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How do I become a real "bad boy" after decades of being a "nice guy"?

 
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Re: How do I become a real "bad boy" after decades of being a "nice guy"?
hah. empirically women like the "bad boy".

as a gay, ive had several beautiful women friends. they do always go for the bad boy.

the key is - to treat them like shit. be sarcastic as hell. sarcasm is an aphrodesiac to women. they get off on that shit. verbal tete-a-tete is their blow job.
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that's not true. In college my blue collar boyfriend who didn't understand that I had to get up for class at 6am used to treat me like shit all the time. one time he showed up late at night in the parking lot and screeched his car wheels until I came out of the dorm (men were not allowed in the dorm and we did have curfew), he would then verbally abuse me, accusing me of cheating on him and not calling him (mind you I went to an all girls college, so I was not cheating on him, there were no men on campus). Security would usually show up and escort him off campus. After he did this like a dozen times I said no more, I'm done. Then he waited for me one night to get home and nearly suffocated me in his car as 'we talked'. He begged and promised me he would never do it again and that it was the drugs that made him go nuts. I tried to get him help and I tried to love a bad boy, but it just didn't work. from then on, I made wiser decisions in the men I chose to date. The irony was he grew up in my home town (which was a well to do town), came from a good family, but was a total bad boy after HS (he was 4 years older than me, so when you are 19 in college, dating a 23 year old bad boy is cool.

well the entire relationship was all about him and his bad boy drug problem and how angry he was at the world, especially me. I was constantly threatened, bruised all the time after being with him and afraid of him. I've got plenty of other stories that include him being arrested after he tried to beat up my new bf a year later, but i digress...

bad boys are not all they are cracked up to be, especially the abusive ones.
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To MK Ultra,

Thanks for the thoughts. I work alone each day 7 days a week for myself. I live far from a city. I could move, and try to live a city life with or without a job(I don't need any more money), but living in a city is a difficult lifestyle, and it's uncomfortable to be around so many people. The only reason for a job would be to approach and seduce women - and I really only want one that won't leave.

I'm doing lots of personal research that's best done where I live, and I'm also working on many projects. None of these things bring me into contact with people. I'm considering taking a class, but only to meet girls. Learning is much faster online.
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Re: How do I become a real "bad boy" after decades of being a "nice guy"?
stop bathing
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This is hilarious...i actually want to just the opposite.....and so far at trying to be nice.....my hunt for women has been dry....so i expect i will go back to being an over confident egotistical,yet humble, narcissistic felon i have always been:-)
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Re: How do I become a real "bad boy" after decades of being a "nice guy"?
stop bathing
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Really?
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Re: How do I become a real "bad boy" after decades of being a "nice guy"?
women love "complicated men" they believe the can "save". they're worse than christians.
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stop bathing
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Really?
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yes. and start smoking crack. but this only works if you're really hot.
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Re: How do I become a real "bad boy" after decades of being a "nice guy"?
OP, what do you plan on doing with the old-ex-current-GF?

Is she willing to wait at home while you're out looking for her replacement?

Are you being honest with her about this?

Does she know you're as unhappy as you seem to be here?

If she's not attacted to you physically, as you said, do you not think she's looking for your replacement as well?

?
 Quoting: ? 1610510


We live thousands of miles apart. She's told me she wants me to find someone else. She has dreams of some new partner, though I think it's still a dream. She could never be trusted not to cheat, though she was always honest about it if I asked. In short, she doesn't want me as anything other than a friend. We've never lived together, though I've suggested it for 20 years. I was there to nurture her emotionally, and she nurtured me sexually and emotionally a few times a year. My heart's been bleeding for decades, and now I suppose I'll just have to find someone else. She knows I want her and that I'll be loyal if we can have something real.
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I prefer simple solutions to otherwise messy situations.

If she's technically not even an issue in your day to day life, couldn't you just be yourself and start dating other people?

Breathe a sigh of relief and resignation and be who you are. Any bad-boy facade you manage to contrive will be impossible to maintain, unatural and frankly - sad.

