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Help UFO-tards!!! I never believed until we just saw a black triangle. Is is manmade or what?

 
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I have to agree with the man-made theory. Like I said earlier in the thread, my dad was attached to a top secret radar project located in the Southwest in his Air Force days in the 1950's. When I was a teen in the 1970's, he and some of his Air Force buddies told me about some of the things they were privy to.

They told me that the US had technology that was 500 to 1000 years more advanced than anything the rest of the world had, even the Soviets, and we weren't sharing the tech with anyone. Not even our allies.

When I asked about aliens, they laughed it off and told me that most of the technology was 'rediscovered' and had existed on Earth in prehistoric times. So, I guess they were telling me that this tech didn't come from captured alien craft.

I was a firm believer in alien visitation and I had my doubts that they were telling me the truth until I started reading Joseph P. Farrell's books. Farrell is a must-read for anyone who is interested in the subject of paleoscience and paleotechnology, and also why the Nazis were so interested in middle-eastern legends.

You will probably want to dismiss some of what he has to say until you do a serious study of the illuminati and free-masonry. I would suggest Jim Marrs 'Fourth Reich' book as a preface to any of Farrell's Nazi books.
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There's only one small problem...

Where did it come from?
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I have seen two in my life. The ones I saw were huge and silent and just hung in the air at a slight angle. On one of the occasions I actually witnessed the craft fade out as if it were a mirage. Both events lasted at least 5 minutes. One event I was with just one other person. The other event I was with about a dozen friends on a party boat on a lake and everyone saw it. Needless to say it was all anyone would talk about all night.
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Ya know, it did seem like the one we saw faded away, too, but it happened in the distance near some high clouds so I assumed it went behind them, but I'm not really sure. Well that raises yet another question...
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TR-6 "Telos"

The TR6 utilizes five electrogravitic generators for propulsion and is considered a “VTOL” craft not needing a runway. The landing gear is strictly for maneuvering while on the ground. The wings fold for hangar stowage. Currently there are only a handful of hangars in the world that can accept the TR6, with most of them in the US.

The entire airframe acts as a multi-band communications relay capable of directly interfacing with all current US military satellite networks. The skin employs active visual camouflage using a ‘starfield’ lighting pattern along with other active stealth techniques. The TELOS platform is also capable of operating in space as well as docking with military space stations via a ventral docking hatch.

image [link to www.theobjectreport.com]
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Nope. Absolutely did not look like that. But thanks.
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TR-6 "Telos"

The TR6 utilizes five electrogravitic generators for propulsion and is considered a “VTOL” craft not needing a runway. The landing gear is strictly for maneuvering while on the ground. The wings fold for hangar stowage. Currently there are only a handful of hangars in the world that can accept the TR6, with most of them in the US.

The entire airframe acts as a multi-band communications relay capable of directly interfacing with all current US military satellite networks. The skin employs active visual camouflage using a ‘starfield’ lighting pattern along with other active stealth techniques. The TELOS platform is also capable of operating in space as well as docking with military space stations via a ventral docking hatch.

image [link to www.theobjectreport.com]
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Nope. Absolutely did not look like that. But thanks.
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I didn't think it would , you probably saw the TR-3B.

The TR-6 is what people saw at the phoenix lights.

This video is a TR-3A Black Manta the TR-3B looks the same but has no tailfins.

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My daughter and I saw one of these Saturday night at dusk over mid-town St. Louis. Unbelievable. I couldn't believe my daughter noticed it and it took a while for me to find what she was going on about (eleven year olds often say odd things), but there it was, dark and silent with faint lighting on the sides so that it was barely visible. Since it looked kind of small, I'd say it must have been very high, as it disappeared above some high cirrus clouds.

Here I thought it was a 2012 thing, but it seems they've been seen for many years, and sometimes up close.

Anybody know anything???
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USAF : X51 - WaveRider ?
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There's nothing triangular in the X51, but I think what I saw would eat something like that for lunch...
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TR-6 "Telos"

The TR6 utilizes five electrogravitic generators for propulsion and is considered a “VTOL” craft not needing a runway. The landing gear is strictly for maneuvering while on the ground. The wings fold for hangar stowage. Currently there are only a handful of hangars in the world that can accept the TR6, with most of them in the US.

