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Pope Warns of Doomsday, 21 December 2012? Is there doom around the corner they are planning or something to this date afterall?

 
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POPE CALLS ON FAITHFULS TO IGNORE DOOMSDAY WARNINGS


VATICAN CITY—Pope Benedict XVI called on Christians Sunday not to heed doomsday warnings that the world will end on December 21.

During his weekly Angelus address from the window of his Vatican apartments on Saint Peter’s Square, Benedict spoke of extracts from the bible which speak of “the sun and moon going out, the stars falling from the sky.”

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I didnt know there could be much more to this date or a doomsday scenario when I made this thread.

Thread: Foretold Floodings, Ice-Age, Magnetic Reversal and more....E.T. Contactees Messages (Video Collection & Analysis).


Now the Pope is warning people not to freak out over a doomsday scenario? Is there one around the corner they have cooked up? Not that the Mayans and other Ancient cultures talk about doom but is the Pope telling his followers to ignore every other warnings or supposed myths out there but stick only to those he tells them of or published in their books? He somewhat knows enough to know that a doomsday date such as Dec 21, is not real , not important, yet no one knows the date or the hour?

Perhaps he knows something then about astrological cycles than he is saying or not published in their books if he is able to rule out a date. Perhaps he knows something might occur on this date or around this period and he is trying to allay the fears of his followers so that they ignore this event or its relevance and only stick to the jesus program of his.

After all, if no one knows the hour or the time, I would simply keep shut and not dismiss or rule out any date which could potentially make him risk his credibility. After all, for all you may know, those people shouting at the top of their longs that the world is coming to an end could possibly be right. Perhaps they were spiritually contacted by jesus or an angel (who knows?). Yet the Pope stuck his neck out, risked his reputation, to dismiss these statements? Something is up folks!


He goes on further to reference the bible and speaks of "Sun and Moon not rising and stars falling from the sky"? Now, why would he on one hand say people shouldnt worry about doomsday scenarios but on the other hand quote from the bible and allude to scenarios of sun and moon not giving their light widely related to Dec 21 supposedly only spoken of by ancient cultures and conspiracy theorists? It is very interesting he is talking about Darkness? Will this happen in the vey near future?


Its like telling you but not actually telling you and since they have convinced their followers not to follow dates, well, they can claim there was nothing to this event when it occurs or and that jesus is the main event they should all be concerned with. Alternatively, they could simply state in the aftermath of any event that they didn't know after all. But who looses most by not paying attention to all the possible scenarios events you know nothing of and the date it will happen and/or how things could possibly play out, could potentially happen? The individual! And you will be at their mercy after this happens. Enough odd events like Israel trying to start a global war, governments buying ammo and MREs, passing Executive Orders etc... have happened for us to know that something is up or isn't quite right. But we are just supposed to carry on like everything is dandy? Yeah, right!

But what if you knew about the religious agenda and the ancients' take on things relating to this planet in this particular time frame not published in the religious books, how would you perceive the pope's mention of a doomsday scenario and his comments? What would you make of it? If he is also an arm of the antichrist as most people believe, I would presume that not informing people about events or perhaps diverting their attention away from a significant date or events attached to that date or a time frame ancient cultures speak of, can only be to his own advantage, wont it?

It would have made more sense for him not to talk about it at all.

And just as a litmus test, what is his stance on 9/11? That it occurred just as exactly as we've been told? That the wars waged in the aftermath are justified? That the future ones about to be waged on the hoax War on Terror that could possibly escalate into a WW3 scenario which the religious books so much speak of is equally valid? Yeah right! Seems he's mute on all those points as it plays into his and their agenda. And we can not also rule out that his statement about sticking to the bible/jesus isn't part of their agenda, because it is. Their agenda in all this is to get you to jesus whilst you accepting the wars even though they are based on fraud and lies as building 7 collapse have taught us.

If the US is going to be involved in this current/future Israel escalation, it would also have to be provoked by another False Flag, another hoax, but the pope wants you to believe this when it occurs and also believe in the retaliatory war that it is a warranted response to the provocation of the US which will later blow out of proportion. And with all these muddled thoughts of their followers, they falling prey to deception and even being complicit in murders, innocent deaths, killings and injustice, jesus will still save you regardless and somehow accept them into his kingdom as he is the one you are keeping your eye on? I don't really think so.

You really need to start questioning who this jesus you are all waiting for is because he is appearing to be no more than a devil (and please forget all those fictional stories you've allowed your minds to be placated and programmed with). We are talking here about the real thing...about the outcome of an event if everything plays out as the pope and his minions are currently herding the world into.



