WHY am I a conscious being, aware of my own consciousness?

I agree we are genetically engineered, and the bible talks about DNA engineering when it talks about god forming eve out of adams rib and that's in genesis.Yes i suppose if animals had souls maybe they would run around possibly doing either good or bad deeds.Its obvious that they operate just on instinct and nature.Can they feel sadness and or love...i think maybe yes.But are they capable of true good or true evil.I dont believe so.

What I experienced is that.. your 'awareness' comes from the One(I would say 0 but it's also 1). You're experiencing what's inside the apple. EVERYTHING contains "the One".. it's just expressed a different way. We, the watchers, are the 'perfect center' of the apple. Maybe the apple got lonely
You can experience your own truth with the help of mystical substances.. know your limits.

P.S : As above, so below.

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you said it: pleasure
remember how addictive our brain reward system is
your intimate good mood generator, all wraps around it
(even your behaviour to some extent)

our souls have more power over us than any ego we came up with (are here for the dissolution of it, not consolidation)

The human being cant even begin to comprehend such a question until the separation occurs once again...

Thanks that was good to listen to, i learned something important...that is that we are all connected. Humans, the animals ,the earth, the sun, the planets, Our solar system, our galaxy and our universe and that it is most likely connected to other larger things, all dependent on each other and/or on something.

well as far as substances, i have smoked a certain mystical herb almost daily for about 10 years now, I feel smarter,I almost seem to age a bit slower, and i live a more stress free life.I believe that it has mystical properties and that it gives me more patience.Iv had my share of other substances in the past growing up, But i was able to discern which was doing more harm than good to my mind and body, and through the process of elimination now its narrowed down to just the one mystical sacred herb.I have no need for anything else.Im not sure i understand what your saying about the apple, i do in a way.

I dont know, i think alot of peoples ego out weighs their souls in these times we live, i see it almost everyday.I dont like most people very much and iv learned to try and become a reasonable and understanding person.Somtimes this old world makes a person want jesus to come and right the wrongs.Pin me or rate me good if your reading this and you like my thread anyone.

Oh and what separation is that? Because i dont know of any separation.But yea iv been thinking latly that some of these questions i ask myself can not be answerd here on this earth...Some things it seems you may have to die to know.

Don't try read into it too much. Nobody has any answers. It's all just theories and fairy tales. Even if I claimed to know why I'm here, I would still be skeptical about my own thoughts on it. Saying that, I have absolutely no opinion on the matter other than conveying to you my non-opinion. Nobody knows, so don't get conned into anyone's stupid theories. Even this one.

one of the reasons I LIKE PEOPLE, is that they are like me AT THE SOUL LEVEL, only here i found the uniting factor, driving force & a knowledge database if i can say it so

your attitude: from them to you (you start with an expectation.. the guide to prejudice - bad association mixed with bad experiences are painting the results for you)

my attitude: from me to them (i always start with awe, aaach here comes a soul! magnificent possibilities at horizont, when the two meet... this approach gives positive energy to the one i am interacting with/ or will be ... he gets my energy "invitation" ..reads it, understands my motives at soul level) And from the moment you literary know each other. (many dont know about this in them) old souls know ..you will find them with a smile on their face

You already answered it :)

when the spirit leaves its vehicle again.

one of the reasons I LIKE PEOPLE, is that they are like me AT THE SOUL LEVEL, only here i found the uniting factor, driving force & a knowledge database if i can say it so

your attitude: from them to you (you start with an expectation.. the guide to prejudice - bad association mixed with bad experiences are painting the results for you)

my attitude: from me to them (i always start with awe, aaach here comes a soul! magnificent possibilities at horizont, when the two meet... this approach gives positive energy to the one i am interacting with/ or will be ... he gets my energy "invitation" ..reads it, understands my motives at soul level) And from the moment you literary know each other. (many dont know about this in them) old souls know ..you will find them with a smile on their face





this!!

nice :o)

nothingness doesnt exist.

im going to say that again.

nothingness doesnt exist.



non-existence does not exist.

im going to say that again.

non-existence doesnt exist.

