MOODY'S DOWNGRADES FRANCE TO Aa1 !!! | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26027784 France 11/19/2012 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28076070 gotta love shit like this countries being 'downgraded' by companies what a fuck up this world has turned into you got it thats total bullshit, we should dont even give a shit about whats say moody, bunch of corrupted banksters who wants to teach lessons to the people ?! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27807407 United States 11/19/2012 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And on a Monday afternoon, too. Whatever happened to Friday (or, at least, Wednesday to prevent Thanksgiving long weekend doom) afternoon for this kind of announcement? Incidentally, shocking the frogs have been able to hold out this long. Will be fascinating to see what metals do in overnight trading. I wonder if Germany will be in Moody's cross hairs next? Nothing will happen with metals until early next year. The central banks are buying every bit of Physical that they can find for when the BIS changes it's tier rules to let Gold become a tier 1 asset as it should have been all along. |
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Saddletramp User ID: 55360 United States 11/19/2012 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I noticed Moody's has never said much about their three month review of the Spain that ended back in September... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1493398 United States 11/19/2012 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you got it thats total bullshit, we should dont even give a shit about whats say moody, bunch of corrupted banksters who wants to teach lessons to the people ?! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26027784 omg, what a stoopid occutard, always blaming the players, not the game they are so dependant on. U put 0blama BACK into power, so suck one. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24760791 Thailand 11/19/2012 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have to ask, do the ratings really matter? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13838165 I mean change a A to a A- then to a B, and what outcomes will come of it? Pensions and other large funds rely on "growth" calculations that depend on the stability/reliability of their investments. They come up with that stability/reliability through risk analysis, which looks at ratings. If the ratings go down, their "value" as an investment goes down, and the future value of pensions goes down. And when the solvency of these pensions are relying on ridiculously impossible growth rates of 5-8%, and they are unable to do that anymore since government bonds are too risky, well then you just lost your pension. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24760791 Thailand 11/19/2012 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have bad ratings, nobody buys your bonds, and the government can't pay its bills. |
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ArmchairObserver User ID: 12411641 United States 11/20/2012 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After Dynegy agreed to buy Enron, Moody's tried to calculate the chances that the deal would go through, that Enron would remain strong until it was completed and that the combined company would carry a strong rating, said John Diaz, managing director for Moody's power and energy group. At first, those questions seemed to have reassuring answers, Mr. Diaz said, so Moody's kept Enron's investment-grade rating. [link to www.nytimes.com] Moody’s Corp. (MCO) and Standard & Poor’s lost a bid for dismissal of fraud claims in a suit by investors claiming the companies falsely assigned inflated ratings to notes sold by Morgan Stanley (MS) that were backed by subprime mortgages...Scheindlin also dismissed the investors’ fraud claims against the bank and aiding-and-abetting claims against the rating companies, ruling that it was the rating companies, not Morgan Stanley, that issued the ratings. [link to www.bloomberg.com] Questionable involvement in two of the biggest financial scandals in the last decade or so. Yep yep, I downgrade Moody's until they clean up their act. AO |