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Waking up next to Oprah.
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Ahh. Fun fun fun OP. So should Israel be given "carte blànche" because "they're muslim"?
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Is the sheer number of individuals who are so incredibly ignorant and devoid of any understanding of dogmatic Islamic ideology and philosophy -- and then go on to create an extremely distorted perspective of the situation in Gaza without proper understanding of the reality at hand.

Have you READ the Qu'ran? Do you know what Sharia law is? Do you know this religion is bigoted beyond comprehension, at complete odds with the rest of the free world? That to this day they will stone women and gays? Do you understand Palestine is a word created in recent history to reflect displaced Arabs that mostly subscribe to this ideology???

Or will you continue to bark the same shit without educating yourself?

If you do not know what the true face of the religion is about, DO NOT OPINE about Israel and its operation in Gaza, because you have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR REFERRING TO.

THIS IS NOT ANY KIND OF TRADITIONAL WAR OF SIDE A vs. SIDE B.

When you fully understand that radical Islam is a WORLD DOMINATING, FREEDOM HATING IDEOLOGY that is akin to mental illness on the order of dementia, and teaches prevarication and deceit is the way to subdue all that DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT, you will understand that ISRAEL IS NOT FIGHTING A WAR WITH OTHER HUMANS.

It is fighting a war against a PSYCHOSIS that unfortunately will place innocent civilians -- including women and children -- in its path at ALL COSTS -- to ADVANCE ITS IDEOLOGY.

So please, do yourself and this forum a favor and shut your incredibly naive mouth until you are fully educated on the topic. Cease and desist from casting blind blame in the wrong direction and promulgating bullshit. You're no better than the mainstream media.
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Who are you to tell people which way of living is the right one? If people like to live under sharia and believe in allah, who are you to tell them they may not?
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The real war is to make people take a side or become an incidental, inconsequential casualty, when taking sides means that Satan get's to put a big black smear on your soul, or trying to fly blind, without guidance, because all learning and knowlege given, is biased from the stain they accepted, and simulated love is revoked on the basis of compliance.
So the living words are drowned out and the love only fleeting from the cold meaningless void you are cast into, when some total bastard parks their fat ass in front of your outstretched hands so that anyone observing from a distance, is told that your trying to steal his wallet from his back pocket, while another probes you from behind, with 600 pound demons holding your arms and legs, and a pack of wild beasts circles, ripping off pieces of your flesh and devouring you alive.
Your spirit lives an exile in the frigid barren of an imposed purgatory, while your physical life force winds down to the absolute nothing that you are left to work with
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I don't need a political entity to tell me what sins to commit. I can do my own.
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I am Muslim, and OP, seems like you haven't read the Quran yet. Did you ever expand your awareness to realize the farm that you live in?
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I hope OP will forgive for ruining his thread with this material:


The Quran:

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.



Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."



Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.



Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."



Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').



Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.



Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"



Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."



Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).



Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?



Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"



Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.



Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."



Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:293, also). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."



Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."



Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."



Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."



Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months).



Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."



Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The "striving" spoken of here is Jihad (Arabic).



Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"



Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.



Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.



Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."


Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."



Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."



Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).



Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)



Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"



Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.



Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.



Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners," Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test. "But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost."



Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"



Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.



Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.



Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."



Quran (61:10-12) - "O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?- That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity." This verse was given in battle. It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.



Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.


From the Hadith:



Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."



Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.



Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'



Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)



Abu Dawud (14:2527) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious



Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah



Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."



Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."



Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."



Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."



Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"



Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihid died the death of a hypocrite.'"



Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."



Muslim (19:4294) - "When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him... He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war... When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.



Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power." Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.



Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.



Tabari 17:187 "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion." The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah. The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.



Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 327: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”



Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: - Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern creation, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.



Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.
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What's even MORE scary is when you realize that the VATICAN created ISLAM to help capture Jerusalem during the time of the Crusade! The EVIL goes all the way to the top with this one!