People are either oblivious or wilfully ignorant as to how their minds are being enslaved? Another further litmus test on why the Pope should make the Dec 21 hit mainstream news - Did the collapse of building 7 hit MSM? Do they discuss it? After all it is all conspiratorial talk and not true, right? Going by that logic, if the Dec 21 date is nothing after all, then why even mention it?

I think there may be something to this the Dec. 21 date after all or at the very least a Global Event (possibly the 3 days of Darkness) is in our immediate future and you should all try to make sense of it, keep on asking questions and remain watchful. I think it may be a spiritual event and many people might not even know when this occurs as they have simply not been paying attention or have remained closed minded about other scenarios but following only their religious leaders and programming.

Kaoru Nakamaru warns, at the beginning of this year of Dec 21, 2012, that there will be a blackout and Governments wont say anything about it.

I covered a lot of things in the thread above and it goes into the political arena and why they are making these manuevres they do with global warming and what have you. Does anyone also remember the globe sculpture in Rome and the UN that appears to have been struck by a massive earthquake? Now why would they put something like that in those places? Do they know of the aftermath of an event to occur in future?

If you havent been paying attention all this while, I think its time you do and I have to say this to religious folks......you are all under a spell and have been duped. The bible is an agenda and you can tell even at this very time how Israel trying to start a World War. You have very little time to wake up from this mind control system.


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I told you guys this Pope is on a roll and that we haven't heard or seen the last of him yet. I covered this development in this thread.

First it was that the calendars are wrong.
Next is that Christians should ignore doomsday warnings but focus on jesus.
Next is him calling for a NWO and a Moral authority.
Now he joins twitter on 12/12/12? (Thanks to Indysmindy for bringing the significance of this date to my attention). This alone can't be a coincidence.

[link to www.cnn.com]

And all these within a space of about 3 weeks? A build up to what is about to occur on the 21st or soon afterwards? He seems to be featuring in the media a lot lately and I wonder why?

In the face of what could potentially occur on the 21st of December or afterwards, and the sea of unaware masses of the world as to developments in the last 10 years or since the exposure of 9/11, and now suddenly getting a RUDE AWAKENING ......are these moves by the Pope to:

Poise himself ahead of time and Act as the spiritual guidance and counsel in these times when people will be absolutely lost and seeking answers as to what is truly going on? I would presume joining twitter is also a logical move to take if you knew things are cooking. Considering the fact that twitter is the fastest and possibly one of the most accessible means of communication available today with a reach of many millions, if not billions of people worldwide?

Also in light of the fact that if indeed they are cooking doom, this will be compartmentalised and experienced at different levels around the world and that there will hardly be any mainstream coverage as power and other infrastructure could potentially be down or sabotaged in many areas of the world.

In such a situation, having any kind of information from someone as the pope or anyone for that matter explaining to the masses what is going on will prove invaluable. They will easily believe or be reassured and in the process have their minds moulded.

I think something is up. What is he gonna do next? Who knows but he's certainly given himself mainstream mass coverage in the last few weeks enough to get noticed.


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We all cant deny something is cooking worldwide especially from the middle east, the current senate resolution of a no fly zone over syria etc.

With all the unrest in the world, the Army taking a christmas break, Operation Blackjack in Play and the unaware masses knowing something is wrong, searching for clues but nonetheless tuned in to something happening soon, this might be an opportunity for the PTB to pull off an end of the world scenario. When you also consider the fact that if some great event is in stock on that date, diverting the attention of the world from the true significance of that date/event would be the ideal thing to do.

After all, you cant blame TPTB for not knowing a decapitating multiple False Flags can go off in major cities around the world that cripples the world economies and sends it into a spiral of what will later be known as the beginning of the end?

The impact and unprecedented response of war and economic collapse this sort of scenario will create will leave no doubt in anyone's mind that the world has actually come to an end. To an extent, it wont be the government's fault if such a thing were to happen (or so they would say, even though they are the ones playing out this agenda) and the prophecies or hype about this date will equally be true only that it would have people looking in the wrong direction of what these developments actually mean.

The Pope, NASA and more recently the government are all reassuring people not to worry about the 21st of December. Not only shouldn't people be worried about this govt. intervention but how on earth can they guarantee or promise anything? Do they have the whole world in their grasp and in control of everyone's thoughts and emotions to know that something wont happpen?

