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SCIENTIFIC RECORD OF HUMAN SKELETONS IN MIOCENE (5-20 MYA) - Erased from history!

 
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SCIENTIFIC RECORD OF HUMAN SKELETONS IN MIOCENE (5-20 MYA) - Erased from history!
Recently I heard information about alleged human skeleton fossils that had been dug up in limestone on the Guadaloupe islands in the Caribbean. These fossils were said to have been on display at the British Museum of Natural History in the early 19th century, but were then supposedly removed (or placed in the museum basement) sometime during the advent of Darwinism, because they contradicted the Evolutionary account of human origins.

The limestone in which these human skeletons were discovered is said to be dated in the Miocene Epoch (5-20 million years old) If someone could provide more information on limestone ages, that would be helpful. But this completely contradicts the Evolutionary story of humans evolving from ape ancestors within the last couple million years of the Pleistocene.


I was searching for confirmation of this old museum display, and instead came across a detailed account of the discovered human fossils, in a personal letter addressed to the British Museum in 1813 by a Charles Konig, and documeted in the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London.


In this letter, Konig describes the fossils in painstaking detail, and also addresses the controversial nature of the findings, recognizing that this is an unusually old dated discovery of human remains. He also added detailed drawings.

On a Fossil Human Skeleton from Guadaloupe
Charles Konig 1813


[link to www.jstor.org]

Check out some of what Konig had to say...

The human skeleton imbedded in limestone, lately brought from the Guadaloupe and presented by the Admiralty to the British Museum, having excited the curiosity of the public, I do myself the honour of submitting to you a short account of these fossil remains...

... The vertebrae may be traced along the whole lenght of the column, but are in no part of it well defined. Of the os sacrum, the superior portion only is distinct: It is disunited from the last vertabra and ilium, and driven upwards. The left os ilium is nearly complete, but shattered, and one of the fragments depressed below the level of the rest....

....The whole of the bones, when first laid bare, had a mouldering apperance, and the hard surrounding stone could not be detached without frequently injuring their surface. Sir H.Davy, who subjected a small portion of them to chemical analysis, found that they contained part of their animal matter, and all their phosphate of lime....

... From the composition of the stone, a late period may, perhaps, be assigned to its formation, yet there is nothing in the above description that implies a very recent origin... We know of no limestone being formed as it were under the eyes of men...

... The human bones from Guadaloupe are unquestionably the only bones we are acquainted with that have ever been found imbedded in a hard stony mass, that does not appear to belong to common stalactical calcareous depositions.



(the images are at the end of the letter. you can see how very detailed and precise they are, and obviously of modern human.)

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So this was undoubtedly a very unusual and interesting find that appears to have been addressed to the British Museum, which supports the claim that they were on display there in the early 19th century.

So, why can't I find any record or any other information at all about these amazing human skeleton discoveries?

There are several links to Creationism websites, but it seems all official record of the fossils have been scrubbed from history.

I've even seen a few evolutionist comments about the story being fabricated, though I'm reading the full well-documented report from the Royal Society of London with my own eyes.

I am asking for anyone willing's help in solving this mystery. There definitely has to be concrete evidence out there somewhere that these bones were on display, as well as additional observations and notes.
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This man has the answer:
[link to www.google.com]

Evolution is a lie. Carbon dating is wrong.
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Wow, hope someone knows more and can help out.

Truly fascinating find:)
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OP, I am currently taking a physical anthropology class in college. It's physical anthropology, not cultural anthropology. Physical anthropology is considered a natural science course, unlike cultural anthropology, since physical has a heavy emphasis on biology.

Anyway, this is the most useless painful class I have ever taken. I am not religious and I am certainly not a creationist but I have seen ZERO evidence presented in class or elsewhere that humans evolved from apes. There is no missing link. There is nothing.

The only "evidence" that has been presented is that humans and chimpanzees share 98% of the same DNA. So the fuck what? There is only so much shit on this planet to make stuff from. Of course humans are going to share shit that derives from the shit available with everything else that can exist on this planet. We are all carbon based life... The fact that humans and chimpanzees share 98% of the same DNA (some sources say it's only 92%) means NOTHING. DNA is noting until it is combined in a certain way and THAT is what makes a species what it is.

My instructor acts like the shit she teaches is factual when it reality it's all only theory. That is something else that makes this class painful. Other sciences acknowledge that what is taught is theory. If you point this out to the dumb bitch that teaches my physical anthropology class she acts offended. It's pathetic. I can't wait to give this class a scathing review after I get my final grade.
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This man has the answer:
[link to www.google.com]

Evolution is a lie. Carbon dating is wrong.
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no.
..why don't you take a seat over there
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Really fascinating!!!!! Just skimming through that PDF I see many tidbits of info that could lead to other clues or sources of information.
The drawing is really cool too.
Thanks OP :)
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OP, I am currently taking a physical anthropology class in college. It's physical anthropology, not cultural anthropology. Physical anthropology is considered a natural science course, unlike cultural anthropology, since physical has a heavy emphasis on biology.

Anyway, this is the most useless painful class I have ever taken. I am not religious and I am certainly not a creationist but I have seen ZERO evidence presented in class or elsewhere that humans evolved from apes. There is no missing link. There is nothing.

The only "evidence" that has been presented is that humans and chimpanzees share 98% of the same DNA. So the fuck what? There is only so much shit on this planet to make stuff from. Of course humans are going to share shit that derives from the shit available with everything else that can exist on this planet. We are all carbon based life... The fact that humans and chimpanzees share 98% of the same DNA (some sources say it's only 92%) means NOTHING. DNA is noting until it is combined in a certain way and THAT is what makes a species what it is.

