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Wait - Wuh?? Some Hostess Workers Feel 'Relief' at Losing Jobs ??????????

 
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Most of these businesses have little choice either to comply with Unions or close shop. Unions have a lot of incentive to be aggressive because of all the Federal and State help and benefits they get if they lose like to Hostess. They have a big golden parachute to save them.
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set precedent - they can toss a union contract out

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so they said "No" to an 8% pay-cut in favor of a 100% pay-cut...

makes sense... on Bizarro-Earth!
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Typical corporation blaming labor for their mismanagement. Management takes the credit when the company does well, but never takes the blame when it doesn't.
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so they said "No" to an 8% pay-cut in favor of a 100% pay-cut...

makes sense... on Bizarro-Earth!
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Yep, lol, and they feel "relieved". Well, they were relieved of duty anyway.
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"Unions Have Destroyed Every Company In Which They've Been Intimately Involved"

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 Quoting: Phennommennonn




That is bullshit, I have been employed by a union electrical contractor for close to 20years and the owner lacks for nothing and I have made a great wage and built a very nice retirement during those years.......far more than any non-union electrician in my state!

I pay my dues and they leave me alone, I don't go to their meetings or do any other so called "brotherhood" BS. So if you want to make less and have no future then by all means never join a union.
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Typical corporation blaming labor for their mismanagement. Management takes the credit when the company does well, but never takes the blame when it doesn't.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


costs go up annually.

UIB premiums
HC premiums
payroll taxes
et al etc....

8pct pay cut is chump change compared to having NO JOB AT ALL
you fuckin goober assed shill.

whats 8% of say avg hostess worker hourly 16.81 wage.

do the math.
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Unions gave all the factories a good reason to leave North America,and are also holding our educational system hostage.
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nailed it pretty much.
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Yeah LoL should of left out the head smashi was refering to the unions during the Hoffa era. :)
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years ago on long island....back in the 80s -

theres was/is this industrial pk in hauppauge.

and the unions were trying to organize them.

there was this open house at a hotel - paid for by the factories.

they tried to explain the detriments to the workers

ex:

we pay you a decent wage
healthcare is expensive (and many paid in full the prems at the time - not every bus offered HC tho)
you get vacation, sick, and retirement (some did w/o your contributions)
you got 2 15 min breaks and 30 min lunch
annual raises

add it up...youre actually making XXX amount.

we could take all that away and you can pay your own way.

unions are extortionists.

take a good look at history, the corruption involved .......
the unions reap the benefits - not you. youre just the dumb schmuck who pays them.

if only i could tell you what i know first hand....i cant.
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Holy shit your family has its own show on HBO? And all this time I thought they were actors...
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Would you want to take a pay cut because your board of directors bankrupted a NATIONWIDE company?

Fuck Hostess. And good for their employees refusing to take the 8% pay cut. I would do the same, union or not. The economy may be poor, but I would lose my job before I let an employer who BLEW HIS MONEY, go and take it out on me, the employee, via pay cuts.

There are jobs if you want to work. Sure, may not be in your field, or of the same pay, but there are jobs out there. In the short term I could live with not having my "dream job" to give my employer a big "FUCK YOU" when they bankrupted their selves and want to take it out on me.
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typical obot response.
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snipped:

take a good look at history, the corruption involved .......
the unions reap the benefits - not you. youre just the dumb schmuck who pays them.

if only i could tell you what i know first hand....i cant.
my family for those of you who dont know....is well - watch the sopranos in syndication or on dvd.

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Holy shit your family has its own show on HBO? And all this time I thought they were actors...
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youre missing important plot points dude wink
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Typical corporation blaming labor for their mismanagement. Management takes the credit when the company does well, but never takes the blame when it doesn't.
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typical obot response.
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Would you want to take a pay cut because your board of directors bankrupted a NATIONWIDE company?

Fuck Hostess. And good for their employees refusing to take the 8% pay cut. I would do the same, union or not. The economy may be poor, but I would lose my job before I let an employer who BLEW HIS MONEY, go and take it out on me, the employee, via pay cuts.

There are jobs if you want to work. Sure, may not be in your field, or of the same pay, but there are jobs out there. In the short term I could live with not having my "dream job" to give my employer a big "FUCK YOU" when they bankrupted their selves and want to take it out on me.
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Yea why take a pay cut to $15 dollars an hour when you can say fuck you and MAYBE find a job for $10 an hour.

I'm sure the big wigs making hundreds of thousands a year are going to be real offended...
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Unions simply don't get it - they are unskilled labor. Without the threat of violence, they would have faded from existence decades ago.
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Yeah, the same thing happened in my area. They are fine with the company closing down.

Hostess had already made the employees start paying the company like $10 out of every paycheck. Which ends up being a around $2million if it was $10 a month from each employee for one year.

Then there were no pay raises for 5 years.

This time they wanted each employee to start paying an additional 8% of their wages. Who knows what that amounts to.

Why should an employee have to pay a major corporation to stay in business? They said to take the pay cut or we shut down for good. In my book that is blackmail.

I wonder what kind of pay cuts the people in the higher positions took during that time.
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"Unions Have Destroyed Every Company In Which They've Been Intimately Involved"

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 Quoting: Phennommennonn




That is bullshit, I have been employed by a union electrical contractor for close to 20years and the owner lacks for nothing and I have made a great wage and built a very nice retirement during those years.......far more than any non-union electrician in my state!