How could they be so certain? Why did they even deem it fit to respond to conspiracy theorists? On the backside of this, if indeed nothing does happen, are we expected to now make government our new religion, that we become something that can easily be moulded by their press releases and reassurances? That they now know ALL things and they can say, "see we told you not to worry". Do you honestly think the world can descend into such depths where we have that kind of relationship between the masses and government that they can now tell us when to poo, like we are in kindergarten?

I would argue that the world hasn't reached that stage yet although they are in the process of making it such. There are still people who have a mind of their own and these are the sorts of people they intend to weed out hence the very relevance of the hype of 2012 and their reassurance of the date being a non event as it now gives them an opportunity to stage something to be blamed on radicals.

If indeed something does happen, doomsday occultists with ties to terrorists will in turn be blamed for this event as depicted in operation blackjack slides below.

This [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] and this [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] and this [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] is connected to this [link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

If the Mayans are right and the gods (our full souls with full psychic abilities) are returning on this date, if indeed thoughts create reality and we are on the verge of experiencing the greatest revelation or realisation in the history of mankind, I would assume creating the biggest diversion. FF or chaos at this time to manifest the greatest disaster that could possibly be imagined to checkmate this awareness of ours will be to the advantage of the PTB. The ensuing chaos will overshadow the relevance of the actual event taking place on that date and the response of war and collapse of society will leave no doubt on people's mind that the world has actually come to an end.

Please do not buy into the fear if this happens to occur. This is what all this is about....to prepare your minds for what is coming and what they could do to derail mankind.


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UPDATE:

Ok, this statement is quite a contradictory one supposedly made by a NASA scientist on 2012.

[link to www.business-standard.com]

World won't end on December 21: NASA scientists


Quashing the 'doomsday' rumours, top NASA scientists have assured that the world won't end on December 21, 2012.

"The world will not end in 2012. Our planet has been getting along just fine for more than 4 billion years, and credible scientists worldwide know of no threat associated with 2012," NASA said on its website.

Did you catch that? Now, see what he said at the ending of the publication.

On danger of Earth being hit by a meteor in 2012, scientists said that NASA astronomers are carrying out a study called the Spaceguard Survey to find any large near-Earth asteroids long before they hit.

"The last big impact was 65 million years ago, and that led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. We have already determined that there are no threatening asteroids as large as the one that killed the dinosaurs," they said.


So, on one hand, he is saying that there is no threat but on the other hand he is saying that they have this committee setup to look into asteroid impacts and that there is a chance we have asteroid impacts but they wont be as large as the ones that made dinosaurs extinct? If indeed anything does occur, it will be interesting that it just so happens in the very month and year the Mayans and ancient cultures speak of? Consider also the pope's statement about "Stars falling from the sky". Make of this what you want. Just providing info.


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no just to build some hype
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Really? Well, you should watch this. Monty in this video says some of his friends are being told by their clergy men that they shouldn't freak out just in case the sun decides not to rise on the 21 Dec 2012. Now, isn't that strange?


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The one star bandit without any contribution or critique why the pope would make such a statement strikes again. If there is nothing to it, why mention it to allay people of their fears. Why mention it to keep them in the dogma? Why mention it and even make reference to the sun and moon going down and stars falling from the sky if its all BS.

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The one star bandit without any contribution or critique why the pope would make such a statement strikes again. If there is nothing to it, why mention it to allay people of their fears. Why mention it to keep them in the dogma? Why mention it and even make reference to the sun and moon going down and stars falling from the sky if its all BS.
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because it will reach to certain people, like you for exampple, and the fact you are talking about this is automatic bs ,
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The one star bandit without any contribution or critique why the pope would make such a statement strikes again. If there is nothing to it, why mention it to allay people of their fears. Why mention it to keep them in the dogma? Why mention it and even make reference to the sun and moon going down and stars falling from the sky if its all BS.
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because it will reach to certain people, like you for exampple, and the fact you are talking about this is automatic bs ,
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Some things could be very hard for some people to grasp. The financial system collapse is being orchestrated and held up for a reason....for an event. I think that should be obvious to people by now. I would think any reasonable person would question what that event is that they want to collapse their system, which isn't threatened and could still enslave the masses for another millenia.

But I guess none of this is an issue. LOL!!! Nothing I believe is wrong is questioning unless you are trying to deviate people from the truth they might unravel in the line of their questioning.
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does he include the warnings in the bible ?
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does he include the warnings in the bible ?
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"During his weekly Angelus address from the window of his Vatican apartments on Saint Peter’s Square, Benedict spoke of extracts from the bible which speak of “the sun and moon going out, the stars falling from the sky.”

