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There is no hell. Period.

 
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I love how all these bastard religions like Islam and Christianity twist what actually Abrahamic faith is.

Under Jewish belief, there is no hell. So I wouldn't worry about some retarded invention that didn't come along until emperor Constantine wanted to scare people into accepting his new faith.

But do whatever you want.

Also, from the little of what we know about some guy who lived that went by the name of Jesus, we know he never advocated torturing bad people, he advocated forgiving them. Also he never mentioned this idea of hell.

So, what I am trying to say, is that the concept of hell is retarded.
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You will find out when you die.

Concept of hell is fear of the unknown. It is not retarded, only to those who fear it.
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You'd better be right, OP. Eternity is a LONG time to be wrong!
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Planet Earth = Hell ! Periodjavascript:doSmilie(':hiding:');
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I love how all these bastard religions like Islam and Christianity twist what actually Abrahamic faith is.

Under Jewish belief, there is no hell. So I wouldn't worry about some retarded invention that didn't come along until emperor Constantine wanted to scare people into accepting his new faith.

But do whatever you want.

Also, from the little of what we know about some guy who lived that went by the name of Jesus, we know he never advocated torturing bad people, he advocated forgiving them. Also he never mentioned this idea of hell.

So, what I am trying to say, is that the concept of hell is retarded.
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Thanks for setting us all staight, God.
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The exact same Greek word, is used when referring to the eternal life of the righteous.

Also the site, you listed is incorrect. The original Greek word, is 'aionios'. Which is used for both 'eternal punishment' and 'eternal life'.

Here's a couple of meanings:

1) without beginning and end

2) never to cease, everlasting

Also, what actual proof / evidence, do you have that this is 'made up'?
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the fact that it is in the bible. Therefor it is made up.
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If you study NDEs, there's a lot of evidence to verify an eternal does exist.
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bsflag

Anecdotal bs is not evidence of anything.
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Read Howard Bloom's NDE book. He was much like yourself until he died. He was an a hippie athiest art professor. What he experienced scared the crap out of him and now he's a pastor. I pray that you don't have to go through what he experienced before you wake up.
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the fact that it is in the bible. Therefor it is made up.
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If you study NDEs, there's a lot of evidence to verify an eternal does exist.
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bsflag

Anecdotal bs is not evidence of anything.
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Read Howard Bloom's NDE book. He was much like yourself until he died. He was an a hippie athiest art professor. What he experienced scared the crap out of him and now he's a pastor. I pray that you don't have to go through what he experienced before you wake up.
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Yea, here's a vid testimony of Howard's account, and other atheists, who also saw hell:



The presenter in this vid, is Dr. Rawlings. Working directly with patients, he came across several accounts of those who witnessed hell in their NDEs.
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If you study NDEs, there's a lot of evidence to verify an eternal does exist.
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bsflag

Anecdotal bs is not evidence of anything.
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Read Howard Bloom's NDE book. He was much like yourself until he died. He was an a hippie athiest art professor. What he experienced scared the crap out of him and now he's a pastor. I pray that you don't have to go through what he experienced before you wake up.
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Yea, here's a vid testimony of Howard's account, and other atheists, who also saw hell:



The presenter in this vid, is Dr. Rawlings. Working directly with patients, he came across several accounts of those who witnessed hell in their NDEs.
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Right. Howard Storm. I got his name mixed up with another atheist. I bought his book and read it. He was also on Coast to Coast when Art was host. The good old days.
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I love how all these bastard religions like Islam and Christianity twist what actually Abrahamic faith is.

Under Jewish belief, there is no hell. So I wouldn't worry about some retarded invention that didn't come along until emperor Constantine wanted to scare people into accepting his new faith.

But do whatever you want.

Also, from the little of what we know about some guy who lived that went by the name of Jesus, we know he never advocated torturing bad people, he advocated forgiving them. Also he never mentioned this idea of hell.

So, what I am trying to say, is that the concept of hell is retarded.
 Quoting: retards who believe in hell 9020488



Yeah... Because jewish faith is so much less retarded than islam or christianity.

Hahahaha, good one m8!
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Also the actor, Curt (Curd) Jurgens had a vision of hell. Jurgens was a famous European actor who was able to translate his success into Hollywood movie roles(per ejemplo The Enemy Below) including a role as a James Bond Villian in the Spy Who Loved Me.


Here is what he said.

