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42% of Fukushima children now with thyroid disorders — Official blames too much seafood?

 
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German TV channel ZDF’s segment on the Fukushima Health Survey translaed by SImplyInfo:

[...] The number of thyroid disorders has jumped. Fukushima City this morning: the health commission of the prefecture presents the newest numbers of children tests, one and a half years after the disaster. More than 42% of 57,000 tested children have nodules or cyst, reports Dr. Suzuki who leads the examinations. In Chernobyl they found only 0.1 – 1%. nobody of the experts asks for the reasons. In the afternoon, in Minamisoma, Dr. Suzuki wants to inform concerned citizens. He explains the results mainly by improved diagnosis methods, but people don’t believe him. [...] There are no refererence studies, Dr. Suzuki tells us, and maybe the children simply took too much iodine or seafood. He doesn’t know if this has something to do with radiation. “We are mainly here to inform the parents of the results of our study.” But what do such results mean to parents without proper explanations? The official handling of the disaster is more than questionable. Many people have completely lost trust in government and believe that the disaster is played down to protect the mighty nuclear industry of Japan.”

As SimplyInfo notes:

Dr. Suzuki’s claim on iodine levels and seafood consumption are actually the opposite of how this works. Seafood consumption increases dietary iodine. The traditional Japanese diet is high in iodine. Dietary iodine is radioprotective (protects the thyroid from taking in radioactive iodine). Dietary iodine also protects they thyroid from creating goiters and other thyroid problems.

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I wonder what the figures are in tokyo and other places
It'll give us a better indication of how widespread the radiation issue is.

Rates in Hawaii, US West Coast and US East Coast would also be useful to see how severe the distribution of hot particles by the jetstream has been
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Tepco pumped millions of gallons of contaminated water into the ocean duh
A pissed off American veteran!
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This is extremely fucked up, yet they turn s blind eye to it and feed people complete bullshit... Ever wanted to see agenda 21 in action, well here you go. A couple hundred pounds of set soloed plutonium will ensure the human race can never get back on its feet on its own again.....
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*aerosolized plutonium
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Asahi: Now almost 100,000 Fukushima kids with thyroid problems, parents concerned — Whether that’s “alarmingly high” it’s difficult to say

[...] The Fukushima prefectural government [...] survey found that 40 percent of 96,000 or so children for whom test results are available developed thyroid gland problems, such as nodules, or lumps, and cysts. [...]

Despite parental concerns about radiation exposure, it remains difficult to say with any certainty whether the 40-percent occurrence rate is alarmingly high or not. This is because no exhaustive thyroid gland tests have been done on children using highly reliable ultrasound technology.

The Environment Ministry commissioned the Japan Association of Breast and Thyroid Sonology to conduct thyroid gland checkups on 4,500 children aged 18 or under in three prefectures outside Fukushima.

[...] Nagasaki Prefecture was chosen as a study area partly because of its remoteness from Fukushima as well as the absence of obvious health issues stemming from the nuclear disaster and the presence of experts in thyroid gland testing. The Japan Association of Breast and Thyroid Sonology also plans to carry out similar tests in Yamanashi and Aomori prefectures. [...]

[link to ajw.asahi.com]

[link to enenews.com]
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Fukushima has not and will not harm any human being.
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Asahi: Now almost 100,000 Fukushima kids with thyroid problems, parents concerned — Whether that’s “alarmingly high” it’s difficult to say

[...] The Fukushima prefectural government [...] survey found that 40 percent of 96,000 or so children for whom test results are available developed thyroid gland problems, such as nodules, or lumps, and cysts. [...]

Despite parental concerns about radiation exposure, it remains difficult to say with any certainty whether the 40-percent occurrence rate is alarmingly high or not. This is because no exhaustive thyroid gland tests have been done on children using highly reliable ultrasound technology.

The Environment Ministry commissioned the Japan Association of Breast and Thyroid Sonology to conduct thyroid gland checkups on 4,500 children aged 18 or under in three prefectures outside Fukushima.

[...] Nagasaki Prefecture was chosen as a study area partly because of its remoteness from Fukushima as well as the absence of obvious health issues stemming from the nuclear disaster and the presence of experts in thyroid gland testing. The Japan Association of Breast and Thyroid Sonology also plans to carry out similar tests in Yamanashi and Aomori prefectures. [...]

[link to ajw.asahi.com]

[link to enenews.com]
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Short sharp and sweet.

The OP's links are BS!
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I thought you had left Aus shill. Oh brother.

My links are BS? Please explain?
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I thought you had left Aus shill. Oh brother.

My links are BS? Please explain?
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Provide actual evidence. So far you have not done so. What you are suggesting and advocating does not exist.
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Hey OP.

How many people have been exposed to harmful radiation exposure from the plant?
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Even low-level radioactivity is damaging
Broad analysis of many radiation studies finds no exposure threshold that precludes harm to life


Even the very lowest levels of radiation are harmful to life, scientists have concluded in the Cambridge Philosophical Society’s journal Biological Reviews. Reporting the results of a wide-ranging analysis of 46 peer-reviewed studies published over the past 40 years, researchers from the University of South Carolina and the University of Paris-Sud found that variation in low-level, natural background radiation had small, but highly statistically significant, negative effects on DNA as well as several measures of health.

The review is a meta-analysis of studies of locations around the globe that have very high natural background radiation as a result of the minerals in the ground there, including Ramsar, Iran, Mombasa, Kenya, Lodeve, France, and Yangjiang, China. These, and a few other geographic locations with natural background radiation that greatly exceeds normal amounts, have long drawn scientists intent on understanding the effects of radiation on life. Individual studies by themselves, however, have often only shown small effects on small populations from which conclusive statistical conclusions were difficult to draw.

