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Homeland Security promotes welfare to new immigrants in government ‘welcome’ materials

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/19/2012 02:50 PM
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But...."they only want to work" *sarcasm* and.,,,, "They can't collect benefits if their illegal"....."Doing jobs Americans wont do"......BLAH BLAH BLAH.....
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11/19/2012 02:51 PM
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I knew a family with 2 kids 10 years ago. He 50 yo from Iran, she was 30(?) Armenian. They had been given money for rent, paid child care, medical and free english classes and food. They didn't work since even if one of them got a job they would loose all benefits. It was very strange it was almost as the government didn't want them to workhuffy
So they just stayed home for a few years, eventually she found part time job and he work illegally so they were collecting all of the benefits + part time job+ full time job scheming

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11/19/2012 03:03 PM
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a few states NEED to secede... and do it NOW!
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11/19/2012 03:29 PM
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All hail the free shit empire! flag waver
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There is also a box to check on food stamps application that asks "Are you Hispanic?" Nothing else, no other races mentioned and no context, just out of the blue it asks this.

Now we know that's NOT to deny the benefits so what's that all about?
 Quoting: Bluebird


Is it nearby a question that asks about races?

Hispanic is now called an ethnicity not a race, so you can be black hispanic, white hispanic, even asian hispanic.
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11/19/2012 03:31 PM
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I knew a family with 2 kids 10 years ago. He 50 yo from Iran, she was 30(?) Armenian. They had been given money for rent, paid child care, medical and free english classes and food. They didn't work since even if one of them got a job they would loose all benefits. It was very strange it was almost as the government didn't want them to workhuffy
So they just stayed home for a few years, eventually she found part time job and he work illegally so they were collecting all of the benefits + part time job+ full time job scheming
 Quoting: Lilac.Nights


Refugees I guess? Get declared a refugee, I think they take care of you!

This place loves a sob story.
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11/19/2012 03:39 PM
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What really gets me is that when our nation gives Social Security to immigrants, WHO NEVER PAID INTO THE SYSTEM, they get more then my parents get. Why should my parents, who spent their lives running a small family farm, get less then a free loader from another country!!!!

gaah
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


Not only that, but the same weasley bureacrats who allow illegals to suck us dry, will outright ~lie and ~cheat, in order to ~deny honestly needy AMERICANS any justified aid. They're allowing sick and unemployed American citizens to die slowly from starvation and the cold, while gladly supporting foreign illegals. This all must be due to the Corporate Economy; because they want more ~consumers (ie young families with lots of children) to come in here.
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11/19/2012 03:44 PM
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Re: Homeland Security promotes welfare to new immigrants in government ‘welcome’ materials
According to popular lore, the first welfare recipients in North America were Pilgrims.
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According to popular lore, the first welfare recipients in North America were Pilgrims.
 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm

 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm


Those Pilgrims WORKED hard to build this country; and their descendants FOUGHT and risked their lives for our freedom and national security. There was nothing at all lazy or dishonest about those Pilgrims. And they didn't live lavish lifestyles. They spent 6-12 weeks at sea, just getting here. In the beginning, the Pilgrims were the ones who got ~along with the Indians (remember, the First Thanksgiving?). Relations with the Native tribes only deteriorated when certain European Governments and Corporations (ie, the Dutch, English, Spanish and French) interfered, for the purpose of CAPITALIZING off of them. The Pilgrims were good and wise people.
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Re: Homeland Security promotes welfare to new immigrants in government ‘welcome’ materials
According to popular lore, the first welfare recipients in North America were Pilgrims.
 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm

 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm


Those Pilgrims WORKED hard to build this country; and their descendants FOUGHT and risked their lives for our freedom and national security. There was nothing at all lazy or dishonest about those Pilgrims. And they didn't live lavish lifestyles. They spent 6-12 weeks at sea, just getting here. In the beginning, the Pilgrims were the ones who got ~along with the Indians (remember, the First Thanksgiving?). Relations with the Native tribes only deteriorated when certain European Governments and Corporations (ie, the Dutch, English, Spanish and French) interfered, for the purpose of CAPITALIZING off of them. The Pilgrims were good and wise people.
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11/19/2012 04:23 PM
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According to popular lore, the first welfare recipients in North America were Pilgrims.
 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm

