ARKstorm Hitting PNW.....now...More To Come

el nada LOL good one

Where is this EXACTLY?? I live in SE Oregon

You another one of those California transplants OP? This is normal weather for the PNW. Some years are worse than others sure but this is not abnormal.

meteorologists and park rangers disagree.

Actually it is abnormal... just stay home and enjoy your swim... im sure the coast guard will come rescue you off your roof... don't take this for granted or brush this off as typical washington weather or PNW weather wherever you are... we will see record flooding the likes of which we have not seen in 100 years

mean temp forecast map:

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I have lived in Northwestern Montana my whole life. This is not uncommon. Many times there are strong low pressure systems that get stuck in the Gulf of Alaska and just churn out moisture. It usually draws warmer air from the pacific, thus creating what we call the Pineapple Express. It will do this for up to 2 weeks before the low pressure either dips south or moves into Canada. When it gets fun for us here in Montana is when an artic cold front dips south from Alberta and mixed with the moisture! SNOW!

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While weather like this has happened historically, it is abnormal (as in not normal) for us to have such a strong storm in November.

Of course as I write this, A RIVER IS RUNNING THROUGH MY FARM!!! Any person who feels like sending a prayer my way, to keep my crops from washing away, I would appreciate. I'd really like to be picking strawberries and raspberries next summer.

yah well now you have a blizzard warning in NE montana. cheers! [link to www.weather.gov]

for the millionth time, this is NOT a pineapple express.

it is an ATMOSPHERIC RIVER phenomenon. please. i have done a lot of background on this, all the info is in the thread.

For all who say it's "normal" and just another storm.... That's what a lot of people said about sandy here in new York. Fill your tanks with gas and our governor warned these 100 year storms are now the new norm. On regular tv news!!

you betcha...hope you have good soil integrity! do you have any bales of straw or anything you can use to divert the flow?

Not any that are local to Oregon or Washington.

wrong.

i have provided MANY links to local stations. please don't jump into the thread without reading it and throw out biased comments without bothering to check and see all the research that has already gone into it.

[link to bcove.me]

little one minute news vid from article luisport linked to.

[link to www.oregonlive.com]

oh joy, more sewers overflowing, gladstone into the clackamas. :(

Now the USGS is spewing propaganda. There's a reason the old-timers called it a "100-year flood", not a fucking "4.5 year flood". Now we're seeing new cloud types, new weather patterns, superstorms, record earthquake activity, all kinds of unnatural "natural" phenomena.


Popular Myths about Flooding in Western Washington
[link to pubs.usgs.gov]

MYTH: A “100-year” flood only happens once every 100 years on average somewhere in western Washington.

FACT: A “100-year” flood happens about once every 4 ½ years on at least one western Washington river draining to Puget Sound.

MYTH: Flooding occurs randomly in time and location across western Washington.

FACT: Floods cluster in time and location.

MYTH: Rain-on-snow and wet soils are required to cause severe flooding.

FACT: Rainfall INTENSITY and DURATION are responsible for ALL major floods in western Washington regardless of conditions prior to the event.

This last batch of weather isn't even close to making this list. When we have another weather event that makes this list then by all means post a thread about it.



The Storm King of January 9, 1880

The Classic Sou'wester of December 10, 1906

The January 29, 1921 Olympic Blowdown

The Major Windstorm of October 21, 1934

The Classic Sou'wester of December 21, 1940

The Intense Spring Gale of April 23, 1943

The Major Sou'wester of December 4, 1945
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Everything below this I have lived through.


