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ARKstorm Hitting PNW.....now...More To Come

 
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wrong.

i have provided MANY links to local stations. please don't jump into the thread without reading it and throw out biased comments without bothering to check and see all the research that has already gone into it.
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This last batch of weather isn't even close to making this list. When we have another weather event that makes this list then by all means post a thread about it.


Now all of those were notable waether events.
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Perhaps this is just the beginning of this system.

s226
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i've read every link i've posted, and watched all the videos. understanding the dynamic requires a tiny bit of attention.

YES, they are saying it is one of a series of these storms we can be expecting.

ALSO, great list, thanks so much for sharing it! you've certainly seem some skies, i wager! :) i'm going to save that and look them up.
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Well I'll be out elk hunting in it tommorrow as this weather is excellent for bow hunting even at my age. The rainer the better.And I pay attention to the weather as I have worked and played out in it all my life. The Columbus day storm was the worst I have ever seen, one of my friends had both his parents killed when a tree fell on their car that day.
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Storms Continue to Impact Pacific Northwest

A series of strong storm is continuing to bring unsettled weather across the Pacific Northwest, with heavy rain, mountain snow & strong winds throughout the region, from central California to Washington state. The Precipitation should come to an end across the region by early Thursday. Meanwhile, much of the rest of the country should enjoy relatively quiet weather through the middle of the week.
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SHORT RANGE FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD
312 PM EST TUE NOV 20 2012

VALID 00Z WED NOV 21 2012 - 00Z FRI NOV 23 2012

...SOAKING RAINS...MOUNTAIN SNOWS...AND GUSTY WINDS WILL CONTINUE
FOR ANOTHER DAY ACROSS THE NORTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE COUNTRY...

...MUCH ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE CENTRAL U.S. WILL
CONTINUE TOMORROW BEFORE RETURNING TO NORMAL BY WEEKS END...

...EASTERN THIRD OF THE NATION DRY AND PLEASANT FOR THE HOLIDAY...


UNSETTLED WEATHER WILL CONTINUE IN THE WESTERN U.S. AS A COLD
FRONT OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST PUSHES INTO THE INTERMOUNTAIN
WEST DURING THE SHORT RANGE PERIOD. STRONG AND GUSTY WINDS ALONG
WITH WIDESPREAD SHOWER ACTIVITY IS EXPECTED ACROSS THE
NORTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE COUNTRY ON TUESDAY EVENING INTO
WEDNESDAY. THE LAST OF A SERIES OF SHORTWAVES ROTATING AROUND AN
UPPER LEVEL LOW WILL PUSH INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST TOMORROW
AFTERNOON WITH HEAVY PRECIPITATION. MUCH OF THE PRECIPITATION WITH
THIS EVENT WILL START OFF AS RAIN...BUT FALLING TEMPERATURES
BEHIND THE FRONT WILL LEAD TO LOWERING SNOW LEVELS ALONG THE
CASCADES AND NORTHERN ROCKIES. UPPER LEVEL RIDGE BUILDING OVER THE
NORTHEAST PACIFIC/GULF OF ALASKA ON WEDNESDAY SHOULD QUICKLY SHUT
OFF THE MOISTURE SUPPLY...ENDING MUCH OF THE PRECIPITATION ACROSS
THE REGION BY EARLY THURSDAY.
[link to www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov]
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HOWEVER, that is only our thanksgiving break, because there is another storm behind this one coming in on friday, this first storm will be making the blizzard in the great lakes at the same time.
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meteorologists and park rangers disagree.
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Not any that are local to Oregon or Washington.
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wrong.

i have provided MANY links to local stations. please don't jump into the thread without reading it and throw out biased comments without bothering to check and see all the research that has already gone into it.
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This last batch of weather isn't even close to making this list. When we have another weather event that makes this list then by all means post a thread about it.



The Storm King of January 9, 1880

The Classic Sou'wester of December 10, 1906

The January 29, 1921 Olympic Blowdown

The Major Windstorm of October 21, 1934

The Classic Sou'wester of December 21, 1940

The Intense Spring Gale of April 23, 1943

The Major Sou'wester of December 4, 1945
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Everything below this I have lived through.


