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Help UFO-tards!!! I never believed until we just saw a black triangle. Is is manmade or what?

 
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Anything that is triangle shaped sounds like it's way more likely to be of terrestrial origins.

The only reason very unique shaped objects are more interesting is because they don't conform to known manmade craft and inch closer to possibly being from non-Earth civilizations.

A UFO that isn't extraterrestrial is a big snooze.
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And...as reference to demons has entered this thread....

I'll further muddy the waters, thicken the plot.

But I am going to, at the same time, throw a rope.

1st.

Illusions R Us.
Magicians, as in Magick (pick a discipline that arrives at same), who have gone far enough, Know well about conjuring... and being, "visited."
Often enough it is in a sci-fi context in this age... until seeing through the projection, the illusion... for what it is....

Those not initiated... bystanders.... believe they've seen something extra-terrestrial... when they've really seen something extra-dimensional that has been around since when....


2nd.

Craft made on this earth.
And not the supra-exotic things that meld into sci-fi that are purported on the web.

Things that are unknown to a general populace.
That could well seem, "other-worldly."

There.

As a well-rounded citizen of various shenanigans, occult and wordly... I've actually given you some...


TRUTH
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The fact that these flying triangles have no definitive explanation after all of these years...is puzzling. It would take thousands of people to develop something like them, if zero gravity, mass-cancelling technology is even possible, and then many of them would spill the beans, as humans do. This book is still wide open...
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The fact that these flying triangles have no definitive explanation after all of these years...is puzzling. It would take thousands of people to develop something like them, if zero gravity, mass-cancelling technology is even possible, and then many of them would spill the beans, as humans do. This book is still wide open...
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Ever heard of the Manhattan Project?

Fast forward.

These days...

Spilling the beans is Extremely Costly.

At this stage of the game, with the available technology to bring to bear to punish....

Shit. Those who know surely won't tell.
For fear they'll get more of a dose than already applied.

Meaning those who would tell have already had a Big Dose in the trajectory.

You just don't know what the phuque you are talking about.
And you have zero idea about what can happen.
There are worse things than dying.
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And that is not to verify the validy of claims to zero gravity.

Not at all.

The Techno-Guns are brought to bear upon any number of would be, "sharers."
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Bottom Line:

Ignore the ramblings of the posting under the AC number that corresponds with this post.

Just vapid contributions to a continually expanding culture of fear and control.
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And so I sign off from GLP ramblings.
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And...

how was that for a spate of web drama????

tounge
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Yes.

Just further muddying of the water.

What else is new?

At least I am semi-transparent.

My handlers will be pleased.
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Germany had a modern stealth fighter in the air in the 1940's.
That's pretty awesome.
Imagine what is out there now, unreleased to the public.
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The Messerschmidt was not a 'modern stealth fighter'. If they would have had those, the Battle of Britain would not have been lost by the Nazis
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Hey OP, you around ?
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My daughter and I saw one of these Saturday night at dusk over mid-town St. Louis. Unbelievable. I couldn't believe my daughter noticed it and it took a while for me to find what she was going on about (eleven year olds often say odd things), but there it was, dark and silent with faint lighting on the sides so that it was barely visible. Since it looked kind of small, I'd say it must have been very high, as it disappeared above some high cirrus clouds.

Here I thought it was a 2012 thing, but it seems they've been seen for many years, and sometimes up close.

Anybody know anything???
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Some of the most famous and most recent UFO sightings have taken place around the St.louis Mo area. It seems as if the black triangle ones are local.

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Back on January 5, 2000 police officers and citizens of St. Clair County in Southern Illinois claim to have spotted a large, triangular unidentified flying object. Folks from Highland to Millstadt claim to have seen the object, and all described it as a big thick hovering triangle. However other than one blurry Polaroid snapshot, there were no photographs or videos to back up the eye witness claims.

Scott Air Force Base is directly below the UFO’s alleged flight path, which made “military exercise” the most likely answer to these reported sightings. Alas, the airfield was closed that night, as was the control tower, and the military has denied any aerial exercises took place on the evening in question. – jaunted


St.clair county is located just 20 mins from downtown st.louis.
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Two Illinois witnesses standing outside October 14, 2011, report watching a "triangle shaped UFO" with a humming noise and lights arranged in a V-shape just a few hundred feet away and a few hundred feet in the air, according to testimony from the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) witness reporting database.
 
