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Here is a great video on the how and why of biblical canon, all these books where not in the bible because they are gnostic nonsense. Gnosticsm was the second earliest heresy faced by the early christian church.
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And the rest of the bible is not nonsense? The fallacy of faith and belief can't stand up to elementary scrutiny. The primary principles the Bible clings to, cannot in fact, be true.
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21 Reasons Why the Apocrypha is Not Inspired

1. The Roman Catholic Church did not officially canonize the Apocrypha until the Council of Trent (1546 AD). This was in part because the Apocrypha contained material which supported certain Catholic doctrines, such as purgatory, praying for the dead, and the treasury of merit.

2. Not one of them is in the Hebrew language, which was alone used by the inspired historians and poets of the Old Testament.

3. Not one of the writers lays any claim to inspiration.

4. These books were never acknowledged as sacred Scriptures by the Jewish Church, and therefore were never sanctioned by our Lord.

5. They were not allowed a place among the sacred books, during the first four centuries of the Christian Church.

6. They contain fabulous statements, and statements which contradict not only the canonical Scriptures, but themselves; as when, in the two Books of Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.

7. The Apocrypha inculcates doctrines at variance with the Bible, such as prayers for the dead and sinless perfection.

It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins.(2 Maccabees 12:39-46)

8. The apocrypha contains offensive materials unbecoming of God’s authorship.

Ecclesiasticus 25:19 Any iniquity is insignificant compared to a wife's iniquity.

Ecclesiasticus 25:24 From a woman sin had its beginning. Because of her we all die.

Ecclesiasticus 22:3 It is a disgrace to be the father of an undisciplined, and the birth of a daughter is a loss.

9. It teaches immoral practices, such as lying, suicide, assassination and magical incantation.

10. The apocryphal books themselves make reference to what we call the Silent 400 years, where there was no prophets of God to write inspired materials.

And they laid up the stones in the mountain of the temple in a convenient place, till there should come a prophet, and give answer concerning them.(1 Maccabees 4:46)

And there was a great tribulation in Israel, such as was not since the day, that there was no prophet seen in Israel.(1 Maccabees 9:27)

And that the Jews, and their priests, had consented that he should be their prince, and high priest for ever, till there should arise a faithful prophet.(1 Maccabees 14:41)

11. Josephus rejected the apocryphal books as inspired and this reflected Jewish thought at the time of Jesus

12. The Manual of Discipline in the Dead Sea Scrolls rejected the apocrypha as inspired.

13. The Council of Jamnia held the same view rejected the apocrypha as inspired.

14. Although it was occasionally quoted in early church writings, it was nowhere accepted in a canon. Melito (AD 170) and Origen rejected the Apocrypha,(Eccl. Hist. VI. 25, Eusebius) as does the Muratorian Canon.

15. Jerome vigorously resisted including the Apocrypha in his Latin Vulgate Version (400 AD), but was overruled. As a result, the standard Roman Catholic Bible throughout the medieval period contained it. Thus, it gradually came to be revered by the average clergyman. Still, many medieval Catholic scholars realized that it was not inspired.

16. The terms "protocanonical" and "deuterocanonical" are used by Catholics to signify respectively those books of Scripture that were received by the entire Church from the beginning as inspired, and those whose inspiration came to be recognized later, after the matter had been disputed by certain Fathers and local churches.

17. Pope Damasus (366-384) authorized Jerome to translate the Latin Vulgate. The Council of Carthage declared this translation as "the infallible and authentic Bible." Jerome was the first to describe the extra 7 Old Testament books as the "Apocrypha" (doubtful authenticity). Needless to say, Jerome’s Latin Vulgate did not include the Apocrypha.

18. Cyril (born about A.D. 315)– "Read the divine Scriptures – namely, the 22 books of the Old Testament which the 72 interpreters translated" (the Septuagint)

19. The apocrypha wasn’t included at first in the Septuagint, but was appended by the Alexandrians, and was not listed in any of the catalogues of the inspired books till the 4th century

20. Hilary (bishop of Poictiers, 350 A.D.) rejected the apocrypha (Prologue to the Psalms, Sec. 15)

21. Epiphanius (the great opposer of heresy, 360 A.D.) rejected them all. Referring to Wisdom of Solomon & book of Jesus Sirach, he said "These indeed are useful books & profitable, but they are not placed in the number of the canonical."
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"True man" vs "In-organic man/modern man"

Its the takeover!!
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21 Reasons Why the Apocrypha is Not Inspired

6. They contain fabulous statements, and statements which contradict not only the canonical Scriptures, but themselves; as when, in the two Books of Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.

