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Windows 8 is doing so bad they have to bring back the start button

 
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Windows 8 is meant for touch screen systems, that is why it is shit with a usual screen and mouse. It is out too soon and aimed at everyone even without touch screen systems.
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They pushed this turd out just In time for Xmas
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They pushed this turd out just In time for Xmas
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Isn't that like when you go to take a shit a few hours before you normally do? It always makes for a bad dump. I guess we can think of Windows 8 as a dump before it's time.
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Re: Windows 8 is doing so bad they have to bring back the start button
Now that former Windows Division president Steven Sinofsky is out of the picture, there's speculation that Microsoft may add the traditional Start menu back into the Windows platform. Currently Microsoft isn't commenting on the subject, but an article published by USA Today points to the possibility.

[link to www.tomshardware.com]

What a total flop and failure.
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This is true DOOM for millions of 'Mericans that use WINDOZE.


LOOSERS, LULZ


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I can remember 15 years ago when people were complaining about how stupid it was that you have to use the Start button to turn the computer off. Now people can't live without it...
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they have a free start button add-on in the mix at
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Re: Windows 8 is doing so bad they have to bring back the start button
Now that former Windows Division president Steven Sinofsky is out of the picture, there's speculation that Microsoft may add the traditional Start menu back into the Windows platform. Currently Microsoft isn't commenting on the subject, but an article published by USA Today points to the possibility.

[link to www.tomshardware.com]

What a total flop and failure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20703248


Windows 8 sucks. Why was Microsoft in such a hurry to replace Windows 7? Windows 7 actually works and is not a pile of shit like Vista. Vista has become the Windows ME of the modern age. The only operating systems that Windows had that actually were worth a shit are Windows 95/98, Windows XP SP3, and Windows 7.

When Windows XP first came out it was a piece of shit, too. By SP3, almost the entire OS had been reprogrammed. Windows ME was a total disaster. At times, not even my Networking and Telecomm professor in college could get it to work right during class demonstrations. Windows Vista was another useless OS that no one wanted. It was harder to operate than its predecessor XP and had no better features. Finally, they get a decent level of success with Windows 7 and they replace it with a worthless pile of shit, Windows 8. Microsoft is a total joke now.
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I like your style! :)
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Sorry windows 2000 was the best. Before that i always used windows NT4 cuz the 9x kernels were horrid.

Windows 8 ill use win7 till end of life than switch to linux since ms cant make a good os anymore.
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It was developed with tablets in mind. It sucks.
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Bringing tablets for the money driven golden calf worshipers always was a tough sell.
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Re: Windows 8 is doing so bad they have to bring back the start button
Now that former Windows Division president Steven Sinofsky is out of the picture, there's speculation that Microsoft may add the traditional Start menu back into the Windows platform. Currently Microsoft isn't commenting on the subject, but an article published by USA Today points to the possibility.

[link to www.tomshardware.com]

What a total flop and failure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20703248


LOL. No start button?

every version of windows up to now, could have easily been added on to windows 95.

But it's cause they want to make money by pretending everything is so new all the time. Like the latest iphone line up for that.

consumerism capitalism, scam.
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Windows 8 is fine for tablets, horrible if you use desktop.

You wouldn't use a phone OS to run your computer, so don't use a tab OS to do the same.
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It's a fine OS. They cleaned up a lot of annoyances from W7. It works fine on a desktop. W7 was boring.
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It's a fine OS. They cleaned up a lot of annoyances from W7. It works fine on a desktop. W7 was boring.
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How much does Microsoft pay you to post???

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It's a fine OS. They cleaned up a lot of annoyances from W7. It works fine on a desktop. W7 was boring.
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How much does Microsoft pay you to post???

koolaidsheep
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Nothing. I am a software developer. The KoolAid drinkers here are anti-MS.

kool_aid

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It's a fine OS. They cleaned up a lot of annoyances from W7. It works fine on a desktop. W7 was boring.
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How much does Microsoft pay you to post???

koolaidsheep
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Nothing. I am a software developer. The KoolAid drinkers here are anti-MS.

kool_aid
 Quoting: Instant Karma


I love MS products....most of the time...and make good money on them.

...but THIS abortion called Win8 is like Vista and Win98ME.

Kiss it buh bye real fast.