Source: [link to newsinfo.inquirer.net]


For anyone who hast been paying attention with all the government preparations, buying MREs, Hollow point Ammo, signing more powers to DHS, Executive Orders, Obama's psalm 46 reading of last year etc. all of this might mean nothing. I'll leave people to decide what this could possibly mean.

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OH! C'MON OP!!



didnt you read the article???

The Pope, reaching out to CATHOLICS and CHRISTIANS, was "merely" "just sayin" ....

"We know not the hour or the day"

Ya know?


For all of those/us that BELIEVE in the Bible, Jesus, the saints and the apostles, Heaven and hell, eternity, and all the things that are christian, this is a message to all to reaffirm your faith, to strenghthen your resolve against the face of diversify, to gather your sheep and be happy, knowing that there is one God, who has told us, that the hour and the day are known only to Him, and that He will come when He is good and bloody ready to, If the world was going to "end" this coming december, (on the 21st ffs) dont you think the upheaval in the world would be just a Tad more upheavily??

Where are the erupting cataclysmic volcanoes?, where is the world war three?? Have we run out of petrol yet?? or oil??

No, what we have got is a lot of CONCERN for our planet which is most definately in a state of disrepair, yea verily we need some damn maintanence. We are certainly living in very different times, times that have "perhaps" never occured before.
This does not mean its over. As Churchill said "this is not the end, it is not the begining of the end, but it is perhaps, the end of the begining"
This quote says it all to me, as much as I would dearly love to see Jesus coming on the clouds, and one day maybe I will, I also am not so stupid as to take a bunch of very ancient pagan thoughts, and even think about compareing that with our modern day science, arts, and culture.

We are evolving or we are not.

Either way we are progressing, regardless of anything.

This progression has been ongoing since the dawn of time.

I see no reason to put ANY faith in "2012" so called "prophecy"

The bible tells you EVERYTHING. and there is no mention of 2012.

We, as surviving members of humanity, looking to the future as a almost scary thing. We see with our own eyes the damage we are reeking on the world. We also see war. Ever civilisation has seen war as war is as human as love.
There have allways been wars, if its a case of a tribe fighting another tribe, or a land of people journeying to fight another, its allways been and will allways be.

We will survive because thats what we do.

And the world will be subdued, because thats what we were told to do, "go forth and multiply, subdue the earth"

Yep, check and check.

Gods plan, for his own reason, on which we may speculate but never be sure, involves pain. The heartache of loss, the anguish of a childs death, the suffering of the disables and blind and deaf.
Pain, pain, and more pain.
"Suffer little children to come unto me"

You know how you take a panadol when youve got a hangover and, and after a while the pounding in your head stops and you say "well thank God at least thats stopped"

Id say gods plan is a little like that, makes us suffer in our jocks and then give us the great holy panadol, to take away our pain.

So our lives really are governed by pain, we feel good, we are happy, we dont feel good we are not. Simple.

There is much more pain to come. Much much more, and lots and lots and lots and lots of misery, with a good dashing of blood, and sadness, and lots of other shit.

If 2012 was real, then what then? We suddenly have no idea what the hells going on. Everything people have lived and died for was for nothing. The whole idea of course, is hardly worth thinking about as it rules out anything we know and replaces it with nothing.

so to summerise, fuck 2012, and start living everybody, love the people around you, do the right thing, be nice to your mother, and well, really, just start living its really easy.

And dont pay any attention to the new age enlightenment brigade because they are just making it up as they go.

They really are.

trust me, Im a doctor...........
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Really? Well, you should watch this. Monty in this video says some of his friends are being told by their clergy men that they shouldn't freak out just in case the sun decides not to rise on the 21 Dec 2012. Now, isn't that strange?



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Monty the CIA PsyOP stooge, piece of shit.
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Pope is saying there's nothing to this hype.
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OH! C'MON OP!!



didnt you read the article???

The Pope, reaching out to CATHOLICS and CHRISTIANS, was "merely" "just sayin" ....

"We know not the hour or the day"

Ya know?


For all of those/us that BELIEVE in the Bible, Jesus, the saints and the apostles, Heaven and hell, eternity, and all the things that are christian, this is a message to all to reaffirm your faith, to strenghthen your resolve against the face of diversify, to gather your sheep and be happy, knowing that there is one God, who has told us, that the hour and the day are known only to Him, and that He will come when He is good and bloody ready to, If the world was going to "end" this coming december, (on the 21st ffs) dont you think the upheaval in the world would be just a Tad more upheavily??

