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Orlando Health to cut record number of jobs to save money --400 jobs cut!--OBAMACARE IN ACTION--Happening Nationwide! Over 2000 cuts just now

 
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Kaiser is laying off 510. I tried to post the link but got a warning msg....
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16 million Americans are expected to gain private health insurance coverage by 2019. One analysis from Bloomberg government finds that insurers can expect a $778 billion increase in revenue over the next decade because of that.

“Insurers have the most to gain here,” says Bloomberg health care analyst Matt Barry, who wrote that report. “There are a lot of dollars flowing through them.”

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Sweden and their big gov't utopia is the model we will follow, it was a test bed.

www.crisismagazine.com/2011/swedens-big-government-utopia-unm​asked
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Sweden and their big gov't utopia is the model we will follow, it was a test bed.

www.crisismagazine.com/2011/swedens-big-government-utopia-unm​asked
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We don't have Sweden's genetically homogeneous and superior population.

We're more like Zimbabwe with Warez subdivisions now.

We're in for a zero-health care, zero-government services collapse, followed by tribal warfare.

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I lied!!! Fooled you! Thanks for voting for me, I got 4 more years to destroy USA!
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Sweden and their big gov't utopia is the model we will follow, it was a test bed.

www.crisismagazine.com/2011/swedens-big-government-utopia-unm​asked
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Sure if it works at local/ state level... Sweden is a shitty example.
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I think this is a pretty big deal.

Multiply this across the nation in health care and not only do we have a disaster in job loss but more so in lack of health care available.

This is going to be a total disaster, You may not think so until there is no care available for you when you need it and then it will be too late.
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they are totally over reacting. In fact, they will have MORE patients, as more people are actually able to buy into insurance!!!! Just like hostess' long term goal was to ALWAYS ship jobs over to Mexico, they just needed a way to do it "legitimally"; the hospitals, along with EVERY other business in the US - is hell bent on bringing down wages for EVERYONE accross the board. Any excuse they can use to lay people off, then eventually hire them back at lower wages has been going on since Bush 2!!! It's their plan, haven't you all caught on YET!?
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Liberalism destroys everything it touches.
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Hey, if it's good enough for France, it's good enough for us!
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But, obviously in the long run the health care sector will do VERY VERY well from Obamacare:

Tens of millions of people will have health insurance who didnt previously = millions of new consumers.

What am I missing here?
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WRONG!

Big guberment trying to bail out it's own ass will do well from ObamaCare. Hospitals will have to deal with so much more cost and regulation to provide care over what they already have to deal with as a result of insurance and guberment regulation, as well as litigation.
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This is my surprised face.



Our last local factory announced over the weekend that there are layoffs coming in december. Good times coming for those folks right at christmas.


FOR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!.....
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Liberalism destroys everything it touches.
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Hey, if it's good enough for France, it's good enough for us!
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It's falling apart in France right now...
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Re: Orlando Health to cut record number of jobs to save money --400 jobs cut!--OBAMACARE IN ACTION--Happening Nationwide! Over 2000 cuts just now
HEALTHCARE IS THE CANARY IN THE MINE. This is bad news folks.

Unlike heavily gumerment-subsidized sectors of the economy, healthcare experienced organic growth for decades based on the economic realities of supply and demand.

Decisions to grow or cut are made by people who have to account for profit/loss and deal with budget deficits by cutting, unlike the guberment who can spend to infinity and beyond. They don't cut unless it's absolutely necessary. They can see that ObamaCare is a net cost to the hospital so large as to have to cut EXISTING staff, before the real burden of ObamaCare hits in 2014-2016.

Nursing students down the street at UCF (Orlando) are worried about their futures like they haven't worried before. They should be.
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don't you know that we're the happiest place on earth and NOBODY gets sick here?
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Doctors get paid too much.
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Really? At the age of 50 yrs old, UPS drivers and doctors have the same net worth...



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It's falling apart in France right now...
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But how can that be!? They elected a Socialist into their presidency several months ago, who's no less liberal than Obama is. And everyone knows that everything liberals touch turns into gold.
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the article has 150 comments in only 8 hours and that is rapidly growing.
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Doctors get paid too much.
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Considering they don't abort every libtard like you on sight, you're right.

Otherwise, it's none of your fucking business how much anyone else makes.

Worry about your own worthless ass for a change.

hf
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+1 Trillion
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Add this one to the list too...


SAN DIEGO – One of the nation’s largest HMOs is laying off 530 employees in Southern California this weekend, including some in San Diego County, a company official confirmed.

Kaiser Permanente said the layoffs — constituting about eight-tenths of one percent of it employees — would be spread across its 65,700 employees and doctors working in offices and hospitals from Kern County to the Mexican border. Under its union contracts, the laid-off employees who are in unions will get income and benefits for a year. Many may also be rehired next year, when Kaiser Permanente expects “significant membership growth.”