I pay my dues and they leave me alone, I don't go to their meetings or do any other so called "brotherhood" BS. So if you want to make less and have no future then by all means never join a union.
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dude - thats what indoctrination does. it sways opinion.
the dems are notorious for this - and quite frankly successful in baiting/reeling the useful idiots in....

the unions prepare you - for socialism & communism

i was a USgovt employee - yes i was union 20+ yrs. had no fuckin clue as a kid - as to their history, ties, agendas, change agents, educational lineage - dude...i was totally clueless.

i was not only an 'area rep'....i took grievances/cases to national arbitration & the NLRB (national labor relations board)

it was 6 mos before i "retired"....where something came across my desk - that alerted me, got my full attention.
it made me realize, that everything 'we' thought/been told - was predicated on a lie. i didnt want to be a tool anymore.

i bowed out.
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f***in' A, Phenn.
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just once I'd like to see a "Union" create a business rather than destroy one.
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I am against unions but I read the ceo's were getting huge pay raises when this was all happening. In that case fuck Em.
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I am against unions but I read the ceo's were getting huge pay raises when this was all happening. In that case fuck Em.
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In effect the union in one stroke killed more jobs than Bain Capital has in it's history. They must be so proud.
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Yeah, the same thing happened in my area. They are fine with the company closing down.

Hostess had already made the employees start paying the company like $10 out of every paycheck. Which ends up being a around $2million if it was $10 a month from each employee for one year.

Then there were no pay raises for 5 years.

This time they wanted each employee to start paying an additional 8% of their wages. Who knows what that amounts to.

Why should an employee have to pay a major corporation to stay in business? They said to take the pay cut or we shut down for good. In my book that is blackmail.

I wonder what kind of pay cuts the people in the higher positions took during that time.
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Unions blame Wall Street. Obama blames Bush.
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New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is getting famous for being one of the only high level elected official in the country who's telling the truth about how public employee unions and their corrupt partnership with the Democrats are destroying us financially......the truth was told on 60 Minutes.

video 60 Minutes Shows How Unions/Dems Destroying US
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The public employee unions are the really evil ones. They hold all the taxpayers hostage. They should be outlawed. I believe FDR said as much.

The Hostess workers were played, but it's their own fault. The stupid comments about being "relieved" to lose the best paycheck they'll ever have shows that someone was egging them on here. It may have even been management.

In my view the company WANTED to close it down. The workers were outside the factories, unable to occupy them or vandalize them. The CEO gets more pay this year because the corporation is liquidating.

Now the factories are locked up tight and safe, the workers are gone, and the factories and even the brand name can be sold to another operator, who will hire and rehire workers unencumbered by those labor agreements and pension obligations.

Bimbo, the big Mexican baking company, is a possible buyer who comes to mind.
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New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is getting famous for being one of the only high level elected official in the country who's telling the truth about how public employee unions and their corrupt partnership with the Democrats are destroying us financially......the truth was told on 60 Minutes.

video 60 Minutes Shows How Unions/Dems Destroying US
[link to www.wrko.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


The public employee unions are the really evil ones. They hold all the taxpayers hostage. They should be outlawed. I believe FDR said as much.

The Hostess workers were played, but it's their own fault. The stupid comments about being "relieved" to lose the best paycheck they'll ever have shows that someone was egging them on here. It may have even been management.

In my view the company WANTED to close it down. The workers were outside the factories, unable to occupy them or vandalize them. The CEO gets more pay this year because the corporation is liquidating.

Now the factories are locked up tight and safe, the workers are gone, and the factories and even the brand name can be sold to another operator, who will hire and rehire workers unencumbered by those labor agreements and pension obligations.

Bimbo, the big Mexican baking company, is a possible buyer who comes to mind.
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yea i posted that url in a thread yesterday.

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sounds like the smart ones are relieved , the tardo's who lived check to check are fucked.

average wage 16.80 ? yeah ok that means union worker parasite makes 24 dollars an hour while the non union makes so little they are eligible for all those programs anyways. get all the bennies get a cash job and fuck em .


family the soprano's ? anyone else not suprised that phen comes from a bunch of bottom feeders who live off the sweat of real workers ballsacks ?
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.They were layed off, .... They WILL get unemployment.





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As I recall from the first (?) thread on this topic a few days ago, the workers' pension was in a "multi-employer" pool, so supposedly they will still receive pension from that pool.

But losing a huge pool member like Hostess must really financially stress the pool. Now, or one more bankruptcy in the future, that pool will blow up and none of the people will get their promised pensions.

It used to be that these promises were very credible, the unions looked solid. Not any more.
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.They were layed off, .... They WILL get unemployment.





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Howzat? Did the company lay them off right before filing for liquidation? That would probably be illegal, because a company normally should not take on obligations right before going BK -- to protect creditor assets.
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Maybe there's a terrific severance pay package depending on their years of service. No doubt their union already had that locked in for them years ago.
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aww i musta struck a noive.........look at the butthurt weenies one staring the thread.

owww.

NOT.

own it fuckers.
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hot air, so what.
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Would you want to take a pay cut because your board of directors bankrupted a NATIONWIDE company?
but I would lose my job before I let an employer who BLEW HIS MONEY, go and take it out on me, the employee, via pay cuts.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18260563


Important point here....HIS MONEY. Employer's money. He can do what ever the fuck he wants with it, including blowing it. And yes, the employees do have to pay the price for what an employer does with the company finances, but it is the company's to do whatever with.

Companies blow money all the time thru bad decisions, malfeasance, etc. That's business. You, as an employee, do NOT have the right to that job, or that pay and benefits.

I'll bet that when the company was doing well, that the unions were clamoring for raises and benefits, but in lean times, for whatever reason, arent willing to give back.
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Federal Gov't is the worst when it comes to blowing money...

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