Imagining that you can become something you're not, to attract something you'll never quite grasp, seems a tremendous waste of time and energy, which will ultimately end in disappointment for you.

I wish you the best, but be an honest man.



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hah. empirically women like the "bad boy".

as a gay, ive had several beautiful women friends. they do always go for the bad boy.

the key is - to treat them like shit. be sarcastic as hell. sarcasm is an aphrodesiac to women. they get off on that shit. verbal tete-a-tete is their blow job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1622717


that's not true. In college my blue collar boyfriend who didn't understand that I had to get up for class at 6am used to treat me like shit all the time. one time he showed up late at night in the parking lot and screeched his car wheels until I came out of the dorm (men were not allowed in the dorm and we did have curfew), he would then verbally abuse me, accusing me of cheating on him and not calling him (mind you I went to an all girls college, so I was not cheating on him, there were no men on campus). Security would usually show up and escort him off campus. After he did this like a dozen times I said no more, I'm done. Then he waited for me one night to get home and nearly suffocated me in his car as 'we talked'. He begged and promised me he would never do it again and that it was the drugs that made him go nuts. I tried to get him help and I tried to love a bad boy, but it just didn't work. from then on, I made wiser decisions in the men I chose to date. The irony was he grew up in my home town (which was a well to do town), came from a good family, but was a total bad boy after HS (he was 4 years older than me, so when you are 19 in college, dating a 23 year old bad boy is cool.

well the entire relationship was all about him and his bad boy drug problem and how angry he was at the world, especially me. I was constantly threatened, bruised all the time after being with him and afraid of him. I've got plenty of other stories that include him being arrested after he tried to beat up my new bf a year later, but i digress...

bad boys are not all they are cracked up to be, especially the abusive ones.
 Quoting: mk ultra 5813027


The guy got you as a BF and if he was a bit kinder and gentler AFTER you were lovers, he might have kept you. The interesting thing is that his being a bad boy attracted you in the beginning, and you were quite compliant until it became insufferable.
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To MK Ultra,

Thanks for the thoughts. I work alone each day 7 days a week for myself. I live far from a city. I could move, and try to live a city life with or without a job(I don't need any more money), but living in a city is a difficult lifestyle, and it's uncomfortable to be around so many people. The only reason for a job would be to approach and seduce women - and I really only want one that won't leave.

I'm doing lots of personal research that's best done where I live, and I'm also working on many projects. None of these things bring me into contact with people. I'm considering taking a class, but only to meet girls. Learning is much faster online.
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ahhh that explains a lot. And yes, take a class, even a fitness class or something that females do a lot. Don't give up. Believe in yourself.
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OOPS - meant GF, not BF.
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Re: How do I become a real "bad boy" after decades of being a "nice guy"?
hah. empirically women like the "bad boy".

as a gay, ive had several beautiful women friends. they do always go for the bad boy.

the key is - to treat them like shit. be sarcastic as hell. sarcasm is an aphrodesiac to women. they get off on that shit. verbal tete-a-tete is their blow job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1622717


that's not true. In college my blue collar boyfriend who didn't understand that I had to get up for class at 6am used to treat me like shit all the time. one time he showed up late at night in the parking lot and screeched his car wheels until I came out of the dorm (men were not allowed in the dorm and we did have curfew), he would then verbally abuse me, accusing me of cheating on him and not calling him (mind you I went to an all girls college, so I was not cheating on him, there were no men on campus). Security would usually show up and escort him off campus. After he did this like a dozen times I said no more, I'm done. Then he waited for me one night to get home and nearly suffocated me in his car as 'we talked'. He begged and promised me he would never do it again and that it was the drugs that made him go nuts. I tried to get him help and I tried to love a bad boy, but it just didn't work. from then on, I made wiser decisions in the men I chose to date. The irony was he grew up in my home town (which was a well to do town), came from a good family, but was a total bad boy after HS (he was 4 years older than me, so when you are 19 in college, dating a 23 year old bad boy is cool.

well the entire relationship was all about him and his bad boy drug problem and how angry he was at the world, especially me. I was constantly threatened, bruised all the time after being with him and afraid of him. I've got plenty of other stories that include him being arrested after he tried to beat up my new bf a year later, but i digress...