“When you’re looking at such small effect sizes, the size of the population you need to study is huge,” said co-author Timothy Mousseau, a biologist in the College of Arts and Sciences at the University of South Carolina. “Pooling across multiple studies, in multiple areas, and in a rigorous statistical manner provides a tool to really get at these questions about low-level radiation.”

Mousseau and co-author Anders Møller of the University of Paris-Sud combed the scientific literature, examining more than 5,000 papers involving natural background radiation that were narrowed to 46 for quantitative comparison. The selected studies all examined both a control group and a more highly irradiated population and quantified the size of the radiation levels for each. Each paper also reported test statistics that allowed direct comparison between the studies.

The organisms studied included plants and animals, but had a large preponderance of human subjects. Each study examined one or more possible effects of radiation, such as DNA damage measured in the lab, prevalence of a disease such as Down’s Syndrome, or the sex ratio produced in offspring. For each effect, a statistical algorithm was used to generate a single value, the effect size, which could be compared across all the studies.

The scientists reported significant negative effects in a range of categories, including immunology, physiology, mutation and disease occurrence. The frequency of negative effects was beyond that of random chance.

“There’s been a sentiment in the community that because we don’t see obvious effects in some of these places, or that what we see tends to be small and localized, that maybe there aren’t any negative effects from low levels of radiation,” said Mousseau. “But when you do the meta-analysis, you do see significant negative effects.”

“It also provides evidence that there is no threshold below which there are no effects of radiation,” he added. “A theory that has been batted around a lot over the last couple of decades is the idea that is there a threshold of exposure below which there are no negative consequences. These data provide fairly strong evidence that there is no threshold – radiation effects are measurable as far down as you can go, given the statistical power you have at hand.”

Mousseau hopes their results, which are consistent with the “linear-no-threshold” model for radiation effects, will better inform the debate about exposure risks. “With the levels of contamination that we have seen as a result of nuclear power plants, especially in the past, and even as a result of Chernobyl and Fukushima and related accidents, there’s an attempt in the industry to downplay the doses that the populations are getting, because maybe it’s only one or two times beyond what is thought to be the natural background level,” he said. “But they’re assuming the natural background levels are fine.”

“And the truth is, if we see effects at these low levels, then we have to be thinking differently about how we develop regulations for exposures, and especially intentional exposures to populations, like the emissions from nuclear power plants, medical procedures, and even some x-ray machines at airports.”

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Thread: Scientists: “The very lowest levels of radiation are harmful to life” — We have to rethink exposure levels from nuclear plants
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One remarkably predictive sign of a lie is a credentialed person with a chip on his shoulder, like a doctor, claiming to be ignorant or to have the inability to guess as to something. Ostensibly it's intellectual caution and the sort of detached lack of bias you'd want in a scientist. In reality it's often indicative that he's lying.

This Dr. Suzuki and his sudden inability to guess about the etiology of these cysts and his desire to obfuscate are indicative that he's lying.
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<snip>
Asahi: Now almost 100,000 Fukushima kids with thyroid problems, parents concerned — Whether that’s “alarmingly high” it’s difficult to say.....

[...] The Fukushima prefectural government [...] survey found that 40 percent of 96,000 or so children for whom test results are available developed thyroid gland problems, such as nodules, or lumps, and cysts. [...]

<end snip>



...funny.. they don't know if it is 'CONCERNING'... because nothing like this has ever been tested......

[link to enenews.com]

straight up... they should have sent the children away more than a year ago.......
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Thread: Now almost 100,000 Fukushima kids with thyroid problems, parents concerned

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Many of those cysts and nodules will turn into full-blown cancer. Poor kids.
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Many of those cysts and nodules will turn into full-blown cancer. Poor kids.
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You'll be interested to know

Brown’s Gas Neutralizes Radioactive Waste to Help Undo Nuclear Accidents

[link to thelibertygang.com]

Watch Mark Porringa, former Chief Engineer at Chalk River, world’s largest nuclear research reactor, as he neutralizes Nuclear Waste.

Note that after the radiation reduction starts, Mark removes the Brown’s Gas flame and the radioactive waste continues to burn itself up… On the Geiger Counter notice the sensitivity setting after the burn is made at a more sensitive level than when you see during the first radiation reading.

Planetary Association for Clean Energy




and Yule Brown showing his lifes work
[link to www.youtube.com]


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This is extremely fucked up, yet they turn s blind eye to it and feed people complete bullshit... Ever wanted to see agenda 21 in action, well here you go. A couple hundred pounds of set soloed plutonium will ensure the human race can never get back on its feet on its own again.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1346592


This is more than Agenda 21- this is the wipe out of an entire culture. People are already leaving the country ( [link to enenews.com] ). Nothing gained by decimating the ocean, Japanese islands, and killing off those people. If this Agenda 21, it got out of hand and fast.
And it's ironic too
'Cause what we tend to do
Is act on what they say
And then it is that way~Jem.
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they need to say radioactive seafood. japanese have been eating seafood for hundreds of years. its more of a staple than red meat or fowl for them. if seafood is the cause, then check the radiation from seafood first. STOP KILLING YOUR OWN PEOPLE. stupid government.
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Stop it Japan.

The armed forces made a false video.

The hole which does not exist is photographed.


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Stop it Japan.

The armed forces made a false video.

The hole which does not exist is photographed.


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Hole wa doko desuka?
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That's just a conicidence.
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That's just a conicidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26196396


Please tell me what because i dont get. it!
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That's just a conicidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26196396


Please tell me what because i dont get. it!
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Stress related
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There was no hole in the center of a UNIT1-4 before explosion.

Exclude UNIT2 after UNIT1 explosion.

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