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Do you not understand no one is free? The illuminati, shadow government, the orion group, siris b extra terra astrals or whatever you want to call them. Have the human race fooled and fighting each other, we must work with the love energy to combat them and to bring us to harmony.
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Sorry but ya know this is the closest thing to the truthpeace
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Is the sheer number of individuals who are so incredibly ignorant and devoid of any understanding of dogmatic Islamic ideology and philosophy -- and then go on to create an extremely distorted perspective of the situation in Gaza without proper understanding of the reality at hand.

Have you READ the Qu'ran? Do you know what Sharia law is? Do you know this religion is bigoted beyond comprehension, at complete odds with the rest of the free world? That to this day they will stone women and gays? Do you understand Palestine is a word created in recent history to reflect displaced Arabs that mostly subscribe to this ideology???

Or will you continue to bark the same shit without educating yourself?

If you do not know what the true face of the religion is about, DO NOT OPINE about Israel and its operation in Gaza, because you have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR REFERRING TO.

THIS IS NOT ANY KIND OF TRADITIONAL WAR OF SIDE A vs. SIDE B.

When you fully understand that radical Islam is a WORLD DOMINATING, FREEDOM HATING IDEOLOGY that is akin to mental illness on the order of dementia, and teaches prevarication and deceit is the way to subdue all that DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT, you will understand that ISRAEL IS NOT FIGHTING A WAR WITH OTHER HUMANS.

It is fighting a war against a PSYCHOSIS that unfortunately will place innocent civilians -- including women and children -- in its path at ALL COSTS -- to ADVANCE ITS IDEOLOGY.

So please, do yourself and this forum a favor and shut your incredibly naive mouth until you are fully educated on the topic. Cease and desist from casting blind blame in the wrong direction and promulgating bullshit. You're no better than the mainstream media.
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Its sad, that you never took your time to study esoteric aspects of religion - the most sacred inner layers of the "onion" of every religion. Why stop at crude, material and exoteric aspects? Materialistic and contradictory exoteric beliefs, sometimes even falsely manipulated, should motivate you to peel off the next layer to reach a higher consciousness ... and one day you'll reach Truth, layer by layer. But for many people its enough, when they made their egocentric exoteric discoveries, because their intention is not to study honestly, but to slander and defile.

Start to study Sufism and esoteric Islam, and you'll realize that Islam is peaceful religion as Esoteric Christianity and Esoteric Judaism.

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The only just fate for Mohammed the prophet is to be shanked in prison, like all pedophiles.
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That brings up an interesting question that I have been wondering about.

How many pedophiles have converted to islam?

Just so they can justify fucking little girls AND boys.. and goats and sheep and cows and camels and who knows what else..
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I don't think this started out as a religious war. It started bacause the west has ever since Napolean been trying to establish a state of Israel in the Middle East. Prior to WW 1 and 2 the Jews and Palistinians lived together peacefully in that region and this is why there are still palestinians taht live w/in Israel today.

It was the fact that the theocratic state is Israel has been intentionally placed in the Holy Land that has caused all these problems. From where I sit it looks like someone wanted to start WW3 in the end times and this was the way to do it. So far it appears to be working and 911 was all part of it.
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Is the sheer number of individuals who are so incredibly ignorant and devoid of any understanding of dogmatic Islamic ideology and philosophy -- and then go on to create an extremely distorted perspective of the situation in Gaza without proper understanding of the reality at hand.

Have you READ the Qu'ran? Do you know what Sharia law is? Do you know this religion is bigoted beyond comprehension, at complete odds with the rest of the free world? That to this day they will stone women and gays? Do you understand Palestine is a word created in recent history to reflect displaced Arabs that mostly subscribe to this ideology???

Or will you continue to bark the same shit without educating yourself?

If you do not know what the true face of the religion is about, DO NOT OPINE about Israel and its operation in Gaza, because you have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR REFERRING TO.

