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There is no hell. Period.

 
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Some state this is a parable. But notice, with all parables Jesus never uses any specific names, unlike this case, where he specifically named Lazarus and Abraham.

This, and other evidences, let us know that this is not merely parable.
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Oh i meant to say if you have or accept the Mark of the Beast and serve and follow Satan,then you will join him in hell,which is really just a dark,stanky place full of demons.
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Revelation 20:10 - And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
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Hell is impossible. well, if it was real it would be extremely pointless. because, when you die you become a spirit.. but spirits don't have pain receptors... only your human body does... so you wouldn't be able to get hurt in hell... making it pointless.. which pretty much rules out heaven as well, after all the bible claims both are real..
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Hell is impossible. well, if it was real it would be extremely pointless. because, when you die you become a spirit.. but spirits don't have pain receptors... only your human body does... so you wouldn't be able to get hurt in hell... making it pointless.. which pretty much rules out heaven as well, after all the bible claims both are real..
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After examining many NDEs, of people visiting both heaven and hell.

They nearly all state, their senses are much more alive.

They can see, hear, smell, and feel.
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When we die we have to pay for every sin, every pain we caused another. We can't move on until our soul is clean. For some, this will feel like an eternity in Hell.
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Who made this idea up?
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When we die we have to pay for every sin, every pain we caused another. We can't move on until our soul is clean. For some, this will feel like an eternity in Hell.
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you base this on absolutely nothing.

Not only do you have absolutely no evidence that a soul exists, but the only evidence you have of some heaven or hell is your scriptures. And according to these scriptures (which jesus did not write btw, they were written over a generation after his death) hell is eternal.

Go read Revelation.
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You're sitting there saying there's no evidence we have souls and then you tell someone to go read revelations? hahahahahaha fucking moron
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Hell is impossible. well, if it was real it would be extremely pointless. because, when you die you become a spirit.. but spirits don't have pain receptors... only your human body does... so you wouldn't be able to get hurt in hell... making it pointless.. which pretty much rules out heaven as well, after all the bible claims both are real..
 Quoting: Chris Hansen


After examining many NDEs, of people visiting both heaven and hell.

They nearly all state, their senses are much more alive.

They can see, hear, smell, and feel.
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all but the feeling of pain. pain requires pain receptors which energy does not have (which is what you are when out of body)

if they felt pain then they were just lucid dreaming.

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Hell is real but not a place. It's in your head. A place you don't want to be. Eternity is a short time lived long.
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Hell is impossible. well, if it was real it would be extremely pointless. because, when you die you become a spirit.. but spirits don't have pain receptors... only your human body does... so you wouldn't be able to get hurt in hell... making it pointless.. which pretty much rules out heaven as well, after all the bible claims both are real..
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Wow you're a fucking genuis. I'm guessing you've never experimented with hallucinogens either. Please, elaborate for us on how time travel works while you're at it...
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When we die we have to pay for every sin, every pain we caused another. We can't move on until our soul is clean. For some, this will feel like an eternity in Hell.
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you base this on absolutely nothing.

Not only do you have absolutely no evidence that a soul exists, but the only evidence you have of some heaven or hell is your scriptures. And according to these scriptures (which jesus did not write btw, they were written over a generation after his death) hell is eternal.

Go read Revelation.
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You have absolutely no evidence a soul does not exist.
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When we die we have to pay for every sin, every pain we caused another. We can't move on until our soul is clean. For some, this will feel like an eternity in Hell.
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you base this on absolutely nothing.

Not only do you have absolutely no evidence that a soul exists, but the only evidence you have of some heaven or hell is your scriptures. And according to these scriptures (which jesus did not write btw, they were written over a generation after his death) hell is eternal.

Go read Revelation.
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You have absolutely no evidence a soul does not exist.
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it doesn't work that way, u could make an imaginary friend then tell someone YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE HE DOESN'T EXIST!

we do have astral bodies tho (which is a soul i guess) but it has absolutely nothing to do with that retarded fake religion

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Hell is real but not a place. It's in your head. A place you don't want to be. Eternity is a short time lived long.
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And your body can be stuck in Hades as well.

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Heaven and hell is just a state of being while living in the illusion.