The Double Windstorms of October 26-27, 1950

The Major Windstorm of December 4, 1951

The Classic Sou'wester of April 14, 1957

The Intense Cyclone of November 3, 1958

The SW OR Windstorm of February 24, 1961

The Mid-Spring Gale of April 27, 1962

The Columbus Day "Big Blow" of 1962

The Spring Gale of March 27, 1963: Storm King I

The February 5, 1965 Gale: Storm King II

The Strong October 2, 1967 Gale: Storm King III

The Big Sou'wester of March 26, 1971

The Sudden Windstorm of March 1, 1974

The Intense Cyclone of November 9-10, 1975

The December 15, 1977 Puget Sound Cyclone

The Kitsap Blowdown of February 13, 1979

The Double Windstorms of November 13-15, 1981

The Gale of December 21, 1982

The Thanksgiving Day Storm of 1983

The Surprise Gale of March 16, 1984

The Storm Train of January 1986

A Stormy Trio: January 6-9, 1990

The Northerly Gale of December 1990

The Inauguration Day Storm of 1993

The November 15, 1994 South Valley Windstorm

The Major Windstorm of December 12, 1995

The Windstorm of February 6, 1999

The Major Windstorm of March 2-3, 1999

The Sou'wester of Janaury 15-16, 2000

The NW OR Squall Line of December 13, 2001

The February 7, 2002 South Valley Surprise

The Storms of December 14-16, 2002

The December 16, 2002 South Valley Storm

The December 27, 2002 Minor Windstorm

The January 1, 2004 Cyclone: Snowstorm

The January 29-30, 2004 Minor Windstorm

The November 5, 2005 SW Washington Gale

The Christmas Day Gale of 2005

The New Year's Windstorm of 2006

The February 4, 2006 Windstorm

The Major Windstorm of December 14-15, 2006

Early Autumn Bluster: October 18, 2007

The Great Coastal Gale of December 1-3, 2007


[link to www.climate.washington.edu]



Now all of those were notable waether events.
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I was a kid living in Portland when the Columbus Day Storm hit with hurricane force winds. No electricity for about a week... which wasn't very long when you consider all the trees and lines it downed. Lots and lots of damage.
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Well I'll be out elk hunting in it tommorrow as this weather is excellent for bow hunting even at my age. The rainer the better.And I pay attention to the weather as I have worked and played out in it all my life. The Columbus day storm was the worst I have ever seen, one of my friends had both his parents killed when a tree fell on their car that day.
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ok well HEADS UP...the fatality was an elk hunter, and a tree crashed onto his tent, killing him instantly. one video i watched last night was showing a scene from this, the rangers were cleaning up and talking to news crews about how the trees are SNAPPING off in HUGE amounts...they said they had never, in decades of working outdoors, seen that many trees just snapping and crashing all at once before.

so the trees are a big consideration. be safe!
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...not a scene from the fatality, i meant an area where a large tree came down over the highway. different story.

there was also the cop car getting smashed and exploding, as well as the firetruck, it's been dangerous out there for clean up teams.
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love it! i know i have at least 3 threads in there since a couple years back :P
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Well I'll be out elk hunting in it tommorrow as this weather is excellent for bow hunting even at my age. The rainer the better.And I pay attention to the weather as I have worked and played out in it all my life. The Columbus day storm was the worst I have ever seen, one of my friends had both his parents killed when a tree fell on their car that day.
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ok well HEADS UP...the fatality was an elk hunter, and a tree crashed onto his tent, killing him instantly. one video i watched last night was showing a scene from this, the rangers were cleaning up and talking to news crews about how the trees are SNAPPING off in HUGE amounts...they said they had never, in decades of working outdoors, seen that many trees just snapping and crashing all at once before.

so the trees are a big consideration. be safe!
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Well I won't be sleeping in high winds around trees. Poor choices often lead to tragic results. And anybody with a brain who goes into the woods during the late season brings a chainsaw to cut downed trees out of the way to get back out. Had to cut my way out on more than one occasion.
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Well I'll be out elk hunting in it tommorrow as this weather is excellent for bow hunting even at my age. The rainer the better.And I pay attention to the weather as I have worked and played out in it all my life. The Columbus day storm was the worst I have ever seen, one of my friends had both his parents killed when a tree fell on their car that day.
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ok well HEADS UP...the fatality was an elk hunter, and a tree crashed onto his tent, killing him instantly. one video i watched last night was showing a scene from this, the rangers were cleaning up and talking to news crews about how the trees are SNAPPING off in HUGE amounts...they said they had never, in decades of working outdoors, seen that many trees just snapping and crashing all at once before.