THIS IS NOT ANY KIND OF TRADITIONAL WAR OF SIDE A vs. SIDE B.

When you fully understand that radical Islam is a WORLD DOMINATING, FREEDOM HATING IDEOLOGY that is akin to mental illness on the order of dementia, and teaches prevarication and deceit is the way to subdue all that DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT, you will understand that ISRAEL IS NOT FIGHTING A WAR WITH OTHER HUMANS.

It is fighting a war against a PSYCHOSIS that unfortunately will place innocent civilians -- including women and children -- in its path at ALL COSTS -- to ADVANCE ITS IDEOLOGY.

So please, do yourself and this forum a favor and shut your incredibly naive mouth until you are fully educated on the topic. Cease and desist from casting blind blame in the wrong direction and promulgating bullshit. You're no better than the mainstream media.
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Like the Yids are any better. Read the Talmud? Same racist bullshit. Just STFU.
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I hate muslims but Palestine is not a recently made up word. The word dates back to the Romans.
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Who called the Jewish people Palestines.. to insult them..
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The Quaran should be burned and Mohammaed should be drawn by left handed 4th graders.
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HOLY SHITE!!!

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When you fully understand that radical Islam is a WORLD DOMINATING, FREEDOM HATING IDEOLOGY that is akin to mental illness on the order of dementia, and teaches prevarication and deceit is the way to subdue all
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This is what Islam and Liberalism have in common.
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Questions for Islam?

Who was the first muslim?

Verse from Quran saying moses was first muslim:

Verse 7:143
"And when Moses came to our appointed tryst and his Lord had spoken unto him, he said: My Lord! Show me (Thy Self), that I may gaze upon Thee. He said: Thou wilt not see Me, but gaze upon the mountain! If it stand still in its place, then thou wilt see Me, and when his Lord revealed (His) glory to the mountain He sent it crashing down. And Moses fell down senseless. And when he woke he said: Glory unto Thee! I turn unto Thee repentant, and I amn the first of (true) believers."

OK SO MOSES WAS THE FIRST MUSLIM ACCORDING TO THE QURAN (KORAN) BUT THERE IS ANOTHER VERSE SAYING MUHAMMAD WAS THE FIRST MUSLIM ????????????

Verse 39:12 (This is Muhammad speaking in this verse)

"And I am commanded to be the first of those who are Muslims (surrender unto Him)"

So who was it?? Moses or Muhammad???

NEXT QUESTION:

Before the angel of light was going to appear to him who was Muhammad worshiping? If it is Allah how did he know of Allah before the angel appeared?

NEXT QUESTION:

What did Muhammad do to prove he was a prophet!! Every prophet in the bible proved they were a prophet by prophesying something or performing a miracle! What did Muhammad do?

NEXT QUESTION:

Is Allah forgiving?

Quran Verse that says yes:

Verse 4:110
"Yet whoso doeth evil or wrongeth his own soul, then seeketh pardon of Allah, will find Allah Forgiving, Merciful."

Quran Verse that say no:

Verse 4:168
"Lo! those who disbelieve and deal in wrong, Allah will never forgive them, neither will He guide them unto a road,"

NOTE THE WORD NEVER! The Wikipedia definition of never is "At no time" So even if I convert to Islam according to this verse at no time will I be forgiven.

Last but not least let us ask this:

How can we accurately prove a prophet from the Bible or the Quran is truly a prophet of God?

Observe whether or not the predictions of future deeds of people in recorded history are accurately fulfilled.

Based on that "It is fairly clear that the Bible manifests the attribute of having many specifically fulfilled prophetic predictions, which constitutes powerful evidence that the Bible truly originates from true prophets of the true almighty God. The Bible meets the challenge which God (YHWH) set out: To predict events of human history. --- In contrast, however, there does not seem to be a single specific prediction of human history in the Qur'an which is unique and original to the Qur'an and was not found in the Bible first (such as some end-time judgment concepts). This lack of predictive power is an announcement that the Qur'an does not clearly demonstrate God's power and authority within its pages. It fails to meet God's challenge."

