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But, obviously in the long run the health care sector will do VERY VERY well from Obamacare:

Tens of millions of people will have health insurance who didnt previously = millions of new consumers.

What am I missing here?
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the cost to treat them maybe?
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I am a family doc in a small town in northern Ohio. I admit patients to a small hospital (40 beds) in the next town over. I have been in practice for going on 28 years...so I've seen some shit in my time.

I don't know for sure what's going to happen over the next few years, I'm not psychic.

I seriously doubt that my little hospital will be there in 2 years...they are already struggling...the current CEO is out for himself(that's my opinion). Obama will most likly swallow it up

But It will still come down to taking care of people.

OP and others have mentioned not enough doctors...Yep, that's going to happen

But there are still a few of us that were called to this profession. Being a doctor is the only thing I wanted to do since I was 10 years old. Despite all the day to day BS I face, I still think I am living my dream.

Despite what all the Fu**heads tell me I'm supposed to do, I will find a way to do what I think in smart and right by the people that see me. There is always some BS you can use that gets the right thing for that particular person.

Don't think I agree with Obamacare and what's going on....its going to be a charlie foxtrot.

But that damn responsibilty gene in me keeps rearing its ugly head...I will keep on trying. It is what I was put here to do.

I feel like I am a dieing breed. So be it. I will go out feeloing I did my best

Didn't mean to get preachy......sorry
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Awww, now you really are a doctor. Bless your heart! You keep keeping on and things will somehow work out. Bet lots of those who are called to the profession will find a way to help people no matter what. It might come to being a country type doc who flies under the radar.

hf
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Florida prison health care system to cut 1,890 jobs

TALLAHASSEE — Nearly 2,000 state workers are being displaced from Gov. Rick Scott's administration because of the nation's biggest outsourcing of prison health care.

"Due to the outsourcing of this function, your position will be deleted," reads a dryly worded dismissal notice from the Department of Corrections, sent to 1,890 state employees in the past two weeks.

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I have a feeling we are going to see a lot more notices like this. That's a lot of jobsfor just a few counties given taht some may be re-hired.

What really gets me is people STILL claiming and pretending this is not going to be the end of healthcare as we know it.

We can't just go back to the way it was as private insurance won't exist any more and it would take a long, long time to educate new doctors to replace the ones who will quit, retire early or not go into medicine in the first place.
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Hey this is where my wife gets her cancer treatment.

ORMC/Arnie Palmer and MD Anderson kind of interconnected.
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Liberalism destroys everything it touches.
 Quoting: Ted Nougat 1339238


Hey, if it's good enough for France, it's good enough for us!
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My friends in France hire a private physician off the record because the healthcare is such a joke. Blackmarket healthcare? And it costs like anything to do that but it's the only way they can get adequate care.
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I believe that
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The Pharmaceutical companies have all of the doctors and health care providers in their pocket, making drugs to cure symptoms and never actually curing a disease, gobbling BILLIONS in donations and gifts through their bought-and-paid-for foundations to "fight" disease and instead they squander the money and PROLONG DISEASE because -- well, that's how they make their fucking BILLIONS.

The CEO, CFO, COO and all the other Cs and SVPs of Big Pharma rake in millions in salary and bonuses and stock options.

Fuck them. THEY are the problem. Allopathic Western Medicine is the PROBLEM.

IT IS IN THEIR INTEREST FOR PEOPLE TO BE SICK.

Health care costs are high because of the Medical Mafia. And the more they can wring out of sheeple who don't get it, the more they laugh all the way to the bank.

(And Karma is a bitch, boys and girls. You people who profit from people being sick rather than cured [AND know it] will pay for it big time after you leave this 3D earth.)
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Those are just lost health care jobs. Think of the millions of other jobs that will be lost
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Those are just lost health care jobs. Think of the millions of other jobs that will be lost
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It's sickening, isn't it! And sad to watch our country suffering like this and knowing it's only going to get worse and could be prevented.
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The reality is our healthcare system's being dismantled. The stupid, uniformed electorate that voted for four more years of this are about to find out that you can't get something for nothing. We're all going to suffer as a result.
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I wonder if they will quit doing unnecessary procedures? Somehow I doubt it...Healthcare was having problems before Obamacare, are we just adding more nails?