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Interesting list here. I learned something for sure! However, regarding the above item #6: Kinda like the three versions of Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus in the canonical Bible. Just sayin'.
"For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light."
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21 Reasons Why the Apocrypha is Not Inspired

1. The Roman Catholic Church did not officially canonize the Apocrypha until the Council of Trent (1546 AD). This was in part because the Apocrypha contained material which supported certain Catholic doctrines, such as purgatory, praying for the dead, and the treasury of merit.

2. Not one of them is in the Hebrew language, which was alone used by the inspired historians and poets of the Old Testament.

3. Not one of the writers lays any claim to inspiration.

4. These books were never acknowledged as sacred Scriptures by the Jewish Church, and therefore were never sanctioned by our Lord.

5. They were not allowed a place among the sacred books, during the first four centuries of the Christian Church.

6. They contain fabulous statements, and statements which contradict not only the canonical Scriptures, but themselves; as when, in the two Books of Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.

7. The Apocrypha inculcates doctrines at variance with the Bible, such as prayers for the dead and sinless perfection.

It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins.(2 Maccabees 12:39-46)

8. The apocrypha contains offensive materials unbecoming of God’s authorship.

Ecclesiasticus 25:19 Any iniquity is insignificant compared to a wife's iniquity.

Ecclesiasticus 25:24 From a woman sin had its beginning. Because of her we all die.

Ecclesiasticus 22:3 It is a disgrace to be the father of an undisciplined, and the birth of a daughter is a loss.

9. It teaches immoral practices, such as lying, suicide, assassination and magical incantation.

10. The apocryphal books themselves make reference to what we call the Silent 400 years, where there was no prophets of God to write inspired materials.

And they laid up the stones in the mountain of the temple in a convenient place, till there should come a prophet, and give answer concerning them.(1 Macc priest abees 4:46)

And there was a great tribulation in Israel, such as was not since the day, that there was no prophet seen in Israel.(1 Maccabees 9:27)

And that the Jews, and their priests, had consented that he should be their prince, and high for ever, till there should arise a faithful prophet.(1 Maccabees 14:41)

11. Josephus rejected the apocryphal books as inspired and this reflected Jewish thought at the time of Jesus

12. The Manual of Discipline in the Dead Sea Scrolls rejected the apocrypha as inspired.

13. The Council of Jamnia held the same view rejected the apocrypha as inspired.

14. Although it was occasionally quoted in early church writings, it was nowhere accepted in a canon. Melito (AD 170) and Origen rejected the Apocrypha,(Eccl. Hist. VI. 25, Eusebius) as does the Muratorian Canon.

15. Jerome vigorously resisted including the Apocrypha in his Latin Vulgate Version (400 AD), but was overruled. As a result, the standard Roman Catholic Bible throughout the medieval period contained it. Thus, it gradually came to be revered by the average clergyman. Still, many medieval Catholic scholars realized that it was not inspired.

16. The terms "protocanonical" and "deuterocanonical" are used by Catholics to signify respectively those books of Scripture that were received by the entire Church from the beginning as inspired, and those whose inspiration came to be recognized later, after the matter had been disputed by certain Fathers and local churches.

17. Pope Damasus (366-384) authorized Jerome to translate the Latin Vulgate. The Council of Carthage declared this translation as "the infallible and authentic Bible." Jerome was the first to describe the extra 7 Old Testament books as the "Apocrypha" (doubtful authenticity). Needless to say, Jerome’s Latin Vulgate did not include the Apocrypha.

18. Cyril (born about A.D. 315)– "Read the divine Scriptures – namely, the 22 books of the Old Testament which the 72 interpreters translated" (the Septuagint)

19. The apocrypha wasn’t included at first in the Septuagint, but was appended by the Alexandrians, and was not listed in any of the catalogues of the inspired books till the 4th century

20. Hilary (bishop of Poictiers, 350 A.D.) rejected the apocrypha (Prologue to the Psalms, Sec. 15)

21. Epiphanius (the great opposer of heresy, 360 A.D.) rejected them all. Referring to Wisdom of Solomon & book of Jesus Sirach, he said "These indeed are useful books & profitable, but they are not placed in the number of the canonical."
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And what about the rest of the books?
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Did you stop to think that maybe those books were rejected because they're not true?

