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The Vaccine Hoax is Over

 
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This must be an american problem....

I don't know a single person in Canada that had a negative side affect and it was mandatory to get vaccines to be allowed into schools...
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It's called a side effect (with an e) and American is spelled with an upper case A.
Are you SURE there were no negative side effects in the schools where you were educated?
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All of the benefits promised by vaccine advocates are actually delivered by inexpensive vitamin D3 supplements with none of the deadly and tragic side effects.

Vitamin D3 is both safe and effective at preventing infectious disease. Vaccines have never been proven to be either safe or effective.

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But it worked for polio? At least, i didn't know anyone who got polio after getting the shot.
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Apparently polio was about to go away all by itself when it was simply renamed to meningitis.

[link to www.vaccination.inoz.com]
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On this site it mentions that whooping cough and croup are one and the same, I am unable to find anything that supports this , I am able to find alot of information that debunks it though.

Do you know of any other site that will support this theory ?
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When I tried to open the link I got an error message stating "Error establishing a database connection."
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What does Bill Gates mean by "If we do a really good job with vaccines, healthcare and reproductive health - we can lower that by 10-15%" ?
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I'm 40 and received the traditional vax when I was young - polio, MMR, diphtheria. Back then there was no flu shot. I never had any problems. I think the shots didn't contain all the pollutants that are in them now. Pharmaceuticals were different back then.
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What does Bill Gates mean by "If we do a really good job with vaccines, healthcare and reproductive health - we can lower that by 10-15%" ?
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Bill Gates is a friggen commie. What does he know about health? He's a businessman and microsoft sucks.
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Im so so glad I chose not to vaccinate my children. Any parents to be, please do your research on vaccine damage.

hf
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Me too!
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What does Bill Gates mean by "If we do a really good job with vaccines, healthcare and reproductive health - we can lower that by 10-15%" ?
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But it worked for polio? At least, i didn't know anyone who got polio after getting the shot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25091961


Apparently polio was about to go away all by itself when it was simply renamed to meningitis.

[link to www.vaccination.inoz.com]
 Quoting: - 27824029


On this site it mentions that whooping cough and croup are one and the same, I am unable to find anything that supports this , I am able to find alot of information that debunks it though.

Do you know of any other site that will support this theory ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28016189


Croup is a symptom, not a diagnosis. It simply refers to a particular kind of cough in wich the trachea, as I recall from school, is inflamed. Some reactive disorders, as well as things like the common cold, can cause croup, especially in children with respiratory weakness. Croup is, however, most commonly associated with pertussis (whooping cough) and, in the vernacular, often used interchangeably.

Also, I cannot get the link in the OP to load. Are the docs available? Have they been released to the public by this British doctor?
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Thanks for finding this OP
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"Deaths
During the 13 controlled clinical trials, death occurred in 4 (out of 7,489) infants. All 4 cases
were attributable to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). Three (out of 4,729 cases receiving
15,739 doses) cases were among Prevnar 13 recipients
, and one (out of 2,760 cases receiving
9,030 doses) was in the Prevnar (7-valent) group.
None of these cases were assessed by the
investigator as causally related to vaccination."

...No, not at all!
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I'm glad this information is getting out. One of my coworkers was actually excited to shoot up her daughter last year with the flu vaccine. Half a year later she's being tested for autism.
 Quoting: black calx


In the NY area there's a radio ad. saying "Who needs the influenza vaccine? Everybody does!"

Haven't heard such an assertion before. Now they are trying to get all age ranges. Everyone over 50, and I guess also very young children.
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If they don't release the papers how do we know

1. Known the vaccines don’t work
2. Known they cause the diseases they are supposed to prevent
3. Known they are a hazard to children
4. Colluded to lie to the public
5. Worked to prevent safety studies


??????

Mohar you are an anti vaccine zealot which means I can't take you seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24909641


I wouldn't call myself a zealot BUT I'm very passionate about this.

I've spent over 20 years of my life researching the dangers of vaccines & see the lies that have been spun to protect the income of big pharma.

If that means you can't take me seriously, then that is your choice.
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That link isn't working.
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I'm 40 and received the traditional vax when I was young - polio, MMR, diphtheria. Back then there was no flu shot. I never had any problems. I think the shots didn't contain all the pollutants that are in them now. Pharmaceuticals were different back then.
 Quoting: cowardlyMe 20395699


I remember there was some concern about MMR. I'm even older from before MMR. I had measles, mumps and chicken pox, each one meant I got to stay home a few days from school. Big whoop, I assumed a vaccination was to stop something really awful.

Boy did things change.
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Are they still pushing Gardasil?

Last I remember they had backed off a bit requiring it for girls, then some were talking about requiring it for boys too, not for any medical need, but because otherwise it would be "unfair".

Nothing is too insane for the gov. to think of forcing us to do these days.
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Are they still pushing Gardasil?

Last I remember they had backed off a bit requiring it for girls, then some were talking about requiring it for boys too, not for any medical need, but because otherwise it would be "unfair".

