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people are no longer buying the tired old "defense" line

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/19/2012 05:13 PM
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Re: people are no longer buying the tired old "defense" line
If Gaza stops shooting their rockets, Israel will leave them alone.

End of story
 Quoting: *Evan*


Ha ha ha. You pretend to know who fired first, or indeed, know anything at all about the inner workings of the conflict, because you watch the TV news.

Ha ha ha. You funny guy.
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11/19/2012 05:14 PM
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Re: people are no longer buying the tired old "defense" line
If Gaza stops shooting their rockets, Israel will leave them alone.

End of story
 Quoting: *Evan*


Ha ha ha. You pretend to know who fired first, or indeed, know anything at all about the inner workings of the conflict, because you watch the TV news.

Ha ha ha. You funny guy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610727


I didn't pretend anything. I stated a fact.

Maybe they should try it...
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11/19/2012 05:17 PM
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Israel did not originally own Gaza, lol.

I see you don't read either, or care for history much i see. It only takes a lil research to see how wrong you are.

Just take a look at my previous posts(they actually have links in them). I even did the google search for you:)

It's funny how most of you who are acting so blind don't even reference anything to your claims and i keep proving you wrong. But you just keep going on the same argument you were told to go on, lol.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


Yeah, I can do a simple search too. Not that I needed to, but here is 10 seconds worth of searching. [link to www.pbs.org]

It happened in 1993 and was called the Oslo Accord.
 Quoting: Resister


My last link by itself references farther back than a simple propaganda headline, lol.

And only proves the point about how far back this goes. And it goes much farther back than another pretend peace treaty for Israeli PR.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


I am not ignorant of how far back into history conflict and claim of ownership over that tiny spot of land goes. It has been controlled by Israel, the British, the Ottomans, the Romans, The Assyrians, the Medo-Persians, the Egyptians… Seriously, how far back do you have to go? Saying that the rocket launchers in Gaza have every right to blast away at Israel today without reprisal is no different than saying the Sioux would be justified in launching rockets into Montana without expecting the National Guard to tear them a new one.
 Quoting: Resister


I see there is no trying to argue logic with you. Palestine was not just the Gaza strip before the fake jews arrived. The entire area we know of as Israel was once all occupied by Palestine. And it was taken by force.

You are still thinking single minded here and completely missing the point.

There are some very interesting pics in this link
[link to fasttimesinpalestine.wordpress.com]

This is what the map of Palestine used to look like
[link to www.google.com]

Look familiar? I think they may have a right to be a lil bit pissed off.

Last Edited by DoubleHelix on 11/19/2012 05:18 PM
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Yeah, I can do a simple search too. Not that I needed to, but here is 10 seconds worth of searching. [link to www.pbs.org]

It happened in 1993 and was called the Oslo Accord.
 Quoting: Resister


My last link by itself references farther back than a simple propaganda headline, lol.

And only proves the point about how far back this goes. And it goes much farther back than another pretend peace treaty for Israeli PR.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


I am not ignorant of how far back into history conflict and claim of ownership over that tiny spot of land goes. It has been controlled by Israel, the British, the Ottomans, the Romans, The Assyrians, the Medo-Persians, the Egyptians… Seriously, how far back do you have to go? Saying that the rocket launchers in Gaza have every right to blast away at Israel today without reprisal is no different than saying the Sioux would be justified in launching rockets into Montana without expecting the National Guard to tear them a new one.
 Quoting: Resister


I see there is no trying to argue logic with you. Palestine was not just the Gaza strip before the fake jews arrived. The entire area we know of as Israel was once all occupied by Palestine. And it was taken by force.

You are still thinking single minded here and completely missing the point.

There are some very interesting pics in this link
[link to fasttimesinpalestine.wordpress.com]

This is what the map of Palestine used to look like
[link to www.google.com]

Look familiar? I think they may have a right to be a lil bit pissed off.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


I told you not to bother Resister. You presented facts that were inconvenient to the posters beliefs, so instead of responding to what you said, it was ignored.