Where are the erupting cataclysmic volcanoes?, where is the world war three?? Have we run out of petrol yet?? or oil??

No, what we have got is a lot of CONCERN for our planet which is most definately in a state of disrepair, yea verily we need some damn maintanence. We are certainly living in very different times, times that have "perhaps" never occured before.
This does not mean its over. As Churchill said "this is not the end, it is not the begining of the end, but it is perhaps, the end of the begining"
This quote says it all to me, as much as I would dearly love to see Jesus coming on the clouds, and one day maybe I will, I also am not so stupid as to take a bunch of very ancient pagan thoughts, and even think about compareing that with our modern day science, arts, and culture.

We are evolving or we are not.

Either way we are progressing, regardless of anything.

This progression has been ongoing since the dawn of time.

I see no reason to put ANY faith in "2012" so called "prophecy"

The bible tells you EVERYTHING. and there is no mention of 2012.

We, as surviving members of humanity, looking to the future as a almost scary thing. We see with our own eyes the damage we are reeking on the world. We also see war. Ever civilisation has seen war as war is as human as love.
There have allways been wars, if its a case of a tribe fighting another tribe, or a land of people journeying to fight another, its allways been and will allways be.

We will survive because thats what we do.

And the world will be subdued, because thats what we were told to do, "go forth and multiply, subdue the earth"

Yep, check and check.

Gods plan, for his own reason, on which we may speculate but never be sure, involves pain. The heartache of loss, the anguish of a childs death, the suffering of the disables and blind and deaf.
Pain, pain, and more pain.
"Suffer little children to come unto me"

You know how you take a panadol when youve got a hangover and, and after a while the pounding in your head stops and you say "well thank God at least thats stopped"

Id say gods plan is a little like that, makes us suffer in our jocks and then give us the great holy panadol, to take away our pain.

So our lives really are governed by pain, we feel good, we are happy, we dont feel good we are not. Simple.

There is much more pain to come. Much much more, and lots and lots and lots and lots of misery, with a good dashing of blood, and sadness, and lots of other shit.

If 2012 was real, then what then? We suddenly have no idea what the hells going on. Everything people have lived and died for was for nothing. The whole idea of course, is hardly worth thinking about as it rules out anything we know and replaces it with nothing.

so to summerise, fuck 2012, and start living everybody, love the people around you, do the right thing, be nice to your mother, and well, really, just start living its really easy.

And dont pay any attention to the new age enlightenment brigade because they are just making it up as they go.

They really are.

trust me, Im a doctor...........
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I know what you are getting at and I've been past that stage. To me now, all these things they say and do e.g like Israel trying to start a World War, is in anticipation of something they know of coming. Have you come across the globe in ruins in front of the UN and Rome? Now, why would they put something like that there?

I have since said that the financial system is being held up for a global event they know that is coming that will collapse it anyway and change the face of this earth forever and make people value or weigh something much more important than the paper money they are chasing after.

Just to put things into perspective, the financial system is being held up by the faith in it. How would you value this faith in the system in the face of a global event like an ice age or massive global flooding? The system simply falls apart on its own as people struggle to survive and worry more about their safety than about money. So the controllers know something is coming and are prepared for it.
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Pope calls on faithful to ignore doomsday warnings

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:grizzy: Christians should not be paying any attention to what that evil man and his false church say.

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OH! C'MON OP!!



didnt you read the article???

The Pope, reaching out to CATHOLICS and CHRISTIANS, was "merely" "just sayin" ....

"We know not the hour or the day"

Ya know?


For all of those/us that BELIEVE in the Bible, Jesus, the saints and the apostles, Heaven and hell, eternity, and all the things that are christian, this is a message to all to reaffirm your faith, to strenghthen your resolve against the face of diversify, to gather your sheep and be happy, knowing that there is one God, who has told us, that the hour and the day are known only to Him, and that He will come when He is good and bloody ready to, If the world was going to "end" this coming december, (on the 21st ffs) dont you think the upheaval in the world would be just a Tad more upheavily??

Where are the erupting cataclysmic volcanoes?, where is the world war three?? Have we run out of petrol yet?? or oil??

No, what we have got is a lot of CONCERN for our planet which is most definately in a state of disrepair, yea verily we need some damn maintanence. We are certainly living in very different times, times that have "perhaps" never occured before.
This does not mean its over. As Churchill said "this is not the end, it is not the begining of the end, but it is perhaps, the end of the begining"
This quote says it all to me, as much as I would dearly love to see Jesus coming on the clouds, and one day maybe I will, I also am not so stupid as to take a bunch of very ancient pagan thoughts, and even think about compareing that with our modern day science, arts, and culture.