non existence is not possible. only existence is possible.
if it is, it is. if it is not, it isnt.

existence cannot have a beginning or end because that would suppose non-existence either before or after. non-existence does not exist.

thus, all that exists is infinite.

the fact that it seems limited is due to the necessity of experience.

one cannot experience progress unless one is limited.

infinity (you) divide and limit yourself because such is the ONLY WAY to experience ANYTHING.

were you not to impose perceptive limitations on yourself, you would know your true nature which is absolute purposelessness.
you are everything and everyone and all knowing.
however, such a state is equivocal to purposeless.
want to do something? already did it. want to know something? already do. want to talk to someone? youre them.

you are here because there is no other choice but to exist.
you are limited because such a process is required to create the circumstances for subject, object, and time.

bump 4 op in case theyre around somewhere. ;)

It's God's way of tormenting you.

You see, God loves us all, but if we don't believe in Him, He will burn us in Hell, for all Eternity.

Such a deal, right?

You aren't. You aren't even real. None of you are.

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LuCy holds the answers.. a golden mistake

I understand but however, while i may have existed prior to 1986...my consciousness did not, and if it did exist, then i am not aware of it.You could even say iv been around for millions of years if you include the particle or dust or matter that my physical form is made up of.From material that exploded from a super hyper nova some 48,000,000 years ago.Even from the material that formed the star that exploded into this hypernova, could date back forever or to the supposed big bang theory.I do not agree with that my nature is purposelessness,I probably would agree with that if it didn't declare in the bible that my existence serves one purpose and that is simply for the pleasure of the that which created me.We are all limited to the predetermined confines of the human body and our size compared to the known universe.The reason i say predetermined is because not only did i not choose to be here (that i'm aware of) but i also did not have any choice as to what exactly i am or look like or my size opposed to the massive universe around us.I did not choose for my eyes and hair to be brown.Its almost as if my consciousness was placed in a predetermined human host body.You may be right perhaps non existence does not exist but i wouldn't know because i exist! but i also know that my consciousness did not always exist therfor to me before 1986,my consciousness might aswell had been non existent.Nothingness would seem non existent but nothing can not be perceived so even if there was nothingness, no one would know it.

I wonder about time...Time itself.Some say that Time is a matter of perception, So if there is no one alive to perceive Time, does it still exist? The bible says that 1 day to god is like 1,000 years on earth.How could that be? I think without life on earth, there would still be time, Only without space and matter would time end.If there is still space and matter then things are still happening.If things are still happening then there is still a time scale to measure them on.So time is a product of space and matter. Just to have space and no matter THATs nothingness, If you could live and somehow exist out in deep dark silent empty space.It said god created the light and the darkness.So what is space?

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LOL reductionist materialist scientist and fanboys certainly don't have the answer.

I see so you are saying that there is one consciousness for all? But i am not everyone im just me, and i havnt experienced everything only some things unique to me.Seems to me there are 7 billion seperate ones.But i see what your saying because all together we and seen and experienced everything.Says god will give unto each according to their works.So I don't think the consciousness forms as one unit after death.

I see so you are saying that there is one consciousness for all? But i am not everyone im just me, and i havnt experienced everything only some things unique to me.Seems to me there are 7 billion seperate ones.But i see what your saying because all together we and seen and experienced everything.Says god will give unto each according to their works.So I don't think the consciousness forms as one unit after death.

Well i dont know what souls you have been meeting but their are plenty out there that you dont want to be on the same level with and murderous,adulterous,evil,deceitful,deceptive, arraogent,slothful, greedy liars who are only concerned with self.Its not that i dont like people,i do care for alot of people, just dont like some of them.

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It is your destiny to choose evolution or devolution.
Your question shows you are on the right track!

you're starting from ground zero...thats good


unfortunately, around here this kind of blasphemous thinking will get you labeled as a kook

I'm going to start calling this crap out

you are on the right path...keep thinking strange thoughts and question your existence and the "the social construct"

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there is an ego, but it should play only a tiny role.


Social conditioning has totally fucked peoples minds.

Even those who "appear" to be in control or as in, feeding the current "social construct", are actually not.