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Survey, Do you think children under the age of 18 should be tried as adults?

 
Carshy McCarsh

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I am taking classes in Criminal Justice and I need to make a survey asking if children under the age of 18 should be tried as adults, so....... should they or shouldn't they?
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If they are old enough to do the crime, they are old enough to do the time.
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I know that when one of my boys was around 5 or so, he stole a little stuffed animal from the store, I didn't see the toy until we got home. So, almost immediately we went back to the store, I marched him in and up to the customer service counter and made him tell them what he did. They talked to him and scared the crap out of him with going to jail. Needless to say, they did not punish him, but scared him. So as far as I know, he's never done anything like that again.
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This is an example of "good" parenting, one which was prevalent when WE were growing up in the 50's, 60's, and even 70's. I can remember MY Mother telling all of the neighbor moms (in front of me, of course) that if they observed me being naughty they could discipline me, and then she wanted them to call her and I would be FURTHER disciplined when I got home. The same with all of my teachers. But now, the "BIG" punishment seems to be "time-out", which teaches absolutely NOTHING other than a kid can get away with basically ANYTHING and all it will cost is a few minutes-worth of sitting in a chair. BFD. No wonder we have so many little reprobates running around! About the time most kids start Kindergarten, modern parents seem to abandon them to the schools to teach them ethics, morals, and responsibility. Unfortunately, the teachers and other adults in the school system aren't allowed to discipline the kids either, so they basically pass them on so that they will become someone ELSE'S problem.
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"Time outs" DO NOT WORK! The child just turns around, or "I need to pee, I'm thristy, etc..." and eventually you give up on repeating yourself "turn around, get back in the corner,etc.." its frustrating. A good spank on the backside as long as you don't do it really pissed off; well it helps... I say don't do it pissed off because you may cause your child to think that they to can "hit" someone when they are mad.
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Re: Survey, Do you think children under the age of 18 should be tried as adults?
no

and I also think its absurd to selectively pick which child you are going to try as an adult.

the rule and law should be in stone, regardless.

otherwise what is the point of a law if it can be manipulated.
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I am taking classes in Criminal Justice and I need to make a survey asking if children under the age of 18 should be tried as adults, so....... should they or shouldn't they?
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If they are old enough to do the crime, they are old enough to do the time.
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By old enough what do you mean? I feel that age 15 is old enough to know better. 8 they should know better but they should get leeway unless they murder or rape willingly.
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Yes, this new generation is a bunch of immoral brainwashed shitstains raised on gore, shooter games, and GTA.
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Yes, but the parents are the ones to make them this way, no? The child is not the ones going out and buying the game or the gory movies for themselves, the parents are. Why put the blame on the child for this?
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Agreed, if this is the case. However, some of these "games", or free previews of these games, are available on the Internet.

I remember a few years ago, I was working in an alternative ed. program and our kids were 14 - 17. In addition to the schoolwork, we also incorporated teaching manners, ethics, self-control, non-violence, and consequences, which had been slim to none in their lives up to that point.

During MANY of our Staff meetings we were going nuts about a game on the Internet called "Grand Theft Auto". We had computers which were SUPPOSED to be for schoolwork, but the kids could "free-use" them during lunchtime. There were also some rules for use, (no violence, nudity, or profanity etc.) which a few kids ignored/disobeyed by viewing, downloading, and passing the game out to the other students. There were so many kids downloading this game, and then playing it when they were SUPPOSED to be doing schoolwork, that we finally had to cancel the "free-use". Of course, when we made the announcement we explained why, and hopefully the kids knew just who had been doing that and exacted their displeasure upon them at a later time!

So, another "life-lesson" for the kids, that just a few can screw it up for the whole rest of the group!
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Re: Survey, Do you think children under the age of 18 should be tried as adults?
I think the penalty for the crime committed should remain the same.

I do not agree with the death penalty or any other form of bodily maiming or damaging as a penalty.

