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How can I stop my son talking to himself CONSTANTLY???

 
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Get him an account on GLP to interact with healthy minds.
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Why is he being ordered by court to be drugged?
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Because 12 months ago when he had his 1st psychosis he was a danger to himself & others & then 3 months ago he was on invega sustenna injections which made him angry & violent & he tried to kill me & smashed the front window in when I locked him out so he couldn't get to me :(. They took him off that medication & he hasn't been angry or violent since.
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You don't, some people have to turn inward to find a person worth talking to. Not that you are not worth it, you just wouldn't understand the things he is trying to work out.

Why would you want to stop him?? Just accept his habit, talking to oneself doesn't hurt anybody else.
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I do accept it, it honestly doesn't worry me or his brother at all, I'm just trying to get him off the medication & I can't see any other way :(
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Get him an account on GLP to interact with healthy minds.
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He has one lol but he hasn't been on for a long time (he doesn't even get on the computer anymore).
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I think outloud often when i'm home or think i'm alone and do also sleep at irregular hours. How old is he?
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He's 20
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if he has scizo then he is highly spiritual and probably has connection to the spiritual realm!


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this
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You are a great mother...if not for moms like you...not many of us "normal people" would have made it...I'm not a doctor or even an expert on these kind of matters...I'm a 40 somthing male who works on a tub boat in the Seattle wa area...I have two sons one is 9 the other 15...they are "normal "as well...but when I read your post I had to tell you how how proud I am of you...
I truly wish yiu all the best...keep the love in your heart...It really is the most important thing...(when we go thru our life review...and yes we ALL will) you'll realize some things right away...
1. life was short.(even if you live to be 500 years old)
2.Love really was, what it was all about.
3.I'm sooo glad I hung in there...
4. my son is now 100% and very grateful I hung in there too
Chris
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blwkss
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Re: How can I stop my son talking to himself CONSTANTLY???
Buy him a big bag of WEED, and teach him to roll a joint for Godsake!
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if he has scizo then he is highly spiritual and probably has connection to the spiritual realm!


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this
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^^^^^^
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Re: How can I stop my son talking to himself CONSTANTLY???
Wow, doesn't sound too good. Is he actually psychotic - like paranoid and/or not making good sense? Because, it's not good to leave him like that if so. Also, does he seem to be getting better or worse, and how much sleep does he average a night? If he's getting better with time, maybe he'll come out of it, but if getting worse, something needs to be done.

I've had issues with my daughter and found a good night's sleep is essential to her mental well being. With her, I've found a very small amount of anti-psychotic is all that is needed. About one tenth of what they would give in hospital. I know your son has reacted badly to olanzapine, but on a very small dosage (2.5 mg or less, there is no weight gain, minimal antipsychotic effect - but still has a strong sedative action and also helps prevents psychosis.)

Also, on tablets, you can then take your time and wean him off yourself over an extended period of time by cutting them up yourself.

By the way, there is no need to make your next appointment. You can easily postpone a while by citing ill health or other.
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My son is no longer on any medication for schizophrenia (he is supposed to be on injections of clopixol fortnightly but it didn't change anything so I haven't taken him for his injections for the last month). He is on a low dose of Lithium for bipolar but his only 2 bad habits these days is constantly talking to himself out loud & not sleeping at regular times. I don't want him medicated again but we have a psychiatrist appointment on the 28th & if I can't find a way to stop this then they will put him back on psych meds as he is court ordered until the 18th of January. We eat well & I have him on fish oil, B complex, magnesium & zinc. He has put on about 20kg's in 6 months from the psych meds & has no desire to do ANYTHING at all!!
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Diet, Diet and Diet.
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umm did you actually read any of the above posts ?
There's loads of good info there from people who actually
took the time to write
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Yes I am. I have been reading & will reply to more tomorrow as I have to get my ass to bed now so I can go to work tomorrow.