There must have been satanic pagans and gnostics chomping at the bit to get their own information stuffed in there.
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Heeeeeeere come the 'satanists'........!
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are you denying that satan exists?

just curious...

:)
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BTW--I used to have a similar take... then I just kept researching and broke through to another level (for me) of understanding...

have you seen Roger Morneau's testimony:

[link to youtu.be]

or Mark Cleminson, Earthquake Kelly, Carolyn Hamlett... there is a long list of testimonies from people who point back to a more literal interpretation and general deception going on...

for sure the bible is encoded... but it seems like realizing this is not much different from cutting an apple in half and realizing that a five-pointed star is significant to the reality we are in as a principle sacred geometric shape indicating intelligent design and used by the occult to access demonic realms...
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(I have read many of the forbidden texts like book of enoch, kolbrin bible, pistis sophia, etc... they fascinate me and contain some interesting information... but they could also be disinfo too...

it was the "boots on the ground" testimonies of former satanists, voodoo priests, illuminati, etc that changed my mind... this is and the secular information available now pointing to the reality of the supernatural--guys like Graham Hancock's Supernatural and Chris Everard's work...

I put my list here for other researchers:

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Use caution when reading any of these. Just like today there were many false prophets back then.
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Christianity

Did Christians Destroy Classical Culture and Create the Dark Ages?

Abstract

Once the Empire was administered by Christians, public libraries had their Pagan books progressively replaced by Christian books. Christians closed Pagan temples and academies, destroying or scattering their libraries. Even as early as 235 AD Christians, like Sextus Julius Africanus, were in powerful and influential positions in Rome. By 391 AD, an edict of Theodosius prohibited visiting Pagan temples and even looking at their ruins. In Alexandria, Pagans revolted, led by the philosopher Olympius. They locked themselves inside the temple of the god Serapis—the Serapeion. Christians violently sieged and captured the building, demolished it, burnt its famous library and profaned its images. Christians try to deny that they ravaged the Pagan learning accumulated over the whole of previous history. Since this vandalism started the Dark Ages, it is difficult to prove…

www.askwhy.co.uk/christianity/0780Bookburning.php
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A TIME WHEN THE BIBLE
WAS BANNED AND BURNED -
By The Apostate Christian Church

Many people are unaware of the fact that there
was a long period of time, when the Church of
Christendom - forbid the reading of the Bible.

Not only did she forbid the reading of the Bible,
but she also forbid having posession of a Bible
in one's own home.

babylon-the-great.xanga.com/675608011/item/
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This chapter is on page# 19. A fascinating description about our own physiology:

JOURNEY OF JOSEPH AND MARY
The marvellous story of the journey of Joseph and Mary to Jerusalem to pay taxes PHYSIOLOGICALLY explained.

ON EITHER side of the Thalamus, in the head,
is a gland, known in physiology as the Pineal, on the
posterior, and the Pituitary on the anterior side of
the Thalamus.

The Pineal is cone shaped, and secretes a yellow or
golden fluid. The Pituitary Body, opposite it, is ellipsoid
in shape, and contains a whitish secretion, like milk.

The fluids that are found in both these bodies come
from the same source, namely, the Claustrum, which
means "barrier" or "cloister," and is referred to as
cloister for the very good reason that a precious and holy
thing is secreted or secluded there. Saint Claus, or Santa
Claus, is another term for this precious fluid, which is
indeed a holy gift in the body of each one of us.

The precious fluid which flows down from the Claus-
trum separates, part going into the Pineal gland and part
to the Pituitary body, and these, being special laboratories
of the head, differentiate the fluid from the Claustrum,
and it takes on the colors above mentioned, and in the
Pineal Gland becomes yellow and has electric properties.
The Pituitary Body, having the milk-like fluid, has mag-
netic properties.

These two glands are the male and female, the
Joseph and Mary of the physical body, and are the par-
ents of the spiritual son born in the solar plexus of each
human being, commencing about the age of twelve.

