyone.
 Quoting: Salt


Jesus' was explaining why he rejects Christendom;

"After a long time the master of those slaves came and settled accounts with them. 20 So the one that had received five talents came forward and brought five additional talents, saying, ‘Master, you committed five talents to me; see, I gained five talents more.’ 21 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave! You were faithful over a few things. I will appoint you over many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’ 22 Next the one that had received the two talents came forward and said, ‘Master, you committed to me two talents; see, I gained two talents more.’ 23 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave! You were faithful over a few things. I will appoint you over many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’
24 “Finally the one that had received the one talent came forward and said, ‘Master, I knew you to be an exacting man, reaping where you did not sow and gathering where you did not winnow. 25 So I grew afraid and went off and hid your talent in the ground. Here you have what is yours.’ 26 In reply his master said to him, ‘Wicked and sluggish slave, you knew, did you, that I reaped where I did not sow and gathered where I did not winnow? 27 Well, then, you ought to have deposited my silver monies with the bankers, and on my arrival I would be receiving what is mine with interest.
28 “‘Therefore TAKE away the talent from him and give it to him that has the ten talents. 29 For to everyone that has, more will be given and he will have abundance; but as for him that does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 30 And throw the good-for-nothing slave out into the darkness outside. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.’ Mt25:20
 Quoting: DGN


no.

the word Christian, from the NT (yes, it's in there) means to be "Christ-like"

the parable in your OP is about believers (and anyone else who hears/reads it). it speaks about how the foolish, who fall asleep because the Messiah takes so long to return. in other words, the bridegroom (Jesus) arrives while the foolish are on their way to buy oil because they realize they will not be able to take from the wise (but, it's too late). the door has shut.
 Quoting: Salt


Correct ! Also like "buy or sell"...
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"“Then the kingdom of the heavens will become like ten virgins that took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were discreet. 3 For the foolish took their lamps but took no oil with them, 4 whereas the discreet took oil in their receptacles with their lamps. 5 While the bridegroom was delaying, they all nodded and went to sleep. 6 Right in the middle of the night there arose a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Be on YOUR way out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and put their lamps in order. 8 The foolish said to the discreet, ‘Give us some of YOUR oil, because our lamps are about to go out.’ 9 The discreet answered with the words, ‘Perhaps there may not be quite enough for us and YOU. Be on YOUR way, instead, to those who sell it and buy for yourselves.’ 10 While they were going off to buy, the bridegroom arrived, and the virgins that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast; and the door was shut. 11 Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came, saying, ‘Sir, sir, open to us!’ 12 In answer he said, ‘I tell YOU the truth, I do not know YOU.’
13 “Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU know neither the day nor the hour.' Mt25:1
 Quoting: DGN


it's meant for everyone.
 Quoting: Salt


Jesus' was explaining why he rejects Christendom;

"After a long time the master of those slaves came and settled accounts with them. 20 So the one that had received five talents came forward and brought five additional talents, saying, ‘Master, you committed five talents to me; see, I gained five talents more.’ 21 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave! You were faithful over a few things. I will appoint you over many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’ 22 Next the one that had received the two talents came forward and said, ‘Master, you committed to me two talents; see, I gained two talents more.’ 23 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave! You were faithful over a few things. I will appoint you over many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’
24 “Finally the one that had received the one talent came forward and said, ‘Master, I knew you to be an exacting man, reaping where you did not sow and gathering where you did not winnow. 25 So I grew afraid and went off and hid your talent in the ground. Here you have what is yours.’ 26 In reply his master said to him, ‘Wicked and sluggish slave, you knew, did you, that I reaped where I did not sow and gathered where I did not winnow? 27 Well, then, you ought to have deposited my silver monies with the bankers, and on my arrival I would be receiving what is mine with interest.
28 “‘Therefore TAKE away the talent from him and give it to him that has the ten talents. 29 For to everyone that has, more will be given and he will have abundance; but as for him that does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 30 And throw the good-for-nothing slave out into the darkness outside. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.’ Mt25:20
 Quoting: DGN


no.