We are evolving or we are not.

Either way we are progressing, regardless of anything.

This progression has been ongoing since the dawn of time.

I see no reason to put ANY faith in "2012" so called "prophecy"

The bible tells you EVERYTHING. and there is no mention of 2012.

We, as surviving members of humanity, looking to the future as a almost scary thing. We see with our own eyes the damage we are reeking on the world. We also see war. Ever civilisation has seen war as war is as human as love.
There have allways been wars, if its a case of a tribe fighting another tribe, or a land of people journeying to fight another, its allways been and will allways be.

We will survive because thats what we do.

And the world will be subdued, because thats what we were told to do, "go forth and multiply, subdue the earth"

Yep, check and check.

Gods plan, for his own reason, on which we may speculate but never be sure, involves pain. The heartache of loss, the anguish of a childs death, the suffering of the disables and blind and deaf.
Pain, pain, and more pain.
"Suffer little children to come unto me"

You know how you take a panadol when youve got a hangover and, and after a while the pounding in your head stops and you say "well thank God at least thats stopped"

Id say gods plan is a little like that, makes us suffer in our jocks and then give us the great holy panadol, to take away our pain.


So our lives really are governed by pain, we feel good, we are happy, we dont feel good we are not. Simple.

There is much more pain to come. Much much more, and lots and lots and lots and lots of misery, with a good dashing of blood, and sadness, and lots of other shit.

If 2012 was real, then what then? We suddenly have no idea what the hells going on. Everything people have lived and died for was for nothing. The whole idea of course, is hardly worth thinking about as it rules out anything we know and replaces it with nothing.

so to summerise, fuck 2012, and start living everybody, love the people around you, do the right thing, be nice to your mother, and well, really, just start living its really easy.

And dont pay any attention to the new age enlightenment brigade because they are just making it up as they go.

They really are.

trust me, Im a doctor...........
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Well "doctor"... Don't know which god you worship but mine is not responsable for all the pain in this world.
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That date does not signify doomsday or anything. It signifies Earth's full-blown dimensional shift into becoming a higher dimensional planet. Naturally, large earthquakes and other natural calamities will accompany the transformation.
Thread: Just conducted a new research on annual big quakes that happened since 2010. August 20-September 2 2014???

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"For 2 consecutive years, lots of rumors concerning big earthquakes and pole shifts caused by a celestial object to occur around the date of August 17 has been circulating on the internet from sources like John Moore and Mike Harris (Nibiru Aug 17 2012) and Pattie Brassard (Mag 15 quake Aug 17 2013).....Is there in any way a chance that the real date could actually be this year? .....August 17-27 2014????" ----Solar Guardian
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The one star bandit without any contribution or critique why the pope would make such a statement strikes again. If there is nothing to it, why mention it to allay people of their fears. Why mention it to keep them in the dogma? Why mention it and even make reference to the sun and moon going down and stars falling from the sky if its all BS.
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because it will reach to certain people, like you for exampple, and the fact you are talking about this is automatic bs ,
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This. If this was a serious warning, it would be broadcasted worldwide for all. How many people are going to see this? .000001% of the population?
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The ' Jump on any thread' for fame NUTS are here OP !

Nice try, but Trin 'Loosed the Hounds' of GLP a little while ago.
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The one star bandit without any contribution or critique why the pope would make such a statement strikes again. If there is nothing to it, why mention it to allay people of their fears. Why mention it to keep them in the dogma? Why mention it and even make reference to the sun and moon going down and stars falling from the sky if its all BS.
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because it will reach to certain people, like you for exampple, and the fact you are talking about this is automatic bs ,
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This. If this was a serious warning, it would be broadcasted worldwide for all. How many people are going to see this? .000001% of the population?
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Your point adds more credence to the point of this thread. The 0.0001% are the ones actually paying attention and asking questions. They are the ones being watchful and the ones who got this message.....and who, perhaps, the pope is trying to bring back under the agenda.

The rest of the world are sheeple, who never heard of and researched the date in the first instance and will never see through it even if they heard it. The pope making this statement amongst the many other odd things government is doing, Israel is currently doing, is one more piece of the jigsaw puzzle. Ah, but I guess, you'll never see this unless you are part of the 0.0000001%.