Check this link for educational truth. At least read it then decide!

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In no way am I being anti Islam! I am merely asking these serious questions about Islam cause I believe in the bible and I am always open to those that can accurately disprove it. But since it is so hard for people to disprove, especially if you use the medium of math around it or on it. Then I figured I would make it easier and let you prove that your religion is true by proving yours. If not then you can neither prove the bible incorrect nor prove your religion to be correct. Therefore anyone who seeks truth can clearly see that Jesus Christs words in the bible is the only word of GOD!
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Amazing that they can't answer these questions! Simply provide solid educated responses to these questions. Shouldn't be hard unless it is a false prophet and religion??
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Is the sheer number of individuals who are so incredibly ignorant and devoid of any understanding of dogmatic Islamic ideology and philosophy -- and then go on to create an extremely distorted perspective of the situation in Gaza without proper understanding of the reality at hand.

Have you READ the Qu'ran? Do you know what Sharia law is? Do you know this religion is bigoted beyond comprehension, at complete odds with the rest of the free world? That to this day they will stone women and gays? Do you understand Palestine is a word created in recent history to reflect displaced Arabs that mostly subscribe to this ideology???

Or will you continue to bark the same shit without educating yourself?

If you do not know what the true face of the religion is about, DO NOT OPINE about Israel and its operation in Gaza, because you have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR REFERRING TO.

THIS IS NOT ANY KIND OF TRADITIONAL WAR OF SIDE A vs. SIDE B.

When you fully understand that radical Islam is a WORLD DOMINATING, FREEDOM HATING IDEOLOGY that is akin to mental illness on the order of dementia, and teaches prevarication and deceit is the way to subdue all that DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT, you will understand that ISRAEL IS NOT FIGHTING A WAR WITH OTHER HUMANS.

It is fighting a war against a PSYCHOSIS that unfortunately will place innocent civilians -- including women and children -- in its path at ALL COSTS -- to ADVANCE ITS IDEOLOGY.

So please, do yourself and this forum a favor and shut your incredibly naive mouth until you are fully educated on the topic. Cease and desist from casting blind blame in the wrong direction and promulgating bullshit. You're no better than the mainstream media.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485413


How old are you?

What gives you the right to judge others?

Who taught you to think? And why dont you ask questions before being so pathetically naive yourself?

All religions are in conflict with the apparent world as we are discovering it.

Palestine is Palestine, you dont need to paint it something else. [link to www.juancole.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1530252


OP, thank you for your post. But you might as well try to stop the tide with a teaspoon. Comments like these are basically where you are casting your pearls before swine. They will never get it. I suggest you just cast the dust off your feet and move on. These folks are for the most part blinded and their ears are stopped to the Truth. Thanks again for taking the time to share this. By the way, I have also read the Qu'ran and you are sharing exactly what it says and how the people of "Palesstine" act and their ideology. I also would not give any credence to the Talmud. That is also written by man, not YHVH.
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i second that one op, very well put.
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Is the sheer number of individuals who are so incredibly ignorant and devoid of any understanding of dogmatic Islamic ideology and philosophy -- and then go on to create an extremely distorted perspective of the situation in Gaza without proper understanding of the reality at hand.

Have you READ the Qu'ran? Do you know what Sharia law is? Do you know this religion is bigoted beyond comprehension, at complete odds with the rest of the free world? That to this day they will stone women and gays? Do you understand Palestine is a word created in recent history to reflect displaced Arabs that mostly subscribe to this ideology???

Or will you continue to bark the same shit without educating yourself?

If you do not know what the true face of the religion is about, DO NOT OPINE about Israel and its operation in Gaza, because you have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR REFERRING TO.