Just as I said...
Resister

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11/19/2012 05:27 PM
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Yeah, I can do a simple search too. Not that I needed to, but here is 10 seconds worth of searching. [link to www.pbs.org]

It happened in 1993 and was called the Oslo Accord.
 Quoting: Resister


My last link by itself references farther back than a simple propaganda headline, lol.

And only proves the point about how far back this goes. And it goes much farther back than another pretend peace treaty for Israeli PR.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


I am not ignorant of how far back into history conflict and claim of ownership over that tiny spot of land goes. It has been controlled by Israel, the British, the Ottomans, the Romans, The Assyrians, the Medo-Persians, the Egyptians… Seriously, how far back do you have to go? Saying that the rocket launchers in Gaza have every right to blast away at Israel today without reprisal is no different than saying the Sioux would be justified in launching rockets into Montana without expecting the National Guard to tear them a new one.
 Quoting: Resister


I see there is no trying to argue logic with you. Palestine was not just the Gaza strip before the fake jews arrived. The entire area we know of as Israel was once all occupied by Palestine. And it was taken by force.

You are still thinking single minded here and completely missing the point.

There are some very interesting pics in this link
[link to fasttimesinpalestine.wordpress.com]

This is what the map of Palestine used to look like
[link to www.google.com]

Look familiar? I think they may have a right to be a lil bit pissed off.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


The name Palestine was given to the area by Rome as an insult to Israel which it had conquered because it was the Latin derivation of Israel’s enemies the Philistines. They did the same thing for what today is the Northern coastline of the continent of we know as Africa. The Romans renamed it in honor of the general who conquered it, Sipio Africanus.

My point still stands. Call the area whatever you want. Israel controls it again now and the people who are attacking them from Gaza are paying the price for their continued attacks.

Last Edited by Resister on 11/19/2012 05:32 PM
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
[link to line-in-the-sand.blogspot.com]
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Re: people are no longer buying the tired old "defense" line
I told you not to bother Resister. You presented facts that were inconvenient to the posters beliefs, so instead of responding to what you said, it was ignored.

Just as I said...
 Quoting: *Evan*


You are right. I was just feeling a little cantankerous.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
[link to line-in-the-sand.blogspot.com]
*Evan*

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Re: people are no longer buying the tired old "defense" line
I told you not to bother Resister. You presented facts that were inconvenient to the posters beliefs, so instead of responding to what you said, it was ignored.

Just as I said...
 Quoting: *Evan*


You are right. I was just feeling a little cantankerous.
 Quoting: Resister


Nice word drop.
DoubleHelix

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11/19/2012 05:38 PM
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Re: people are no longer buying the tired old "defense" line
The info is there for anyone to assess on their own.

Belive what you want :P

I made my point

Peace
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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“Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca
*Evan*

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11/19/2012 05:56 PM
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Re: people are no longer buying the tired old "defense" line
The info is there for anyone to assess on their own.

Belive what you want :P

I made my point

Peace
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


byekitty
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11/19/2012 06:07 PM
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[link to www.ifamericansknew.org]

"As the periodic bloodshed continues in the Middle East, the search for an equitable solution must come to grips with the root cause of the conflict. The conventional wisdom is that, even if both sides are at fault, the Palestinians are irrational “terrorists” who have no point of view worth listening to. Our position, however, is that the Palestinians have a real grievance: their homeland for over a thousand years was taken, without their consent and mostly by force, during the creation of the state of Israel. And all subsequent crimes — on both sides — inevitably follow from this original injustice."

So you were saying...

I don't know whether you are just really really stupid leftard and actually believe the propaganda, sound bites you are regurgitating - but here it is directly from the horses mouth about who and what the 'palestinians' were invented for - an there are plenty more quotes from Arab leaders expressing the same thing!