The entire airframe acts as a multi-band communications relay capable of directly interfacing with all current US military satellite networks. The skin employs active visual camouflage using a ‘starfield’ lighting pattern along with other active stealth techniques. The TELOS platform is also capable of operating in space as well as docking with military space stations via a ventral docking hatch.

image [link to www.theobjectreport.com]
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Nope. Absolutely did not look like that. But thanks.
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I'll share a bit more.
Based on the characteristics I've witnessed I'll go with lighter than air craft, with some rigid frame work, powered by something much less exotic than any purported anti-grav.

Reasoning:

In the seventies an ion propulsion drive for deep space was whipped up.
As well, LM came up with a very large lighter than air ship design on paper, single wing style, as an observation platform.
The black triangles started being seen in the late 70s on a larger-scale basis (relatively speaking).

It's quite possible the two concepts were married.

I suspect air ship, whiz bang comparatively speaking when considering more mundane dirigibles.
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There's got to be more to the story than this. Anyone?

bump
 Quoting: OP 28076126


Aliens are demonic, the black triangles are the man-made ufos.
[link to www.alienresistance.org]
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BTW, O.P., here is my previous post in this thread:

"I've seen a so-called black triangle three times.

Once in '97.

Twice this year. I suspect flying to and leaving a supposedly largely deserted air strip in another country that once served for U.S. during Nam.
Though this airstrip does have 24/7 security.

I've worked in aerospace: civilian, military, space (man-rated space vehicles).

My conclusion, thus far, is this:

Probably a lighter than air craft.
Due to the the zero sound factor it could well be scooting along with ion propulsion (developed for deep space travel... it could be adapted for a lighter than air craft in our atmosphere).

That's all I have.
I do know that what I've see is/are, "one of ours," due to the circumstances surrounding the '97 encounter... As well as this year."
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My daughter and I saw one of these Saturday night at dusk over mid-town St. Louis. Unbelievable. I couldn't believe my daughter noticed it and it took a while for me to find what she was going on about (eleven year olds often say odd things), but there it was, dark and silent with faint lighting on the sides so that it was barely visible. Since it looked kind of small, I'd say it must have been very high, as it disappeared above some high cirrus clouds.

Here I thought it was a 2012 thing, but it seems they've been seen for many years, and sometimes up close.

Anybody know anything???
 Quoting: Uncle Alyosha 28065796



USAF : X51 - WaveRider ?
 Quoting: Ulysses31


There's nothing triangular in the X51, but I think what I saw would eat something like that for lunch...
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i agree

what i saw, which is the same as what you saw, would chew up and spit out ANY of the 'normal' aircraft we all know.

Dom Rep I saw mine. it went from overhead to the horizon, in a couple of seconds, utterly silently. awesome stuff.
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i agree

what i saw, which is the same as what you saw, would chew up and spit out ANY of the 'normal' aircraft we all know.

Dom Rep I saw mine. it went from overhead to the horizon, in a couple of seconds, utterly silently. awesome stuff.
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It has been reported on the web the top speed of a TR-3B is 13,000,000 yes million MPH and travels from ground level to orbit in 10 seconds , so yes pretty quick.
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i agree

what i saw, which is the same as what you saw, would chew up and spit out ANY of the 'normal' aircraft we all know.

Dom Rep I saw mine. it went from overhead to the horizon, in a couple of seconds, utterly silently. awesome stuff.
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It has been reported on the web the top speed of a TR-3B is 13,000,000 yes million MPH and travels from ground level to orbit in 10 seconds , so yes pretty quick.
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Well, if it's been reported on the web...uhm...take it with a grain of salt, I'd say...if the tr-3b exists at all...which I'm REALLY wondering about.

I know, I know - I've got research to do - lots and lots of research, before I start mocking this tr-3b.
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i agree

what i saw, which is the same as what you saw, would chew up and spit out ANY of the 'normal' aircraft we all know.

Dom Rep I saw mine. it went from overhead to the horizon, in a couple of seconds, utterly silently. awesome stuff.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28150532


It has been reported on the web the top speed of a TR-3B is 13,000,000 yes million MPH and travels from ground level to orbit in 10 seconds , so yes pretty quick.
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Well, if it's been reported on the web...uhm...take it with a grain of salt, I'd say...if the tr-3b exists at all...which I'm REALLY wondering about.

I know, I know - I've got research to do - lots and lots of research, before I start mocking this tr-3b.
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It's misdirection.
"True believers," will cry shill.
I expect to hear the Shrill Shill Cry any post now in this thread

But they haven't been out to Tonopah, aka area 52, to witness any trials or operations.
It is all net myth that true believers.... latch onto... and espouse as fact.
In fact, it is hilarious that so many come on the net and act as knowledgeable, "experts," with nothing more than net pages read.

