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200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15

 
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200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
mosin nagant standing up vs m&p 15 sport with chair rest.


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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
wtf
wtf are you trying to say, op ?
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
Kind of apples and oranges.

Better to compare it to a Remington chambered for .308 or .300 Winchester mag.

Or maybe the American standard a .30-06.
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
Yes. Bad comparison.

An accurate comparison would be an American bolt action military rifle of the same time period. Springfield .30-06.
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
just a little shootin . had a little buzz. my buddy outclassed me with his ancient blunderbuss.
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
just a little shootin . had a little buzz. my buddy outclassed me with his ancient blunderbuss.
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Good stuff
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
just a little shootin . had a little buzz. my buddy outclassed me with his ancient blunderbuss.
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Good stuff
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
militia
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
thats like 600 yards or more
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
I could shame both of you with a Daisy BB gun.
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
great

a drunk with a gun
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
Why do many of these replies think it needs to be a formal contest to prove something??

OP that looked like FUN!!
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
Why do many of these replies think it needs to be a formal contest to prove something??

OP that looked like FUN!!
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everyone is rambo and terminator combined here..lol

and that is not 600 yards, if it was i would be the best noob ever. it was roughly a bit more than 2 football fields.
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
my only regret is not getting a shot of the target. we mangled it.
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
Always a good time... Nice post for all the haters to get worked up over.. Well fuck em...
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
thats like 600 yards or more
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
Other than having fun, that didn't seem to accomplish anything. Both rifles are very good, but designed for different uses. You were pushing the range of the AR, but easily in the range of the Mosin. Dollar for dollar, the Mosin is hard to beat. The AR is the best for all around shooting (and fun!). For $200 you get a Mosin and accessories, and another $100 gets you a full can of surplus ammo. That's a lot of fun for $300. The AR is a lot more money, but you have a lot more fun with it. I put a quad-rail on so I can put more toys on it. I have so many toys that only about half are on it at any time. The bump stock makes it work like a full auto. The only prblem with the AR can go through a lot of ammo. Unfortunately, Mine like most ARs has a 16in. barrel, which just wont make those long shots.
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
Other than having fun, that didn't seem to accomplish anything. Both rifles are very good, but designed for different uses. You were pushing the range of the AR, but easily in the range of the Mosin. Dollar for dollar, the Mosin is hard to beat. The AR is the best for all around shooting (and fun!). For $200 you get a Mosin and accessories, and another $100 gets you a full can of surplus ammo. That's a lot of fun for $300. The AR is a lot more money, but you have a lot more fun with it. I put a quad-rail on so I can put more toys on it. I have so many toys that only about half are on it at any time. The bump stock makes it work like a full auto. The only prblem with the AR can go through a lot of ammo. Unfortunately, Mine like most ARs has a 16in. barrel, which just wont make those long shots.
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sure it will old timer. that "the longer the better" barrel length stuff is old way of thinking and proven incorrect
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
Always a good time... Nice post for all the haters to get worked up over.. Well fuck em...
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haha yeah it was inevitable.
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
Other than having fun, that didn't seem to accomplish anything. Both rifles are very good, but designed for different uses. You were pushing the range of the AR, but easily in the range of the Mosin. Dollar for dollar, the Mosin is hard to beat. The AR is the best for all around shooting (and fun!). For $200 you get a Mosin and accessories, and another $100 gets you a full can of surplus ammo. That's a lot of fun for $300. The AR is a lot more money, but you have a lot more fun with it. I put a quad-rail on so I can put more toys on it. I have so many toys that only about half are on it at any time. The bump stock makes it work like a full auto. The only prblem with the AR can go through a lot of ammo. Unfortunately, Mine like most ARs has a 16in. barrel, which just wont make those long shots.
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i hear you. as soon as i get a bigger place, i plan on picking up a nice mosin.
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
great