 Quoting: DoubleHelix


On March 31, 1977 in the Dutch newspaper Trouw, in an interview with PLO executive committee member, Zahir Muhsein said:

“The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, ‘Palestinians’, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism.”

[link to gatesofvienna.blogspot.co.uk]
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11/19/2012 06:20 PM
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As Ion Mihai Pacepa, onetime director of the Romanian espionage service (DIE), later explained, the PLO was conceived at a time when the KGB was creating “liberation front” organizations throughout the Third world. Others included the National Liberation Army of Bolivia, created in 1964 with help from Ernesto “Che” Guevara, and the National Liberation Army of Colombia, created in 1965 with help from Fidel Castro. But the PLO was the KGB’s most enduring achievement.

In 1964, the first PLO Council, consisting of 422 Palestinian representatives handpicked by the KGB, approved the Soviet blueprint for a Palestinian National Charter—a document drafted in Moscow—and made Ahmad Shukairy, the KGB’s agent of influence, the first PLO chairman. The Romanian intelligence service was given responsibility for providing the PLO with logistical support. Except for the arms, which were supplied by the KGB and the East German Stasi, everything, according to Ion Pacepa, “came from Bucharest. Even the PLO uniforms and the PLO stationery were manufactured in Romania free of charge, as a ‘comradely help.’ During those years, two Romanian cargo planes filled with goodies for the PLO landed in Beirut every week.”

The PLO came on the scene at a critical moment in Middle East history. At the Khartoum conference held shortly after the Six-Day war, the defeated and humiliated Arab states confronted the “new reality” of an Israel that seemed unbeatable in conventional warfare. The participants of the conference decided, among other things, to continue the war against Israel as what today would be called a “low intensity conflict.” The PLO’s Fatah forces were perfect to carry out this mission.

The Soviets not only armed and trained Palestinian terrorists but also used them to arm and train other professional terrorists by the thousands. The International Department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party (CPSU), the Soviet Security Police (KGB), and Soviet Military Intelligence (GRU) all played major roles in this effort. From the late 1960s onwards, moreover, the PLO maintained contact with other terror groups—some of them neo-Nazi and extreme right-wing groups—offering them support and supplies, training and funding.


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11/19/2012 06:25 PM
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In the PLO’s original founding Charter (or Covenant), Article 24 states:

“this Organization does not exercise any regional sovereignty over the west Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, in the Gaza Strip or the Himmah area.” For Arafat, “Palestine” was not the west Bank or the Gaza Strip, which after 1948 belonged to other Arab states. The only “homeland” for the PLO in 1964 was the State of Israel.

However, in response to the Six-Day war and Arafat’s mentoring by the Soviets and their allies, the PLO revised its Charter on July 17, 1968, to remove the language of Article 24, thereby newly asserting a “Palestinian” claim of sovereignty to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

Part of the reframing of the conflict, along with adopting the identity of an “oppressed people” and “victim of colonialism,” then, was the creation, ex nihilo, of “historic Palestine” and the ancient “Palestinian people” who had lived in their “homeland” from “time immemorial,” who could trace their “heritage” back to the Canaanites, who were forced from their homeland by the Zionists, and who had the inalienable right granted by international law and universal justice to use terror to reclaim their national identity and political self-determination.



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11/19/2012 06:38 PM
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Re: people are no longer buying the tired old "defense" line
The info is there for anyone to assess on their own.

Belive what you want :P

I made my point

Peace
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


byekitty
 Quoting: *Evan*


Looks like the Israelis like to launch rockets at themselves to give them an excuse to murder more children.

11 so far or just yesterday?

Murdering children is never right and no excuse is sufficient. I feel sorry for their doomed Satan worshiping spirits.
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Thread: Here is why Israel feels it can invade a country that is not theirs.
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

My email-troubledfelix@gmail.com 1111x1111=1234321<[NUMERICAL PYRAMID;]

“Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca

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