This yellow and white material, which is the milk
and honey referred to in the Bible, the children of Israel
having been given the promise of a return to this land
flowing with milk and honey, at last reaches the solar
plexus via semi-lunar ganglia (see chart), the Bethle-
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Dont worry im sure the pope is keeping them all safe in the pope2Vatican Library.
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Excerpt from the book:
God-Man: The Word Made Flesh by George W. Carey and Inez Eudora Perry (Mar 1, 1920)
[link to www.amazon.com]


EDIT: Found the full text!!
Full text:
[link to archive.org]


Read on-line on Google books:
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First Council of Nicaea in AD 325
Second Council of Nicaea in AD 787
[link to en.wikipedia.org]





BOOKS REJECTED BY THE COUNCIL OF NICEA, AND OTHER ANCIENT BOOKS




Books of the Koran- Persia:
Hebrew :
Esther
Solomon
Egyptian book of the dead
St.Thomas (the doubter)
Nicodemus
Ptah Hotep,
and the oldest: The Kaballah


Others;
OLD TESTAMENT APOCRYPHA

The books of Adam and Eve
The lives of Adam and Eve
The Apocalypse of Moses
The Slavonic book of Eve
The writings attributed to Enoch
The great prophetic book of Enoch
The lost book of Noah
The apocalypse of Baruch
His vision of heaven
The story of Ahikar
The new found ancient book

THE NEW TESTAMENT APOCRYPHA

The gospels of Christ's childhood
The Protevangelium, or Original gospel of James
Gospel of Thomas the doubter
An Arabic gospel of the Infancy
The gospels of Nicodemus
The Greek gospel of Nicodemus
A latter Gospel
The harrowing of Hell
The acts fo Pilate
The letters of Pilate



Again , the researchers of such theological scholars as James Legge, LLD, first Professor of Chinese, at Oxford University:Prof> Wm Jennings, PHD,
Hon Clement Allen of the Royal Asiatic Society, beside several hundred who might be named, embracing the leaders of thought along lines of "original sources" , all agree that hundreds, if not thousands, of ancient manuscripts, tablets, and carvings indubitably prove that all races of all people that have ever inhabited the earth have striven, as best as they could, to leave records of the chemistry and physiology of their own bodies.
Science , Egyptology, Indo-Iranian, Chinese, Japanese , Persian, or Sanskrit, all, all, forever strove to solve the riddle of the human body.
>>
[link to books.google.co.in]
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OP, the Council of Nicea, 325, has not taken in discussion what you just posted, not a word. Athanasius the Great wrote a letter, that later was accepted as the "canon of Scripture". At previous councils and on early christian writers you won't get references from gnostic books, from apocryphal writings, so the Church has not approved them before and post Nicea. The most authoritative book on issue is: Hefele, Konziliengeschichte, translated in french and in english.
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thank you for sharing your research op.

looks like i have some reading to do.
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Did you stop to think that maybe those books were rejected because they're not true?

There must have been satanic pagans and gnostics chomping at the bit to get their own information stuffed in there.
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I'm sure that some of the books were not correct. However some people, like myself, do not like other folks (especially people in power) deciding what we should read. Maybe you are okay with being treated like a child. Jesus himself studied the book of Enoch and referenced it in the Bible. Why was it left out by the council?
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Interesting. Would you be so kind to provide the place in the bible where Jesus references Enoch? It would save me tons of time trying to find it myself.

thanks in advance.
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I quite like the Apocrypha; it's a shame it got excluded. However, I must say that the best book in it is 2nd Esdras.
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hey bnhie
i'vebbeen watching your threads- but not contributing- sorry!

really glad you found 'god-man'

it's a gem

i think when you read about ida and pingula - the left and right sympathetic trunks - it will blow your mind

i'm really impressed at your forbearance in getting this all down on a thread - i couldn't be arsed tbh
i've mentioned it and recommended it to people here and there over the years but by actually quoting the text , you make it much more #real# :-) and it's very accessible

especially to awakening christians who can't intellectually accept the mass christian dogma but fundamentally know there are gems in that there book that are worth studying
and learning from

i hope it encourages all others to read this book - with an anatomy text book ( i'm using GRANTS - i'd recommend it -good pictures!)

and learn of themselves

there is also a very interesting graphic on an alchemical chart which i've not found elsewhere -which has some lovely chemical cross over with astrology-which is hard to find ( reliably)

if you can get your own copy to scribble on , i would

thank you for bringing itin such detail here x
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Interesting. Would you be so kind to provide the place in the bible where Jesus references Enoch? It would save me tons of time trying to find it myself.

thanks in advance.
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thanks for asking.whoever referenced enoch in the bible was filled with holy ghost of Jesus so technically Jesus said it. same goes for everything else jesus didnt say.