THIS IS NOT ANY KIND OF TRADITIONAL WAR OF SIDE A vs. SIDE B.

When you fully understand that radical Islam is a WORLD DOMINATING, FREEDOM HATING IDEOLOGY that is akin to mental illness on the order of dementia, and teaches prevarication and deceit is the way to subdue all that DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT, you will understand that ISRAEL IS NOT FIGHTING A WAR WITH OTHER HUMANS.

It is fighting a war against a PSYCHOSIS that unfortunately will place innocent civilians -- including women and children -- in its path at ALL COSTS -- to ADVANCE ITS IDEOLOGY.

So please, do yourself and this forum a favor and shut your incredibly naive mouth until you are fully educated on the topic. Cease and desist from casting blind blame in the wrong direction and promulgating bullshit. You're no better than the mainstream media.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485413


Just shut up...

and step down from that pulpit!

putin
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clappa

Yeah, look who's talking:))

Dude, you couldn't have missed the point of islam more, even if you tried.

What you enumerated holds for old, CULTURAL, thing (that jews and early christians share as well), not a RELIGIOUS thing.

You failed, loser.
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Is the sheer number of individuals who are so incredibly ignorant and devoid of any understanding of dogmatic Islamic ideology and philosophy -- and then go on to create an extremely distorted perspective of the situation in Gaza without proper understanding of the reality at hand.

Have you READ the Qu'ran? Do you know what Sharia law is? Do you know this religion is bigoted beyond comprehension, at complete odds with the rest of the free world? That to this day they will stone women and gays? Do you understand Palestine is a word created in recent history to reflect displaced Arabs that mostly subscribe to this ideology???

Or will you continue to bark the same shit without educating yourself?

If you do not know what the true face of the religion is about, DO NOT OPINE about Israel and its operation in Gaza, because you have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR REFERRING TO.

THIS IS NOT ANY KIND OF TRADITIONAL WAR OF SIDE A vs. SIDE B.

When you fully understand that radical Islam is a WORLD DOMINATING, FREEDOM HATING IDEOLOGY that is akin to mental illness on the order of dementia, and teaches prevarication and deceit is the way to subdue all that DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT, you will understand that ISRAEL IS NOT FIGHTING A WAR WITH OTHER HUMANS.

It is fighting a war against a PSYCHOSIS that unfortunately will place innocent civilians -- including women and children -- in its path at ALL COSTS -- to ADVANCE ITS IDEOLOGY.

So please, do yourself and this forum a favor and shut your incredibly naive mouth until you are fully educated on the topic. Cease and desist from casting blind blame in the wrong direction and promulgating bullshit. You're no better than the mainstream media.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485413


Your extra chromosome is talking again.
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Please -- you and you like you -- PLEASE reply to this publicly so everyone can see the TRUE EVIL in this world is the IGNORANCE that you blindly advertise. Your nonsensical responses only serve to prove the point further.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485413


What an obnoxious OP you are.

I'm only on page one, and I see anyone who does not agree with you gets insulted by you.

I've read books on Islam, this was around 20 years ago when we weren't directed to hate them yet.

Billions of people are Muslim, most of them are normal people, not dangerous radicals like you OP appear to be.
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Is the sheer number of individuals who are so incredibly ignorant and devoid of any understanding of dogmatic Islamic ideology and philosophy -- and then go on to create an extremely distorted perspective of the situation in Gaza without proper understanding of the reality at hand.

Have you READ the Qu'ran? Do you know what Sharia law is? Do you know this religion is bigoted beyond comprehension, at complete odds with the rest of the free world? That to this day they will stone women and gays? Do you understand Palestine is a word created in recent history to reflect displaced Arabs that mostly subscribe to this ideology???

Or will you continue to bark the same shit without educating yourself?

If you do not know what the true face of the religion is about, DO NOT OPINE about Israel and its operation in Gaza, because you have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR REFERRING TO.