so the trees are a big consideration. be safe!
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Well I won't be sleeping in high winds around trees. Poor choices often lead to tragic results. And anybody with a brain who goes into the woods during the late season brings a chainsaw to cut downed trees out of the way to get back out. Had to cut my way out on more than one occasion.
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trees are a lot more brittle and dry, many have been impacted by disease and infestations, we have been losing huge tracts of forest to these things for decades, throw the aluminium and bullshit from chemtrails on top of that, aluminium is highly flammable FYI, already loosened and saturated soil as well as post-storm damaged and weakened roads, trees, and hillsides.

be safe. i'm sure you're quite competent. bring rope hehehe!
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This is normal. Happens all the time in Alaska.
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This is normal. Happens all the time in Alaska.
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cheers!
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[link to fox12weather.wordpress.com]

fox12 breaks it down with some charts.

pattern a) west coast ridge
pattern b) split flow/cutoff low
pattern c) pineapple exress
pattern d) zonal/westerly flow
pattern e) gulf of alaska flow

and the fun one,

pattern f) arctic invasion.
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POW, good stuff...

[link to www.cascadeaccess.com]

bookmarking that one.
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AccuWeather.com‏@breakingweather

RT @accu_jesse: Winds >100 mph & hvy rain cause mudslide Patrol Car, set it on fire. PICS & STATS: [link to www.accuweather.com]
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This is normal. Happens all the time in Alaska.
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Pssst... we're not talking about Alaska.
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i hope you have help up there! and waders. be safe!!!

...this is reminding me of the book 'sometimes a great notion.'

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great rainy day PNW reading...hf
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Good movie too!
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that book is a SERIOUS downer, but it's SO good! another fave is watership down...there's some doom!

oh wow big ringing in the ears all of a sudden. anyone else getting a big pressure change? -portland
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Yep, feels like my ears closed up.
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hey guys, i think the t-storms are moving into pdx...? got dark, rain pouring down now, and flickering comp etc.

here we go:
Portland | 54 °F | Heavy Small Hail Rain
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AccuWeather.com‏@breakingweather

RT @accu_jesse: Winds >100 mph & hvy rain cause mudslide Patrol Car, set it on fire. PICS & STATS: [link to www.accuweather.com]
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thanks...linked to this earlier but i did want to copy:

The strongest in a train of Pacific storms unleashed heavy rain, mountain snow and damaging winds in many coastal areas of Washington and Oregon. The Northwest coastline experienced the brunt of the powerful and damaging winds.
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Long thunderclap in Redmond just now
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this thread is making a mountain out of a molehill...
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Weather Underground‏@wunderground

"Northwest Storm Update for Tuesday, November 20th" [link to wxug.us]

19 novWeather Underground‏@wunderground

"Intense wind and rainstorm slams Washington and Oregon" [link to wxug.us]
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Complex Emergency in USA on Tuesday, 20 November, 2012 at 12:03 (12:03 PM) UTC.

Description
Heavy rains and strong winds Monday turned streets into waterways and toppled trees onto power lines, leaving vehicles partially submerged and disrupting power for more than 1,500 customers locally. Meteorologists say the worst of the storm is behind us. Although rain still is predicted for today and Wednesday, it is expected to be lighter and scattered, according to the National Weather Service. Portland General Electric experienced outages throughout the day, reaching as high as 1,500 during the late afternoon hours and peak of the storm. By 5:45 p.m., crews repaired a feeder line that restored power to more than 1,000 customers, mostly in southeast Salem. By late Monday, the power company reported 264 outages in Marion County. Mike Gotterba, city of Salem spokesman, reported that 18 crews scrambled to respond to calls, clearing storm drains to minimize high water levels and putting up barriers to help prevent people from driving and walking in especially high water areas.

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Power Outage in USA on Tuesday, 20 November, 2012 at 12:04 (12:04 PM) UTC.