The object appeared solid and at times transparent.

The object was just a few hundred feet away and a few hundred feet in the air when the two Illinois witnesses watched it move, and then disappear
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Only a prison if you don't
have Jesus to free your mind,
spirit and soul.
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How do you know Jesus isn't sitting in one of those?

cruise
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Police, witnesses spotted ‘UFO’ strange lights over Illinois – Oct 23, 2012
Posted on October 25, 2012


According to the Monroe County Independent Hecker resident spotted a unidentified flying object northeast of Hecker, IL
on Tuesday just after 7pm.  County police patrolled the area near Paderborn. Officers say the object remained stationary and twinkled with red, green, blue and orange light.

The Monroe County Independent reported on its Facebook page that the witness saw the light hovering just over the horizon. They said the light would shift colors (red, green, blue and orange) and appeared to be stationary.

Deputies from Monroe and St. Clair counties responded to the area and reported seeing the same light. After 8 p.m., a second object was spotted over the Freeburg area. Witnesses said the second object was similar in shape and size and also shifted colors from orange, red, blue and green
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OCTOBER 20, 2006 - TRIANGLE RETURNS TO HIGHLAND, ILLINOIS 

ILLINOIS COUPLE WITNESS  FLYING TRIANGLE DIRECTLY OVER THEIR HOME

BY DARRYL BARKER*



Figure 1, above: Witness Sketch of October 20, 2006 Triangular Craft

On October 23, 2006, I received a phone call  from a  southern Illinois resident  who reports that he and his wife witnessed an unidentified flying object at 4:50am on Friday, October 20, 2006. The witness's home is located just south of Highland, Illinois, in an open, rural setting. The couple's home is surrounded by open farm land.
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This link may help you OP. I would say if your looking for answers then look further into the v shaped / triangle crafts & Illinois. I'm sure that you will certainly figure out if you haven't already that a lot of these sightings are near Scott Airforce base but I think that the Airforce facility which was built in southern Illinois was built there for a reason. Southern Illinois has been referred to as Little Egypt for well over 100 years. I think these v shaped UFOs are probly man made but that still leaves a lot of questions left to be answered.

[link to dbarkertv.com]
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Germany had a modern stealth fighter in the air in the 1940's.
That's pretty awesome.
Imagine what is out there now, unreleased to the public.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13583316

The Messerschmidt was not a 'modern stealth fighter'. If they would have had those, the Battle of Britain would not have been lost by the Nazis
 Quoting: RoXY


I'm not referring to any model of Messerschmidt aircraft but the Horten 229, the world's first stealth plane which was designed to counteract the new radar tech the Allies were using. But you're right, had they gone into full production by the "Battle of Britain" the Allies would have been toast as they would have never seen them coming. Recently a model was built and tested,,,,, it was stealth. National geographic filmed the event.

I strongly suggest taking a look at the craft, as the implications it brings about are vast.
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This link may help you OP. I would say if your looking for answers then look further into the v shaped / triangle crafts & Illinois. I'm sure that you will certainly figure out if you haven't already that a lot of these sightings are near Scott Airforce base but I think that the Airforce facility which was built in southern Illinois was built there for a reason. Southern Illinois has been referred to as Little Egypt for well over 100 years. I think these v shaped UFOs are probly man made but that still leaves a lot of questions left to be answered.

[link to dbarkertv.com]
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Sorry I couldn't be here for a while. Thanksgiving commitments. I'll be back when possible.

Thanks for your input and for this link. While it seems that St. Louie has had its share of Triangles, still no where near what they've seen on the coasts and in the UK, for example. And in all there isn't really THAT much in the local news when I searched.
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Germany had a modern stealth fighter in the air in the 1940's.
That's pretty awesome.
Imagine what is out there now, unreleased to the public.
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The Messerschmidt was not a 'modern stealth fighter'. If they would have had those, the Battle of Britain would not have been lost by the Nazis
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Good one. Interesting how many 'facts' there are out there.
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Yes.

Just further muddying of the water.

What else is new?