Nothing is too insane for the gov. to think of forcing us to do these days.
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Yes they are. They are telling girls who go in for a sports physical that the Gardisil shot is required.
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I'm glad this information is getting out. One of my coworkers was actually excited to shoot up her daughter last year with the flu vaccine. Half a year later she's being tested for autism.
 Quoting: black calx


In the NY area there's a radio ad. saying "Who needs the influenza vaccine? Everybody does!"

Haven't heard such an assertion before. Now they are trying to get all age ranges. Everyone over 50, and I guess also very young children.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28008747


They're pushing the flu shot onto pregnant woman!

Gotta start while they are in the womb!



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I was not vaccinated. Had all the childhood "diseases" ... immune system cleanses...and had almost no colds, infctions and flu. When I did, it was diet related. I let it run its course and corrected my eating.

I did research, even as the internet was not all it is today, read books, etc. My son, over the shrieks of in-laws, husband and OB-Pediatrician...no shots.

Terrible time getting him in Kindergarten, but challenged the rule...if everyone else is vaccinated, what harm can my son do them? I'll take responsibility for his health.

He's 24, had mild cases of the childhood cleanses/diseases hardly been sick a day in his life, lean and strong.

And the evil flouride...ugh.
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When I tried to open the link I got an error message stating "Error establishing a database connection."
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Just checked the link, its still a good link.
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[link to foodfreedomgroup.com]

Freedom of Information Act in the UK filed by a doctor there has revealed 30 years of secret official documents showing that government experts have

1. Known the vaccines don’t work
2. Known they cause the diseases they are supposed to prevent
3. Known they are a hazard to children
4. Colluded to lie to the public
5. Worked to prevent safety studies

 Quoting: mopar28m


Their purpose is to keep you sick because then they will not make a profit on you...Come on guys wake up.

Make some popcorn, sit back and learn the truth about our human body:


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Any time they send home 'permission forms' for vax I get a big RED marker and write NO and in the section for why and if any previous side-effects I write VACCINE INDUCED AUTISM!!!

Youngest starts highschool in a yr, we will be keeping her home on vax days and if some how they try to jab her anyway she knows to say she is feeling ill and needs to go home.

It a shame that we have to go to these lengths but unfortunately we have learnt the hard way.



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Any time they send home 'permission forms' for vax I get a big RED marker and write NO and in the section for why and if any previous side-effects I write VACCINE INDUCED AUTISM!!!

Youngest starts highschool in a yr, we will be keeping her home on vax days and if some how they try to jab her anyway she knows to say she is feeling ill and needs to go home.

It a shame that we have to go to these lengths but unfortunately we have learnt the hard way.



hf rockon
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Fortunately I refused the flu shot while pregnant. My OB kept pushing it but I said no. The CDC brainwashes physicians.
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i don't understand why they would just give out "free" flu shots. it doesn't make sense. give us free medicine, then they lose money because we don't get sick because we got the shot... not buying it. something's fishy.
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You all need a crash course in how vaccinations and immunity work. Not often will I say this, but I am reading nothing but absolute ignorance in this thread.


There are reasons Autism is not diagnosed until 2-3 years old, it has to do with how the brain developes, and ironically at this certain stage in brain developement when we see a majority of these abnormal neurological developments occur, is when the body's immune system is able to handle the task of making antibodies against virus and bacteria, or any foreign body of that matter. Immunity is learned. And the only way you can "teach" the body to recognize and defend itself against these foreign bodies is to host a "meet and greet" by means of immunization.



Now, talking about Flouride and water treatment is a whole other discussion. I do believe that pesticides, genetic and chemical treatments of our foods is harming the population in more ways than one.
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I'm sorry but i don't believe it, just because you have some random link its true?

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What happens if you're wrong? What happens if someone listens to you and doesn't get their children vaccinated? What happens if their kids get sick because of it?

75% of american children are immunized and 1% of children have autism, if immunizations caused autism wouldn't there be more children with it?

The rate of autism has risen in the last 20 years, that is because 20 years ago if a kid kept to themselves and were very quiet they were shy - now they have autism.

I have strong opinions on this because i know a lady who didn't get her son vaccinated. When he was 8 months old he got whopping cough, he passed away. She regrets the decision not to vaccinate.
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There is a reason people don't seem to be as hardy or as smart as they use to be. TPTB are purposefully weakening us both physically and mentally. Most of our society are fuzzy brained and dependent on modern health "care". All it would take would be if the electricity got turned off and millions would die of exposure and disease in short order.

Don't remember hearing about any Vikings or Eskimos or Aborigony dying of exposure for lack of modern conveniences and pretty much all of our foundational scientific laws came from the time before computers and micro science tech. we are definitely weaker than we use to be.
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i don't understand why they would just give out "free" flu shots. it doesn't make sense. give us free medicine, then they lose money because we don't get sick because we got the shot... not buying it. something's fishy.
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You don't get sick from a Flu vaccine. What you feel, the aches, lethargy, and mild fever, is the bodies normal defense mechanisms kicking in when it recognizes a foreign body with the "look" of the Flu virus. Your body responds to this foreign body with raising its core temperature (by means of muscle movement [shivvering] and increase in metabolic processes) and increased mucous secretion/production (runny nose, stuffyness, coughing).

It is cheaper to immunize a country for free than it is to handle a pandemic. We learned this after the 1918 Flu pandemic.

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