the word Christian, from the NT (yes, it's in there) means to be "Christ-like"

the parable in your OP is about believers (and anyone else who hears/reads it). it speaks about how the foolish, who fall asleep because the Messiah takes so long to return. in other words, the bridegroom (Jesus) arrives while the foolish are on their way to buy oil because they realize they will not be able to take from the wise (but, it's too late). the door has shut.
 Quoting: Salt

Right, they are religious but never become Jesus disciples, have no spiritual enlightenment to share with the world, so the discrete refer them back to their bought and sold clergy;

"That is also why we, from the day we heard [of it], have not ceased praying for YOU and asking that YOU may be filled with the accurate knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual comprehension, 10 in order to walk worthily of Jehovah to the end of fully pleasing [him] as YOU go on bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the accurate knowledge of God, 11 being made powerful with all power to the extent of his glorious might so as to endure fully and be long-suffering with joy, 12 thanking the Father who rendered YOU suitable for YOUR participation in the inheritance of the holy ones in the light." Col1:9

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Did Christ send you to turn his Parables into Parables of your own?

Are Gods Mysteries not sealed enough that you must try and be
"sly" with your "teaching".

Why because it will make it easier for them to Understand?

Ill show you a mystery in that I can tell you the truth in plain English yet you wont believe it you'll twist it and you will deny it, .

Exodus 6:3
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Yet in the Word of God YOU carry you have replaced all with Jehovah and by doing so your cult has caused your word to contradict itself.

How so? Because in your book Abraham calls God by the Name Jehovah and in Exodus God says Abraham did NOT know him by the name Jehovah!

What is the Significance? Even those found with lamps burning are found to have stolen the oil and their light is not pure but burns dimly and only for a moment.

You sir are in Darkness still.

And no for the Truth.

In the Days of Noah when eight souls were saved by water. Likewise even Baptism now saves us.

The Teaching that Accepting Christ into your heart as your personal savior will save you and at that point you are born again is a Lie. Repent!
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Right, the 'foolish virgins" have neither because they want it their own way, according to their convenience.
"I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is destined to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his kingdom, 2 preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching. 3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. 5 You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry." 2Ti4:1
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Right, the 'foolish virgins" have neither because they want it their own way, according to their convenience.
"I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is destined to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his kingdom, 2 preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching. 3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. 5 You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry." 2Ti4:1
 Quoting: DGN


Did Christ send you to turn his Parables into Parables of your own?

Are Gods Mysteries not sealed enough that you must try and be
"sly" with your "teaching".

Why because it will make it easier for them to Understand?

Ill show you a mystery in that I can tell you the truth in plain English yet you wont believe it you'll twist it and you will deny it, .

Exodus 6:3
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Yet in the Word of God YOU carry you have replaced all with Jehovah and by doing so your cult has caused your word to contradict itself.

How so? Because in your book Abraham calls God by the Name Jehovah and in Exodus God says Abraham did NOT know him by the name Jehovah!

What is the Significance? Even those found with lamps burning are found to have stolen the oil and their light is not pure but burns dimly and only for a moment.

You sir are in Darkness still.

And no for the Truth.

In the Days of Noah when eight souls were saved by water. Likewise even Baptism now saves us.

The Teaching that Accepting Christ into your heart as your personal savior will save you and at that point you are born again is a Lie. Repent!
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Re: Jesus illustration about oil in their lamps; was it meant for his disciples or 'believers'?
for those who have ears to hear, eyes to see and heart to understand
 Quoting: miabelieves


Right, the 'foolish virgins" have neither because they want it their own way, according to their convenience.
"I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is destined to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his kingdom, 2 preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching. 3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. 5 You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry." 2Ti4:1
 Quoting: DGN


Did Christ send you to turn his Parables into Parables of your own?

Are Gods Mysteries not sealed enough that you must try and be
"sly" with your "teaching".

Why because it will make it easier for them to Understand?