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Re: Windows 8 is doing so bad they have to bring back the start button
I like it. I wouldn't mind the start menu back, but a lot of the under the hood changes are nice and I've gotten used to the start bar. People just don't like change, and like something to rant about and stir up drama.

I was particularly impressed how it seemed to find drivers for everything including my wireless networked printer, how fast it installed and how painless it was to get things going, and how they included microsoft security essentials antivirus by default.

If you have a netbook with windows 7, windows 8 will be a nice speed improvement.

Give it more time. You can pin all the same crap to the start bar that you had on the start menu, and you have the whole screen to use to choose your program, instead of a little menu. It's nice once you tweak it.. and yes powerusers do have to tweak things out of the box.
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I like it. I wouldn't mind the start menu back, but a lot of the under the hood changes are nice and I've gotten used to the start bar. People just don't like change, and like something to rant about and stir up drama.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


People and corps don't like spending MILLIONS and MILLIONS to retrain work forces and be FORCED to buy new software upgrades for BILLIONS on top of the OS costs....all for the simple reason of Microsoft's business model for making money.

You are sooooooo naive.

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I like it. I wouldn't mind the start menu back, but a lot of the under the hood changes are nice and I've gotten used to the start bar. People just don't like change, and like something to rant about and stir up drama.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


People and corps don't like spending MILLIONS and MILLIONS to retrain work forces and be FORCED to buy new software upgrades for BILLIONS on top of the OS costs....all for the simple reason of Microsoft's business model for making money.

You are sooooooo naive.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


I'll say it again, people just don't like change. I was against the start bar at first, but if a person takes an hour or two to learn it, it's really not that hard to figure out.

Plus nobody is forcing businesses to use the latest version of windows. They can use the old versions. It takes most of them a decade to finally upgrade as it is.

Microsoft offered this OS as cheap as they've ever offered one to individuals... $15 or $40 for the product keys which can be clean installed. It's admittedly the first time in my life I've ever bought more than one product key for any windows product, I've pirated most of them up until windows 7.

If I could get the entire population to switch from the outdated qwerty keyboard layout to colemak, I would, because it's just better. Unfortunately we'll be using qwerty until we no longer use keyboards because people won't relearn things.
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I like it. I wouldn't mind the start menu back, but a lot of the under the hood changes are nice and I've gotten used to the start bar. People just don't like change, and like something to rant about and stir up drama.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


People and corps don't like spending MILLIONS and MILLIONS to retrain work forces and be FORCED to buy new software upgrades for BILLIONS on top of the OS costs....all for the simple reason of Microsoft's business model for making money.

You are sooooooo naive.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


I'll say it again, people just don't like change. I was against the start bar at first, but if a person takes an hour or two to learn it, it's really not that hard to figure out.

Plus nobody is forcing businesses to use the latest version of windows. They can use the old versions. It takes most of them a decade to finally upgrade as it is.


Microsoft offered this OS as cheap as they've ever offered one to individuals... $15 or $40 for the product keys which can be clean installed. It's admittedly the first time in my life I've ever bought more than one product key for any windows product, I've pirated most of them up until windows 7.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


From what I highlighted....

YOU JUST PROVED YOURSELF.... YES....they are FORCED eventually to upgrade.
smlaugh

Why should a company refit their ENTIRE operations with new software when all the older stuff works fine??...and have to retrain EVERYONE on the new software?...and buy NEW software to work on the new OS ?

100% unnecessary costs unless FORCED to comply...and that is EXACTLY what Microsofts business model is....FORCED upgrades to new O/S'es that are much different than the old OS's.


You have MUCH to learn gringo.


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I don't own a business so I really am not as heated about that issue as you. I will leave the business aspect in your capable hands. I'm an individual user here typing while laying in bed here. peace

As for upgrading, well yes, people should not be using 10 year old hardware and 10 year old operating systems. It's called technological advancement and progress.
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Can anyone sell me a cheap copy of Windows 7 if you have upgraded? Thank You.
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Free solution: Classicshell (sourceforge)
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I don't own a business so I really am not as heated about that issue as you. I will leave the business aspect in your capable hands. I'm an individual user here typing while laying in bed here. peace

As for upgrading, well yes, people should not be using 10 year old hardware and 10 year old operating systems. It's called technological advancement and progress.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


I hear this OVER and OVER from businesses I support....and I always give them options so they DONT have to spend money on forced upgrades.

