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Homeland Security promotes welfare to new immigrants in government ‘welcome’ materials

 
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11/19/2012 06:25 PM
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Thats good, I dont understand why people hate so much inmigrants
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Thats good, I dont understand why people hate so much inmigrants
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Not immigrants, fuckwit.

Parasites.

Look it up. You probably are one.

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a few states NEED to secede... and do it NOW!
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Damn straight.

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11/19/2012 06:54 PM
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Re: Homeland Security promotes welfare to new immigrants in government ‘welcome’ materials
So, now you freaks are going after LEGAL immigrants too?

You should first check if you don't have any Irish, Italian or German immigrant in your family tree!

If you have, go back to the homeland of your ancestor, Ireland, Italy or Germany!


If you are profiting from a system you did not pay into, you are a parasite. Legal, illegal, Native or Naturalized, you are still a parasite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25582762


when we legally emigrated to NZ, we were told that we were unable to claim any sort of benefits for a minimum of 2 years

no unemployment
no housing
nothing


seemed really fair to me


and babies born here are only citizens if both parents have a permanent legal status here

no visitors or temporary work permits
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when we legally emigrated to NZ, we were told that we were unable to claim any sort of benefits for a minimum of 2 years

no unemployment
no housing
nothing


seemed really fair to me


and babies born here are only citizens if both parents have a permanent legal status here

no visitors or temporary work permits



Entirely sensible.
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Thats good, I dont understand why people hate so much inmigrants
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27703973


Australia and New Zealand enjoy an open relationship

citizens of each country can legally work in the other without any paperwork

NZ provides benefits (welfare) to Australian citizens

but Australia doesn't return the favor
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It is so sickening to see these people destroy this country.
RIP Dimebag Darrell

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If you are profiting from a system you did not pay into, you are a parasite. Legal, illegal, Native or Naturalized, you are still a parasite.
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If a system profiteers from you and exerts willful influence over your existence without being invited to do so, you are a victim.

And if the system depends on your participation for propagation, it is the parasite.
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11/19/2012 07:08 PM
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If a system profiteers from you and exerts willful influence over your existence without being invited to do so, you are a victim.

And if the system depends on your participation for propagation, it is the parasite.


Blah. Blah. Blah.
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11/19/2012 07:11 PM
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If a system profiteers from you and exerts willful influence over your existence without being invited to do so, you are a victim.

And if the system depends on your participation for propagation, it is the parasite.


Blah. Blah. Blah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25582762


System Error.
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11/19/2012 07:13 PM
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this is for legal immigrants, that lawfully became part of the united states

is the code 1488? you nazi fucks!
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11/19/2012 07:19 PM
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this is for legal immigrants, that lawfully became part of the united states

is the code 1488? you nazi fucks!


Are you talking about the nazi fucks who extort tax money from me, by threat of imprisonment, to pay benefits to people who have never paid into the system?

You mean those nazis in DC?
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11/19/2012 07:51 PM
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So, now you freaks are going after LEGAL immigrants too?

You should first check if you don't have any Irish, Italian or German immigrant in your family tree!

If you have, go back to the homeland of your ancestor, Ireland, Italy or Germany!


If you are profiting from a system you did not pay into, you are a parasite. Legal, illegal, Native or Naturalized, you are still a parasite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25582762


when I lived near Danbury CT, there were thousands of Brazilans who had come into the US illegally

that was when the US dollar was much higher, and it was worth their while to work in the US

However, even though I liked some of the illegal workers in CT , it would piss me off that they would taunt me about how they paid zero taxes and got all kinds of benefits

and then one said to me: "why are you so upset? What is it to you? It's not like it's coming out of your pocket..."

they seriously did not understand where money comes from...I think that for many there is this idea of a Big Daddy government who just conjures money out of thin air, and they almost wanted to be admired for learning how to pull a fast one

For example, one lady told me how she had come back to Danbury to have her 2nd child, because the hospitals were so good and the entire thing...from prenatal care to the childbirth, were free for her

not only that, there was an immigrant aid group in CT who gave her free baby formula and diapers for almost a year

What bothered me is that I have friends who would think three times before having a child, because of the cost

Now I'm not picking on Brazilians...they are hardly the only group doing this.