a drunk with a gun
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i said i had a buzz. dick.
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
the m & p 15 eats steelcase like nothin.
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
Other than having fun, that didn't seem to accomplish anything. Both rifles are very good, but designed for different uses. You were pushing the range of the AR, but easily in the range of the Mosin. Dollar for dollar, the Mosin is hard to beat. The AR is the best for all around shooting (and fun!). For $200 you get a Mosin and accessories, and another $100 gets you a full can of surplus ammo. That's a lot of fun for $300. The AR is a lot more money, but you have a lot more fun with it. I put a quad-rail on so I can put more toys on it. I have so many toys that only about half are on it at any time. The bump stock makes it work like a full auto. The only prblem with the AR can go through a lot of ammo. Unfortunately, Mine like most ARs has a 16in. barrel, which just wont make those long shots.
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sure it will old timer. that "the longer the better" barrel length stuff is old way of thinking and proven incorrect
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Wrong...learn simple physics please
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
Other than having fun, that didn't seem to accomplish anything. Both rifles are very good, but designed for different uses. You were pushing the range of the AR, but easily in the range of the Mosin. Dollar for dollar, the Mosin is hard to beat. The AR is the best for all around shooting (and fun!). For $200 you get a Mosin and accessories, and another $100 gets you a full can of surplus ammo. That's a lot of fun for $300. The AR is a lot more money, but you have a lot more fun with it. I put a quad-rail on so I can put more toys on it. I have so many toys that only about half are on it at any time. The bump stock makes it work like a full auto. The only prblem with the AR can go through a lot of ammo. Unfortunately, Mine like most ARs has a 16in. barrel, which just wont make those long shots.
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sure it will old timer. that "the longer the better" barrel length stuff is old way of thinking and proven incorrect
 Quoting: EVIL_BEAN_KID
Wrong...learn simple physics please
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fizzix......shorter barrel is stiffer, stiffer barrel flexes less=more accuracy
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
200 yards is not pushing ar 15 limits. Maybe its you...
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
Other than having fun, that didn't seem to accomplish anything. Both rifles are very good, but designed for different uses. You were pushing the range of the AR, but easily in the range of the Mosin. Dollar for dollar, the Mosin is hard to beat. The AR is the best for all around shooting (and fun!). For $200 you get a Mosin and accessories, and another $100 gets you a full can of surplus ammo. That's a lot of fun for $300. The AR is a lot more money, but you have a lot more fun with it. I put a quad-rail on so I can put more toys on it. I have so many toys that only about half are on it at any time. The bump stock makes it work like a full auto. The only prblem with the AR can go through a lot of ammo. Unfortunately, Mine like most ARs has a 16in. barrel, which just wont make those long shots.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


sure it will old timer. that "the longer the better" barrel length stuff is old way of thinking and proven incorrect
 Quoting: EVIL_BEAN_KID
Wrong...learn simple physics please
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fizzix......shorter barrel is stiffer, stiffer barrel flexes less=more accuracy
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i will go with a 20" barrel
reach out and touch someone
a quick disconnect for the suppressor
a change of rounds
silent but deadly, just not as far
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
You forgot the biggest difference
5.56 or .223
4 g (62 gr) SS109 FMJBT 940 m/s (3,100 ft/s) 1,767 J (1,303 ft·lbf)

7.62X54R
11.3 g (174 gr) HPBT 797 m/s (2,610 ft/s) 3,593 J (2,650 ft·lbf)
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
You forgot the biggest difference
5.56 or .223
4 g (62 gr) SS109 FMJBT 940 m/s (3,100 ft/s) 1,767 J (1,303 ft·lbf)

7.62X54R
11.3 g (174 gr) HPBT 797 m/s (2,610 ft/s) 3,593 J (2,650 ft·lbf)
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Liked your video alot.

My brother doesn't seem to take the Nagant seriously.

I always like to point to.
Simo Häyhä (Finnish pronunciation: [ˈsimɔ ˈhæy̯hæ]; December 17, 1905 – April 1, 2002), nicknamed "White Death" (Russian: Белая смерть, Belaya Smert; Finnish: valkoinen kuolema; Swedish: den vita döden) by the Red Army, was a Finnish sniper. Using a modified Mosin–Nagant in the Winter War, he has the highest recorded number of confirmed sniper kills – 505 – in any major war
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Re: 200 yd target shootout. mosin vs.ar15
Other than having fun, that didn't seem to accomplish anything. Both rifles are very good, but designed for different uses. You were pushing the range of the AR, but easily in the range of the Mosin. Dollar for dollar, the Mosin is hard to beat. The AR is the best for all around shooting (and fun!). For $200 you get a Mosin and accessories, and another $100 gets you a full can of surplus ammo. That's a lot of fun for $300. The AR is a lot more money, but you have a lot more fun with it. I put a quad-rail on so I can put more toys on it. I have so many toys that only about half are on it at any time. The bump stock makes it work like a full auto. The only prblem with the AR can go through a lot of ammo. Unfortunately, Mine like most ARs has a 16in. barrel, which just wont make those long shots.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy

sure it will old timer. that "the longer the better" barrel length stuff is old way of thinking and proven incorrect
 Quoting: EVIL_BEAN_KID
Wrong...learn simple physics please
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fizzix......shorter barrel is stiffer, stiffer barrel flexes less=more accuracy
 Quoting: EVIL_BEAN_KID
Wrong.. compare the ballistics of a handgun with a 2" barrel to that of the same caliber with an 8" barrel. longer time in barrel equates to more velocity , more velocity equals flatter trajectory equaling more accuracy.

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