At least I am semi-transparent.

My handlers will be pleased.
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If your handlers are like me, they're scratching their heads right now. Only serious contributions please...in the English, or Russian, language. Actually any language is fine...

By the way, I regret to inform everyone that I did not see any triangles in the sky yesterday evening after 4 minutes of observation. Jupiter is lookin' good though... Wonder what that thing is up to...
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This link may help you OP. I would say if your looking for answers then look further into the v shaped / triangle crafts & Illinois. I'm sure that you will certainly figure out if you haven't already that a lot of these sightings are near Scott Airforce base but I think that the Airforce facility which was built in southern Illinois was built there for a reason. Southern Illinois has been referred to as Little Egypt for well over 100 years. I think these v shaped UFOs are probly man made but that still leaves a lot of questions left to be answered.

[link to dbarkertv.com]
 Quoting: YOUCITY 18850702


Sorry I couldn't be here for a while. Thanksgiving commitments. I'll be back when possible.

Thanks for your input and for this link. While it seems that St. Louie has had its share of Triangles, still no where near what they've seen on the coasts and in the UK, for example. And in all there isn't really THAT much in the local news when I searched.
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No OP, I think you may be wrong. There definitly seems to be a base in the area that these triangle UFOs are coming from and there's Probobly a similar one in the area you mentioned. They are all Probobly connected to the famous sighting of the triangle UFO in Phoenix which seemed to be connected to the hollywood/military industrial complex. I think that the diffrent factions might have diffrent ships , you know what I'm trying to say?
These black triangles are all from the same faction I think.

Illinois has had more reported sightings on MUFON than California in a number of months in the past year and a half or so.
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Germany had a modern stealth fighter in the air in the 1940's.
That's pretty awesome.
Imagine what is out there now, unreleased to the public.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13583316

The Messerschmidt was not a 'modern stealth fighter'. If they would have had those, the Battle of Britain would not have been lost by the Nazis
 Quoting: RoXY


I'm not referring to any model of Messerschmidt aircraft but the Horten 229, the world's first stealth plane which was designed to counteract the new radar tech the Allies were using. But you're right, had they gone into full production by the "Battle of Britain" the Allies would have been toast as they would have never seen them coming. Recently a model was built and tested,,,,, it was stealth. National geographic filmed the event.

I strongly suggest taking a look at the craft, as the implications it brings about are vast.
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HORTON 229 Hitlers Stealth Fighter



General Characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 7.47 m (24 ft 6 in)
Wingspan: 16.76 m (55 ft 0 in)
Height: 2.81 m (9 ft 2 in)
Wing area: 50.20 m² (540.35 ft²)
Empty weight: 4,600 kg (10,141 lb)
Loaded weight: 6,912 kg (15,238 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 8,100 kg (17,857 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Junkers Jumo 004B turbojet, 8.7 kN (1,956 lbf) each
Performance
Maximum speed: 977km/h
Service ceiling: 16,000 m (52,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 22 m/s (4,330 ft/min)
Wing loading: 137.7 kg/m² (28.2 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 0.26
Armament
Guns: 4 × 30 mm MK 108 cannon
Rockets: R4M rockets
Bombs: 2 × 500 kg (1,100 lb) bombs
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This link may help you OP. I would say if your looking for answers then look further into the v shaped / triangle crafts & Illinois. I'm sure that you will certainly figure out if you haven't already that a lot of these sightings are near Scott Airforce base but I think that the Airforce facility which was built in southern Illinois was built there for a reason. Southern Illinois has been referred to as Little Egypt for well over 100 years. I think these v shaped UFOs are probly man made but that still leaves a lot of questions left to be answered.

[link to dbarkertv.com]
 Quoting: YOUCITY 18850702


Sorry I couldn't be here for a while. Thanksgiving commitments. I'll be back when possible.

Thanks for your input and for this link. While it seems that St. Louie has had its share of Triangles, still no where near what they've seen on the coasts and in the UK, for example. And in all there isn't really THAT much in the local news when I searched.
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No OP, I think you may be wrong. There definitly seems to be a base in the area that these triangle UFOs are coming from and there's Probobly a similar one in the area you mentioned. They are all Probobly connected to the famous sighting of the triangle UFO in Phoenix which seemed to be connected to the hollywood/military industrial complex. I think that the diffrent factions might have diffrent ships , you know what I'm trying to say?
These black triangles are all from the same faction I think.