 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm


Those Pilgrims WORKED hard to build this country; and their descendants FOUGHT and risked their lives for our freedom and national security. There was nothing at all lazy or dishonest about those Pilgrims. And they didn't live lavish lifestyles. They spent 6-12 weeks at sea, just getting here. In the beginning, the Pilgrims were the ones who got ~along with the Indians (remember, the First Thanksgiving?). Relations with the Native tribes only deteriorated when certain European Governments and Corporations (ie, the Dutch, English, Spanish and French) interfered, for the purpose of CAPITALIZING off of them. The Pilgrims were good and wise people.
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And then America was bought from them for shiny cell phones and trinkets.
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a few states NEED to secede... and do it NOW!
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Idiot you need their help...can't swim back now were close

They are hoping to make more money back in taxes...over the next 200 years with that family...is that right?
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11/19/2012 04:32 PM
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i can totally "see" obama's masters scheming this whole pinko commie program. this should cause outrage.
face it, the usa, as we once knew it, is gone...
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11/19/2012 04:32 PM
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Death to the Neo-Bolsheviks that have taken over our Nation!
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11/19/2012 04:44 PM
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How does any entitlement program add to our economy? The taxpayers foot the bill for the burdens to society, those very same burdens purchase goods and services so taxpayer money gets redistributed to corporations.

It's called redistribution of wealth.

That's why those scumbags in congress claim that immigrants "add to the economy".
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According to popular lore, the first welfare recipients in North America were Pilgrims.
 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm

 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm


Those Pilgrims WORKED hard to build this country; and their descendants FOUGHT and risked their lives for our freedom and national security. There was nothing at all lazy or dishonest about those Pilgrims. And they didn't live lavish lifestyles. They spent 6-12 weeks at sea, just getting here. In the beginning, the Pilgrims were the ones who got ~along with the Indians (remember, the First Thanksgiving?). Relations with the Native tribes only deteriorated when certain European Governments and Corporations (ie, the Dutch, English, Spanish and French) interfered, for the purpose of CAPITALIZING off of them. The Pilgrims were good and wise people.
 Quoting: shenandoah


And then America was bought from them for shiny cell phones and trinkets.
 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm


The Dutch West Indies Trading Company (ie Corporation) bought Manhattan Island from a tribe, for a few trinkets and cloth. Spanish Conquistadors paid nothing for what they claimed -- they just exterminated the Natives for it, whenever necessary (when they couldn't get their cooperation and free slave labor).

My English 7th g-grandfather and his Dutch brother-in-law (both Puritans) bought a piece of Long Island from a couple of Chiefs for I'm sure a fair price. Then later (after my ancestors had already sold their LI homes and moved to New Jersey), England literally stole all of "New Netherlands" by strong-armed robbery, changing the name to New York and forcing the original settlers to pay more money for what they already owned.

The Pilgrims had nothing to do with what the Governments and Corporations were doing (including selling arms to Natives, in trade for animal pelts). The Pilgrims were peacefully anti-Government, anti-Corporations, and most were anti-slavery (Britain pushed slavery in the Southern Colonies and the Caribbean, where cash crops could be grown by British Loyalists, funding Britain's Empire). They did sell Indians liquor though, because they felt it would have been cruel and inhumane to deny them what they considered to be medicine.

The Pilgrims taught their religious beliefs to Indians, too; but not by force. And they went out of their way to provide them with Bible texts in Native languages.

So, the Pilgrims tried to be a force for good in this land, unlike some others. They always tried very hard to be just and fair. They even threw out ~hundreds of unjust, oppressive English laws, refusing to enforce them in the Colonies. That was all before the Revolution.
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That's all fine and good to know. Had a few family progenitors on the Mayflower myself. Also had a few that got trinkets.

