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Christians - are you getting annoyed with your pastors refusing to acknowledge the times?

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/19/2012 08:41 AM
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Re: Christians - are you getting annoyed with your pastors refusing to acknowledge the times?
I am.

They preach prosperity. They treat God like he's Santa Claus. Pray and ya shall receive.

They REFUSE to acknowledge crooked politicians because they don't want to lose their 501c3 TAX FREE STATUS.

They don't preach repentance.

They don't preach about what is happening in Israel.

They don't preach about all of the prophecy that is taking place right in front our eyes.

They refuse to acknowledge societal corruption, especially sexual sin.

They seem to be alllllll about prosperity. Preaching about praying to find a better job and you will come through the trials with a better job because that's the most important thing in life??? WTF is that!!

They lead the sheep astray.

I for one, am annoyed.

Rant Over.
 Quoting: mrclean

Yep,
I was getting annoyed that so many churches seem to be running as businesses instead of Churches. So went to church this week and guess what one of the "pastors" said. She was asking if we had any new visitors to the church, but when no one put there hand up she said "we have repeat customers then". I guess she thought she was joking but in a way i think it was an answer to prayer. For quite some time i had been talking to God about he feels about these modern churches which seem to act more like businesses than chuches. I'm 27 so ive seen the old and the new style of Church. There are some good people in these churches but i think that the truth is, if Jesus was here he'd be doing some table flipping again. If i had the courage i'd do it myself.
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11/19/2012 08:43 AM
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Re: Christians - are you getting annoyed with your pastors refusing to acknowledge the times?
I am.

They preach prosperity. They treat God like he's Santa Claus. Pray and ya shall receive.

They REFUSE to acknowledge crooked politicians because they don't want to lose their 501c3 TAX FREE STATUS.

They don't preach repentance.

They don't preach about what is happening in Israel.

They don't preach about all of the prophecy that is taking place right in front our eyes.

They refuse to acknowledge societal corruption, especially sexual sin.

They seem to be alllllll about prosperity. Preaching about praying to find a better job and you will come through the trials with a better job because that's the most important thing in life??? WTF is that!!

They lead the sheep astray.

I for one, am annoyed.

Rant Over.
 Quoting: mrclean


What you are referring is prosperity theology
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It is originated in the United States and it is turning our traditional Christian churches into circus. So they think that you can force Holy Spirit to give you free money etc. It does not work this way!!!

Only some small fractions of church are free of this prosperity theology, and stick to the Bible. The others have sold their souls to Satan, to get more visitors to church and more donations to support the poor economy situation of church.
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11/19/2012 08:46 AM
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Re: Christians - are you getting annoyed with your pastors refusing to acknowledge the times?
This is how satan has taken over the churches.

and it is true, they preach what people want to hear, not what God wants us to listen to.

God led me to the truth, this site and many others hold it. Not church, they hold whatever the media is saying right now.
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11/19/2012 08:47 AM
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1st of all there are no such thing a Preacher who preaches to the sheep, that's a scam. Preachers are to the unregenerate.
2. The word Pastor is only mentioned once in the Scriptures and there is no job description of what this Shepard even does. Why is this man the most important person in the room?
3. Some unknown author (Hebrews) told the Hebrew believers not to forsake the assembly(not church). Probably didn't want to fellowship with Gentiles. It doesn't mean you must "go to church".
4. I bet the large majority of people in your edifice are unregenerate so since there is no fellowship with unbelievers, why go?
5. Sheep are timid pasture dwellers and goats are mountain climbers, so who are these men who have climbed there way to the top of the machine of church? Why are they the only ones to share? If others have the same Spirit, why can't all talk?

I know the "Guardians" of the Beast called church will go ballistic and cast heaps of accusations at me. I just want those that are His to consider these thoughts and follow Him and not men. Wolves like to herd their victims into groups so they can kill all.
 Quoting: Pappion


Agree. Here's something I wrote a few years ago about "pastors": [link to www.fether.net]

And a whole book about power and control in Christianity: [link to books.fether.net] (and in the Appendix is a historical account of how quickly this began after the apostles died).

Re. Hebrews, agree as well that they were not saying "go to church as tradition has had it". The context is of Jews who were being tempted to return to Judaism from Christianity, to the synagogue rather than the gatherings of followers of Jesus.