[link to www.lawyersandsettlements.com]

"The Times investigation reported that cardiology is lucrative for HCA, which is reimbursed by Medicare $3,000 for each diagnostic catheterization and about $10,000 for the insertion of a cardiac stent. Thus, any evidence or allegations related to unnecessary procedures translates to more revenue for the hospital involved.

This is not the first time HCA has been accused of Medicare fraud. A case pursued by the Justice Department dating back to 2000 resulted in the eventual payment of $1.7 billion in fines and repayments on the part of HCA.

HCA denied its decisions at its hospitals were motivated by financial considerations, but rather "demonstrate the strong focus we have on quality patient care."
It should be noted that HCA ethics officers investigate all complaints and allegations of unnecessary procedures. However, a review of various communications inherent with those investigations reflect a greater importance on how a physician's activities may have affected the hospital's bottom line, than the welfare of the patient."


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Multiple clinical trials have shown that cardiac stents are no more effective than drugs or lifestyle changes in preventing heart attacks or death. Although some studies have shown that stents provide short-term relief of chest pain, up to 30 percent of patients receiving stents have no chest pain to begin with, and thus derive no more benefit from this invasive procedure than from equally effective and far less expensive medicines. Risks associated with stent implantation, meanwhile, include exposure to radiation and to dyes that can damage the kidneys, and in rare cases, death from the stent itself. Yet one study estimated that Medicare spends $1.6 billion on drug-coated stents (the most common type of cardiac stents) annually.

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just the beginn' folks
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It is! We have this and the ruling not to re-admit for 30 days following a hospital discharge, both of which are a disaster in the making and yet no one seems very concerned.
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My mother went through a period of a few years where she was very ill. I can't even remember how many times she was released and had to go back within the month. Under obamacare a person will be denied admission and suffer at home and in many cases die. I also imagine that hospitals will be forced to prematurely release people, especially the elderly.

Excellent find, Bluebird. Scary as hell.

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Liberalism destroys everything it touches.
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Hey, if it's good enough for France, it's good enough for us!
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My friends in France hire a private physician off the record because the healthcare is such a joke. Blackmarket healthcare? And it costs like anything to do that but it's the only way they can get adequate care.
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Just like people who can afford it come across the border into the U.S. from Canada. Instead of waiting months and months for surgery they have surgery within a week of two in the U.S. Not to mention the quality of the care is far superior here.
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Sweden and their big gov't utopia is the model we will follow, it was a test bed.

www.crisismagazine.com/2011/swedens-big-government-utopia-unm​asked
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We don't have Sweden's genetically homogeneous and superior population.

We're more like Zimbabwe with Warez subdivisions now.

We're in for a zero-health care, zero-government services collapse, followed by tribal warfare.

Have Thy Shit In Order.
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Correct. For those who need further assisstance on this point -

This was/is the goal of Multicultural Education(Brainwashing) for America: convince the masses they must accept every nuance of "culture" as morally equivalent to any other and define Americans in terms of what demographic group they belong to (Identity Politics). Should anyone dare question or protest another, label them in the harshest of terms - Hate-filled, Bigot, "phobic," Intolerant, etc.

It's all a a lie. America HAS A CULTURE. It's NOT Multi-Cultural. It's Multi-Ethnic, certainly.

