MOODY'S DOWNGRADES FRANCE TO Aa1 !!! | |
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Lady Jane Smith![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 823577 11/19/2012 05:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will bode well for the markets tomorrow **sarcasm** Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided. "Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." -- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564. |
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| Luisport (OP) User ID: 28067811 11/19/2012 05:16 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | zerohedge‏@zerohedge One Fewer In The AAA Club: Moody's Downgrades FrAAnce From AAA To Aa1 [link to www.zerohedge.com] … 5 minzerohedge‏@zerohedge boom: MOODY'S DOWNGRADES FRANCE'S GOVT BOND RATING TO Aa1 FROM Aaa |
| ReVbo™ TANSTAAFL User ID: 16860056 11/19/2012 05:18 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And on a Monday afternoon, too. Whatever happened to Friday (or, at least, Wednesday to prevent Thanksgiving long weekend doom) afternoon for this kind of announcement? Incidentally, shocking the frogs have been able to hold out this long. Rev. 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away. "The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt." -Philpot Curran |
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| Luisport (OP) User ID: 28067811 11/19/2012 05:21 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Moody's decision to downgrade France's rating and maintain the negative outlook reflects the following key interrelated factors: 1.) France's long-term economic growth outlook is negatively affected by multiple structural challenges, including its gradual, sustained loss of competitiveness and the long-standing rigidities of its labour, goods and service markets. 2.) France's fiscal outlook is uncertain as a result of its deteriorating economic prospects, both in the short term due to subdued domestic and external demand, and in the longer term due to the structural rigidities noted above. 3.) The predictability of France's resilience to future euro area shocks is diminishing in view of the rising risks to economic growth, fiscal performance and cost of funding. France's exposure to peripheral Europe through its trade linkages and its banking system is disproportionately large, and its contingent obligations to support other euro area members have been increasing. Moreover, unlike other non-euro area sovereigns that carry similarly high ratings, France does not have access to a national central bank for the financing of its debt in the event of a market disruption. At the same time, Moody's explains that France remains extremely highly rated, at Aa1, because of the country's significant credit strengths, which include (i) a large and diversified economy which underpins France's economic resiliency, and (ii) a strong commitment to structural reforms and fiscal consolidation, as reflected in recent governmental announcements, which may, over the medium term, mitigate some of the structural rigidities and improve France's debt dynamics. In a related rating action, Moody's has also downgraded the ratings of Société de Financement de l'Economie Française (SFEF) and Société de Prise de Participation de l'État (SPPE) to Aa1 from Aaa. Furthermore, Moody's has affirmed the Prime-1 rating of SPPE's euro-denominated commercial paper programme. The outlooks on the ratings of the two entities remain negative. The senior debt instruments issued by the two entities are backed by unconditional and irrevocable guarantees from the French government. Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com] |
| Luisport (OP) User ID: 28067811 11/19/2012 05:22 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | zerohedge‏@zerohedge Egan-Jones has France at BBB+, outlook negative Last Edited by Luisport on 11/19/2012 05:22 PM |
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Lady Jane Smith![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 1310687 11/19/2012 05:31 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And on a Monday afternoon, too. Whatever happened to Friday (or, at least, Wednesday to prevent Thanksgiving long weekend doom) afternoon for this kind of announcement? Incidentally, shocking the frogs have been able to hold out this long. Will be fascinating to see what metals do in overnight trading. I wonder if Germany will be in Moody's cross hairs next? Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided. "Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." -- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4443279 11/19/2012 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have to ask, do the ratings really matter? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13838165 I mean change a A to a A- then to a B, and what outcomes will come of it? Imagine investors and creditors are a herd of deer. Credit ratings are a carnivore. When the predator gets close enough, the herd goes into an instinctual panic and flees the scene like the wind. Which then leads to difficulties for France to borrow money and increased interest rates. At this point there's nothing to worry about. Their rating is still good. |
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