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Is Old Testament God EVIL demigod?

 
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He is the Father of Jesus Christ.iamwith
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No, he is not. Jesus says he is a liar and a fake.
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My Father, whom you (Jews) claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and keep his word. John 8:55

John 4:22,23 You (non-Jews) worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

The most important one, answered Jesus, is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Mark 12:29, Deuteronomy 6:4
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For some reason I have never felt that the God in Old Testament would be good force. His energy and teachings - and many followers - feel like they would be evil or at least very selfish beings. Like people of Israel for example.

Anyone else get the same vibes?
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The Real story of mankind upon this planet is upward of 125 Thouand years long. It's has 5 Epochs and far more Epics.

The part of the bible known of as the Old Testament is around 8 thousand years old.

8 of 125 thousand.

Many things were mashed together and even tweeked, spin doctored, rewritten and some made up to compile older documents into what is falsely assumed by the leading edge of the retarded spiritual nature of mankind as the OT of the bible.
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OT God is wrathful and unforgiving, the NT God is forgiving and understanding. Their morals and ideas towards people and punishment etc are completely opposite.
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OT God is wrathful and unforgiving, the NT God is forgiving and understanding. Their morals and ideas towards people and punishment etc are completely opposite.
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... the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. John 1
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OT God is wrathful and unforgiving, the NT God is forgiving and understanding. Their morals and ideas towards people and punishment etc are completely opposite.
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None of the Old Law was repealed in the New Testament. The sadistic SOB of the Old Testament is still the same SOB in the New Testament.
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He is the Father of Jesus Christ.iamwith
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But what does that make Jesus then? ... Son of evil demigod?


No, that I don't think so. Jesus was son of God as much as we all are. But what made him special was that he remembered his divine origins.

But the God worshipped in OT is not the God of love. The Source, the real God is above all rules and there is no such thing as sin or hell. Those are just man made fear based systems to make us obey and stay in leash.

I know since the real God of love has spoken to me. And He said:
God is love and love is God.
Trust your heart, that is my temple - not any building made of stone - and fear not,
There is no end.
There is only love for those ready to accept their divine origins.
Namaste and Amen.
 Quoting: Canis Majoris

the community of the cosmic heart consciousness is growing.
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New-Age-beliefs won´t help you. Rather study the Bible instead.

God is bigger than anything, Love inclusive.
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I do agree that the Source is bigger than anything. Or to be precise, He is in everything.

BUT the old testament God is not the one I am speaking of. You would know it if you would see the big picture. Just don't be blinded by texts written by mortal men.

And btw, I don't say that the OT God would not grant you good feeling when you worship Him. I like to think that it's like symbiosis - He gets power from your fear and worship and you get something(?) in reward.

It's just - as I have said many times - that I feel that demiurge is liar of somekind.

But don't worry, true highest God knows this and approves it - or to be precise, He does not care as He knows that we humans will come back to Him no matter what we do or believe in.

Love and light!
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He is the Father of Jesus Christ.iamwith
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No, he is not. Jesus says he is a liar and a fake.
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My Father, whom you (Jews) claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and keep his word. John 8:55

John 4:22,23 You (non-Jews) worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

The most important one, answered Jesus, is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Mark 12:29, Deuteronomy 6:4
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John 8.31 - 8.59


42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word.

44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 But, because I tell the truth, you do not believe me.


46 Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? 47 He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God."
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By the way, the old testament is way older in actual story telling than it seems. It simply wasn't written down until historical times in which it was applied. The passed down fairy tales are more like 10-20k years old.

To think of a similar set of events, imagine the human race was dropped down to 1000 people in one location, and maybe 500 in another in the whole world. The book they each have left is the lord of the rings trilogy. In 5000 years after this time, what would the religion be? Middle earth as heaven. It's a fact. If you believe in the false stories of the Bible, you are giving in to the system of control built 1700 years ago as a way to condense and control. How so you like knowing you are a slave to an ancient emperor?
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Yesterday - after posting to this topic - I got huge bucket of shit in my personal fan. I think it's going to take weeks, if not months, to clean up that shit.

And so it came to my mind: what if the Source - Who is unconconditional love - does not care and has outsourced spiritual rule of Earth to OT God(s). So we better to bow those forces or suffer?

Because suffering is what I got after talking about this issue.
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For some reason I have never felt that the God in Old Testament would be good force. His energy and teachings - and many followers - feel like they would be evil or at least very selfish beings. Like people of Israel for example.

Anyone else get the same vibes?
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Hey brother you are missing a GIANT missing piece to this puzzle check this video. god was soooo full of love that he basicly let the whole world but just a handfull of good hearted people turn a giant ball of sin hate death bloodlust and destruction before he finally had to do something about it

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I think Yahweh is evil, most people aren't psychically aware of what these demi-gods do. Have you read the DMT trips where the tripper sees entities using certain tubes to drain them of energy, that's exactly what they do they harvest them lol but most people aren't aware of it. That's why all their worship seems to feed the ego of Yahweh or Jesus it's not real love. I do believe the true god loves unconditionally, but I think you would have to open your mind to that state of mind because I think God mirrors our minds. That's why the bible we are in the image of God living a reflection, and he says I am that I am, so who is "I AM"? Jesus is just like Buddha or any other awakened one, since they are a clear reflection of god from the inside they are a real son of God.

The epic of gilgamesh, vedic texts, and the rest of tablets of sumeria came before the bible, EA being the father of humanity Enki or Lucifer some say his brother was Yahweh I don't know to be honest but pray to Lucifer and pray to Yahweh lol and you'll see Yahweh doesn't give a shit about you.
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Noah's sons founded Sumeria in the Land of Kish. Genesis is oldest.

The God of the OT is Jesus.
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Lol ok keep saying that to yourself nikku

The kingdom of God is within
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He is the Father of Jesus Christ.iamwith
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But what does that make Jesus then? ... Son of evil demigod?


No, that I don't think so. Jesus was son of God as much as we all are. But what made him special was that he remembered his divine origins.

But the God worshipped in OT is not the God of love. The Source, the real God is above all rules and there is no such thing as sin or hell. Those are just man made fear based systems to make us obey and stay in leash.

I know since the real God of love has spoken to me. And He said:
God is love and love is God.
Trust your heart, that is my temple - not any building made of stone - and fear not,
There is no end.
There is only love for those ready to accept their divine origins.
Namaste and Amen.
 Quoting: Canis Majoris

the community of the cosmic heart consciousness is growing.
 Quoting: xxx 1391487


New-Age-beliefs won´t help you. Rather study the Bible instead.

God is bigger than anything, Love inclusive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975

ain't no new ager.
more like neanderthaler.
views long predating yhwh's arrival on this planet.
that thing isn't the omnipotent it wants you to believe.

in light of that understanding, all verse and chapter,
stories, mythos, are fabrication, . .
at best, historical traditions manipulated to fit the
designs of a beast of unknown origin and intention.

wipe the slate of your mind clean.
eliminate the ego.
release the pursuit of power/control.
stand naked to the cosmos.
and you will know/feel that which is, . .
all lies shall disappear.
all mystery shall clarify.
joy is all there is.
so, fear not.
love shall prevail.

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