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Hell is impossible. well, if it was real it would be extremely pointless. because, when you die you become a spirit.. but spirits don't have pain receptors... only your human body does... so you wouldn't be able to get hurt in hell... making it pointless.. which pretty much rules out heaven as well, after all the bible claims both are real..
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Wow you're a fucking genuis. I'm guessing you've never experimented with hallucinogens either. Please, elaborate for us on how time travel works while you're at it...
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i have no idea what you are talking about
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Hell is impossible. well, if it was real it would be extremely pointless. because, when you die you become a spirit.. but spirits don't have pain receptors... only your human body does... so you wouldn't be able to get hurt in hell... making it pointless.. which pretty much rules out heaven as well, after all the bible claims both are real..
 Quoting: Chris Hansen


Wow you're a fucking genuis. I'm guessing you've never experimented with hallucinogens either. Please, elaborate for us on how time travel works while you're at it...
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i have no idea what you are talking about
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are you dead yet? let me ask where your spirit and soul is? what is it encased in? do you know your past lives?
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Hell is impossible. well, if it was real it would be extremely pointless. because, when you die you become a spirit.. but spirits don't have pain receptors... only your human body does... so you wouldn't be able to get hurt in hell... making it pointless.. which pretty much rules out heaven as well, after all the bible claims both are real..
 Quoting: Chris Hansen


After examining many NDEs, of people visiting both heaven and hell.

They nearly all state, their senses are much more alive.

They can see, hear, smell, and feel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28010201


all but the feeling of pain. pain requires pain receptors which energy does not have (which is what you are when out of body)

if they felt pain then they were just lucid dreaming.
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Not merely lucid dreaming.

There's NDE cases, where people are coming across previously unknown information during the NDE, but was later proven to be true down to the exact details.

Meaning, this was not merely a dream, based on subconscious beliefs / imaginations.
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Hell is real but not a place. It's in your head. A place you don't want to be. Eternity is a short time lived long.
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And your body can be stuck in Hades as well.

Lucifer 1

Heaven and hell is just a state of being while living in the illusion.

word
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Is that image Gustave Doré?
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I know that there is a Hell. You are gambling your eternal soul I'm wrong. Why don't you ask God? There is a God in heaven who reveals secrets. He will speak to your personally if you're really interested. You ought to be. You ought to ask with everything you have in you, everything.
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Actually, it was Jesus who first mentioned Hell...in the Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 5 -

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.


Here on earth where we dwell in Time, our own system of justice can require a criminal to pay the fullest extent that Time allows: Life in Prison.

We can punish a criminal by requiring their very life as payment for their crime: the Death Penalty.

God is not bound by Time and physical death is not the end of a person. He dwells in eternity.

There is a penalty for Sin. Jesus paid it so you could go free. If you reject His payment for it, God will judge you fairly based on your own works and the Bible is clear- you won't make it based on your own righteousness (your good works, your obedience, etc).

You might imagine yourself to be a good person, and you might be in many ways. However, as a sinner, trusting in all your "good" to outweigh your "bad" before the Bar of God would be like a murderer standing in a Court of Law saying..."but judge, look at all the people I didn't kill!" If that judge is good at all, he must uphold the Law and we expect him to do so!

It's the same with God, Hell doesn't make Him unloving or unjust. He's done everything He can do. There's the testimony of God in Nature (Romans 1), the testimony of God in the Conscience(Romans 2), and the testimony of God in Jesus Christ (Romans 3). Jesus laid down His life in place of yours. You either receive this or you do not.
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Listen to Francis:

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Hell is real but not a place. It's in your head. A place you don't want to be. Eternity is a short time lived long.
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And your body can be stuck in Hades as well.

Lucifer 1

Heaven and hell is just a state of being while living in the illusion.

word
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Is that image Gustave Doré?
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yes
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Hell is impossible. well, if it was real it would be extremely pointless. because, when you die you become a spirit.. but spirits don't have pain receptors... only your human body does... so you wouldn't be able to get hurt in hell... making it pointless.. which pretty much rules out heaven as well, after all the bible claims both are real..
 Quoting: Chris Hansen


After examining many NDEs, of people visiting both heaven and hell.

They nearly all state, their senses are much more alive.

They can see, hear, smell, and feel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28010201


all but the feeling of pain. pain requires pain receptors which energy does not have (which is what you are when out of body)

if they felt pain then they were just lucid dreaming.
 Quoting: Chris Hansen


Not merely lucid dreaming.

There's NDE cases, where people are coming across previously unknown information during the NDE, but was later proven to be true down to the exact details.