[link to fox5sandiego.com]
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2000 cut jibs is like the tiniest drop in the ocean, lol




plus, i guess the jobs were not important...


life IS more impotant than 90% of all existing jobs anyways:)
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You did get that these 2000 jobs are just in 3 cities' healthcare systems?

I think that is more than a drop in the ocean in 3 mid-sized healthcare systems.

Nationwide it is going to be enormous.

Last Edited by Bluebird on 11/19/2012 07:50 PM
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Sweden and their big gov't utopia is the model we will follow, it was a test bed.

www.crisismagazine.com/2011/swedens-big-government-utopia-unm​asked
 Quoting: Reble 27086568


We don't have Sweden's genetically homogeneous and superior population.

We're more like Zimbabwe with Warez subdivisions now.

We're in for a zero-health care, zero-government services collapse, followed by tribal warfare.

Have Thy Shit In Order.
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Exactly! And Sweden is about the size of a mid to small state!

Besides, Obama says it's the British system he is going for, the one that lets over a hundred thousand elderly die each year of preventable deaths because it is not cost effective.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Liberalism destroys everything it touches.
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Hey, if it's good enough for France, it's good enough for us!
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My friends in France hire a private physician off the record because the healthcare is such a joke. Blackmarket healthcare? And it costs like anything to do that but it's the only way they can get adequate care.
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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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But, obviously in the long run the health care sector will do VERY VERY well from Obamacare:

Tens of millions of people will have health insurance who didnt previously = millions of new consumers.

What am I missing here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16682454




You are missing quite a lot. About 16 million will have coverage, much of which will come from state medicaid and will eventually become an unfunded mandate to the states.

It forces insurance companies to take all pre-existing conditons and that alone can break the private insurances when they can no longer have any say over who they insure.

Obamacare will underpay hopitals and physicians the way Medicare and Medicaid often do now and they can't absord the cost.

And it leaves another 16 million without insurance.

The idea is to put the private insurances out of business so there in only the government plan left.

And the care must be "cost effective" without regard to available treatments and technology today. That's code for panels that will deny care should it be deemed the results are often not successful or the person too old or whatever, has bad lifestyles and so forth.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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I think this is a pretty big deal.

Multiply this across the nation in health care and not only do we have a disaster in job loss but more so in lack of health care available.

This is going to be a total disaster, You may not think so until there is no care available for you when you need it and then it will be too late.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Patient load will adjust to the healthcare resources available.
In short a lot of people are going to get laid off and then people will die and few lawyers will get rich , then doctors will start saying fuck it and more people will die.
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Yes we can!
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I think this is a pretty big deal.

Multiply this across the nation in health care and not only do we have a disaster in job loss but more so in lack of health care available.

This is going to be a total disaster, You may not think so until there is no care available for you when you need it and then it will be too late.
 Quoting: Bluebird


they are totally over reacting. In fact, they will have MORE patients, as more people are actually able to buy into insurance!!!! Just like hostess' long term goal was to ALWAYS ship jobs over to Mexico, they just needed a way to do it "legitimally"; the hospitals, along with EVERY other business in the US - is hell bent on bringing down wages for EVERYONE accross the board. Any excuse they can use to lay people off, then eventually hire them back at lower wages has been going on since Bush 2!!! It's their plan, haven't you all caught on YET!?
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Yeah, Obamacare is really Bush's fault, right? And employers were doing that long before Bush in case you didn't know it.

Healthcare premiums have already gone up $2500 a year so I don't understand what you mean that people will "actually be able to buy insurance" if they can't already with the prices rising like this.

And many if not most hospitals are tax-funded and not for profit in the first place so you are a bit confused as to their motives. It's not as though they even expect to make a profit. if tax-funded.

They are ALREADY losing money and can't afford to treat people at the Medicare/Medicaid rate of payment. And certainly not anything like we are accustomed to treatment being tin this country. Maybe a third world treatment is OK with some but I liked things the way they were much better, seeing an actual physician instead of just a nurse for example.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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I'm sure 0bamacare will be run with as much efficiency as the postal service.

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Truest thing ever said on GLP.
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The stupid fuckers who wanted this were told this would happen but they always know better than everyone else.

Enjoy your free non-existant health care
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Florida prison health care system to cut 1,890 jobs

TALLAHASSEE — Nearly 2,000 state workers are being displaced from Gov. Rick Scott's administration because of the nation's biggest outsourcing of prison health care.

"Due to the outsourcing of this function, your position will be deleted," reads a dryly worded dismissal notice from the Department of Corrections, sent to 1,890 state employees in the past two weeks.

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The takers don't care--they voted for the commie.

Of course, when the shtf, they'll care--too late you stupid fucks.
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Doctors get paid too much.
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certain ones maybe. but a good brain/heart surgeon(doctors alone these lines) are worth their weight in gold. people with the talent and the smarts should be paid to keep them.

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