Ill show you a mystery in that I can tell you the truth in plain English yet you wont believe it you'll twist it and you will deny it, .

Exodus 6:3
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Yet in the Word of God YOU carry you have replaced all with Jehovah and by doing so your cult has caused your word to contradict itself.

How so? Because in your book Abraham calls God by the Name Jehovah and in Exodus God says Abraham did NOT know him by the name Jehovah!

What is the Significance? Even those found with lamps burning are found to have stolen the oil and their light is not pure but burns dimly and only for a moment.

You sir are in Darkness still.

And no for the Truth.

In the Days of Noah when eight souls were saved by water. Likewise even Baptism now saves us.

The Teaching that Accepting Christ into your heart as your personal savior will save you and at that point you are born again is a Lie. Repent!
 Quoting: Gettinupthere


QUOTE; " Even those found with lamps burning are found to have stolen the oil and their light is not pure but burns dimly and only for a moment."
Untwisting this sly deception....
"While they were going off to buy, the bridegroom arrived, and the virgins that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast; and the door was shut. 11 Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came, saying, ‘Sir, sir, open to us!’ 12 In answer he said, ‘I tell YOU the truth, I do not know YOU.’
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 Quoting: miabelieves


Right, the 'foolish virgins" have neither because they want it their own way, according to their convenience.
"I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is destined to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his kingdom, 2 preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching. 3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. 5 You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry." 2Ti4:1
 Quoting: DGN


Did Christ send you to turn his Parables into Parables of your own?

Are Gods Mysteries not sealed enough that you must try and be
"sly" with your "teaching".

Why because it will make it easier for them to Understand?

Ill show you a mystery in that I can tell you the truth in plain English yet you wont believe it you'll twist it and you will deny it, .

Exodus 6:3
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Yet in the Word of God YOU carry you have replaced all with Jehovah and by doing so your cult has caused your word to contradict itself.

How so? Because in your book Abraham calls God by the Name Jehovah and in Exodus God says Abraham did NOT know him by the name Jehovah!

What is the Significance? Even those found with lamps burning are found to have stolen the oil and their light is not pure but burns dimly and only for a moment.

You sir are in Darkness still.

And no for the Truth.

In the Days of Noah when eight souls were saved by water. Likewise even Baptism now saves us.

The Teaching that Accepting Christ into your heart as your personal savior will save you and at that point you are born again is a Lie. Repent!
 Quoting: Gettinupthere


QUOTE; " Even those found with lamps burning are found to have stolen the oil and their light is not pure but burns dimly and only for a moment."
Untwisting this sly deception....
"While they were going off to buy, the bridegroom arrived, and the virgins that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast; and the door was shut. 11 Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came, saying, ‘Sir, sir, open to us!’ 12 In answer he said, ‘I tell YOU the truth, I do not know YOU.’
 Quoting: DGN


Hey my friend I want to ask you a couple of questions.

First question..
Is there a letter "J" in the old Hebrew or in the new Hebrew in the alphabet?

I know the answer myself, but I want to see if you know, okay my friend?

Since the Word speaks of two churches that Christ finds no fault with, what is the second church that you personally know that has kept the Word other than your JW group? I guess I have another question for ya.
What is an acrostic in the Word ?

I am just asking !
Peace bro!

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Right, the 'foolish virgins" have neither because they want it their own way, according to their convenience.
"I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is destined to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his kingdom, 2 preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching. 3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. 5 You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry." 2Ti4:1
 Quoting: DGN


Did Christ send you to turn his Parables into Parables of your own?

Are Gods Mysteries not sealed enough that you must try and be
"sly" with your "teaching".

Why because it will make it easier for them to Understand?

Ill show you a mystery in that I can tell you the truth in plain English yet you wont believe it you'll twist it and you will deny it, .

Exodus 6:3
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Yet in the Word of God YOU carry you have replaced all with Jehovah and by doing so your cult has caused your word to contradict itself.