As for 10 years....most companies turn over physical PC assets every 5 years MAX....but O/S'es are tied to operations and custom built software for those O/S models.
Upgrading them is not called PROGRESS crazy ....it's called HARDSHIP and WASTED MONEY.
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I used a beta version of Win 8 and was so happy after I had installed Win 7 over it and the damn thing was gone. No shutdown button, jeez!
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Window button + I
True, It was not easy to find that one.
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I hate fucking tablets and if that's an OS made with tablets in mind Im certainly gonna stay away from it.

W7 was a very good thing though, I was in love with it since first encounter. I liked ubuntu too but I spent more time reading tutorials than actually using it so it had to go.
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i heard windows 8 is faster than windows 7 though...
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I don't own a business so I really am not as heated about that issue as you. I will leave the business aspect in your capable hands. I'm an individual user here typing while laying in bed here. peace

As for upgrading, well yes, people should not be using 10 year old hardware and 10 year old operating systems. It's called technological advancement and progress.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


I hear this OVER and OVER from businesses I support....and I always give them options so they DONT have to spend money on forced upgrades.

As for 10 years....most companies turn over physical PC assets every 5 years MAX....but O/S'es are tied to operations and custom built software for those O/S models.
Upgrading them is not called PROGRESS crazy ....it's called HARDSHIP and WASTED MONEY.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


you do have a point, sir. I can see how that would be irritating. If I swap out a video card and now I have to call microsoft because I'm no longer activated, yes it's quite irritating. :) It was this irritation combined with having to speak to a rep over the phone I could barely understand try to spout off a long list of letters and numbers so I could reactivate, that led me to pirating windows as long as I did. Activation crack means no hassle.

However they did a lot of things that sped up windows 8 compared to windows 7 so I'm still nonetheless pleased. I like the under the hood changes. I like how easy it finds drivers, how seamless the whole process went for myself.

This is coming from someone running a 'local account' and not using any apps... hahaha.. oh well.
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Just looking at it I would not buy it. Never had a problem upgrading before but I don't want my desktop to act like a mobile device. I will keep 7 until 8 is dead and gone.

It's like stupid coke .... When they made new coke and Pepsi when they made clear Pepsi.

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What, you didn't like new Coke?
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I don't own a business so I really am not as heated about that issue as you. I will leave the business aspect in your capable hands. I'm an individual user here typing while laying in bed here. peace

As for upgrading, well yes, people should not be using 10 year old hardware and 10 year old operating systems. It's called technological advancement and progress.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


I hear this OVER and OVER from businesses I support....and I always give them options so they DONT have to spend money on forced upgrades.

As for 10 years....most companies turn over physical PC assets every 5 years MAX....but O/S'es are tied to operations and custom built software for those O/S models.
Upgrading them is not called PROGRESS crazy ....it's called HARDSHIP and WASTED MONEY.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


you do have a point, sir. I can see how that would be irritating. If I swap out a video card and now I have to call microsoft because I'm no longer activated, yes it's quite irritating. :) It was this irritation combined with having to speak to a rep over the phone I could barely understand try to spout off a long list of letters and numbers so I could reactivate, that led me to pirating windows as long as I did. Activation crack means no hassle.

However they did a lot of things that sped up windows 8 compared to windows 7 so I'm still nonetheless pleased. I like the under the hood changes. I like how easy it finds drivers, how seamless the whole process went for myself.

This is coming from someone running a 'local account' and not using any apps... hahaha.. oh well.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


I know you are talking about a gaming console...but businesses are doing this as well.
They ask for engineered solutions AROUND the forced requirements so they can get another 5 or 6 years out of the old stuff....especially in this economy.
They stay legal as far as licensing....but circumvent the forced upgrades.
VMware is one of the many great tools for this process....and there are other sneaky ways as well.

Bad economy...and going to get worse.... means Microsoft is going to have a tough sell jamming massively flawed Win8 to corporate and SMB environments.

Good luck with that Microsoft.

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Bought a new laptop with 8 on it Saturday.

VERY steep learning curve coming from XP.
But I'm finding that all the control panel and tweaky stuff seems to be there.
But I don't have to mess with it at all!
I turned it on and it connected to my wifi without having to go into all sorts of menus.
I don't feel like I have to manage anything. It just works.
And I have yet to see a "Contact your administrator to fix this problem" message.

And I have the choice to use Tiles or a more traditional desktop as the main working area. Pretty cool.

I'm growing to like it very much.

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