bad boys are not all they are cracked up to be, especially the abusive ones.
 Quoting: mk ultra 5813027


The guy got you as a BF and if he was a bit kinder and gentler AFTER you were lovers, he might have kept you. The interesting thing is that his being a bad boy attracted you in the beginning, and you were quite compliant until it became insufferable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28089709


the funny thing about this guy was I met him over summer vacation through another guy friend, he was a total bad boy and I fell head over heels the first night I met him - it was like love/lust at first sight. We were inseparable that summer, everyone thought we would run off and get married. But he became very controlling and always accused me of things I didn't say or do. He even forbid me to hang out with our mutual friend, despite the fact he introduced us. He would show up at places that were way out of his way to check on me. Like showing up at a restaurant that he knew I was going to with my girl friends. It got old quick. Then my friends noticed the bruises and they said if you don't break up with him, he's going to really hurt you one of these days. I was young and naive. To this day I don't know what happened to him, probably in jail.
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good nite, OP. Update GLP sometime when you find her hf
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begin smoking meth,you will be bad and you'll soon have a police record to prove your bad..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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OP, what do you plan on doing with the old-ex-current-GF?

Is she willing to wait at home while you're out looking for her replacement?

Are you being honest with her about this?

Does she know you're as unhappy as you seem to be here?

If she's not attacted to you physically, as you said, do you not think she's looking for your replacement as well?

?
 Quoting: ? 1610510


We live thousands of miles apart. She's told me she wants me to find someone else. She has dreams of some new partner, though I think it's still a dream. She could never be trusted not to cheat, though she was always honest about it if I asked. In short, she doesn't want me as anything other than a friend. We've never lived together, though I've suggested it for 20 years. I was there to nurture her emotionally, and she nurtured me sexually and emotionally a few times a year. My heart's been bleeding for decades, and now I suppose I'll just have to find someone else. She knows I want her and that I'll be loyal if we can have something real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28089709



I prefer simple solutions to otherwise messy situations.

If she's technically not even an issue in your day to day life, couldn't you just be yourself and start dating other people?

Breathe a sigh of relief and resignation and be who you are. Any bad-boy facade you manage to contrive will be impossible to maintain, unatural and frankly - sad.

Imagining that you can become something you're not, to attract something you'll never quite grasp, seems a tremendous waste of time and energy, which will ultimately end in disappointment for you.

I wish you the best, but be an honest man.



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 Quoting: .. 1610510


Again, you use that expression "be yourself". When I'm "myself", I'm generally alone, doing fun and dangerous things alone, and studying/thinking/creating novel ideas ALONE! When I'm in a social situation, I have no game, and though I understand the bizarre rules, they don't seem to work. If I'm straightforward, I seem creepy, and if I'm pushy, I seem either angry or desperate. If I avoid those emotions, I seem distant or detached or arrogant. Where's the happy medium? So far, my success rate has been sad, and I'll use any persona that can improve that. Looking happy and "light" is very hard work. It's not natural. I can be honest with someone that's loyal to me, but until then it's just like fishing, and I was never good at fishing either. The whole "sarcastic" flirty thing is just unnatural.
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good nite, OP. Update GLP sometime when you find her hf
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Thanks!
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You're an intelligent man. You don't have to be happy or flirty or anything else that isn't natural. This sounds too easy, I know - but when you're content doing what you do, you will attract the right people.

Do what you do, alone doesn't matter.

The only way to accelerate the process is to pay for the attention, and I don't think that's the long-term type of thing you're looking for.




OP, what do you plan on doing with the old-ex-current-GF?

Is she willing to wait at home while you're out looking for her replacement?

Are you being honest with her about this?

Does she know you're as unhappy as you seem to be here?

If she's not attacted to you physically, as you said, do you not think she's looking for your replacement as well?