The Double Windstorms of October 26-27, 1950

The Major Windstorm of December 4, 1951

The Classic Sou'wester of April 14, 1957

The Intense Cyclone of November 3, 1958

The SW OR Windstorm of February 24, 1961

The Mid-Spring Gale of April 27, 1962

The Columbus Day "Big Blow" of 1962

The Spring Gale of March 27, 1963: Storm King I

The February 5, 1965 Gale: Storm King II

The Strong October 2, 1967 Gale: Storm King III

The Big Sou'wester of March 26, 1971

The Sudden Windstorm of March 1, 1974

The Intense Cyclone of November 9-10, 1975

The December 15, 1977 Puget Sound Cyclone

The Kitsap Blowdown of February 13, 1979

The Double Windstorms of November 13-15, 1981

The Gale of December 21, 1982

The Thanksgiving Day Storm of 1983

The Surprise Gale of March 16, 1984

The Storm Train of January 1986

A Stormy Trio: January 6-9, 1990

The Northerly Gale of December 1990

The Inauguration Day Storm of 1993

The November 15, 1994 South Valley Windstorm

The Major Windstorm of December 12, 1995

The Windstorm of February 6, 1999

The Major Windstorm of March 2-3, 1999

The Sou'wester of Janaury 15-16, 2000

The NW OR Squall Line of December 13, 2001

The February 7, 2002 South Valley Surprise

The Storms of December 14-16, 2002

The December 16, 2002 South Valley Storm

The December 27, 2002 Minor Windstorm

The January 1, 2004 Cyclone: Snowstorm

The January 29-30, 2004 Minor Windstorm

The November 5, 2005 SW Washington Gale

The Christmas Day Gale of 2005

The New Year's Windstorm of 2006

The February 4, 2006 Windstorm

The Major Windstorm of December 14-15, 2006

Early Autumn Bluster: October 18, 2007

The Great Coastal Gale of December 1-3, 2007


[link to www.climate.washington.edu]



Now all of those were notable waether events.

Perhaps this is just the beginning of this system.

Here's a picture of what the flood brought me last year, which is the worst flood of my lifetime. The property floods every year, but usually just one end which we mostly leave to nature.

Straw bales won't stop this.

Well wishes for all our PNWer's, from someone who just went thru Sandy.

Heh, always pay attention to what "they" call things:

ARK-storm, hmmmm

sending prayers to all the folks south. It is bitterly cold here in Alaska. If this front dips down to you all, you will have a ton of snow - yikes. Just finished the book Mother of Storms and I will now pray in ernest. The water bearer has arrived...peace

Tree falls on hunter during storm near Nehalem
kgw.com ‎- 18 hours ago
A tree fell on an elk hunter during severe storm conditions near Nehalem ... Emergency responders found his body in a tent along God's Valley ...
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Northern Portland metro area here...

Had heavy rain for the past two days. Wind was high at times but I've seen worse. No power out or downed trees.

Now that the front has passed, here come the individual cumulus clouds in the cold air mass. This morning one cell passed through with east coat type rain. Right now, the sun is out right now with a light breeze. About 50 degrees.

Overall, not bad here.

i've read every link i've posted, and watched all the videos. understanding the dynamic requires a tiny bit of attention.

YES, they are saying it is one of a series of these storms we can be expecting.

ALSO, great list, thanks so much for sharing it! you've certainly seem some skies, i wager! :) i'm going to save that and look them up.

lower sw mt. tabor here....weather got blustery, did you notice the layer right above the clouds pacing northeast not moving at all? didn't look like chemclouds, either. but those layers have been doing that for months, can't figure it out, very steady pattern. other people mentioning it too.

t-storms possible late afternoon.

Get gas cans!

Around here you could buy gas, you could even buy a gasoline generator, but you could not buy gas cans, for about a week after Sandy.

Best of luck ... ... Sandy was not too bad for most of us because there was very little rain, less than an inch. The only flooding occurred along the coast. It sounds like this new storm is going to flood large areas.

For those who are young, storms really show the forces of nature. They are magnificent, beautiful and terrible. These forces are much larger than you, or anyone, can withstand. If you are told to evacuate, do it.

i hope you have help up there! and waders. be safe!!!

...this is reminding me of the book 'sometimes a great notion.'

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

great rainy day PNW reading...

Good movie too!

that book is a SERIOUS downer, but it's SO good! another fave is watership down...there's some doom!

oh wow big ringing in the ears all of a sudden. anyone else getting a big pressure change? -portland