Thank you to everyone who has written I appreciate it!!!
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What sort of creative therapy does he do? Painting?
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

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By the way, my daughter was on clopixal and had severe akathesia on that plus constant talking to herself.

I tell you, some of these 'medications' are worse than the condition.
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11/19/2012 07:06 AM
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Re: How can I stop my son talking to himself CONSTANTLY???
My son is no longer on any medication for schizophrenia (he is supposed to be on injections of clopixol fortnightly but it didn't change anything so I haven't taken him for his injections for the last month). He is on a low dose of Lithium for bipolar but his only 2 bad habits these days is constantly talking to himself out loud & not sleeping at regular times. I don't want him medicated again but we have a psychiatrist appointment on the 28th & if I can't find a way to stop this then they will put him back on psych meds as he is court ordered until the 18th of January. We eat well & I have him on fish oil, B complex, magnesium & zinc. He has put on about 20kg's in 6 months from the psych meds & has no desire to do ANYTHING at all!!
 Quoting: miffed


let me guess...
you were married, then got a messy divorce because you realised you liked ladies more than men

during this time your lovely young son starting changing and got bullied at school?

after you kept taking him to the doctors, they diagnosed him with ADHD and as many other things as they could, you got him to take all/any medication stated by the doctors....then your son got worse, his behavior got worse and he didn't want to go to school....
so the doctor prescribed more medicine, stronger medicine....therapists etc...(or he just shared your therapist)

sound about right op??
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If I ever have kids I want to have 2 back to back. They can keep each other company, use each other to develop their social skills, and in general be more well adjusted when they are older.

I want them to be no more than 2 years age difference apart.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24433009


I had three kids in 17 months (twins and one). They definitely were great company for each other, they all socialized well etc.,. Lots of work for me, but well worth it.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Hey there, I'm someone who has also been given these meds in the past, and please, please, please, do some major research on what you're giving your kid. The psychiatrist does NOT always know what's best, nor any doctor. Have you tried communicating with your son about meta-topics, or about what interests him?

Sounds lame, but honestly, SMALL doses of marijuana (THC, really) ease schizo symptoms like insomnia and restlessness, but for some it makes it worse.

But please, I'm not another crazy from GLP, I'm speaking to you from my own experience with a multitude of drugs (prescribed from the "all-knowing" doctors) relating to unhappiness and stress caused by the state of the current world.

your son may just be highly intelligent as well. just a guess.
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11/19/2012 07:12 AM
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Why post this on GLP? Do you really think you're going to get straight advice here or are you looking for attention? Post it on some medical bulletin board.
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Beat him with a rubber hose...
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Re: How can I stop my son talking to himself CONSTANTLY???
Wow, doesn't sound too good. Is he actually psychotic - like paranoid and/or not making good sense? Because, it's not good to leave him like that if so. Also, does he seem to be getting better or worse, and how much sleep does he average a night? If he's getting better with time, maybe he'll come out of it, but if getting worse, something needs to be done.

I've had issues with my daughter and found a good night's sleep is essential to her mental well being. With her, I've found a very small amount of anti-psychotic is all that is needed. About one tenth of what they would give in hospital. I know your son has reacted badly to olanzapine, but on a very small dosage (2.5 mg or less, there is no weight gain, minimal antipsychotic effect - but still has a strong sedative action and also helps prevents psychosis.)

Also, on tablets, you can then take your time and wean him off yourself over an extended period of time by cutting them up yourself.

By the way, there is no need to make your next appointment. You can easily postpone a while by citing ill health or other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9014106


No he is not psychotic at all, no paranoia, nothing. That's why I took him of the medication because it was unnecessary for just talking to himself.
Yes he had visual hallucinations with olanzapine but he was also on the invega at the same time so I don't know what he'd be like with just the olanzapine?

We have to make this appointment because the only way we got out of the last 2 was we changed from the clinic to a private doctor so the clinic think he has been compliant with their court order & I want this doctor (who was actually a relief doctor at the clinic for my son) to see that there is no difference without the drug.