Meaning, this was not merely a dream, based on subconscious beliefs / imaginations.
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im not saying they were all lucid dreaming, just the ones that experienced pain.
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Depends on what your definition of hell is. tomato

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After examining many NDEs, of people visiting both heaven and hell.

They nearly all state, their senses are much more alive.

They can see, hear, smell, and feel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28010201


all but the feeling of pain. pain requires pain receptors which energy does not have (which is what you are when out of body)

if they felt pain then they were just lucid dreaming.
 Quoting: Chris Hansen


Not merely lucid dreaming.

There's NDE cases, where people are coming across previously unknown information during the NDE, but was later proven to be true down to the exact details.

Meaning, this was not merely a dream, based on subconscious beliefs / imaginations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28010201

im not saying they were all lucid dreaming, just the ones that experienced pain.
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I understand your assumption, that a spirit, wouldn't feel. Prior to my research, I would have agreed with you.

Let mention 4 cases. These are real cases. In all 4 cases, the people were out of the body, and went to heaven. Here all 4 met the deceased. They learned of information, about these people that was previously unknown, and that was impossible to know about. After the experiences and returning to their bodies, the information was researched and verified to be true down to the exact details. One of these four, was a little girl. When she returned to her body, she shared information about two people that were killed to her parents. Not even her family knew about this. After research, her family verified all the information, that the little girl shared.

Now in these same experiences, 2 of the 4 were told that hell existed. The other 2, were shown hell, and seen people being tormented there.

In these experiences, it's also further verified from their accounts, that they're not merely ethereal spirit beings, but rather, their senses (including touch / feeling) are heightened, and still are very much alive and active.
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I love how all these bastard religions like Islam and Christianity twist what actually Abrahamic faith is.

Under Jewish belief, there is no hell. So I wouldn't worry about some retarded invention that didn't come along until emperor Constantine wanted to scare people into accepting his new faith.

But do whatever you want.

Also, from the little of what we know about some guy who lived that went by the name of Jesus, we know he never advocated torturing bad people, he advocated forgiving them. Also he never mentioned this idea of hell.

So, what I am trying to say, is that the concept of hell is retarded.
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the concept of negative polarity is very real, and the concept of a void is real.
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When we die we have to pay for every sin, every pain we caused another. We can't move on until our soul is clean. For some, this will feel like an eternity in Hell.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


you base this on absolutely nothing.

Not only do you have absolutely no evidence that a soul exists, but the only evidence you have of some heaven or hell is your scriptures. And according to these scriptures (which jesus did not write btw, they were written over a generation after his death) hell is eternal.

Go read Revelation.
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At the END OF THE WORLD , Jesus will separate the sheep from the goats.

The righteous ( the sheep who followed Jesus ) will go off to eternal life.

The goats ( those who reject God, hate what is good, and live selfishly - for example, hardened criminals, Rob Reiner, Cher, and others who vote for Democrats ) will go off to ETERNAL DAMNATION, where they will wail, gnash their teeth, and be angry at their punishment, but they will NOT repent of their many sins.
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When we die we have to pay for every sin, every pain we caused another. We can't move on until our soul is clean. For some, this will feel like an eternity in Hell.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


you base this on absolutely nothing.

Not only do you have absolutely no evidence that a soul exists, but the only evidence you have of some heaven or hell is your scriptures. And according to these scriptures (which jesus did not write btw, they were written over a generation after his death) hell is eternal.

Go read Revelation.
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At the END OF THE WORLD , Jesus will separate the sheep from the goats.

The righteous ( the sheep who followed Jesus ) will go off to eternal life.

The goats ( those who reject God, hate what is good, and live selfishly - for example, hardened criminals, Rob Reiner, Cher, and others who vote for Democrats ) will go off to ETERNAL DAMNATION, where they will wail, gnash their teeth, and be angry at their punishment, but they will NOT repent of their many sins.
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you really need to get over the whole party politics thing..GoD doesn't give a rats ass about petty bs and he doesn't like people who do.
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Thread: The Truth about Hell - but the mainstream fundies can't accept it. and maybe you can't either
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I agree with most of your thread but I disagree with you when you said that at the end some people will cease to exist if they do not change from their ways, I believe everyone will exist forever in one state or another even if the are "resurrected to everlasting contempt'

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I agree with most of your thread but I disagree with you when you said that at the end some people will cease to exist if they do not change from their ways, I believe everyone will exist forever in one state or another even if the are "resurrected to everlasting contempt'
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you might be right about that.

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