When I got angry, one guy said: you can't blame us, we're just taking advantage of something your people set up....
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Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your new country can do for you.

“Welcome to USA.gov,” a website maintained by the Department of Homeland Security’s U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), bills itself as the “primary gateway for new immigrants to find basic information on how to settle in the United States” — featuring a prominent section for new immigrants about how to access government benefits.

“Depending on your immigration status, length of time in the United States, and income, you may be eligible for some federal benefit programs,” the Web page reads.

“Government assistance programs can be critically important to the well-being of some immigrants and their families. Frequently, however, there is a lack of information about how to access such benefits. Benefit programs can be complicated and you may be given misleading information about how they operate.”

The DHS page offers links to government websites that explain how to access benefits including food stamps, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), Medicaid, Medicare, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) and the “official website with information on all available federal benefit programs,” with a nonworking link to Benefits.gov.

WelcometoUSA.gov also boasts to immigrants that “[f]ree public education for children is one reason many immigrants come to the United States.”


More at [link to dailycaller.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


It is part of their strategy to curb local dissent. Should the American Citizens protest, revolt or strike, they have extra able bodied slave to keep the business going.

Devious, but will eventually be their own demise and backfired.

No evil scheme or plan will be rewarded!
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There is also a box to check on food stamps application that asks "Are you Hispanic?" Nothing else, no other races mentioned and no context, just out of the blue it asks this.

Now we know that's NOT to deny the benefits so what's that all about?
 Quoting: Bluebird


Liberalism at it's finest. Preferential treatment for select races, sexual preferences, and genders.
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11/19/2012 08:07 PM
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This pisses me off, Ive paid taxes since i was 16.

Got my ankle broken getting mugged and a nice head injury that left me with absence seizures.(just black out and tense up lose time....no convulsions)

Got 6 mos of unenjoyment, now I need some assistance at age 41 and have gotten a runaround for 18 mos.

But people sliding off an oil tanker or fish boat get it asap without greif.

Guess I need to lmy house, kid car and most of my life before I get help.

WTF
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1127694




I know! I lost my job (self-employed) and my little farm and even had a damned heart attack and I don't qualify for anything at all!

Most of my life I was a stay-at-home mom and so hadn't paid in enough quarters to qualify for disability unlike many young and apparnetly healthy people. And because I had a small IRA, I didn't qualify for SSI or anything at all.

Not a damned thing and my husband and I paid huge income taxes all the years he lived as he made a very good income.

Now, nothing for me.
 Quoting: Bluebird




With all my years of watching women get preferential treatment, in just about every arena in life, from college grants, small business loans, hiring, to the "justice" system, I have a REALLY difficult time feeling sorry for them. You had a man take care of you (by your own words) most of your life, and now you want big brother to take over the job.

Where's all this "strength" and "independence" we keep hearing all about every day?

P.S. - Your HUSBAND paid huge income taxes. Not your "husband and you".
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11/19/2012 08:08 PM
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This pisses me off, Ive paid taxes since i was 16.

Got my ankle broken getting mugged and a nice head injury that left me with absence seizures.(just black out and tense up lose time....no convulsions)

Got 6 mos of unenjoyment, now I need some assistance at age 41 and have gotten a runaround for 18 mos.

But people sliding off an oil tanker or fish boat get it asap without greif.

Guess I need to lmy house, kid car and most of my life before I get help.


I wonder if you can sue for discrimination. Everyone is supposed to be equal under the law. Class law suits may result as a result of this policy.
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11/19/2012 08:16 PM
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Here's the page -

[link to www.uscis.gov]

This is the PDF file here in English form -

[link to www.uscis.gov]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


WOW! I'm skimming through that PDF file and never knew this?!