If you think I am being overly dramatic, just consider the last election...way back like 2 weeks ago. HALF the voters voted for a profoundly UNamerican template for our Nation. Talk about American Values with people and see the response.
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does anyone give a ratzingers ass if convicts get shitty healthcare and die ? I sure don't.

does anyone care if parasite civil serpents get fucked in the ass long time with a splintered stick by elected officials ? cause again , I sure dont
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Face it folks. If you have kids, they are not going to have the standard of living that you enjoyed. Half the country voted for this travesty called Obamacare and now we all suffer. I fear for the lives of my diabetic elderly parents who will be made to feel they are a burden on society.I fear for anyone who becomes seriously ill and finds themselves at the mercy of a gov't bureaucrat who will make all the healthcare decisions. And for anyone who still believes the lie that "if you like your healthcare plan you can keep it" then you are in for a rude rude awakening. Oh, and let's not forget the rationing and death panels. For everyone who voted for Obama and the demise of America, I say you can all go to hell.
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The reason these cuts can be made is because with Obamacare hospitals and Dr.s offices are required to use EMR (electronic medical records). If they don't they get fined and or get reduced payment from the government. Some Dr's and hospitals are taking the hit but in places where Medicare and Medicaid are a large percentage of the billing that is detrimental to the bottom line. So anyway back to the EMR, because of it they can cut out alot of positions because in the way the system works billing is streamlined and pharmacy is electronic, ect...
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Nurse managers do not do billing. I cannot believe you think they are cutting positions because EMR will streamline things! In my area there are already 2 large practices no longer accepting medicare patients. Now why do you suppose that is??? HMMMM??? Also, front page of my local paper last week was an article stating that reimbursement for all surgeries will be outcome based.Stop and think about what that means!To me it means that if you are a poor risk, good luck finding a surgeon who could perhaps save your life because that surgeon/hospital risks not getting reimbursed. This is what the Obama voters voted for. Scumbags.
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Just like people who can afford it come across the border into the U.S. from Canada. Instead of waiting months and months for surgery they have surgery within a week of two in the U.S. Not to mention the quality of the care is far superior here.
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More outsourcing:
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

"If the medical tourist wants to go “cheap”, few countries beat India. Reports from various sources point to huge price differences:

Heart surgery is typically priced at $50,000 in America, $14,200 in Thailand and $4,000 in India.
For liver transplants, it’s $500,00 (America), $75,000 (Thailand) and $45,000 in India.
For bone marrow transplants, prices are closer – $62,500 in both America and Thailand. In India, the bill is roughly halved.
Clearly, with some of the treatment costs a fraction of the American rates, flights and a week or two staying in a top hotel are minor factors.

India has quickly developed a lively trade, despite the known hazards of medical tourism – variable infectious-disease rates, different medical-accreditation standards for staff, and exposure to organisms against which the patient has no built-in resistance.

This last point is a particular hazard for people in fragile health. Dysentery and mosquito-borne diseases such as malaria, dengue and chikungunya fever are widespread and could derail recovery. Long flights in cramped airliners are a known risk for circulatory problems."

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Nurse managers do not do billing. I cannot believe you think they are cutting positions because EMR will streamline things! In my area there are already 2 large practices no longer accepting medicare patients. Now why do you suppose that is??? HMMMM??? Also, front page of my local paper last week was an article stating that reimbursement for all surgeries will be outcome based.Stop and think about what that means!To me it means that if you are a poor risk, good luck finding a surgeon who could perhaps save your life because that surgeon/hospital risks not getting reimbursed. This is what the Obama voters voted for. Scumbags.
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I know nurses dont do billing but they can cut down on the amount of persons because they can get, now I dont have the technical term but, people who are paid less almost like an CNA that can send info to the Dr's anywhere and get medication clearance and the nurses only have to be there to give shots and stuff that CNAs cant do... My hubby is the project manager here at our hospital for this EHR (Electronic Health Records). He has told me that when it's all up they would only need one person in the business office, right now there are around 30, so that right there that should tell you something. Also he's had recruiters calling him to be a project manager at other hospitals around the US because most hospitals were waiting to see how the election went before they did anything, thinking maybe Obamacare would be repelled. So I'd be looking for lots of layoffs soon. And seriously they are paying lots for these systems here we spent $4 million and it's a 45 bed hospital. They mean business with this too cause his starting salary and he's gotten these numbers from several hospital interviews begins at a base of $120/hr, not including bonuses and benefits.
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Doctors get paid too much.
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NOT ALL DRS>

I know drs. good country drs. gen pract drs that treat people for free if they need - then I see them shopping at the salvation army where I shop - good people - that are QUITTING their practice because of this health care bill.

