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MOODY'S DOWNGRADES FRANCE TO Aa1 !!!

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/19/2012 06:08 PM
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We ain't gonna drown alone. We be sure to hold tight on to those German bootstraps and pull'em down the sink hole with us. The last echo sound won't be 'non non' it will be 'nein nein'.
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Wake me when America finally gets downgraded... But the rating agencies won't touch it.
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When they they thaw you out?

America has been downgraded TWICE over the last 4 years.
First time ever in its history.

ohappy
Tell me what this tastes like...
Anonymous Coward
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11/19/2012 06:14 PM
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Ooh getting ever closer to the US' FFF-
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11/19/2012 06:30 PM

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Citi Has First Reaction To Moody's Downgrade: Not Surprising But More EURUSD Downside [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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11/19/2012 06:37 PM
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lol

gotta love shit like this

countries being 'downgraded' by companies

what a fuck up this world has turned into
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28076070


you got it thats total bullshit, we should dont even give a shit about whats say moody, bunch of corrupted banksters who wants to teach lessons to the people ?!
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11/19/2012 06:43 PM
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This will bode well for the markets tomorrow

**sarcasm**
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


And on a Monday afternoon, too. Whatever happened to Friday (or, at least, Wednesday to prevent Thanksgiving long weekend doom) afternoon for this kind of announcement?

Incidentally, shocking the frogs have been able to hold out this long.
 Quoting: ReVbo™


Will be fascinating to see what metals do in overnight trading.

I wonder if Germany will be in Moody's cross hairs next?
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Nothing will happen with metals until early next year. The central banks are buying every bit of Physical that they can find for when the BIS changes it's tier rules to let Gold become a tier 1 asset as it should have been all along.
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11/19/2012 07:55 PM
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yeah we are downgraded and so what ?

i can ensure you people our cheeses are still stinking, and we still have good wine and baguettes


who cares...maybe paper eaters mwahahahahahaha

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11/19/2012 07:58 PM

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I noticed Moody's has never said much about their three month review of the Spain that ended back in September...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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11/19/2012 08:32 PM
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you got it thats total bullshit, we should dont even give a shit about whats say moody, bunch of corrupted banksters who wants to teach lessons to the people ?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26027784


omg, what a stoopid occutard, always blaming the players, not the game they are so dependant on.

U put 0blama BACK into power, so suck one.
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11/19/2012 08:36 PM
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Wake me when America finally gets downgraded... But the rating agencies won't touch it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28068368


Wake up! Today France, tomorrow Germany, then US again, then France again, then and then and then...
Anonymous Coward
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11/19/2012 09:52 PM
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I have to ask, do the ratings really matter?

I mean change a A to a A- then to a B, and what outcomes will come of it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13838165


Pensions and other large funds rely on "growth" calculations that depend on the stability/reliability of their investments. They come up with that stability/reliability through risk analysis, which looks at ratings.

If the ratings go down, their "value" as an investment goes down, and the future value of pensions goes down.

And when the solvency of these pensions are relying on ridiculously impossible growth rates of 5-8%, and they are unable to do that anymore since government bonds are too risky, well then you just lost your pension.
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There are other reasons of course. Governments want high ratings for their bonds so people will buy them. That's how they keep the government running; that's how they make money... THAT'S HOW THEY RUN UP THEIR ENORMOUS DEBTS.

If you have bad ratings, nobody buys your bonds, and the government can't pay its bills.
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11/19/2012 10:02 PM
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Wake me when America finally gets downgraded... But the rating agencies won't touch it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28068368


*Insert Slow poke meme here*

The US's credit rating was downgraded by S&P last year chuckle
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11/19/2012 10:35 PM
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I was wondering why silver jumped today.
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11/20/2012 06:50 AM

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Wall Street Responds To The French Downgrade [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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zerohedge‏@zerohedge

When does Moody's start with the French bank downgrades next?
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11/20/2012 07:20 AM

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French Downgrade Comes And Goes As Europe Open Fills EURUSD Gap [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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11/20/2012 07:30 AM
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wow.
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zerohedge‏@zerohedge

3 Year EFSF bond deal officially delayed after French downgrade
ArmchairObserver

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11/20/2012 02:11 PM
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I'd like to downgrade Moody's.

After Dynegy agreed to buy Enron, Moody's tried to calculate the chances that the deal would go through, that Enron would remain strong until it was completed and that the combined company would carry a strong rating, said John Diaz, managing director for Moody's power and energy group.

At first, those questions seemed to have reassuring answers, Mr. Diaz said, so Moody's kept Enron's investment-grade rating.



[link to www.nytimes.com]

Moody’s Corp. (MCO) and Standard & Poor’s lost a bid for dismissal of fraud claims in a suit by investors claiming the companies falsely assigned inflated ratings to notes sold by Morgan Stanley (MS) that were backed by subprime mortgages...Scheindlin also dismissed the investors’ fraud claims against the bank and aiding-and-abetting claims against the rating companies, ruling that it was the rating companies, not Morgan Stanley, that issued the ratings.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]

Questionable involvement in two of the biggest financial scandals in the last decade or so. Yep yep, I downgrade Moody's until they clean up their act.
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