Illinois has had more reported sightings on MUFON than California in a number of months in the past year and a half or so.
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I'll keep looking into this, but I think most people haven't seen these things or have even heard of them. When I tell people, they give me the same look that I would have given them less than a week ago. That low profile flyover last Saturday seemed to be a private show just for me and my daughter, out of some 2 million people around us...

And, commenting on an earlier post, it would be impossible to hide the craft at Scott AF Base, for example, with a huge civilian population in and around the base.
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This link may help you OP. I would say if your looking for answers then look further into the v shaped / triangle crafts & Illinois. I'm sure that you will certainly figure out if you haven't already that a lot of these sightings are near Scott Airforce base but I think that the Airforce facility which was built in southern Illinois was built there for a reason. Southern Illinois has been referred to as Little Egypt for well over 100 years. I think these v shaped UFOs are probly man made but that still leaves a lot of questions left to be answered.

[link to dbarkertv.com]
 Quoting: YOUCITY 18850702


Sorry I couldn't be here for a while. Thanksgiving commitments. I'll be back when possible.

Thanks for your input and for this link. While it seems that St. Louie has had its share of Triangles, still no where near what they've seen on the coasts and in the UK, for example. And in all there isn't really THAT much in the local news when I searched.
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No OP, I think you may be wrong. There definitly seems to be a base in the area that these triangle UFOs are coming from and there's Probobly a similar one in the area you mentioned. They are all Probobly connected to the famous sighting of the triangle UFO in Phoenix which seemed to be connected to the hollywood/military industrial complex. I think that the diffrent factions might have diffrent ships , you know what I'm trying to say?
These black triangles are all from the same faction I think.

Illinois has had more reported sightings on MUFON than California in a number of months in the past year and a half or so.
 Quoting: YOUCITY 18850702


I'll keep looking into this, but I think most people haven't seen these things or have even heard of them. When I tell people, they give me the same look that I would have given them less than a week ago. That low profile flyover last Saturday seemed to be a private show just for me and my daughter, out of some 2 million people around us...

And, commenting on an earlier post, it would be impossible to hide the craft at Scott AF Base, for example, with a huge civilian population in and around the base.
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I believe that most of witnesses to UFOs seem to be some kind of personal thing more so than just a coicedence or right place right time thing. I came to GLP after an event that occurred to me in 2007 and before that I had no intrest in aliens or Freemasons or anything like that. I've been doing research ever since and I've found more than I would have ever even imagined and so much of it happens to be in this area. Have you looked at the at the st.louis Syncronicity thread I started at all ?.
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Sorry I couldn't be here for a while. Thanksgiving commitments. I'll be back when possible.

Thanks for your input and for this link. While it seems that St. Louie has had its share of Triangles, still no where near what they've seen on the coasts and in the UK, for example. And in all there isn't really THAT much in the local news when I searched.
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No OP, I think you may be wrong. There definitly seems to be a base in the area that these triangle UFOs are coming from and there's Probobly a similar one in the area you mentioned. They are all Probobly connected to the famous sighting of the triangle UFO in Phoenix which seemed to be connected to the hollywood/military industrial complex. I think that the diffrent factions might have diffrent ships , you know what I'm trying to say?
These black triangles are all from the same faction I think.

Illinois has had more reported sightings on MUFON than California in a number of months in the past year and a half or so.
 Quoting: YOUCITY 18850702


I'll keep looking into this, but I think most people haven't seen these things or have even heard of them. When I tell people, they give me the same look that I would have given them less than a week ago. That low profile flyover last Saturday seemed to be a private show just for me and my daughter, out of some 2 million people around us...