My instructor acts like the shit she teaches is factual when it reality it's all only theory. That is something else that makes this class painful. Other sciences acknowledge that what is taught is theory. If you point this out to the dumb bitch that teaches my physical anthropology class she acts offended. It's pathetic. I can't wait to give this class a scathing review after I get my final grade.
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My advice: Kiss her ass and hang on her every word. Act as if you are taking everything she says in and really processing it. These people are ego-maniacs fully absorbed in the Big Lie. This is the only reason she has a job at a University in the first place. Stay after and ask stupid or ask what she's currently reading so you can read it too. You'll get a great grade and improve your GPA. You're already in the system, don't buck it...master the game and GTFO.
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Moab man was found in the same layer as dinosaurs
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I have always thought that Man had been around alot longer than our Historians and scientists tell us. Thank you for a very interesting thread.
Live and let live.
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this little story doesn't do the earth is few thousnd years old creationists much good.


it also isn't recorded by science as one opinion , or even a few opinions , don't count

freshwater can dissolve limestone.

the undated bones could have been a few hundered years old .
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Scientists, geneticists and anthropologists are trying to cover up the FACT that the Human species is far more ancient than the Neanderthal, Denisovan, and other so-called "archaics" -- which are actually more recent sub-Human HYBRIDS. They don't want the general public to know that all of those various Hybrids were >> articicially created << by breeding female Human ~slaves~ with male Apes and Rhesus monkeys... The same way that MULES and other domesticated hybrids have been bred.

They want us to believe that those Hybrids (like the Neanderthal) preceded Humans; they want us to believe that Humans evolved from them -- but that's a lie; we did not evolve from them, although many or most "Anatomically Modern Humans" are indeed DESCENDED from those creatures, as proven by DNA studies.

Evolution is not the same as Descent; but those two terms are often confused and used interchangibly. TPTB are exploiting that and other language issues, in order to promote their LIES and COVER-UPS. I discovered this truth about Human genetics and origins, quite by accident -- while researching my own DNA.
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The only "evidence" that has been presented is that humans and chimpanzees share 98% of the same DNA. So the fuck what? There is only so much shit on this planet to make stuff from. Of course humans are going to share shit that derives from the shit available with everything else that can exist on this planet. We are all carbon based life... The fact that humans and chimpanzees share 98% of the same DNA (some sources say it's only 92%) means NOTHING. DNA is noting until it is combined in a certain way and THAT is what makes a species what it is.
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The supposed "98% similarity of humans and chimps" is deceptively based only on a small section of protein coding genes. More widespread comparisons across larger portions of the genome have revealed human - chimp genetic similarity to be more around 80%-90%. And yep, so what?

If you really want to get a good idea of all the genotype and phenotype differences between humans and apes, check this site out.

[link to carta.anthropogeny.org]

The list of differences is endless. We are NOTHING like chimps.

The academic world is heavily indoctrinated into the official evolution story, to the point that it has taken on a religious nature, and is heretical to question. There are so many extreme problems with Evolution.

We don't even observe the evolution of A SINGLE novel protein that the original species did not already code for, in 50,000 generations of bacteria. And yet we are asked to believe what starts as a fish, can end up as a human given enough time and enough mystical unseen transformations.
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this little story doesn't do the earth is few thousnd years old creationists much good.


it also isn't recorded by science as one opinion , or even a few opinions , don't count

freshwater can dissolve limestone.

the undated bones could have been a few hundered years old .
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"isn't recorded by science" what is that supposed to mean? It is an officially documented letter, containing many corroborating information and sources, recorded as received and read by the British Museum of Natural history in 1814.


Water can dissolve many things, what's your point? The fossils were found intact in the hard layer of limestone. Please be more specific.

There are some detailed notes in the letter on how the damage to the bones reflected the nature of sedimentary formation around it which you may find interesting.

I think these limestone beds are dated to atleast 5 million years in the Miocene, but I would appreciate anyone who is more knowledgeable.


Please be more specific with your comments, though. I am interested to hear any reasoned opinions.
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Thank you for this post OP. I dont trust those vaccinations and happen to work in a pediatrics clinic and notice a trend. I have two young kidos and its good to know that ND has a religious and philisophical exemption with vaccinations. I was gonna pull the religious flag even though I am not but when I saw the philisophical, was excited that I dont have to lie and use that to prevent force vaccinations to my kidos. Hopefully these rights are not taken from us ever. I really feel for the moms who ended having disabled children cause of this genocide. Assholes. Pisses me off that these selfish pieces of shit would allow harmful substances on people. I hope karma gets them in the amount that they hurt each individual from forcing this upon them.
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Another truth that they're actively covering up (with a lot of intimidation from the American Govt.), is the FACT that the earliest Human remains yet found on North America -- are CAUCASOID. The Windover Mummies in Florida, and other such finds, have been shoved way back into the darkest part of the research closet.

That really angers me, because my own ancient Caucasoid mtDNA was inherited through my Cherokee lineage; and because of the politics concerning race, my NA heritage is rudely denied by them (scientists, government bureaucrats, and even some tribalists). Their only intent is to exclude ANY and ALL Caucasoid DNA from the tribal rolls, regardless of the injustice and the scientific/historical inaccuracies... so, it's racist.

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