?
 Quoting: ? 1610510


We live thousands of miles apart. She's told me she wants me to find someone else. She has dreams of some new partner, though I think it's still a dream. She could never be trusted not to cheat, though she was always honest about it if I asked. In short, she doesn't want me as anything other than a friend. We've never lived together, though I've suggested it for 20 years. I was there to nurture her emotionally, and she nurtured me sexually and emotionally a few times a year. My heart's been bleeding for decades, and now I suppose I'll just have to find someone else. She knows I want her and that I'll be loyal if we can have something real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28089709



I prefer simple solutions to otherwise messy situations.

If she's technically not even an issue in your day to day life, couldn't you just be yourself and start dating other people?

Breathe a sigh of relief and resignation and be who you are. Any bad-boy facade you manage to contrive will be impossible to maintain, unatural and frankly - sad.

Imagining that you can become something you're not, to attract something you'll never quite grasp, seems a tremendous waste of time and energy, which will ultimately end in disappointment for you.

I wish you the best, but be an honest man.



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 Quoting: .. 1610510


Again, you use that expression "be yourself". When I'm "myself", I'm generally alone, doing fun and dangerous things alone, and studying/thinking/creating novel ideas ALONE! When I'm in a social situation, I have no game, and though I understand the bizarre rules, they don't seem to work. If I'm straightforward, I seem creepy, and if I'm pushy, I seem either angry or desperate. If I avoid those emotions, I seem distant or detached or arrogant. Where's the happy medium? So far, my success rate has been sad, and I'll use any persona that can improve that. Looking happy and "light" is very hard work. It's not natural. I can be honest with someone that's loyal to me, but until then it's just like fishing, and I was never good at fishing either. The whole "sarcastic" flirty thing is just unnatural.
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Re: How do I become a real "bad boy" after decades of being a "nice guy"?
Make yourself about 6'2", longish dark hair, about 190-200 lbs. Then, get born in the sign of Scorpio. Become a really good guitar player and get a bad bike. Doesn't hurt to have a great sense of humor and an IQ of 140. Oh, and you must also appreciate fine wines when available and keep it up for 40 minutes at a time. Trust me, that works.
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Holy crap! I am 6'2", log dark hair, was lifting weights for 21 years, got up to 230 pounds of muscle, couldn't even touch my back, currently 185, ripped and shredded because I have been banging this chick 4 days a week while on coke till 4 or five in the morning, then go to work at 6. I am a scorpio, played in rock / metal bands from 15 to 32, 147 IQ, own an oil & gas service company, on my second marriage, was a male stripper in university, etc. I take way too long to bust a nut, sometimes 2 or three hours, I don't care about wine but whiskey is another story.

Even though I was born with good looks, i grew up poor and always felt low class which made me try harder than everyone else but when those insecure feelings pop up, I repulse women, when I am confident they throw themselves at me.
20 year olds hit on me even though they know I am married and just turned 40.

The secret is to make the women feel she is beneath you, then sweep her off her feet, be super nice, then just snap into ass hole mode for no reason. The women who say they want nice guys always go home with the asshole.
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Re: How do I become a real "bad boy" after decades of being a "nice guy"?
Its official, there are nothing but fucking inbred retards on this site.
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you can't
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+1

Women have different standards for different men based on appearance, income, social status and net worth.

Personality won't get a man anywhere if he has none of those attributes working in his favor. A bad personality can jeopardize his prospects if they are working in his favor.
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you can't
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+1

Women have different standards for different men based on appearance, income, social status and net worth.

Personality won't get a man anywhere if he has none of those attributes working in his favor. A bad personality can jeopardize his prospects if they are working in his favor.
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This sounds like you are saying that women are like throwing dice - do whatever you please and you'll get a random result. It sounds like the whole game is a waste of time, energy, and happiness.
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you can't
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+1

Women have different standards for different men based on appearance, income, social status and net worth.

Personality won't get a man anywhere if he has none of those attributes working in his favor. A bad personality can jeopardize his prospects if they are working in his favor.
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Why does income even matter in the face of sufficient net worth? And how does one even measure "social status" unless one can be reduced to a one or two word description?
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Re: How do I become a real "bad boy" after decades of being a "nice guy"?
I'm sick and tired of wasting time, money, and effort trying to get pretty girls in the sack. I'd much rather just have one waiting on me, nurturing me, feeding me and fucking me.
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Well, there's your problem. Sad, really.