If your employer says you must speak English at work, he or she must show that speaking English is required for you to do your job correctly. Your employer must also tell you that English is required before you are hired.
If your employer cannot show that speaking English is required for your job, he or she may be breaking a federal law.

 Quoting: Laura Bow


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Justalittlebad/more or less
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DHS has become an "information booth" for illegal aliens at the expense of legal citizens. Our government has turned against its own. Treasonous.
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This x1000
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24350462


so.....we've become the "welfare bait motel" for immies


yanno - they can all go the fuck back to fuckatania!!!!
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Come on down to Texas and I will take you to the Harris county office that handles these benefits. 100 people will be in line at any given time. A handful can speak English and even fewer than that could prove they are citizens, almost everyone will walk out with money via monthly benefits

They will hop on their late model car and head off to a job that pays cash. Then we can head over to the hospital district where I will show you emergency room full immigrants that have no health care insurance. They will be treated at no cost to them - but at a massive cost to the taxpayer.
 Quoting: TraderRob


Yeah and I got crap from some people here because after working pretty much all of my life I am getting food stamps for a bit. I am grateful for it, it's helped a great deal. I have payed plenty in taxes of the past 36 years so to begrudge me or give me flack for getting a little help doesn't seem fair.

I don't intend to stay on them for the long term. I have to add that a lot of people here are also very nice and understanding.
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Hey Obama voters, that is your welfare benefits they are giving away to the illegals. The pie is only so big. Notice this as you see your benefits cut.
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DHS has become an "information booth" for illegal aliens at the expense of legal citizens. Our government has turned against its own. Treasonous.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27996939


This x1000
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24350462


so.....we've become the "welfare bait motel" for immies


yanno - they can all go the fuck back to fuckatania!!!!
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Come on down to Texas and I will take you to the Harris county office that handles these benefits. 100 people will be in line at any given time. A handful can speak English and even fewer than that could prove they are citizens, almost everyone will walk out with money via monthly benefits

They will hop on their late model car and head off to a job that pays cash. Then we can head over to the hospital district where I will show you emergency room full immigrants that have no health care insurance. They will be treated at no cost to them - but at a massive cost to the taxpayer.
 Quoting: TraderRob


Yeah and I got crap from some people here because after working pretty much all of my life I am getting food stamps for a bit. I am grateful for it, it's helped a great deal. I have payed plenty in taxes of the past 36 years so to begrudge me or give me flack for getting a little help doesn't seem fair.

I don't intend to stay on them for the long term. I have to add that a lot of people here are also very nice and understanding.
 Quoting: geminilion

You know...You worked and paid for these benefits for hard times. The illegals did not. They walked across the Rio Grande under the cover of darkness and walked into the welfare office with their hands out.

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You know...You worked and paid for these benefits for hard times. The illegals did not. They walked across the Rio Grande under the cover of darkness and walked into the welfare office with their hands out.

Or out of an international airport. Lol.
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You know, this is the oddest thing. Or, maybe not if it was planned.

Last summer, you couldn't listen to the radio for even a short drive without hearing a commercial about how you might qualify for food aid, along with the "for instance, did you know you can earn up to....bla bla bla."

They were promoting them, now they are cutting. Interesting, isn't it?
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11/19/2012 09:28 PM
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And do you know what the kicker is? If you or I want to bring someone else into the country -- a girlfriend, boyfriend, fiancee, fiance, wife, husband -- we have to pay through the nose, prove either substantial income or substantial savings, go threw a slew of health tests and vaccinations, and sign on the dotted line that we will be financially responsible for this person for the next 10 years, even if they leave us after 2 weeks.

In other words, U.S. Citizens can find the person of their dreams overseas, disease-free, educated, attractive (good genes for the pool), law-abiding, honest... and it's a herculean task to even get them a visa.

Meanwhile uneducated, disease-ridden, dishonest, scamming, illegal, criminal elements need go through no such trouble. Just get out of the back of a truck, walk into the U.S. and be welcomed with open arms and Dollar bills.

Ain't life great.