Curt Jergens’ Vision of Hell During Heart Surgery
Luke 16:19–31

Curt Jurgens, a German actor and idol, had a negative experience when his heart stopped during much of the four hours it took Dr. Michael Debakey in Houston to replace part of an aorta (the main blood vessel):

Soon I had a feeling that life was ebbing from me. I felt powerful sensations of dread. I had been looking up into the big glass cupola over the operating room. This cupola now began to change. Suddenly it turned glowing red. I saw twisted faces grimacing as they stared down at me.

I tried to struggle upright and defend myself against these ghosts, who were moving closer to me. Then it seemed as if the glass cupola had turned into a transparent dome that was slowly sinking down over me. A fiery rain was now falling, but though the drops were enormous, none of them touched me. They spattered down around me, and out of them grew menacing tongues of flames licking up about me.

I could no longer shut out the frightful truth: beyond the faces dominating this fiery world were faces of the damned. I had a feeling of despair … the sensation of horror was so great it choked me.

Obviously I was in Hell itself, and the glowing tongues of fire could be reaching me any minute. In this situation, the black silhouette of a human figure suddenly materialized and began to draw near. It was a woman in a black veil, a slender woman with a lipless mouth and in her eyes an expression that sent icy shudders down my back.

She stretched out her arms toward me and, pulled by an irresistible force, I followed her. An icy breath touched me and I came into a world filled with faint sounds of lamentation, though there was not a person in sight. Then and there I asked the figure to tell me who she was. A voice answered: “I am death."

I summoned all my strength and thought: “I’ll not follow her any more, for I want to live.”
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Is that where God sent Neb so he would become a 'firm believer'?

Da:4:31:
While the word was in the king's mouth,
there fell a voice from heaven, saying, O king Nebuchadnezzar,
to thee it is spoken;
The kingdom is departed from thee.
Da:4:32:
And they shall drive thee from men,
and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field:
they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen,
and seven times shall pass over thee,
until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men,
and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
Da:4:33:
The same hour was the thing fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar:
and he was driven from men,
and did eat grass as oxen,
and his body was wet with the dew of heaven,
till his hairs were grown like eagles' feathers,
and his nails like birds' claws.
Da:4:34:
And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven,
and mine understanding returned unto me,
and I blessed the most High,
and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever,
whose dominion is an everlasting dominion,
and his kingdom is from generation to generation:
Da:4:35:
And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing:
and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven,
and among the inhabitants of the earth:
and none can stay his hand,
or say unto him,
What doest thou?
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Hell is real, it's in your mind.
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Mathew 25:46 Jesus - "And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life."
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Well, I'd have to say that you at least proved the OP wrong on a biblical angle.
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Tell yourself that when you are there.
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Anecdotal bs is not evidence of anything.
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Read Howard Bloom's NDE book. He was much like yourself until he died. He was an a hippie athiest art professor. What he experienced scared the crap out of him and now he's a pastor. I pray that you don't have to go through what he experienced before you wake up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6826350


Yea, here's a vid testimony of Howard's account, and other atheists, who also saw hell:



The presenter in this vid, is Dr. Rawlings. Working directly with patients, he came across several accounts of those who witnessed hell in their NDEs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28010201




Right. Howard Storm. I got his name mixed up with another atheist. I bought his book and read it. He was also on Coast to Coast when Art was host. The good old days.
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Hey thanks, didn't know he did a coast to coast interview.

Just found it, and listening to it now.

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I have encountered demons and I know other Christians who have had similar experiences. We are in a state of spiritual warfare and they are our enemy. I have not seen Hell and I hope that I never will, but I have encountered those who reside there and that is all the proof I need.
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Read Howard Bloom's NDE book. He was much like yourself until he died. He was an a hippie athiest art professor. What he experienced scared the crap out of him and now he's a pastor. I pray that you don't have to go through what he experienced before you wake up.
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Yea, here's a vid testimony of Howard's account, and other atheists, who also saw hell:



The presenter in this vid, is Dr. Rawlings. Working directly with patients, he came across several accounts of those who witnessed hell in their NDEs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28010201




Right. Howard Storm. I got his name mixed up with another atheist. I bought his book and read it. He was also on Coast to Coast when Art was host. The good old days.
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Hey thanks, didn't know he did a coast to coast interview.

Just found it, and listening to it now.

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Anytime. I'd love to watch the video but I have to work in the AM. Enjoy the show!
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I love how all these bastard religions like Islam and Christianity twist what actually Abrahamic faith is.

Under Jewish belief, there is no hell. So I wouldn't worry about some retarded invention that didn't come along until emperor Constantine wanted to scare people into accepting his new faith.

But do whatever you want.

Also, from the little of what we know about some guy who lived that went by the name of Jesus, we know he never advocated torturing bad people, he advocated forgiving them. Also he never mentioned this idea of hell.