If murder is a 20-30 or life sentence then juveniles would serve time in juvenile facility.
They should serve this restricted to those sections in facilities for juvenile violent offenders.

Then at the age of no longer a minor they should be transferred to adult incarceration. And one for violent offenders and finish out their sentence.

Penalty based on crime.
Adults will exploit their own children to commit crimes they as an adult would receive great penalty for.

Yet this method of criminal actions even by exploration of minors can only be stopped by shutting the door opened for the same crime to be carried out ..minus and by-passing the penalty.
That only make way for the crime to be continued in its way that is open unto it.

Humans will willfully select to do a crime knowing full well that form of crime received the death sentence.
Yet they would rather get the satisfaction of acting out evils even with the ends being their own execution.
Then some even see it as I can do it so long as they do not catch me doing it and still if they do and I can not beat the verdict....so what it is worth it to me to massacre and rape and plunder. Like a serial killer or serial rapist.
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I am taking classes in Criminal Justice and I need to make a survey asking if children under the age of 18 should be tried as adults, so....... should they or shouldn't they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24966684


If they are old enough to do the crime, they are old enough to do the time.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


By old enough what do you mean? I feel that age 15 is old enough to know better. 8 they should know better but they should get leeway unless they murder or rape willingly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24966684


Says you. If an 8 year old murders a 4 year old with a pair of scissors, fry him.

What's the alternative, steal several million dollars from non-citizens to keep him locked up forever? Or let him out to kill again?
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I am taking classes in Criminal Justice and I need to make a survey asking if children under the age of 18 should be tried as adults, so....... should they or shouldn't they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24966684


If they are old enough to do the crime, they are old enough to do the time.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


By old enough what do you mean? I feel that age 15 is old enough to know better. 8 they should know better but they should get leeway unless they murder or rape willingly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24966684


Says you. If an 8 year old murders a 4 year old with a pair of scissors, fry him.

What's the alternative, steal several million dollars from non-citizens to keep him locked up forever? Or let him out to kill again?
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Not what I said, I said UNLESS they murder or rape willingly.....
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If they are old enough to do the crime, they are old enough to do the time.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


By old enough what do you mean? I feel that age 15 is old enough to know better. 8 they should know better but they should get leeway unless they murder or rape willingly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24966684


Says you. If an 8 year old murders a 4 year old with a pair of scissors, fry him.

What's the alternative, steal several million dollars from non-citizens to keep him locked up forever? Or let him out to kill again?
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Not what I said, I said UNLESS they murder or rape willingly.....
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But then again I wouldn't agree with frying him hiding
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Nope. No way.
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Nope. No way.
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A 16 yr old that rapes, murders and then dismembers someone shouldn't be tried as an adult?
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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No. Young people are immature and stupid. Plus they can't even drink legally until they are 21. If they are going to charge people as adults they need to give them the freedom to live like adults.

I say they should make them join a military boot camp sort of program where they get scared straight. Actually would do quite a number of people I see around me some good, including perhaps myself.

People seem to have an aversion to discomfort these days. They are slothful and satisfy every material urge without any restraint.
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I think that most 13-17 year olds are fully capable of understanding the difference between right and wrong, however, they should be tried and held as teenagers, not adults. I think that should apply to all crimes, not just murder. No child 12 or under should EVER be tried as an adult.
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Nope. No way.
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A 16 yr old that rapes, murders and then dismembers someone shouldn't be tried as an adult?
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I have both a 15 year old and a 16 year old. Teenagers are still very much children. That's why they still live under my roof. It's why I still make most of their decisions. They are certainly not old enough to make life decisions at this age, so hell no, they shouldn't be tried as adults. They are NOT adults, they're kids. Period.

Do you think a 16 year old is old enough to make the decision on who our President is? Or to drink?

Kids do stupid things. They are not capable of seeing the end result of things at this age.