You're not looking for a relationship. You're looking for a disposable human fuckdoll who'd also feed and comfort you. One way to get one is to buy one and I get the feeling that you're not exactly loaded with money. Another way is to physically coerce someone, but I don't think you'd want to take that route.

It seems that some guys get that without trying
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No they don't. Either they're abusive partners who rule by fear or they're pretending. Some of these guys are totally "pussywhipped" at home, but put on a show when they're with mates.
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Re: How do I become a real "bad boy" after decades of being a "nice guy"?
If you have to ask, you will never know! And if you absolutely won't risk fistfights or jail as you said, you have no chance as those are prerequisites for being a "bad boy". Women get off on bailing their bad boys out of jail and nursing their black eyes and cuts from scrapping. What you is is what you is, and you is not a bad boy.
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I'm sick and tired of wasting time, money, and effort trying to get pretty girls in the sack. I'd much rather just have one waiting on me, nurturing me, feeding me and fucking me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28089709

Well, there's your problem. Sad, really.

You're not looking for a relationship. You're looking for a disposable human fuckdoll who'd also feed and comfort you. One way to get one is to buy one and I get the feeling that you're not exactly loaded with money. Another way is to physically coerce someone, but I don't think you'd want to take that route.

It seems that some guys get that without trying
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28089709


No they don't. Either they're abusive partners who rule by fear or they're pretending. Some of these guys are totally "pussywhipped" at home, but put on a show when they're with mates.
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women and men love to play their respective roles.

listen to Billy Joel's lyrics from the song "The Stranger"

then plan your strategy accordingly.
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Kill yourself.
That would show them..
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you can't
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10771535


+1

Women have different standards for different men based on appearance, income, social status and net worth.

Personality won't get a man anywhere if he has none of those attributes working in his favor. A bad personality can jeopardize his prospects if they are working in his favor.
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Why does income even matter in the face of sufficient net worth? And how does one even measure "social status" unless one can be reduced to a one or two word description?
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Women want to be independent but they want the man to fund their vain and selfish needs. She is looking for a tall man that has decision making power over other shorter men. That's modern women, what else can I say?
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Don't give into the dark side of the force!

Once you go out of the blue and into the black, you'll live for this and pay for that but all and all you won't get back!
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I'm sick and tired of wasting time, money, and effort trying to get pretty girls in the sack. I'd much rather just have one waiting on me, nurturing me, feeding me and fucking me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28089709

Well, there's your problem. Sad, really.

You're not looking for a relationship. You're looking for a disposable human fuckdoll who'd also feed and comfort you. One way to get one is to buy one and I get the feeling that you're not exactly loaded with money. Another way is to physically coerce someone, but I don't think you'd want to take that route.

It seems that some guys get that without trying
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28089709


No they don't. Either they're abusive partners who rule by fear or they're pretending. Some of these guys are totally "pussywhipped" at home, but put on a show when they're with mates.
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I have more than enough money to last a couple for life if they work together. NOBODY has enough to pay for crazy folks that piss away all their money on crap. I don't want someone for a one-way relationship; I'll provide an environment - house, cars, etc; and she'll take care of the traditional "women's role". It's fair for the right person, and we'd have lots of good times together.

If TSHTF, then I'd expect us both to work together to survive whatever we needed to.
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Re: How do I become a real "bad boy" after decades of being a "nice guy"?
If you go the bad boy route, you may have lots of sex, but it will all be with crazy women. It's not about "bad boy" anyway. What you need to project is confidence - never say it out loud, but let the women you date know you can take her or leave her in subtle ways. Don't let her walk all over you, but don't be a dick. Know what you want, and take it, but you don't have to be an asshole to achieve this. Trust me, we can smell desperation, and nothing makes us want a man more than knowing he can live without us. It makes us want to prove him wrong.

Now the feminazis are going to bad karma me into oblivion, but I don't care. Please, for the love of Pete, do not turn into another Jersey Shore douche bag. Thank you.
 Quoting: Meggarea

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