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no just to build some hype
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Really? Well, you should watch this. Monty in this video says some of his friends are being told by their clergy men that they shouldn't freak out just in case the sun decides not to rise on the 21 Dec 2012. Now, isn't that strange?



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Damn, I was on a mayan website researching this topic and they showed "In Stone" of this incidence, This is the second time tonight I mentioned it..

Yes, I know, This time it constitutes a link.
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no just to build some hype
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Really? Well, you should watch this. Monty in this video says some of his friends are being told by their clergy men that they shouldn't freak out just in case the sun decides not to rise on the 21 Dec 2012. Now, isn't that strange?



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Damn, I was on a mayan website researching this topic and they showed "In Stone" of this incidence, This is the second time tonight I mentioned it..

Yes, I know, This time it constitutes a link.
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What bothers me and those who have unraveled the religious agenda is the fact that the pope is making this statement. The religious ones are being led into a Global Village. The very fact that the pope tells them not to worry, considering every other news we have heard from ancient cultures etc, worries me because I know where his own agenda leads. He shouldn't even mention this date and dismiss it, unless of course it threatens their own agenda.

So he dismisses this date and/or any other date, but guarantees people and tells them to stick to the religious programming of the bible. That is quite disingenuous. I wouldn't even mention anything about this date or any other date unless something will happen in the immediate future. Before they now have time to play out their own agenda.

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What will happen Dec 21 2012? Earth stops its rotation? How long? Uhh....3 days... ET contactee Tolec states below:
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The electromagnetic particles that will be flowing & interchanging between the planets during the 12.21.12 alignment will be highly magnified and highly supercharged when they reach Earth. They will penetrate the crust, through the Earth and down into its core.

At the actual moment of alignment it will cause the Earth to pause, and this process will completely transform the core of our planet to a completely new kind of energy source.

This will be the first time cosmic transformational event of this type ever… for a planet. Time will begin to go away, and Earth will continue her evolution & transformation process into becoming a higher dimensional world.”
Thread: Just conducted a new research on annual big quakes that happened since 2010. August 20-September 2 2014???

Thread: Russian scientist predicts "Massive Earthquake" to hit Japan by end of 2014!!!

Thread: Japanese scientist predicts another major earthquake in Japan by 2017 -Japanese news!!!

"For 2 consecutive years, lots of rumors concerning big earthquakes and pole shifts caused by a celestial object to occur around the date of August 17 has been circulating on the internet from sources like John Moore and Mike Harris (Nibiru Aug 17 2012) and Pattie Brassard (Mag 15 quake Aug 17 2013).....Is there in any way a chance that the real date could actually be this year? .....August 17-27 2014????" ----Solar Guardian
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Here is also vital info for December 21 2012: Thread: NASA Predict Total Blackout 22-25 December due to Allignment 5 Planets! WTF?!?!

NASA predicts total blackout on 23-25 Dec 2012 during alignment of Universe.

US scientists predict Universe change, total blackout of planet for 3 days from Dec 23 2012.

It is not the end of the world, it is an alignment of the Universe, where the Sun and the earth will align for the first time. The earth will shift from the current third dimension to zero dimension, then shift to the forth dimension. During this transition, the entire Universe will face a big change, and we will see a entire brand new world.

The 3 days blackout is predicted to happen on Dec 23, 24, 25....during this time, staying calm is most important, hug each other, pray pray pray, sleep for 3 nights...and those who survive will face a brand new world....for those not prepared, many will die because of fear. Be happy, enjoy every moment now. Don't worry, pray to God everyday. There is a lot of talk about what will happen in 2012, but many people don't believe it, and don't want to talk about it for fear of creating fear and panic. gaspgasp

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Thread: Just conducted a new research on annual big quakes that happened since 2010. August 20-September 2 2014???

Thread: Russian scientist predicts "Massive Earthquake" to hit Japan by end of 2014!!!

Thread: Japanese scientist predicts another major earthquake in Japan by 2017 -Japanese news!!!

"For 2 consecutive years, lots of rumors concerning big earthquakes and pole shifts caused by a celestial object to occur around the date of August 17 has been circulating on the internet from sources like John Moore and Mike Harris (Nibiru Aug 17 2012) and Pattie Brassard (Mag 15 quake Aug 17 2013).....Is there in any way a chance that the real date could actually be this year? .....August 17-27 2014????" ----Solar Guardian
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ASIANS CAN READ MINDS!!!!!!!!!!! These two links show that very many people now know the truth that they can telepathically read our minds!!!!!!

SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!!!!!!!