HTH
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hey bnhie
i'vebbeen watching your threads- but not contributing- sorry!

really glad you found 'god-man'

it's a gem

i think when you read about ida and pingula - the left and right sympathetic trunks - it will blow your mind

i'm really impressed at your forbearance in getting this all down on a thread - i couldn't be arsed tbh
i've mentioned it and recommended it to people here and there over the years but by actually quoting the text , you make it much more #real# :-) and it's very accessible

especially to awakening christians who can't intellectually accept the mass christian dogma but fundamentally know there are gems in that there book that are worth studying
and learning from

i hope it encourages all others to read this book - with an anatomy text book ( i'm using GRANTS - i'd recommend it -good pictures!)

and learn of themselves

there is also a very interesting graphic on an alchemical chart which i've not found elsewhere -which has some lovely chemical cross over with astrology-which is hard to find ( reliably)

if you can get your own copy to scribble on , i would

thank you for bringing itin such detail here x
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Yes I found that chart in the preview of the book on amazon.
Will try to get a hi-res version of it and post it here.
Thank you for your comments.
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Of course, when you keep the people ignorant, they will cling to parables about the sun and stay complacent.

The people sitting at the council of Nicea immediately began genociding the pagans of europe, after the bearded hustlers invaded Rome. So that should bring their credibility to around zero.
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You got that right! In fact, the pagans you speak of, the Germanics, and moreso, the Celts preceded the Jews, muslims and christians, alike. The abrahamic religions are among the newest religions and cultures in the world. The pagans honoured nature. Not that all the pagans were good, for there's always good and evil, but they were not satanists or eveil only because they were pagan. Religion and spirituality, btw, have nothing in common, and are actually polar opposites!
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Of course, when you keep the people ignorant, they will cling to parables about the sun and stay complacent.

The people sitting at the council of Nicea immediately began genociding the pagans of europe, after the bearded hustlers invaded Rome. So that should bring their credibility to around zero.
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You got that right! In fact, the pagans you speak of, the Germanics, and moreso, the Celts preceded the Jews, muslims and christians, alike. The abrahamic religions are among the newest religions and cultures in the world. The pagans honoured nature. Not that all the pagans were good, for there's always good and evil, but they were not satanists or eveil only because they were pagan. Religion and spirituality, btw, have nothing in common, and are actually polar opposites!
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Totally agree with you on the underlined phrase.
Truer words never were spoken.
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You guys will really appreciates Bill Donahue's work if you don't already know him. Been studying and teaching Biblical physiology for years, really breaks things down:

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Good examples:



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By definition - the Christian church of today must be 'Agnostic' as they denounce anything with even a hint of Gnosticism attached to it!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Of course, when you keep the people ignorant, they will cling to parables about the sun and stay complacent.

The people sitting at the council of Nicea immediately began genociding the pagans of europe, after the bearded hustlers invaded Rome. So that should bring their credibility to around zero.
 Quoting: jadksn 27984427


You got that right! In fact, the pagans you speak of, the Germanics, and moreso, the Celts preceded the Jews, muslims and christians, alike. The abrahamic religions are among the newest religions and cultures in the world. The pagans honoured nature. Not that all the pagans were good, for there's always good and evil, but they were not satanists or eveil only because they were pagan. Religion and spirituality, btw, have nothing in common, and are actually polar opposites!
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Totally agree with you on the underlined phrase.
Truer words never were spoken.
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Religion without spirituality is dead - which of course explains heaps!!! Spirituality on the other hand, has no need of religion!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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For your determination and diligence you should be commended. For that I will tell you of the way of the Ojibwe that sets apart our teachings from those of other Native/Aboriginal American People.

The word "Ojibwe" means "We write on things," and refers to birchbark scrolls that were used in ceremonies performed in the midewiwin lodge. These scrolls were all different, according to the purpose of the one recieving it, and each told of the journey that that person had made into the spiritual realm, for it was given to us to understand how to bridge that veil between what is and what is.

Each Ojibwe person was given the authority to perform the function of their individual Purpose here on earth through direct contact with the spirit world. It was not necessary for us to be given a written "guide" such as the Bible because we had direct contact.

Over the years much has changed and not many follow that path anymore since the distractions of this day-and-age of the world are so compelling, but some do. Some remember and hold as true to our Way as is possible. It is the hardest life one cn choose, but some still do choose it.
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Crazy!

I am part Ojibwe, but I do not know much about their practices.