He seems to be a really good doctor so hopefully we will be able to have a really good talk with him & maybe even do something like you suggested with the small dose & see how that goes.
hf
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Beat him with a rubber hose...
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Only after I beat you with it Brief beated
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Re: How can I stop my son talking to himself CONSTANTLY???
My son is no longer on any medication for schizophrenia (he is supposed to be on injections of clopixol fortnightly but it didn't change anything so I haven't taken him for his injections for the last month). He is on a low dose of Lithium for bipolar but his only 2 bad habits these days is constantly talking to himself out loud & not sleeping at regular times. I don't want him medicated again but we have a psychiatrist appointment on the 28th & if I can't find a way to stop this then they will put him back on psych meds as he is court ordered until the 18th of January. We eat well & I have him on fish oil, B complex, magnesium & zinc. He has put on about 20kg's in 6 months from the psych meds & has no desire to do ANYTHING at all!!
 Quoting: miffed


let me guess...
you were married, then got a messy divorce because you realised you liked ladies more than men

during this time your lovely young son starting changing and got bullied at school?

after you kept taking him to the doctors, they diagnosed him with ADHD and as many other things as they could, you got him to take all/any medication stated by the doctors....then your son got worse, his behavior got worse and he didn't want to go to school....
so the doctor prescribed more medicine, stronger medicine....therapists etc...(or he just shared your therapist)

sound about right op??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28023521


oh what a surprise, op skipped my post (above) and replied to brief's later post....

hmmm, what does that tell ya glpers?
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Re: How can I stop my son talking to himself CONSTANTLY???
Oh he needs a new house thats not small and a car and a dishwasher and a laminate , marmer , floor with floor heating , enough money to not ask again and more.
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Re: How can I stop my son talking to himself CONSTANTLY???
in addition to other suggestions, maybe try giving him something to do creatively.
Guitar, piano, band instrument, painting, drawing, writing a book (get an old typewriter if you dont want him on computer). Everyone has a creative element inside of them that can be nurtured. Expressing yourself creatively relax's you, makes you more intelligent, makes you feel accomplishment, all good things to nurture.
Is your environment healthy, stable, good?
Do you play 'lovely' music. Soft jazz, nice classical (not the kind that would get you overexcited). Is your home clean, organized, welcoming.
You'd be amazed how some people's homes are either overly structured and uncomfortable, or a pileheap of crap where only a rat would be comfortable.

Do you go to church? A nice church of evangelical Christians who can support you and your son. Pray infront of your son, outloud, pray for him, and with him. Teach him to talk to God.

Does this boy have a male role model in his life that he sees dailey or weekly. Get him a mentor if you can. GEt good men in his life that he can watch, see, imitate, talk too. Mama's boys lose in life, we smother our boys. Sorry fact.

Get ALL food additives out of his life, get him on healthy vitamins, ORGANIC fruits and vegtables. Teach him to garden his own foods, even if its just tomato plants and lettuce in the summer. Get all drinks but spring or well water out of his life. I don't even trust tea anymore. Teach him to grow his own sprouts. GEt a good juicer, teach him to juice.

Maybe he would like to do sports, yoga, defensive arts. Maybe he would like to film his own little movies, get him a video camera, but your going to have to let him process the films on computer.

Write everything down that you try. Keep a journal, dates, times, foods, diets.
To maintain a strick diet means YOU have to adhere to same diet, eat the same diet. It won't hurt you, it will help you. The food that is killing his brain can not be in the house. Because it is like a rat to cheese in a mousetrap, they will go for it, even if it kills them.

Brains are a delicate thing. He may never be ''normal'' he may never be able to live on his own. You have a damaged child. Mourn the man he will never be, accept the challenge of the human being you have been gifted with and keep trying. You can do this, you are strong, you are looking for solutions.