Actual experience and knowledge is very, very rare with regard to much of what is hashed over at the GLP.
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And, I'll go a bit further.

If anyone came here, "in the know," there would be agreements signed.
They could and would only go so far.

Acceptable is pointing to things already allowed out, however obscurely in journals/industry publications, and offering a, "connect the dots," approach.

Good luck in sorting things out.

At least you may well be reasonably assured that you didn't see a craft with et on board.
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i agree

what i saw, which is the same as what you saw, would chew up and spit out ANY of the 'normal' aircraft we all know.

Dom Rep I saw mine. it went from overhead to the horizon, in a couple of seconds, utterly silently. awesome stuff.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28150532


It has been reported on the web the top speed of a TR-3B is 13,000,000 yes million MPH and travels from ground level to orbit in 10 seconds , so yes pretty quick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28145310


Well, if it's been reported on the web...uhm...take it with a grain of salt, I'd say...if the tr-3b exists at all...which I'm REALLY wondering about.

I know, I know - I've got research to do - lots and lots of research, before I start mocking this tr-3b.
 Quoting: op 28227256


It's misdirection.
"True believers," will cry shill.
I expect to hear the Shrill Shill Cry any post now in this thread

But they haven't been out to Tonopah, aka area 52, to witness any trials or operations.
It is all net myth that true believers.... latch onto... and espouse as fact.
In fact, it is hilarious that so many come on the net and act as knowledgeable, "experts," with nothing more than net pages read.

Actual experience and knowledge is very, very rare with regard to much of what is hashed over at the GLP.
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I certainly agree. And perhaps that's why I used to take UFOs with a BIG grain of salt. So many people who claim this and that about UFOs have FAILED in the 'prophecies' handed down to them by 'ET contacts'. Seeing is the only way I'd believe in them after all that.

Funny thing is I NEVER spent a second thinking about looking for UFOs. Sure, I like to keep track of the major stars and planets, especially lately, and a satellite or two, but this sighting happened with no warning, and I froze with mouth wide open.

Now I'm waiting for a cloudless evening (tonight?) to scan the skies, just in case...
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every ufo is manmade, and by the way, aliens do not exist. the alien propaganda is a government shit, to keep us under fear.
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That's bullshit- I would be more afraid of the government having these things than Aliens coming to earth
It is a lot easier to lie when you are the only one who knows the truth than it is to find the truth when all you know is lies.

Remember people the revolution starts with you.
Sorry my mistake.
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Change begins with.....nope that begins with C
Hold on I am sure I will get this.
Progress begin....damn.

Oh I got it
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They come from Dudley, check out the "Dudley Dorito"
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There's got to be more to the story than this. Anyone?

bump
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Aliens are demonic, the black triangles are the man-made ufos.
[link to www.alienresistance.org]
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Demonic?

You might have them confused with -

pope2
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The Belgian UFO wave peaked with the events of the night of 30/31 March 1990. On that night unknown objects were tracked on radar, chased by two Belgian Air Force F-16's, photographed, and were sighted by an estimated 13,500 people on the ground – 2,600 of whom filed written statements describing in detail what they had seen. Following the incident the Belgian air force released a report detailing the events of that night.


Over the next hour the two scrambled F-16s attempted nine separate interceptions of the targets. On three occasions they managed to obtain a radar lock for a few seconds but each time the targets changed position and speed so rapidly that the lock was broken. During the first radar lock, the target accelerated from 240 km/h to over 1,770 km/h while changing altitude from 2,700 m to 1,500 m, then up to 3,350 m before descending to almost ground level – the first descent of more than 900 m taking less than two seconds. Similar manoeuvres were observed during both subsequent radar locks. On no occasion were the F-16 pilots able to make visual contact with the targets and at no point, despite the speeds involved, was there any indication of a sonic boom.


During this time, ground witnesses broadly corroborate the information obtained by radar. They described seeing the smaller triangle completely disappear from sight at one point, while the larger triangle moved upwards very rapidly as the F-16s flew past. After 00:30 radar contact became much more sporadic and the final confirmed lock took place at 00:40. This final lock was once again broken by an acceleration from around 160 km/h to 1,120 km/h.
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The Belgian UFO wave peaked with the events of the night of 30/31 March 1990. On that night unknown objects were tracked on radar, chased by two Belgian Air Force F-16's, photographed, and were sighted by an estimated 13,500 people on the ground – 2,600 of whom filed written statements describing in detail what they had seen. Following the incident the Belgian air force released a report detailing the events of that night.


