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Indianapolis Explosion Ruled Homicide Case!

 
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Indianapolis Explosion Ruled Homicide Case!
Authorities announced this evening they are investigating a Southside explosion as a criminal homicide.

“At this time we’re here to inform you that we’re turning this into a criminal homicide investigation,” Gary Coons, chief of the Indianapolis Department of Public Safety’s Homeland Security division, told the media.

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Authorities say they are looking for a white van in connection with the case.
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Authorities say they are looking for a white van in connection with the case.
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White, 2000 Chevrolet van with 'Urban Moving Systems' sign on back.






Sounds about right.
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Shep just talked about it on Fox-- WTF!! A homicide! Who in the world would take peeps out so dramatically?! Had to be one hell of a grudge...
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I knew it had to be intentional all along.

A new article also says witnesses reported a that a white truck parked in front of the house forever was moved ON THE SAME DAY as the explosion.
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Wasn't the house unoccupied or for sale? I may be getting my facts wrong
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Homicide? WTF? And the sheeple will believe this explanation unfortunately. The reality is, that explosion was the result of a crashed drone attempting to land at Greenwood airfield. An armed drone I might add.
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Didn't authorities very conveniently re-locate the neighbors just after the explosion? Pretty damned fast actually.
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Homicide? WTF? And the sheeple will believe this explanation unfortunately. The reality is, that explosion was the result of a crashed drone attempting to land at Greenwood airfield. An armed drone I might add.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23766809


lol....yes the 'sheeple' are the ones who will gullibly believe any fucking sentence online, including that a 'CIA drone accidentally shot these two residential houses with a hellfire missile...says a Kremlin Report"

yes, I read those 2 articles too, which cited the same "Kremlin Report" which never existed....stop being a gullible fucking dumb shit.
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Interesting article. It focuses less on the explosion, and more on how the Shirleys/Leonard are complete scumbags.
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From my detective work scouring the internet since last week:

Boyfriend living in the home convicted of multiple felonies ... check.

Boyfriend living in the home served time in prison ... check.

Monserrate Shirley considers boyfriend "jack of all trades" and admitted he tampered with the thermostat trying to "fix their furnace problem" ... check.

Couple owed more money on the house than it was worth ... check.

Everyone living at the house managed to not be home the night of the explosion ... check.

Cat boarded for the weekend ... check.

White truck that had been permanently parked in front of house for very long time was moved hours before the explosion ... check.

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What do we think happened here?
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Homicide? WTF? And the sheeple will believe this explanation unfortunately. The reality is, that explosion was the result of a crashed drone attempting to land at Greenwood airfield. An armed drone I might add.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23766809


lol....yes the 'sheeple' are the ones who will gullibly believe any fucking sentence online, including that a 'CIA drone accidentally shot these two residential houses with a hellfire missile...says a Kremlin Report"

yes, I read those 2 articles too, which cited the same "Kremlin Report" which never existed....stop being a gullible fucking dumb shit.
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A drone did not fire on those houses, it crashed into them while on approach to Greenwood airfield. It was likely in the glid mode and just came up short of the airfield.
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Authorities say they are looking for a white van in connection with the case.
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White, 2000 Chevrolet van with 'Urban Moving Systems' sign on back.






Sounds about right.
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LOLOLOLOLOL Urban Moving systems.....good one
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Shep just talked about it on Fox-- WTF!! A homicide! Who in the world would take peeps out so dramatically?! Had to be one hell of a grudge...
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Terrorists?
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It was a meteor. This is a cover up.
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You guys are being thrown off by "homicide". It's not that the deceased couple was "murdered" as in on purpose, or that they were intentional targets, etc. It's that their deaths resulted during the commission of the crime of arson, thus their deaths are being ruled homicide. They were just chilling out at home, minding their own business when the fraudy neighbors next door decided it would be a good idea to collect insurance money on the house they couldn't sell. I don't think they intended to blow up the whole neighborhood. This is an insurance fraud gone horribly, horribly wrong.

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Authorities say they are looking for a white van in connection with the case.
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Like every Hollywood crime movie ever made.
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It was a meteor. This is a cover up.
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I am almost inclined to think the same thing.
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From my detective work scouring the internet since last week:

Boyfriend living in the home convicted of multiple felonies ... check.

Boyfriend living in the home served time in prison ... check.

Monserrate Shirley considers boyfriend "jack of all trades" and admitted he tampered with the thermostat trying to "fix their furnace problem" ... check.

Couple owed more money on the house than it was worth ... check.

Everyone living at the house managed to not be home the night of the explosion ... check.

Cat boarded for the weekend ... check.

White truck that had been permanently parked in front of house for very long time was moved hours before the explosion ... check.

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What do we think happened here?
 Quoting: Ven 28101388


What, indeed.
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Homicide? WTF? And the sheeple will believe this explanation unfortunately. The reality is, that explosion was the result of a crashed drone attempting to land at Greenwood airfield. An armed drone I might add.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23766809


lol....yes the 'sheeple' are the ones who will gullibly believe any fucking sentence online, including that a 'CIA drone accidentally shot these two residential houses with a hellfire missile...says a Kremlin Report"

yes, I read those 2 articles too, which cited the same "Kremlin Report" which never existed....stop being a gullible fucking dumb shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27954052


A drone did not fire on those houses, it crashed into them while on approach to Greenwood airfield. It was likely in the glid mode and just came up short of the airfield.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23766809