This is what I would do.
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Re: How can I stop my son talking to himself CONSTANTLY???
My son is no longer on any medication for schizophrenia (he is supposed to be on injections of clopixol fortnightly but it didn't change anything so I haven't taken him for his injections for the last month). He is on a low dose of Lithium for bipolar but his only 2 bad habits these days is constantly talking to himself out loud & not sleeping at regular times. I don't want him medicated again but we have a psychiatrist appointment on the 28th & if I can't find a way to stop this then they will put him back on psych meds as he is court ordered until the 18th of January. We eat well & I have him on fish oil, B complex, magnesium & zinc. He has put on about 20kg's in 6 months from the psych meds & has no desire to do ANYTHING at all!!
 Quoting: miffed


let me guess...
you were married, then got a messy divorce because you realised you liked ladies more than men

during this time your lovely young son starting changing and got bullied at school?

after you kept taking him to the doctors, they diagnosed him with ADHD and as many other things as they could, you got him to take all/any medication stated by the doctors....then your son got worse, his behavior got worse and he didn't want to go to school....
so the doctor prescribed more medicine, stronger medicine....therapists etc...(or he just shared your therapist)

sound about right op??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28023521


Was married no messy divorce, still friends with him & his ex wife. Definitely strickly dickly (that's me & my daughter in my avie if that was what you were basing your lesbo shit off).

My son has never been bullied at school but he was diagnosed with aspergers at 12. He finished yr 12 with good marks.
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That whole paragraph was all about you.
I,me,I,me,....you.
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+1
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Re: How can I stop my son talking to himself CONSTANTLY???
in addition to other suggestions, maybe try giving him something to do creatively.
Guitar, piano, band instrument, painting, drawing, writing a book (get an old typewriter if you dont want him on computer). Everyone has a creative element inside of them that can be nurtured. Expressing yourself creatively relax's you, makes you more intelligent, makes you feel accomplishment, all good things to nurture.
Is your environment healthy, stable, good?
Do you play 'lovely' music. Soft jazz, nice classical (not the kind that would get you overexcited). Is your home clean, organized, welcoming.
You'd be amazed how some people's homes are either overly structured and uncomfortable, or a pileheap of crap where only a rat would be comfortable.

Do you go to church? A nice church of evangelical Christians who can support you and your son. Pray infront of your son, outloud, pray for him, and with him. Teach him to talk to God.

Does this boy have a male role model in his life that he sees dailey or weekly. Get him a mentor if you can. GEt good men in his life that he can watch, see, imitate, talk too. Mama's boys lose in life, we smother our boys. Sorry fact.

Get ALL food additives out of his life, get him on healthy vitamins, ORGANIC fruits and vegtables. Teach him to garden his own foods, even if its just tomato plants and lettuce in the summer. Get all drinks but spring or well water out of his life. I don't even trust tea anymore. Teach him to grow his own sprouts. GEt a good juicer, teach him to juice.

Maybe he would like to do sports, yoga, defensive arts. Maybe he would like to film his own little movies, get him a video camera, but your going to have to let him process the films on computer.

Write everything down that you try. Keep a journal, dates, times, foods, diets.
To maintain a strick diet means YOU have to adhere to same diet, eat the same diet. It won't hurt you, it will help you. The food that is killing his brain can not be in the house. Because it is like a rat to cheese in a mousetrap, they will go for it, even if it kills them.

Brains are a delicate thing. He may never be ''normal'' he may never be able to live on his own. You have a damaged child. Mourn the man he will never be, accept the challenge of the human being you have been gifted with and keep trying. You can do this, you are strong, you are looking for solutions.

This is what I would do.
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Thank you for your time I will answer this tomorrow as I really must get to sleep
BRIEF
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Beat him with a rubber hose...
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Only after I beat you with it Brief beated
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LOL, just talk back to him like you're having a conversation...respond to everything he says...
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