That said, when I was little and saw my first birch tree I said "paper". I insisted from about two to three that it was not bark, but paper.

I was obsessed with writing notes on it, even though I had yet to learn to write.
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11/20/2012 10:42 AM
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The big one:

The SEED, or JESUS.


"Ahhh....now now abhie, why did you have to tell them? They wont believe you anyway...sigh"
jeebuzz
 Quoting: abhie


I just love this...really I do.

I understand that why it is that after
I've been in deepest meditation and euphoria
I sometimes feel like....
(this is going to sound really strange)
I feel like a little loaf of freshly
baked bread....or maybe a perfect, newly
baked sesseme seed bun (sacred in ZEN.)
Kindof puts a new "spin" on communion
wafers (bread = Body of Christ in the
Orthodox Christian communion ceremony)

I've looked briefly at the link for the
book you've posted here, OP. I am looking
forward to reading all of it today--after
my Art Show today. It will be a treat!
I'll buy a double Latte Brava....so that
the emotional high of this book will also
register in my body!

There's a note at the end of the book that
is a wonderful suggestion to anyone wondering....
Gee...."What shall I do?"

Here is a copy for you'all!
"The inhabitants of the earth may look forward
with joyful assurance that the time is approaching when
heaven shall be manifest on earth in the glorious harmo-
nies that will everywhere greet the eye and cheer the
heart. As certain as the revolutions of time move for-
ward, SO SURELY WILL THE DIVINE GLORY
BE VISIBLY DISPLAYED AND ALL NATIONS
SHALL BEHOLD AND ENJOY THE BLESSED-
NESS OF CELESTIAL ILLUMINATION.

Such being the future and happy result that awaits
the earth and its inhabitants, how important, fellow mortal, is your duty to hasten on the grand consummation. Arise from your inactivity and dullness and move
forward in obedience to the laws of your being.

Let no excuse prevent the utmost development of
your whole nature.
Exercise all the powers of
your mind and body with reference to the harmonial unfolding of yourself. Do what you can to assist others
in the great work of spiritual and physical
development. Learn from the volume of inspiration
in the universe without, and let your spirit look within for still higher manifestations and more
refined enjoyments.

Lovely!
Cheers!
SK


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11/20/2012 07:53 PM

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The big one:

The SEED, or JESUS.


"Ahhh....now now abhie, why did you have to tell them? They wont believe you anyway...sigh"
jeebuzz
 Quoting: abhie


I just love this...really I do.

I understand that why it is that after
I've been in deepest meditation and euphoria
I sometimes feel like....
(this is going to sound really strange)
I feel like a little loaf of freshly
baked bread....or maybe a perfect, newly
baked sesseme seed bun (sacred in ZEN.)
Kindof puts a new "spin" on communion
wafers (bread = Body of Christ in the
Orthodox Christian communion ceremony)

I've looked briefly at the link for the
book you've posted here, OP. I am looking
forward to reading all of it today--after
my Art Show today. It will be a treat!
I'll buy a double Latte Brava....so that
the emotional high of this book will also
register in my body!

There's a note at the end of the book that
is a wonderful suggestion to anyone wondering....
Gee...."What shall I do?"

Here is a copy for you'all!
"The inhabitants of the earth may look forward
with joyful assurance that the time is approaching when
heaven shall be manifest on earth in the glorious harmo-
nies that will everywhere greet the eye and cheer the
heart. As certain as the revolutions of time move for-
ward, SO SURELY WILL THE DIVINE GLORY
BE VISIBLY DISPLAYED AND ALL NATIONS
SHALL BEHOLD AND ENJOY THE BLESSED-
NESS OF CELESTIAL ILLUMINATION.

Such being the future and happy result that awaits
the earth and its inhabitants, how important, fellow mortal, is your duty to hasten on the grand consummation. Arise from your inactivity and dullness and move
forward in obedience to the laws of your being.

Let no excuse prevent the utmost development of
your whole nature.
Exercise all the powers of
your mind and body with reference to the harmonial unfolding of yourself. Do what you can to assist others
in the great work of spiritual and physical
development. Learn from the volume of inspiration
in the universe without, and let your spirit look within for still higher manifestations and more
refined enjoyments.

Lovely!
Cheers!
SK


YoungMonaLisaISA
 Quoting: SilentlyKnowing


Lovely words and a great post SK!
I didn't see the qoute. I'm still halfway thru the book.
The info is amazing.
cheers

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