And tithing is of course a false teaching: [link to www.tithing.christian-things.com]

As someone born and raised in Churchianity, active and faithful for 47 years, I can attest to the fact that what people want is a religious club. Many do go with the best of intentions, to worship God and serve fellow believers as well as give to the poor. But it is at its core a substitute, a fake a corruption. Jesus said "Where two or three gather in my name, there I am", and "The time has come to worship God not in a sacred place but in spirit and truth".
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Re: Christians - are you getting annoyed with your pastors refusing to acknowledge the times?
This is how satan has taken over the churches.

and it is true, they preach what people want to hear, not what God wants us to listen to.

God led me to the truth, this site and many others hold it. Not church, they hold whatever the media is saying right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1779676


Most of organized churches do not follow the Bible, but mislead people, and it is which Satan loves, to mislead.

If you want to know the Real Christianity, read the Bible. I would even recommend old translations instead of new, to get more authentic experience.
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11/20/2012 02:45 PM
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Re: Christians - are you getting annoyed with your pastors refusing to acknowledge the times?
My pastor a couple months ago said he thinks that Jesus is coming soon.
This video illustrates how we are living in exponential times, he showed it to the church a couple months ago:
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11/20/2012 02:51 PM
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Re: Christians - are you getting annoyed with your pastors refusing to acknowledge the times?
You should go to a catholic church instead. You will pray for peace in the world and salvation for everyone.
Fèlix Misérable

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11/22/2012 10:14 AM
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Re: Christians - are you getting annoyed with your pastors refusing to acknowledge the times?
My Pastor is teaching from the Book of Psalms currently..

He really does not teach about the end times nor repentenance.

He does teach on the scriptures...

It is a non-denominational christian church...
 Quoting: christian


Yet you still throw him 10% of your money like "god" asks... Let me ask you, when is the last time the church helped you out in your life?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27845485


Yes I tithe to my my church as a joyful act to GOD..It is my pleasure as to my sacrafice as to living in the spirit...
 Quoting: christian


why dont you your self take your money and do something good for your fellow humans. you personaly would be doing a good dead in gods name and not giving money to some one who may or may not use it for good
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Fèlix Misérable

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11/22/2012 10:19 AM
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Re: Christians - are you getting annoyed with your pastors refusing to acknowledge the times?
What is really funny is that most Christians I know love these prosperity pastors. They all think they are going to heaven too. Boy, are they in for a shock.

I truly believe that God will only save a very few. Jesus said it. The road is very narrow and only a FEW go to heaven. Broad is the road to destruction.

Real Christians know that we have to be perfect for God to love us. Don't get me wrong. We do make a few mistakes but when we repent of our sins, we don't backtrack and do them again. After a while, as we get older, we no longer sin because we have repented of every sin and we go and sin no more.

Why would God welcome SINNERS into heaven? He wouldn't. We have to have been perfected before we enter heaven. We are sinless because we have no pride, we have given up all our worldly goods to the poor, we love our enemies dearly, we would give our lives for our enemies, we are not hypocrites, like those Pharisees. We envy no one. We have no greed, lust, we never gossip about others, we are clean on the outside AND the inside.

So that explains why God only saves a few. It takes a lot of work to be perfect. Jesus said, "Be perfect as my father in heaven is perfect." I know I am perfect because God looks at me as sinless. I know all of you are too. Too bad that most of the people in today's churches are going to hell where they will be in torment forever. LOL, oh the irony.
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real christians have to be perfect for good to love us? lol god loves no one huh?
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Fèlix Misérable

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11/22/2012 10:21 AM
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Re: Christians - are you getting annoyed with your pastors refusing to acknowledge the times?
This is how satan has taken over the churches.

and it is true, they preach what people want to hear, not what God wants us to listen to.

God led me to the truth, this site and many others hold it. Not church, they hold whatever the media is saying right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1779676


Amen god leads thoose who ask to truth
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11/22/2012 10:27 AM

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Re: Christians - are you getting annoyed with your pastors refusing to acknowledge the times?
The narrowest path possible is your personal relationship with God. No church can help with much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13284416


grizzy Your personal relationship with the Lord is what it's all about, and a good pastor is one who will be helping you with this, like the one in this story.

WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com]

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