I know of several drs like this - one has saved my life twice. he is a genius and kind man. but sees the health care bill as unamerican and an octopus of paper work that would bankrupt him.

wake up america.

read what else is in that 2000 page bill
NDAA
chip implants to computer monitor health care given by new medical gestapo.

WAKE UP - start with googling the bill and reading at least page 1004.
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I am a family doc in a small town in northern Ohio. I admit patients to a small hospital (40 beds) in the next town over. I have been in practice for going on 28 years...so I've seen some shit in my time.

I don't know for sure what's going to happen over the next few years, I'm not psychic.

I seriously doubt that my little hospital will be there in 2 years...they are already struggling...the current CEO is out for himself(that's my opinion). Obama will most likly swallow it up

But It will still come down to taking care of people.

OP and others have mentioned not enough doctors...Yep, that's going to happen

But there are still a few of us that were called to this profession. Being a doctor is the only thing I wanted to do since I was 10 years old. Despite all the day to day BS I face, I still think I am living my dream.

Despite what all the Fu**heads tell me I'm supposed to do, I will find a way to do what I think in smart and right by the people that see me. There is always some BS you can use that gets the right thing for that particular person.

Don't think I agree with Obamacare and what's going on....its going to be a charlie foxtrot.

But that damn responsibilty gene in me keeps rearing its ugly head...I will keep on trying. It is what I was put here to do.

I feel like I am a dieing breed. So be it. I will go out feeloing I did my best

Didn't mean to get preachy......sorry
 Quoting: acdr


Awww, now you really are a doctor. Bless your heart! You keep keeping on and things will somehow work out. Bet lots of those who are called to the profession will find a way to help people no matter what. It might come to being a country type doc who flies under the radar.

hf
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God bless you, good doctor. Don't give up. This country needs more like you.
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Sweden and their big gov't utopia is the model we will follow, it was a test bed.

www.crisismagazine.com/2011/swedens-big-government-utopia-unm​asked
 Quoting: Reble 27086568


We don't have Sweden's genetically homogeneous and superior population.

We're more like Zimbabwe with Warez subdivisions now.

We're in for a zero-health care, zero-government services collapse, followed by tribal warfare.

Have Thy Shit In Order.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Exactly! And Sweden is about the size of a mid to small state!

Besides, Obama says it's the British system he is going for, the one that lets over a hundred thousand elderly die each year of preventable deaths because it is not cost effective.
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Exactly, as if "cost effective" is anything he's even remotely concerned with.
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Sweden and their big gov't utopia is the model we will follow, it was a test bed.

www.crisismagazine.com/2011/swedens-big-government-utopia-unm​asked
 Quoting: Reble 27086568


We don't have Sweden's genetically homogeneous and superior population.

We're more like Zimbabwe with Warez subdivisions now.

We're in for a zero-health care, zero-government services collapse, followed by tribal warfare.

Have Thy Shit In Order.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Correct. For those who need further assisstance on this point -

This was/is the goal of Multicultural Education(Brainwashing) for America: convince the masses they must accept every nuance of "culture" as morally equivalent to any other and define Americans in terms of what demographic group they belong to (Identity Politics). Should anyone dare question or protest another, label them in the harshest of terms - Hate-filled, Bigot, "phobic," Intolerant, etc.

It's all a a lie. America HAS A CULTURE. It's NOT Multi-Cultural. It's Multi-Ethnic, certainly.