So, what I am trying to say, is that the concept of hell is retarded.
 Quoting: retards who believe in hell 9020488


Your post is actually true and with substantial Biblical support. However, for you to say in the same "sentence and breath" that Christianity believes in hellfire, and yet say that Jesus didn't teach it (and, again, I'm agreeing with you here) is an oxymoron.

So, if I may suggest, just so that it's clear to others... if you refer to "Christians" (as in, those claiming to be Christian) who believe in and teach hellfire as Christendom and refer to Jesus and what he believed/practiced/taught (and those who follow this belief and his model) as Christianity, things will start making more sense and be less confusing.

Christendom has definitely bastardized Jesus Christ's teachings... not only hellfire but (very similar basis) the supposedly immortal soul, the Trinity, etc.
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I'm guessing none of you have ever been to war?
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First words after death for you::Oh Shit:
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There is no hell. Period.
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I feel like there is a hell, when my girlfriend is on her period.
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I love how all these bastard religions like Islam and Christianity twist what actually Abrahamic faith is.

Under Jewish belief, there is no hell. So I wouldn't worry about some retarded invention that didn't come along until emperor Constantine wanted to scare people into accepting his new faith.

But do whatever you want.

Also, from the little of what we know about some guy who lived that went by the name of Jesus, we know he never advocated torturing bad people, he advocated forgiving them. Also he never mentioned this idea of hell.

So, what I am trying to say, is that the concept of hell is retarded.
 Quoting: retards who believe in hell 9020488


Thank you OP and in addition He didn't teach tithing either, nor did He teach that we should fear God but rather love Him as father.
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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I love how all these bastard religions like Islam and Christianity twist what actually Abrahamic faith is.

Under Jewish belief, there is no hell. So I wouldn't worry about some retarded invention that didn't come along until emperor Constantine wanted to scare people into accepting his new faith.

But do whatever you want.

Also, from the little of what we know about some guy who lived that went by the name of Jesus, we know he never advocated torturing bad people, he advocated forgiving them. Also he never mentioned this idea of hell.

So, what I am trying to say, is that the concept of hell is retarded.
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There are hell planets in the universe. They are the ones where everyone in entire population is extremely selfish.
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I agree with most of your thread but I disagree with you when you said that at the end some people will cease to exist if they do not change from their ways, I believe everyone will exist forever in one state or another even if the are "resurrected to everlasting contempt'
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you might be right about that.
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All men's souls are immortal, but the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine.- Socrates
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In the video below of the Cave by Plato, you can clearly tell that he is teaching us that heaven and hell is a state of being while "living" in the flesh and NOT an after life event in the spirit world.




Your ascension after death will be determined by how you lived and your state of being while encased in the flesh. Hence, it is all about your energy and vibrations.

The higher the love and God frequency, the higher the ascension

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The lower the love and God frequency, the lower the ascension and it is akin to where the animal souls dwell.

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There is no hell. Period.
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I feel like there is a hell, when my girlfriend is on her period.
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You mean she cannot control her emotions or pain and thus takes this out on you which is a reflection of herself on you and the world?
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Hell is impossible. well, if it was real it would be extremely pointless. because, when you die you become a spirit.. but spirits don't have pain receptors... only your human body does... so you wouldn't be able to get hurt in hell... making it pointless.. which pretty much rules out heaven as well, after all the bible claims both are real..
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Interesting point. But I recently saw a video by a former navy seal who had a NDE experience and ended up in hell.
He was amazed that his spirit body could experience the same pain as his former flesh body. So be not too sure about the spirit not being able to experience all former human sensations including pain.
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I love how all these bastard religions like Islam and Christianity twist what actually Abrahamic faith is.

Under Jewish belief, there is no hell. So I wouldn't worry about some retarded invention that didn't come along until emperor Constantine wanted to scare people into accepting his new faith.

But do whatever you want.

Also, from the little of what we know about some guy who lived that went by the name of Jesus, we know he never advocated torturing bad people, he advocated forgiving them. Also he never mentioned this idea of hell.

So, what I am trying to say, is that the concept of hell is retarded.
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you were given the gift of free will. Your opinion is just that, your opinion.

Enjoy hf
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Under Jewish belief, there is no hell.
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I dont give a fuck about jewish belief. And just because jewish dont believe there is a hell, doesnt mean its true..

And just because christians believe there is a hell, doesnt mean its true.
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Under Jewish belief, there is no hell.
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I dont give a fuck about jewish belief. And just because jewish dont believe there is a hell, doesnt mean its true..

And just because christians believe there is a hell, doesnt mean its true.
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what is truth?
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