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bump This thread rocks!!! Somebody, pinny this weeny. tounge
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Thread: Russian scientist predicts "Massive Earthquake" to hit Japan by end of 2014!!!

Thread: Japanese scientist predicts another major earthquake in Japan by 2017 -Japanese news!!!

"For 2 consecutive years, lots of rumors concerning big earthquakes and pole shifts caused by a celestial object to occur around the date of August 17 has been circulating on the internet from sources like John Moore and Mike Harris (Nibiru Aug 17 2012) and Pattie Brassard (Mag 15 quake Aug 17 2013).....Is there in any way a chance that the real date could actually be this year? .....August 17-27 2014????" ----Solar Guardian
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"For 2 consecutive years, lots of rumors concerning big earthquakes and pole shifts caused by a celestial object to occur around the date of August 17 has been circulating on the internet from sources like John Moore and Mike Harris (Nibiru Aug 17 2012) and Pattie Brassard (Mag 15 quake Aug 17 2013).....Is there in any way a chance that the real date could actually be this year? .....August 17-27 2014????" ----Solar Guardian
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The one star bandit without any contribution or critique why the pope would make such a statement strikes again. If there is nothing to it, why mention it to allay people of their fears. Why mention it to keep them in the dogma? Why mention it and even make reference to the sun and moon going down and stars falling from the sky if its all BS.
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This is a fascinating inquiry on the part of Ohwell! When the Pope talks, it is best to listen, because the Vatican is the most powerful gatekeeper and designer of the fake apacalypse - and the most powerful ruler over all nations. And his army is one billion strong, all over the world.

I make a distinction here, I am a follower of Christ Jesus and stand with all those that are and have been killed for not bowing the knee to a mere man who claims to be Christ on earth.

So, why is the Pope addressing the Mayan doomsday prophecy, and bringing it to the forefront of the thoughts of his followers?

There is a possible reason and a possible reason why this war in Isreal is being ramped up at this time:

The Malachy Prophecies (which I believe were written for an agenda, and are self fulfilling on the part of those that scheme behind the scene to make believers out of the unknowing sheep that do not see this power at work)




The year of 2012 is repeatedly emphasized as coinciding with the last Pope on the list, called the “Glory of the Olive.” Fr. Thibaut demonstrates the calculation of the year 2012 on a series of charts. The last 40 popes of the genuine part of the prophecy span four centuries with an average of eleven years per reign, and so he calculates 440 years from 1572. 1572 +440 =2012. (pp. 22-23) Fr. Thibaut shows how the year 2012 keeps appearing in other calculations as well. He also insists that it will only be in the year 2012 that it will become clear whether his interpretation of The Prophecy is correct or not. (p.101)
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A quote from Thibaut, as detailed in Petrus Romanus says We shall see later, when, in many ways, we will go up from the election of Gregory XIII (1572) to 2012 and the Judgment of God.


Read more: [link to survive2012.com]

Now that is interesting. Unknown to most is that the Vatican is the biggest (or at least on of) landholders in Isreal. The conspiracy has always been from the time of the Knights Templars, to place the throne of the Vatican in Jerusalem, or at least in Isreal. It has never happened, there is only one throne in Jerusalem, that of King David, and no one has sat on that throne since the rightful heir and King Jesus Christ has arisen and reigns from heaven.

So now we see how this 2012 doomsday prophecy wraps right back around to the Vatican - who started this scenario from the beginning, was it really the Mayans or their conquerors?

The plan has been almost two thousand of years in the making now.
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The scripture readings today at mass pertained to "end times" We got the same spiel in church. The priest told us that anything pertaining to end times prophesies are false since no one knows the day or the hour but the Father.

I think that 12/21/12 is an important date, it's the "end of this age", but it is not the "end of the world." I personally think that something incredible will happen or that it will be a "time marker" for the awakening.

Sunday, November 18, 2012
Thirty-Third Sunday in Ordinary Time

Daniel 12:1-3
Psalm 16:5, 8-11
Hebrews 10:11-14, 18
Mark 13:24-32

24 "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light,
25 and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.
26 And then they will see the Son of man coming in clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then he will send out the angels, and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.
28 "From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near.
29 So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that he is near, at the very gates.
30 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away before all these things take place.
31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
32 "But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
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Pope calls on faithful to ignore doomsday warnings

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grizzy Christians should not be paying any attention to what that evil man and his false church say.

THE AWFUL TRUTH... [link to www.chick.com]
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^^^^TRUTH^^^^
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous

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