If you think I am being overly dramatic, just consider the last election...way back like 2 weeks ago. HALF the voters voted for a profoundly UNamerican template for our Nation. Talk about American Values with people and see the response.
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useless eaters get useless healthcare the problem will sort itself as demand destruction levels off the patient to doctor ratio. in short if you have sick people in the family buy funeral insurance
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I am a family doc in a small town in northern Ohio. I admit patients to a small hospital (40 beds) in the next town over. I have been in practice for going on 28 years...so I've seen some shit in my time.

I don't know for sure what's going to happen over the next few years, I'm not psychic.

I seriously doubt that my little hospital will be there in 2 years...they are already struggling...the current CEO is out for himself(that's my opinion). Obama will most likly swallow it up

But It will still come down to taking care of people.

OP and others have mentioned not enough doctors...Yep, that's going to happen

But there are still a few of us that were called to this profession. Being a doctor is the only thing I wanted to do since I was 10 years old. Despite all the day to day BS I face, I still think I am living my dream.

Despite what all the Fu**heads tell me I'm supposed to do, I will find a way to do what I think in smart and right by the people that see me. There is always some BS you can use that gets the right thing for that particular person.

Don't think I agree with Obamacare and what's going on....its going to be a charlie foxtrot.

But that damn responsibilty gene in me keeps rearing its ugly head...I will keep on trying. It is what I was put here to do.

I feel like I am a dieing breed. So be it. I will go out feeloing I did my best

Didn't mean to get preachy......sorry
 Quoting: acdr


Awww, now you really are a doctor. Bless your heart! You keep keeping on and things will somehow work out. Bet lots of those who are called to the profession will find a way to help people no matter what. It might come to being a country type doc who flies under the radar.

hf
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God bless you, good doctor. Don't give up. This country needs more like you.
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I feel I am a breed that will not persist. the residents that are coming out are being taught to believe "evidence based medicine" Essentially that means that it has to be proved by studies designed to prove something.

the problem with that,I see> is to only believe what someone tells you to believe. don't believe what you see with your own eyes.

In the past (early 20th century), most research was down by university centers and special research hospitals. somewhere about1970, that changed. Medicare and other payment reimbursemant plans(like Medicaid) took out these university centers. Only centers that set up agreements with BIG Pharma got "research grants" to continue this kind of research. If you did not play with big pharma you got squat...then you died.

To quote will shakespeare,"there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamed of in you philospohy...". I have seen things in my practice of roughly 28 years. I have not read them in the literature...yet I know they work. I have seen things in the literature that tell me to use them....but I know they will probably NOT work. Its called experience. The new docs are told to ignore this information.

Hopefully the new folks coming out will eventually see this as being true
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. Only centers that set up agreements with BIG Pharma got "research grants" to continue this kind of research. If you did not play with big pharma you got squat...then you died.

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And don't forget this cluster f**k of conflicting interests-

"Federal agency blocks FDA-approved marijuana research for veterans


The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has blocked a pilot study to examine the benefits of marijuana for veterans with treatment-resistant post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).

The study was sponsored by the nonprofit research organization the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), and would have been conducted by Dr. Sue Sisley of the University of Arizona at Phoenix.

“Hundreds of veterans in medical marijuana states already report using marijuana to control their PTSD symptoms,” MAPS said in a statement. “The growing number of service members returning from Iraq and Afghanistan with combat-related trauma combined with large numbers of treatment-resistant veterans highlights the pressing need for research into additional treatments for PTSD
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The whole private health care industry is going to collapse by design because that Marxist bastard wants a "single payer" system.


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Exactly---that provision requiring insurance companies to pay out 80% or more in some cases of what they take in is what will collapse them. It is by design, to morph in to a single payer system which is what that little twit wanted in the first place. Total government control; even more people out of work.
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does anyone give a ratzingers ass if convicts get shitty healthcare and die ? I sure don't.

does anyone care if parasite civil serpents get fucked in the ass long time with a splintered stick by elected officials ? cause again , I sure dont
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does anyone care if illegal alien wetbacks get health care? I sure don't!
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