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Bob Gravely, a spokesman for Pacific Power, said mid-evening 3,324 customers are still without power, the bulk in Astoria, 500 in Seaside and 300 in Warrenton. That is down from a recent estimate of 6,400, including 4,500 in Astoria. Before 6 p.m., approximately 14,620 customers were without power. “I think if people are still without power now, we would advise people to be prepared for the possibility it will go through the night,” said Gravely, adding that some places with power outages are very difficult to get to. He said that in addition to its crews in Clatsop County, Pacific Power brought in 40 more people from Portland, Bend and Hood River to help with outages and contracted with private entities to add more help in bringing back the power.

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this thread is making a mountain out of a molehill...
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It's a big deal to those of us facing flooding and mudslides, asswipe.
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I've had friends, family, or just about anybody ask me about my position on Human Caused Global Warming (referred to as global warming in the rest of this page) the last few years. So here it is.

First, my education: I have a B.S. in Atmospheric Sciences from the University of Washington. 1991. I forecast for two years in the private sector and now have worked in Portland television for about 14 years. Let me point out that I am NOT a climate expert and publish no climate studies. But as a meteorologist I deal closely with climate-related issues regularly.

I know meteorologists have a wide range of positions on the issue. At one end, let's say a "10", you have those who believe the end of the world is just about upon us and global warming will be the undoing of humanity. At the other end, let's say a "1", those that believe it's all a big conspiracy and there is no such thing as global warming (human-caused or not). You'd have to put me at about a 6 or 7. I find it hard to believe that the hundreds (or thousands) of climate scientists that make up the IPCC, National Academies of Sciences or other working groups are all wrong when I look at the information available out there. If anything the case for global warming has become stronger in the last 5-10 years, not weaker. Is it a "for sure" thing? Nope, but neither is evolution, although we generally accept that theory (in one form or another).

i like this meteorologist!
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My Global Warming Thoughts

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Strong storm system to bring turbulent winter weather to Pacific Northwest

Posted on November 19, 2012


November 19, 2012 – PORTLAND – Residents and visitors of the Pacific Northwest hoping to have some dry weather for the days leading up to the Thanksgiving holiday will be out of luck. In fact, the Northwest will be the stormiest part of the nation through Thanksgiving. A Pacific storm train of weather disturbances will continue to barrel through the Northwest in quick succession bringing bouts of rain, snow, and wind. At this time it appears that no prolonged period of dry weather is on the horizon. The series of storm systems will likely continue well past Thanksgiving and into the following weekend. These storms will bring rain, mountain snow and damaging coastal winds. According to AccuWeather’s Western Weather Expert Ken Clark, “Between the major storms, the weather is not likely to be dry, especially from the Cascades on west. Moist, onshore winds will cause showers between these major storms at just about any time. The heaviest snow will be above pass level, but there will be periods of snow with slick travel through the passes in the periods of colder air over the next week. Above 4,500 feet, several feet of snow is likely to fall over the next week,” Clark added. As for the wind aspect of these storms, damaging winds past 60 mph can occur right along the coast. Isolated peak wind gusts up to 60 mph can occur over the interior. Early this morning, winds gusted to 98 mph at Yaquina Head, Ore. The storm train will not stop through much of this week, including a rainy, snowy, and windy Thanksgiving for the region. It should be noted that an active wet pattern like this one is not uncommon for the middle to end of November across the Pacific Northwest. –Accuweather [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]
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The sky just went from partly cloudy with white clouds to dark gray fully overcast in about 5 minutes time.
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well at least we are hearing that our air quality is kicking butt!

[link to www.deq.state.or.us]

The Air Quality Index (AQI) is a color-coded tool which shows air pollution levels. Green is good, yellow is moderate, orange is unhealthy for sensitive groups, and red is unhealthy for all groups. DEQ issues Air Pollution Advisories when we forecast air pollution levels above the yellow, or moderate, AQI category and remain there for more than 72 hours.

The AQI for particulate matter (both PM2.5 and PM10) is based on the average of the previous 24 hours of pollution levels. Particle pollution is often highest during the coldest times of the day, typically in the evening and early morning.

Air Quality Index calculated for:
Tuesday, November 20, 2012

wonder what the 'radiation reports' say....

oh dear.

wtf...? [link to www.eldoradocountyweather.com]

numbers in PNW area and down west coast read:

between 957 and 907. HIGH. gamma rays?
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gamma rays.

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