THIS IS NOT ANY KIND OF TRADITIONAL WAR OF SIDE A vs. SIDE B.

When you fully understand that radical Islam is a WORLD DOMINATING, FREEDOM HATING IDEOLOGY that is akin to mental illness on the order of dementia, and teaches prevarication and deceit is the way to subdue all that DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT, you will understand that ISRAEL IS NOT FIGHTING A WAR WITH OTHER HUMANS.

It is fighting a war against a PSYCHOSIS that unfortunately will place innocent civilians -- including women and children -- in its path at ALL COSTS -- to ADVANCE ITS IDEOLOGY.

So please, do yourself and this forum a favor and shut your incredibly naive mouth until you are fully educated on the topic. Cease and desist from casting blind blame in the wrong direction and promulgating bullshit. You're no better than the mainstream media.
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This needs to be said, again and again and again.
Thank you.
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Is the sheer number of individuals who are so incredibly ignorant and devoid of any understanding of dogmatic Islamic ideology and philosophy -- and then go on to create an extremely distorted perspective of the situation in Gaza without proper understanding of the reality at hand.

Have you READ the Qu'ran? Do you know what Sharia law is? Do you know this religion is bigoted beyond comprehension, at complete odds with the rest of the free world? That to this day they will stone women and gays? Do you understand Palestine is a word created in recent history to reflect displaced Arabs that mostly subscribe to this ideology???

Or will you continue to bark the same shit without educating yourself?

If you do not know what the true face of the religion is about, DO NOT OPINE about Israel and its operation in Gaza, because you have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR REFERRING TO.

THIS IS NOT ANY KIND OF TRADITIONAL WAR OF SIDE A vs. SIDE B.

When you fully understand that radical Islam is a WORLD DOMINATING, FREEDOM HATING IDEOLOGY that is akin to mental illness on the order of dementia, and teaches prevarication and deceit is the way to subdue all that DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT, you will understand that ISRAEL IS NOT FIGHTING A WAR WITH OTHER HUMANS.

It is fighting a war against a PSYCHOSIS that unfortunately will place innocent civilians -- including women and children -- in its path at ALL COSTS -- to ADVANCE ITS IDEOLOGY.

So please, do yourself and this forum a favor and shut your incredibly naive mouth until you are fully educated on the topic. Cease and desist from casting blind blame in the wrong direction and promulgating bullshit. You're no better than the mainstream media.
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Your extra chromosome is talking again.
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Please -- you and you like you -- PLEASE reply to this publicly so everyone can see the TRUE EVIL in this world is the IGNORANCE that you blindly advertise. Your nonsensical responses only serve to prove the point further.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485413


What an obnoxious OP you are.

I'm only on page one, and I see anyone who does not agree with you gets insulted by you.

I've read books on Islam, this was around 20 years ago when we weren't directed to hate them yet.

Billions of people are Muslim, most of them are normal people, not dangerous radicals like you OP appear to be.
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Its called true passion and understanding of the road were on. The OPs delivery is passion.
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If it is "amerikan" or patriotic to support Israel; I am neither.....
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Sad. There was a time in this country (AmeriCa) when Israel was our good ally and friend, and we would support her to the death.

Now, with a MOOSLIM potus, we see her as a pariah and want her annhialated (sp). WHY do so many AmeriCans hate Israel? What makes them so "dangerous" or hated? I'm confused. Just a "religious" country of peoples who want to live in peace ON THEIR OWN LAND.

Notwithstanding that the LORD gave them that land......that's a whole 'nother issue, which always stirs up hatred.

Curious.
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America should once again become an isolationist nation, it's the only way we will survive.

Maybe then the religitards (they're all equally evil and dangerous) would settle down too.
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Who are you to tell people which way of living is the right one? If people like to live under sharia and believe in allah, who are you to tell them they may not?
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No question this is true! But that's NOT what is going on. MOST Muslims want to KILL anyone who does not agree with their "religion."