(I am in the Philippines, not even considering leaving this country with my girlfriend. Even if I did want to go through all that bullsh!t again, what is there to come back to? In 20 years if not before, the U.S. will be Third World too, but a lot less friendly.)
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Unless I missed an important post, every one of the posts made in this thread are from people who don't get the bigger picture. (Actually the one guy did post about 1965 and deliberate attempts at crashing).

Remember people, how did social security come to be? How about states that did not revoke SSA? Why are you all mad at people who are recipients (beneficiaries) of this system? This is why people will never be free because they are so easily divided and conquered. Now you all hate immigrants, Hispanics maybe? Why? Do you hate them because they benefit from a system that works exactly as designed? Where is your hate and disdain for the people who created the laws?

Never, ever will you be free as long as you point fingers at things and people that matter not. Look to the rulers who are guiding forces with soft hands, so immense, that you cannot see them because of how surrounded you all are. So keep blaming the beneficiaries, or even the fraudsters, because finding every single one of them and prosecuting them will still not change that fact that the system is in place. The SYSTEM.

Also, a common sense question. Do you really think that after the gold was confiscated, after years of people paying into SSA, after exponential growth in interest in this theoretically massive trust fund*, that there would not be enough for everyone? SSA is a tax, it is not a trust fund, you are not entitled to any funds from this money pool.

Divide and conquer, so easy a caveman could do it.
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Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your new country can do for you.

“Welcome to USA.gov,” a website maintained by the Department of Homeland Security’s U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), bills itself as the “primary gateway for new immigrants to find basic information on how to settle in the United States” — featuring a prominent section for new immigrants about how to access government benefits.

“Depending on your immigration status, length of time in the United States, and income, you may be eligible for some federal benefit programs,” the Web page reads.

“Government assistance programs can be critically important to the well-being of some immigrants and their families. Frequently, however, there is a lack of information about how to access such benefits. Benefit programs can be complicated and you may be given misleading information about how they operate.”

The DHS page offers links to government websites that explain how to access benefits including food stamps, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), Medicaid, Medicare, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) and the “official website with information on all available federal benefit programs,” with a nonworking link to Benefits.gov.

WelcometoUSA.gov also boasts to immigrants that “[f]ree public education for children is one reason many immigrants come to the United States.”


More at [link to dailycaller.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


This surprises me! My husband is from the UK and we had to prove that we could support ourselves without public funds. It was a bunch of BS because my Dad had to provide his tax returns and act as a sponsor as I was employed in the UK.
It all turned out fine in the end we got jobs and everything. I just didn't think this was available if you we're immigrating.
Not to mention a green card is expensive!
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...every one of the posts made in this thread are from people who don't get the bigger picture ... Never, ever will you be free as long as you point fingers at things and people that matter not.
 Quoting: think more 25327778


With few exceptions, we all do get the bigger picture. We're not pointing fingers at immigrants, illegal or not. We're pointing fingers at the absurd *situation* as it stands; the *unfairness* of it. Most of us are not idiots on this forum and we are (believe it or not) aware of who is responsible for making and enforcing the laws and who they are designed to benefit and why.

Perhaps you are able to actually *do* something about it, like start your own revolution with a private army, but most of the rest of us can only sit here and gripe about it unfortunately.

If illegal immigrants from Mexico are allowed to come over here, no health checks, no visa, free whatever they need, then so should my Filipino girlfriend who is a lot smarter, educated, healthy, honest, and no burden on the U.S. taxpayer.

As it is, she can't. My U.S. taxes are paying for f*ing illegal immigrants and yet I'm not even allowed to take my girlfriend with me for a 2-week visit back home on a tourist visa.

It's all made a lot worse by the a-hole public "servants" who treat you (you know, the one who pays their salaries) like undeserving scum when you go to any Embassy or other government facility. Meanwhile, those poor, poor illegal immigrants are coddled and assisted from the get-go.

How about using some of the taxpayers' money to coddle and assist the f*ing taxpayers? How's that for a f*ing idea?

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