Over the next hour the two scrambled F-16s attempted nine separate interceptions of the targets. On three occasions they managed to obtain a radar lock for a few seconds but each time the targets changed position and speed so rapidly that the lock was broken. During the first radar lock, the target accelerated from 240 km/h to over 1,770 km/h while changing altitude from 2,700 m to 1,500 m, then up to 3,350 m before descending to almost ground level – the first descent of more than 900 m taking less than two seconds. Similar manoeuvres were observed during both subsequent radar locks. On no occasion were the F-16 pilots able to make visual contact with the targets and at no point, despite the speeds involved, was there any indication of a sonic boom.


During this time, ground witnesses broadly corroborate the information obtained by radar. They described seeing the smaller triangle completely disappear from sight at one point, while the larger triangle moved upwards very rapidly as the F-16s flew past. After 00:30 radar contact became much more sporadic and the final confirmed lock took place at 00:40. This final lock was once again broken by an acceleration from around 160 km/h to 1,120 km/h.
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Cool, thanks AC! I'm now leaning toward: "man-made my ass..." (sorry if that was too graphic)
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Belgian UFO wave peaked with the events of the night of 30/31 March 1990. On that night unknown objects were tracked on radar, chased by two Belgian Air Force F-16's, photographed, and were sighted by an estimated 13,500 people on the ground – 2,600 of whom filed written statements describing in detail what they had seen. Following the incident the Belgian air force released a report detailing the events of that night.


Over the next hour the two scrambled F-16s attempted nine separate interceptions of the targets. On three occasions they managed to obtain a radar lock for a few seconds but each time the targets changed position and speed so rapidly that the lock was broken. During the first radar lock, the target accelerated from 240 km/h to over 1,770 km/h while changing altitude from 2,700 m to 1,500 m, then up to 3,350 m before descending to almost ground level – the first descent of more than 900 m taking less than two seconds. Similar manoeuvres were observed during both subsequent radar locks. On no occasion were the F-16 pilots able to make visual contact with the targets and at no point, despite the speeds involved, was there any indication of a sonic boom.


During this time, ground witnesses broadly corroborate the information obtained by radar. They described seeing the smaller triangle completely disappear from sight at one point, while the larger triangle moved upwards very rapidly as the F-16s flew past. After 00:30 radar contact became much more sporadic and the final confirmed lock took place at 00:40. This final lock was once again broken by an acceleration from around 160 km/h to 1,120 km/h.
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Cool, thanks AC! I'm now leaning toward: "man-made my ass..." (sorry if that was too graphic)
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What characteristics did the craft you observed exhibit?
That should be square and center when you look at data supplied over the net.
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In other words, stay centered and keep it real.
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MONTALK.
There is nothing so powerful as truth, and often nothing so strange ~ Daniel Webster

Omnia Vincit Amor ~ Virgil

The more you learn, the less you know ~ Socrates

That writer does the most, who gives his reader the most knowledge, and takes from him the least time. ~ Charles Caleb Colton
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Yes, I too have had the experience.

But mine was exceptionally major special.

It sat on my tree tops over my head while I stood in the driveway at home.

November 2009, 9pm.

After research, I suppose it was a TR-3b.
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TR-3b? Do you think the military would be testing their craft by your driveway? I think it's something else...

The military failed in their last public attempt to fly coast to coast in two hours, didn't they? And even that project cost a fortune. I don't think they are all that advanced as people think. The latest F-15 secret feature is probably just a port to plug in your I-phone or something lame like that.

The world is great at Useless Technology...and getting the sheeple to keep buying more of it...
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Hey OP, sometimes a sighting like that is all what it takes to start a search that will be with you for ever. Anyway, triangle UFOs are most likely supersecret earthly craft, most advanced, nuclear powered, MHD capable hypersonic craft, but even with all these advances are very crude wrt real alien craft.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


Again, I doubt how advanced they are, as they have a history of so many flawed aircraft. How could they actually build something awesome? I doubt they can. OK, maybe the newer F-15 also has a coffee dispenser...
 Quoting: OP 28076126


Germany had a modern stealth fighter in the air in the 1940's.
That's pretty awesome.
Imagine what is out there now, unreleased to the public.
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TR-3b? Do you think the military would be testing their craft by your driveway? I think it's something else...