How so? Because in your book Abraham calls God by the Name Jehovah and in Exodus God says Abraham did NOT know him by the name Jehovah!

What is the Significance? Even those found with lamps burning are found to have stolen the oil and their light is not pure but burns dimly and only for a moment.

You sir are in Darkness still.

And no for the Truth.

In the Days of Noah when eight souls were saved by water. Likewise even Baptism now saves us.

The Teaching that Accepting Christ into your heart as your personal savior will save you and at that point you are born again is a Lie. Repent!
 Quoting: Gettinupthere


QUOTE; " Even those found with lamps burning are found to have stolen the oil and their light is not pure but burns dimly and only for a moment."
Untwisting this sly deception....
"While they were going off to buy, the bridegroom arrived, and the virgins that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast; and the door was shut. 11 Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came, saying, ‘Sir, sir, open to us!’ 12 In answer he said, ‘I tell YOU the truth, I do not know YOU.’
 Quoting: DGN


Hey my friend I want to ask you a couple of questions.

First question..
Is there a letter "J" in the old Hebrew or in the new Hebrew in the alphabet?

I know the answer myself, but I want to see if you know, okay my friend?

Since the Word speaks of two churches that Christ finds no fault with, what is the second church that you personally know that has kept the Word other than your JW group? I guess I have another question for ya.
What is an acrostic in the Word ?

I am just asking !
Peace bro!
 Quoting: Little Star

Jesus was commending the congregations that were doing well, they were not churches of contradictory teachings. All 100,000 congregations of Jehovah's Witness world wide are "fitly united in one mind, with one line of thought" (1Cor1:10) today, which is why Jehovah will not use any branch of Christendom for teaching. This is only possible by direction of his Holy Spirit. I don't know about Hebrew but all bible names are pronounced differently in different languages.
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Right, the 'foolish virgins" have neither because they want it their own way, according to their convenience.
"I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is destined to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his kingdom, 2 preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching. 3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. 5 You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry." 2Ti4:1
 Quoting: DGN


Did Christ send you to turn his Parables into Parables of your own?

Are Gods Mysteries not sealed enough that you must try and be
"sly" with your "teaching".

Why because it will make it easier for them to Understand?

Ill show you a mystery in that I can tell you the truth in plain English yet you wont believe it you'll twist it and you will deny it, .

Exodus 6:3
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Yet in the Word of God YOU carry you have replaced all with Jehovah and by doing so your cult has caused your word to contradict itself.

How so? Because in your book Abraham calls God by the Name Jehovah and in Exodus God says Abraham did NOT know him by the name Jehovah!

What is the Significance? Even those found with lamps burning are found to have stolen the oil and their light is not pure but burns dimly and only for a moment.

You sir are in Darkness still.

And no for the Truth.

In the Days of Noah when eight souls were saved by water. Likewise even Baptism now saves us.

The Teaching that Accepting Christ into your heart as your personal savior will save you and at that point you are born again is a Lie. Repent!
 Quoting: Gettinupthere


QUOTE; " Even those found with lamps burning are found to have stolen the oil and their light is not pure but burns dimly and only for a moment."
Untwisting this sly deception....
"While they were going off to buy, the bridegroom arrived, and the virgins that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast; and the door was shut. 11 Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came, saying, ‘Sir, sir, open to us!’ 12 In answer he said, ‘I tell YOU the truth, I do not know YOU.’
 Quoting: DGN


You untwisted NOTHING! My quote about those found with lamps burning which is stolen oil is an elusion to your Church of Jehovah's witnesses and their changing the word of God to suit themselves. Not to mention all the books and magazines created to add to the word of God which should not be added to.

Here's an idea! Instead of having someone walk up to a stranger and say " Id like to offer you one of our magazines, the watchtower etc." Why not walk up and say Id like to talk to you about the Gospel of Christ or God!?
Because Most People don't care about your Watchtower or twisting and changing of Scriptures but I will Talk about Christ!

Now you have refused to answer my response in regards to changing the word of God and or your false teaching on how to become born again. But I expected nothing less.

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