Luckily, my kids have been raised right. They are both ROTC kids, both involved in the community, they're in Honor's classes, they have respect for other people...As responsible as they are, though, they still aren't old enough to live on their own...
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Nope. No way.
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A 16 yr old that rapes, murders and then dismembers someone shouldn't be tried as an adult?
 Quoting: Debauchery


I have both a 15 year old and a 16 year old. Teenagers are still very much children. That's why they still live under my roof. It's why I still make most of their decisions. They are certainly not old enough to make life decisions at this age, so hell no, they shouldn't be tried as adults. They are NOT adults, they're kids. Period.

Do you think a 16 year old is old enough to make the decision on who our President is? Or to drink?

Kids do stupid things. They are not capable of seeing the end result of things at this age.

Luckily, my kids have been raised right. They are both ROTC kids, both involved in the community, they're in Honor's classes, they have respect for other people...As responsible as they are, though, they still aren't old enough to live on their own...
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In all fairness I don't think the majority of adults should be allowed to decide who is President, drink, or live on their own. chuckle
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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Nope. No way.
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A 16 yr old that rapes, murders and then dismembers someone shouldn't be tried as an adult?
 Quoting: Debauchery


I have both a 15 year old and a 16 year old. Teenagers are still very much children. That's why they still live under my roof. It's why I still make most of their decisions. They are certainly not old enough to make life decisions at this age, so hell no, they shouldn't be tried as adults. They are NOT adults, they're kids. Period.

Do you think a 16 year old is old enough to make the decision on who our President is? Or to drink?

Kids do stupid things. They are not capable of seeing the end result of things at this age.

Luckily, my kids have been raised right. They are both ROTC kids, both involved in the community, they're in Honor's classes, they have respect for other people...As responsible as they are, though, they still aren't old enough to live on their own...
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They should be held accountable for their actions. Yes. Absolutely. My kids have had many good life lessons...One time, when my 15 year old was about 8, he and a neighbor kid tore up my next door neighbors fence. Ugh. They were just having fun, being destructive...Didn't think that his actions affected another human being. Kids don't think like adults. Anyhow. We had a nice little talk, went to the bank, took out his savings, bought parts to repair the fence and then repaired it. He never destroyed anybody else's property. Ever. I didn't treat him like an adult in that situation, but he still had to pay the consequences...
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And you're right!!!!! Most adults don't have enough forethought to choose our President or drink! ha ha ha! Sad times we're living in.
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after 12...we should be allowed to hang them

these laws were made way back when kids were truly stupid because they weren't taught much. A 12 year old today is clever enough and probably could have been a governor or senator on the old days ( criminal-haha)
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I am taking classes in Criminal Justice and I need to make a survey asking if children under the age of 18 should be tried as adults, so....... should they or shouldn't they?
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For serious crimes like murder, yes. For more petty crimes, no.
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Absolutely not.

They are not adults. And are at the mercy of an immature brain.


The whole point behind doing said, is vengeance.

Not Justice.

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Nope. And I think that the adult age limit should be atleast 23, realistically.
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The last three posts were made by fucking morons.
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I think it depends on the crime... if it was premeditated murder, rape and like things, then yes, they should be tried as an adult... but if it's just something tupid like a drug related charge the First Time, no I don't think that they should be tried as an adult. I remember there was a story a couple of years ago, where 2 brothers that were as evil as they come (killing animals, throwing rocks at thouses and people, etc...), the parents and courts could do nothing to keep those 2 boys in line, getting in to "trouble" didn't fase those 2, but then they went and tortured a little boy to death, and then finally were tried as adults and should serve I believe life behind bars. They were truly evil little boys, I think one was 10 and the other like 12. Their whole town was relieved when the 2 were put behind bars.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS

And no if the parents were responsible and caring and did everything they could to keep their kids in line . If they let them run wild and could care less - then if there was something to pin on them, by all means. Some parents encourage bad behavior and have no business having offspring in the first place.

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