I want to go completely raw vegan but I have trouble making dishes that keep me satisfied. Right now I just eat a lot of fruit and vegetables bu

actually it will probably be impossible for me to go completely raw vegan, although out of the 10 servings of vegetables and fruit I eat a day more than half are raw.

Dude, don't go raw vegan. Nothing but horror stories.

look up the paleo diet.

thats alot better for you both inside and out.

well tomorrow night we are having meat loaf...next night leg of lamb..and thanksgiving 2 fried turkeys..does that help?

actually it will probably be impossible for me to go completely raw vegan, although out of the 10 servings of vegetables and fruit I eat a day more than half are raw.

Christ, don't go paleo either.

nope. I actually had two lamb chops today (small ones). I love lamb.

I want to try this because I heard it is healthiest and also I would feel better about the animals.

Paleo ok, but primal even better. Look it up. Are you card sensitive is the REAL question? If so, vegan will make you FAT

like what? I know it is a terrible diet for developing children. But I haven't heard it is for adults.

If you could help me I would appreciate it.

Any studies or whatever, I don't turn my back on science.

I know on a metabolic level, meat causes inflammation and fruit and vegetables contain large amounts of anti-oxidants which are anti-inflammatory. And inflammation causes aging and disease, or at least contributes to it I should say.

WHOOPS! I mean CARB SENSITIVE...if you are at all, primal diet is the ONLY way to go, and vegan will make you FATTER

Don't go primal, either, especially if it's the "Primal" diet being peddled by M. Sisson.

And don't listen to this BS about carbs. That's not the problem with raw veganism.

the fruits and veggies won't matter if they are GMO'd and pestilized

we're all gonna die

carb sensitive? I have practically no metabolism. All excessive calories get stored as fat on my body. Nevertheless I am not fat, because I exercise daily and have great will power over what I put into my body.

so what diet would you suggest?

Yeah I am definitely not anti-carb. I can tell you when I cut out a lot of carbs, I don't have much energy for exercise. I still get through it but I feel god awful.

I actually take a carb supplement, because of the intensity of my daily workout, I need the extra.

Actually I take quite a bit of supplements. fish oil, multi vitamin, ester c, whey protein, glutamine etc.

Other than the carb supplement, the majority of carbs I consume are complex, 12 grain breads, and kashi cereal. Also chobani yogurt.

I am curious to know as well.

But hey aussie. On the Paleo diet, you completely disregard carbs right? I don't think I can do that.

have dabbled with it a bit and I don't think my body agrees with it.

Annie Thorisdottir (hottest chick alive) agrees with me... but I dunno, I am trying to create the perfect diet.

Not sure, but one that isn't based on magical thinking, shallow science and 'Grok' reenactment would probably be favored.

which begs the question again, if you're carb sensitive, which sounds like you're not, then any diet that includes carb at all except dark veggies, will make you FAT...many people are NOT carb sensitive, but most in fact are...

some of what I consume is organic, some is gmo'd and contains pesticides.

While it is a cause for concern, the latest science actually suggests that organic foods are not healthier.

Although apparently some GMO products can cause kidney failure in some people.

I would prefer no pesticides but considering the air I breathe is much dirtier I think taht is the least of my worries.

Also none of the supercentarians I have read about consumed an organic diet.

what is that?

I was Vegan for a few years.

What I found to satisfy my need for animal proteins;

Nuts
Beans
Rice
Quinoa
Oats


I loved eating Vegan but I exercise a lot and I simply could not get enough calories to satisfy my metabolism and protein requirments. I am now pescetarian.

i wouldnt disregard it although essentially its not part of that particular diet.

ive just weened myself off it and now once a week or even every two weeks i have a massive bowl of pasta and that does it for me.

maybe try that approach and see how you go. up to you though, its your body and onmly you know what makes it tick and what makes it bomb out.

"I was Vegan for a few years.

What I found to satisfy my need for animal proteins"

that about says it all bout you fruitcakes.

haha! I was lacto-ovo pescatarian for a while.

But I am in the SAME exact boat as you my brother. I simply NEED to eat this stuff or I literally feel like I am dying. I can't explain it, after a heavy workout, there is nothing better than some lean fucking chicken...

I literally feel like I am dying if I deprive myself, it is just simply not as energy packed (the veggies and fruits).

I eat at least a handful of mixed nuts daily (almond, walnut, brazil, some cashew).

I love beans and rice. Get a lot of oats, but will have to try quinoa.

Thanks man.

Wow, OP, didn't know I needed to spell it out for you.

Paleo is a fad diet.

yup, thanks man.

I feel you.

Quinoa is an amazing grain. You can spice it however you want and it's very filling and full of protein and fiber. Good stuff.

I got ya. Didn't know what "grok" reenactment was.

Also I misread you and thought you said one that WAS based on Grok reenactment.

Still not sure what that is.

But I do try and keep away from fads, but I am open to ideas and I will read the science as well.

Thing is. The oldest man ever lived basically off of a vegetarian diet. I think there is something to it, like I said, I know animal flesh causes inflammation, but it is also energy rich.

So I am trying to figure out what to do. I would like to live as long as possible.

I'm being pedantic, but technically quinoa isn't a grain. It's a pseudocereal and a seed.

Why do you need to feel the nod of approval from Vegans?