If Muslims would just "live in peace" and "live under sharia if that is what they want" WITHOUT TRYING TO MAKE EVERYONE ELSE BELIEVE IT, I would be oK with it.
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80% of U.S. Mosques Teach Violence

Last week came new confirmation that mosques in the U.S. aren’t quite holding potluck suppers and teaching civic pieties. A new study has demonstrated that 80% of mosques right in this country are teaching jihad warfare and Islamic supremacism.

Researchers Mordechai Kedar and David Yerushalmi reported in the Summer 2011 issue of Middle East Quarterly about a new survey that found that “51% of mosques had texts that either advocated the use of violence in the pursuit of a Sharia-based political order or advocated violent jihad as a duty that should be of paramount importance to a Muslim.” Another 30% of mosques in the United States “had only texts that were moderately supportive of violence,” while only “19% had no violent texts at all.”

This yet again contradicts the universally held assumption that U.S. mosques are completely benign institutions, in all respects equivalent to churches and synagogues. As long ago as 1998, Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani, a Sufi leader, visited 114 mosques in the United States. Then he gave testimony before a State Department open forum in January 1999 declaring that Islamic supremacists controlled most mosques in America .

“The most dangerous thing that is going on now in these mosques,” Kabbani said, “that has been sent upon these mosques around the United States—like churches they were established by different organizations and that is okay—but the problem with our communities is the extremist ideology. Because they are very active, they took over the mosques, and we can say that they took over more than 80% of the mosques that have been established in the U.S. And there are more than 3,000 mosques in the U.S. So it means that the methodology or ideology of extremists has been spread to 80% of the Muslim population, but not all of them agree with it.”

Terrorism expert Yehudit Barsky affirmed the same thing in 2005, saying that 80% of the mosques in this country “have been radicalized by Saudi money and influence.” The Center for Religious Freedom in 2005 found a massive distribution of hateful jihadist and Islamic supremacist material in mosques in this country. The Mapping Sharia Project’s 2008 study likewise found that upwards of 80% of mosques in America were preaching hatred of Jews and Christians and the necessity ultimately to impose Islamic rule.

And in June 2008, federal investigators found that the Islamic Saudi Academy in Virginia, despite promises to stop teaching such material, was still using books that advocated that apostates from Islam be executed and that it was permissible for Muslims to kill and seize the property of “polytheists.”

What is most arresting about these studies is their unanimity. Although each was conducted independently of the others, they all came to the same conclusion: that around three-quarters of mosques in this country are teaching what amounts to sedition. And yet the mainstream media has shown about as much interest in the new survey as they did in the others—that is, none at all.

Maybe they figure that it could be worse. After all, in recent years we have seen mosques used to preach hatred, to spread exhortations to terrorist activity, to house a bomb factory, to store weapons, to disseminate messages from Osama bin Laden, to demand that non-Muslims conform to Islamic dietary restrictions, to fire on American troops, to fire upon Indian troops and to train jihadists. But most of that took place outside the United States, so who cares? We know the mosques inside this country are different! And on what do we base this certainty? Why, nothing, nothing at all except for the bland and smiling assurances of Muslim leaders in this country that mosques are simply places of worship, no more, no less, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is a greasy Islamophobe.

It is time to be more realistic. At the very least, reporters all over the country should be asking pointed questions of local mosque leaders about the books they’re using and what they’re teaching in general. And they should call on them to give honest, verifiable answers.

It is more likely, however, that this study, like the others, will simply be ignored. But don’t let that happen. Call upon your elected officials and the media to take notice of this new survey. Our freedoms depend on it.
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These mosques are being used as "Sleeper Cells" waiting to attack Americans from within.
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Is the sheer number of individuals who are so incredibly ignorant and devoid of any understanding of dogmatic Islamic ideology and philosophy -- and then go on to create an extremely distorted perspective of the situation in Gaza without proper understanding of the reality at hand.