The military failed in their last public attempt to fly coast to coast in two hours, didn't they? And even that project cost a fortune. I don't think they are all that advanced as people think. The latest F-15 secret feature is probably just a port to plug in your I-phone or something lame like that.

The world is great at Useless Technology...and getting the sheeple to keep buying more of it...
 Quoting: OP 28076126


Hey OP, sometimes a sighting like that is all what it takes to start a search that will be with you for ever. Anyway, triangle UFOs are most likely supersecret earthly craft, most advanced, nuclear powered, MHD capable hypersonic craft, but even with all these advances are very crude wrt real alien craft.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


Again, I doubt how advanced they are, as they have a history of so many flawed aircraft. How could they actually build something awesome? I doubt they can. OK, maybe the newer F-15 also has a coffee dispenser...
 Quoting: OP 28076126


Germany had a modern stealth fighter in the air in the 1940's.
That's pretty awesome.
Imagine what is out there now, unreleased to the public.
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It was the Horten - 229 by the way. Only recently has the US gov released the facts on it. It was captured and reversed engineered.
They had other stuff too.
You should be learning towards man-made.
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Again, I doubt how advanced they are, as they have a history of so many flawed aircraft. How could they actually build something awesome? I doubt they can. OK, maybe the newer F-15 also has a coffee dispenser...
 Quoting: OP 28076126


You might like to research the following names:

Ben Rich

Bush Boyd

Both related to Lockheed, admited we have man made UFOS, and Ben Rich was specific that we already travel to the stars.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


I've started researching these guys. After reading,

"The Air Force has just given us a contract to take ET back home.” – Ben Rich",

well, the BS meter is reading pretty high. But I'll try to keep an open mind. I'll try VERY hard...
 Quoting: OP 28088871

Ben Rich was CEO of Lockeed Skunk Labs. He made thos statements in his deathbed. So, he had nothing to win or loose by stating that. Now, it seems you are skeptic that the triangle craft you saw is from Earth, I'm fine with that, but a triangle ufo does not proof ET technology at all. I'm not saying is not possible, BTW, I'm just saying that there are both ultra secret Earth craft, and non human crafts (non human means either Extraterrestrial, intraterrestrial, and other dimensional).
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


Ben was alleged to have said that

It is a hoax as there is zero confirmation to back up the claim that he ever said anything of the kind
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aliens come from hell, this is truth. some are real technology we basicly stolen from mars/moon... why do u think so many moon pictures are cencored and some are just fallen angels decieving us. preparing everyone for a damnation in hell with false beliefs. Think about it. if aliens are real they would not know hate/war, because with technology to travel across the universe then 1 evil alien would surly of blown there whole race to pieces or maybe even the universe for this matter. If they where real then they would only know peace and love. and for this reason you must ask yourself "why would aliens fly around and watch us kill ourselfs, and goto war for no reason, why would they scare us with unkown objects flying around... other then the simple fact.. they are evil! Look up abductions or some spiritual demonic places on earth you will find 1 thing in common... the smell of sulfer.... sulfur=hell.
Start with amityville horrow.

here is link about aliens are from hell. it has the most unbelievable pictures and videos you ever seen.

[link to www.youtube.com]

i know its hard to believe but you must wake up my friends this is truth
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The Belgian UFO wave peaked with the events of the night of 30/31 March 1990. On that night unknown objects were tracked on radar, chased by two Belgian Air Force F-16's, photographed, and were sighted by an estimated 13,500 people on the ground – 2,600 of whom filed written statements describing in detail what they had seen. Following the incident the Belgian air force released a report detailing the events of that night.


Over the next hour the two scrambled F-16s attempted nine separate interceptions of the targets. On three occasions they managed to obtain a radar lock for a few seconds but each time the targets changed position and speed so rapidly that the lock was broken. During the first radar lock, the target accelerated from 240 km/h to over 1,770 km/h while changing altitude from 2,700 m to 1,500 m, then up to 3,350 m before descending to almost ground level – the first descent of more than 900 m taking less than two seconds. Similar manoeuvres were observed during both subsequent radar locks. On no occasion were the F-16 pilots able to make visual contact with the targets and at no point, despite the speeds involved, was there any indication of a sonic boom.