I'm not sure there was full contractual disclosure of the smallpox that was thrown into the deal. But then again, they did call them Sioux.
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11/19/2012 05:17 PM
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Well, at least the Obama-administration is not handing them a copy of the Koran, an M60 machine gun and 2000 rounds of ammo. Yet...!
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11/19/2012 05:18 PM
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We have similar bolloxology here in Ireland, lead by the 'dogooders' who provide free legal council to all those landing on our shores, primarily from Africa, and show them all the loopholes in the system to get every benefit available.

I don't begrudge folk looking for a better life, sure how many Paddies went and did the same, but I'd like to think that they went and worked for it, if they didn't then fuck them.

We have a major issue here where some Africans (read Nigerians, not all Africans) are basically scamming the system, American equivalent would be 1 person having 7 social security numbers, and claiming benefits on all of them.

I work and pay my taxes, I don't mind that my tax helps sick people get treatment or help those who've lost their jobs and are trying to get back to work, but I'll not have my taxes pay for junkies or scammers!

If this country explode after the upcoming budget then whoever named us the fighting Irish must be spinning in their grave (think it was Gen. Robert E Lee).
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11/19/2012 05:19 PM
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There's an ad in my local paper, from a law firm, stating "if you can't work because you suffer from "emotional problems", you may be entitled to disability benefits".

There are 10,001 ways to cheat the system and th honest people are the ones who pay for it.
 Quoting: DL 25582762


It is time for everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, to "cheat" the system.

Alinsky this bitch right into the dust.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28072317


What is the trick to getting food stamps? Think I can claim hispanic?
Who is John Galt?
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11/19/2012 05:19 PM
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so.....we've become the "welfare bait motel" for immies


yanno - they can all go the fuck back to fuckatania!!!!
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Might as well hand out WalMart bags while we're at it.
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If this country doesn't explode after the upcoming budget then whoever named us the fighting Irish must be spinning in their grave (think it was Gen. Robert E Lee).
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Apologies, have fixed the post now.
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so.....we've become the "welfare bait motel" for immies


yanno - they can all go the fuck back to fuckatania!!!!
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Might as well hand out WalMart bags while we're at it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1368022


this is too surreal. one non stop ass rape .
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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so.....we've become the "welfare bait motel" for immies


yanno - they can all go the fuck back to fuckatania!!!!
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Might as well hand out WalMart bags while we're at it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1368022


this is too surreal. one non stop ass rape .
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


KY Jelly por favor.

Did I say that right?
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11/19/2012 05:53 PM
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How sickening and what a waste of money.
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Re: Homeland Security promotes welfare to new immigrants in government ‘welcome’ materials
I guess I'm the oddball, I think it is great to welcome them and give them legal status ....just as I also think that the President visiting Cambodia, Thailand and Burma is great too, first US President to do that, what took us so long ?

And furthermore ....:




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11/19/2012 06:04 PM
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Re: Homeland Security promotes welfare to new immigrants in government ‘welcome’ materials
What really gets me is that when our nation gives Social Security to immigrants, WHO NEVER PAID INTO THE SYSTEM, they get more then my parents get. Why should my parents, who spent their lives running a small family farm, get less then a free loader from another country!!!!

gaah
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


no it doesn't. Only those who paid into the system
can collect Social Security. SSI is Supplemental
Security Income, not Social Security; they are
totally different.
Anonymous Coward
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11/19/2012 06:15 PM
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So, now you freaks are going after LEGAL immigrants too?

You should first check if you don't have any Irish, Italian or German immigrant in your family tree!

If you have, go back to the homeland of your ancestor, Ireland, Italy or Germany!
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Re: Homeland Security promotes welfare to new immigrants in government ‘welcome’ materials
So, now you freaks are going after LEGAL immigrants too?

You should first check if you don't have any Irish, Italian or German immigrant in your family tree!

If you have, go back to the homeland of your ancestor, Ireland, Italy or Germany!


If you are profiting from a system you did not pay into, you are a parasite. Legal, illegal, Native or Naturalized, you are still a parasite.





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