Have you READ the Qu'ran? Do you know what Sharia law is? Do you know this religion is bigoted beyond comprehension, at complete odds with the rest of the free world? That to this day they will stone women and gays? Do you understand Palestine is a word created in recent history to reflect displaced Arabs that mostly subscribe to this ideology???

Or will you continue to bark the same shit without educating yourself?

If you do not know what the true face of the religion is about, DO NOT OPINE about Israel and its operation in Gaza, because you have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR REFERRING TO.

THIS IS NOT ANY KIND OF TRADITIONAL WAR OF SIDE A vs. SIDE B.

When you fully understand that radical Islam is a WORLD DOMINATING, FREEDOM HATING IDEOLOGY that is akin to mental illness on the order of dementia, and teaches prevarication and deceit is the way to subdue all that DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT, you will understand that ISRAEL IS NOT FIGHTING A WAR WITH OTHER HUMANS.

It is fighting a war against a PSYCHOSIS that unfortunately will place innocent civilians -- including women and children -- in its path at ALL COSTS -- to ADVANCE ITS IDEOLOGY.

So please, do yourself and this forum a favor and shut your incredibly naive mouth until you are fully educated on the topic. Cease and desist from casting blind blame in the wrong direction and promulgating bullshit. You're no better than the mainstream media.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485413


You fucking ignorant prick.

For a start off, you have NEVER read the Quran and you have NEVER studied Sharia Law, otherwise you would see that it is a very peacful religion but some have taken some of the writings in a literal manner.

Ooh, that sound familiar doesnt it?? I havnt read the bible but I bet I could sit there and study it and pick out some pretty barbaric writings in there too. There are a shitload of christians who are fucking crazy crazy bastards, and a lot of them have spent the last 2000 yrs slaughtering billions of people because of it.

Now listen you little sweat stain. FUCK OFF AND DIE.
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They are all morons worshipping a rock.
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Is the sheer number of individuals who are so incredibly ignorant and devoid of any understanding of dogmatic Islamic ideology and philosophy -- and then go on to create an extremely distorted perspective of the situation in Gaza without proper understanding of the reality at hand.

Have you READ the Qu'ran? Do you know what Sharia law is? Do you know this religion is bigoted beyond comprehension, at complete odds with the rest of the free world? That to this day they will stone women and gays? Do you understand Palestine is a word created in recent history to reflect displaced Arabs that mostly subscribe to this ideology???

Or will you continue to bark the same shit without educating yourself?

If you do not know what the true face of the religion is about, DO NOT OPINE about Israel and its operation in Gaza, because you have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR REFERRING TO.

THIS IS NOT ANY KIND OF TRADITIONAL WAR OF SIDE A vs. SIDE B.

When you fully understand that radical Islam is a WORLD DOMINATING, FREEDOM HATING IDEOLOGY that is akin to mental illness on the order of dementia, and teaches prevarication and deceit is the way to subdue all that DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT, you will understand that ISRAEL IS NOT FIGHTING A WAR WITH OTHER HUMANS.

It is fighting a war against a PSYCHOSIS that unfortunately will place innocent civilians -- including women and children -- in its path at ALL COSTS -- to ADVANCE ITS IDEOLOGY.

So please, do yourself and this forum a favor and shut your incredibly naive mouth until you are fully educated on the topic. Cease and desist from casting blind blame in the wrong direction and promulgating bullshit. You're no better than the mainstream media.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485413


Yeah, USA and Israel are always the good guys. Just blame religion on every single thing the muslin do, even when they are just trying to defend themselves.

Terrorism exists in both sides of the war. I take problems when innocent civilians are targeted (yes, EVEN muslin).

"They are not humans" - Hahaha you make me laugh, not every muslin in this planet believes what their most radical fundamentalists believe. You're full of shit.

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