And, commenting on an earlier post, it would be impossible to hide the craft at Scott AF Base, for example, with a huge civilian population in and around the base.
 Quoting: op 28312464


I believe that most of witnesses to UFOs seem to be some kind of personal thing more so than just a coicedence or right place right time thing. I came to GLP after an event that occurred to me in 2007 and before that I had no intrest in aliens or Freemasons or anything like that. I've been doing research ever since and I've found more than I would have ever even imagined and so much of it happens to be in this area. Have you looked at the at the st.louis Syncronicity thread I started at all ?.
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It's been a while, U. City, since I've looked at that thread. Gotta run now, but will get back to it later...
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aliens come from hell, this is truth. some are real technology we basicly stolen from mars/moon... why do u think so many moon pictures are cencored and some are just fallen angels decieving us. preparing everyone for a damnation in hell with false beliefs. Think about it. if aliens are real they would not know hate/war, because with technology to travel across the universe then 1 evil alien would surly of blown there whole race to pieces or maybe even the universe for this matter. If they where real then they would only know peace and love. and for this reason you must ask yourself "why would aliens fly around and watch us kill ourselfs, and goto war for no reason, why would they scare us with unkown objects flying around... other then the simple fact.. they are evil! Look up abductions or some spiritual demonic places on earth you will find 1 thing in common... the smell of sulfer.... sulfur=hell.
Start with amityville horrow.

here is link about aliens are from hell. it has the most unbelievable pictures and videos you ever seen.

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i know its hard to believe but you must wake up my friends this is truth
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You can say anything you have been brainwashed to say. Stick to your stories and big-book-o-truth. I saw one, with someone else...we were right there, it was right there. No lies, no blown out of proportion add ons, no partying. It stood huge and still right above us. We stood stock still right below it. No question at all in our minds what it was. But until YOU have the experience...you will NEVER believe.
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My daughter and I saw one of these Saturday night at dusk over mid-town St. Louis. Unbelievable. I couldn't believe my daughter noticed it and it took a while for me to find what she was going on about (eleven year olds often say odd things), but there it was, dark and silent with faint lighting on the sides so that it was barely visible. Since it looked kind of small, I'd say it must have been very high, as it disappeared above some high cirrus clouds.

Here I thought it was a 2012 thing, but it seems they've been seen for many years, and sometimes up close.

Anybody know anything???
 Quoting: Uncle Alyosha 28065796


first of all, welcome to the club. you are now an official ufo tard. second of all, in addition to forbidden knowledge tptb have lots of tech that has not been revealed to the public. they like to keep the good stuff for themselves because they can and because it makes them feel special.

keep in mind that nothing unreal exists. since you and another person saw something, that something must be real therefore it exists.

it is very rare to find something that does not already belong to someone or some group.

obviously everyday people do not own such a thing so it must be owned by that which wishes to remain obscure. i'd say it belongs to an eieio agency, the military, space brothers, time travelers, an extra dimensional force or perhaps what you saw belongs to an ancient race of advanced beings that once inhabited the planet stopping by to checkout their old digs.
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My daughter and I saw one of these Saturday night at dusk over mid-town St. Louis. Unbelievable. I couldn't believe my daughter noticed it and it took a while for me to find what she was going on about (eleven year olds often say odd things), but there it was, dark and silent with faint lighting on the sides so that it was barely visible. Since it looked kind of small, I'd say it must have been very high, as it disappeared above some high cirrus clouds.

Here I thought it was a 2012 thing, but it seems they've been seen for many years, and sometimes up close.

Anybody know anything???
 Quoting: Uncle Alyosha 28065796


first of all, welcome to the club. you are now an official ufo tard. second of all, in addition to forbidden knowledge tptb have lots of tech that has not been revealed to the public. they like to keep the good stuff for themselves because they can and because it makes them feel special.

keep in mind that nothing unreal exists. since you and another person saw something, that something must be real therefore it exists.

it is very rare to find something that does not already belong to someone or some group.

obviously everyday people do not own such a thing so it must be owned by that which wishes to remain obscure. i'd say it belongs to an eieio agency, the military, space brothers, time travelers, an extra dimensional force or perhaps what you saw belongs to an ancient race of advanced beings that once inhabited the planet stopping by to checkout their old digs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5788499


Thank you for honoring me with the title, 'ufo tard', and for your take on things. Insightful and thought provoking.

And here's a book I just found, which at first glance seems worthy, but I'm going to research a bit more...

[link to www.ufocasebook.com]

If this book is true, the gov't has nothing to do with these things... Well, at least not all of them.

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