Interesting twist. Is the Greenwood airport close by? Does the runway line up with this neighborhood? Where did you come up with this scenario?
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Homicide? WTF? And the sheeple will believe this explanation unfortunately. The reality is, that explosion was the result of a crashed drone attempting to land at Greenwood airfield. An armed drone I might add.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23766809


lol....yes the 'sheeple' are the ones who will gullibly believe any fucking sentence online, including that a 'CIA drone accidentally shot these two residential houses with a hellfire missile...says a Kremlin Report"

yes, I read those 2 articles too, which cited the same "Kremlin Report" which never existed....stop being a gullible fucking dumb shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27954052


A drone did not fire on those houses, it crashed into them while on approach to Greenwood airfield. It was likely in the glid mode and just came up short of the airfield.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23766809


Interesting twist. Is the Greenwood airport close by? Does the runway line up with this neighborhood? Where did you come up with this scenario?
 Quoting: Lisa From Indiana 27999563


It's not a twist, ALL of the evidence points towards this being a crashed drone or some sort of small aircraft carrying some form of munitions. Missiles perhaps? Who knows?.. other than the DHS and ATF agents that were on scene. They KNOW. Just as I do. Doesn't matter anyway. This is already being swept under the rug.
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Hope the gas company didn't cheap out and
fail to include the rotten egg smell in the
gas.
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the Greenwood "airport" is really a big field with some lights and only little teensy planes go in and out of there. like personal size planes. the neighborhood is right over there.

here:

[link to maps.google.com (secure)]

if you zoom out a little bit you'll see the airport below and to the right a little, it's labeled
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the Greenwood "airport" is really a big field with some lights and only little teensy planes go in and out of there. like personal size planes. the neighborhood is right over there.

here:

[link to maps.google.com (secure)]

if you zoom out a little bit you'll see the airport below and to the right a little, it's labeled
 Quoting: scorpio66


While you were writing this, I went to yahoo maps and did see airport close to neighborhood. But the runway does not line up with this neighborood. The pilot who was directing this drone (from elsewhere) would have been "way off".
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I work in "forensics" one could say.


Totally missing houses...two as I understand.


Major damage to areas beyond 200 yards, broken windows, etc.



Seismic activity that records data in a university there...check the records...



Add up the datum points.
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You guys are being thrown off by "homicide". It's not that the deceased couple was "murdered" as in on purpose, or that they were intentional targets, etc. It's that their deaths resulted during the commission of the crime of arson, thus their deaths are being ruled homicide. They were just chilling out at home, minding their own business when the fraudy neighbors next door decided it would be a good idea to collect insurance money on the house they couldn't sell. I don't think they intended to blow up the whole neighborhood. This is an insurance fraud gone horribly, horribly wrong.
 Quoting: scorpio66


Wait, I'm confused. HOW exactly did the "fraudy neighbor" manage to blow up half a neighborhood?!?!?!?! What type of explosives did that much damage, and HOW do you buy that much without drawing attention?!?!?! (Remember Oklahoma City)
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Dahboo7 was onto this from the get go...



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What do we think happened here?
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The next guy will have to wipe out a whole neighborhood with a dirty bomb to get out of their mortgage....


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""It's surprising that it finally came to that. Everyone had their suspicions," Chris Sutton, who lives a street away from the blast site, said after learning about the homicide investigation. "It's kind of scary that someone might set off a gas explosion," he added. "It's really scary."

Wait, I'm confused. HOW exactly did the "fraudy neighbor" manage to blow up half a neighborhood?!?!?!?! What type of explosives did that much damage, and HOW do you buy that much without drawing attention?!?!?! (Remember Oklahoma City)
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"Officials have said they believe natural gas was involved in the explosion, which destroyed five homes and left dozens damaged, some heavily. Investigators have been focusing on appliances as they search for a cause of the explosion, which caused an estimated $4.4 million in damage"

The boyfriend had probably been watching Burn Notice
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It says husband was an "electronics expert" - what exactly is that? Does anyone know what he did for a living? Nice house must have worked for someone.
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You guys are being thrown off by "homicide". It's not that the deceased couple was "murdered" as in on purpose, or that they were intentional targets, etc. It's that their deaths resulted during the commission of the crime of arson, thus their deaths are being ruled homicide. They were just chilling out at home, minding their own business when the fraudy neighbors next door decided it would be a good idea to collect insurance money on the house they couldn't sell. I don't think they intended to blow up the whole neighborhood. This is an insurance fraud gone horribly, horribly wrong.
 Quoting: scorpio66


Wait, I'm confused. HOW exactly did the "fraudy neighbor" manage to blow up half a neighborhood?!?!?!?! What type of explosives did that much damage, and HOW do you buy that much without drawing attention?!?!?! (Remember Oklahoma City)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25676821


Well, I'm no expert but my guess is that they tampered with the gas nozzle inside the home somehow, set something to trigger it later (the thermostat they claimed they repaired?) and left. Perhaps the "trigger" was based on the furnace kicking on somehow and since it was unusually warm outside that day it didn't go off until much later than they thought it would when it got cold enough to trip it, thus allowing the house to completely fill with gas that whole time?

I really don't know, though. The evidence seems to scream that the casino neighbors "did it", but it wouldn't be the first cover up so who can really say. The lady in her interview sure came across as guilty tho. That said, I can't imagine they meant to blow up the entire neighborhood and kill anyone. It's a miracle there were only the two deaths.

The mystery truck or van being parked outside and then moved the day of the explosion seems to hint more towards a bomb or something though?

I know that whatever it was it was HUGE and I'll never forget the moment when my house shook from it - and I'm a couple of miles away.

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