During this time, ground witnesses broadly corroborate the information obtained by radar. They described seeing the smaller triangle completely disappear from sight at one point, while the larger triangle moved upwards very rapidly as the F-16s flew past. After 00:30 radar contact became much more sporadic and the final confirmed lock took place at 00:40. This final lock was once again broken by an acceleration from around 160 km/h to 1,120 km/h.
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Cool, thanks AC! I'm now leaning toward: "man-made my ass..." (sorry if that was too graphic)
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What characteristics did the craft you observed exhibit?
That should be square and center when you look at data supplied over the net.
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It was just a large black triangle with little or no lighting and no noise, barely detectable in the night sky. It was too far away to see any features, but it was just ominous to see that thing invading St. Louis' airspace, without radar detecting it, I assume...

I drew a picture of it, but it's so simple - just a perfect triangle, black, against a nearly black sky. I still can't believe my daughter spotted it - like a needle in a haystack. At the time I didn't even think to look for others...or to alert the national guard...
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Re: Help UFO-tards!!! I never believed until we just saw a black triangle. Is is manmade or what?
aliens come from hell, this is truth. some are real technology we basicly stolen from mars/moon... why do u think so many moon pictures are cencored and some are just fallen angels decieving us. preparing everyone for a damnation in hell with false beliefs. Think about it. if aliens are real they would not know hate/war, because with technology to travel across the universe then 1 evil alien would surly of blown there whole race to pieces or maybe even the universe for this matter. If they where real then they would only know peace and love. and for this reason you must ask yourself "why would aliens fly around and watch us kill ourselfs, and goto war for no reason, why would they scare us with unkown objects flying around... other then the simple fact.. they are evil! Look up abductions or some spiritual demonic places on earth you will find 1 thing in common... the smell of sulfer.... sulfur=hell.
Start with amityville horrow.

here is link about aliens are from hell. it has the most unbelievable pictures and videos you ever seen.

[link to www.youtube.com]

i know its hard to believe but you must wake up my friends this is truth
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I'll check out the video in a bit, but I do believe that there is no hell. Even in the Bible, hell is misunderstood due to translation. And most NDEers, except for those crazy Catholics, agree that hell doesn't exist. Not even for Hitler or Stalin...
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Belgian UFO wave peaked with the events of the night of 30/31 March 1990. On that night unknown objects were tracked on radar, chased by two Belgian Air Force F-16's, photographed, and were sighted by an estimated 13,500 people on the ground – 2,600 of whom filed written statements describing in detail what they had seen. Following the incident the Belgian air force released a report detailing the events of that night.


Over the next hour the two scrambled F-16s attempted nine separate interceptions of the targets. On three occasions they managed to obtain a radar lock for a few seconds but each time the targets changed position and speed so rapidly that the lock was broken. During the first radar lock, the target accelerated from 240 km/h to over 1,770 km/h while changing altitude from 2,700 m to 1,500 m, then up to 3,350 m before descending to almost ground level – the first descent of more than 900 m taking less than two seconds. Similar manoeuvres were observed during both subsequent radar locks. On no occasion were the F-16 pilots able to make visual contact with the targets and at no point, despite the speeds involved, was there any indication of a sonic boom.


During this time, ground witnesses broadly corroborate the information obtained by radar. They described seeing the smaller triangle completely disappear from sight at one point, while the larger triangle moved upwards very rapidly as the F-16s flew past. After 00:30 radar contact became much more sporadic and the final confirmed lock took place at 00:40. This final lock was once again broken by an acceleration from around 160 km/h to 1,120 km/h.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28145310


Cool, thanks AC! I'm now leaning toward: "man-made my ass..." (sorry if that was too graphic)
 Quoting: OP 18715863


What characteristics did the craft you observed exhibit?
That should be square and center when you look at data supplied over the net.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28089936


It was just a large black triangle with little or no lighting and no noise, barely detectable in the night sky. It was too far away to see any features, but it was just ominous to see that thing invading St. Louis' airspace, without radar detecting it, I assume...

I drew a picture of it, but it's so simple - just a perfect triangle, black, against a nearly black sky. I still can't believe my daughter spotted it - like a needle in a haystack. At the time I didn't even think to look for others...or to alert the national guard...
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If you had called the national guard, had called the FAA, had called the local air force base....

It would have been to zero avail... as far as your personal satisfaction would have been concerned.
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Meaning...

there are things played over the heads of the general populace...

Literally.

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