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Women who went through C-sections...

 
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i had 2 natural births. both very quick and 'relatively easy'

its a weird enough experience as it is without having a whole chunk of the experience removed

one minute, no baby.... unconsciousness.... the next minute... a baby!

goes without saying that there is a bit of a disconnect, physically and psychologically, because it just didnt happen. otherwise, why make the who process so inconvenient? why didnt mother nature make it more like sneezing? its about the experience

but what can you do if you need the op? nothing. not judging you ladies!

i am highly suspicious of any woman who opts for a c-section for no reason other than vanity. too posh to push? pfft. may you be cursed with a 1000 sleepless nights. although youd probably hire a nanny for that
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C-section saved mine and my babies life.

48 hours labour at 2 minutes apart with no dilation = emergency c-section.

As it was, I was so weak I contracted pneumonia and it took me 6 months to recover from my first.

The second child they gave me a 5% chance of having a normal birth.
When my water broke, I told them to wheel me into the operating room cuz I sure as hell wasn't doing that a second time!
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I had 4 c-sections. Tried a natural birth for first but had "failure to prgress" after water had broken and 16 hours of induced labor. Each child thereafter was predicted to be larger so I had 3 repeat sections. My first child was born 20 years ago.

I am very grateful for the C-section technique. Essentially the same thing happened to my grandmother as happened to me, and she lost her first child and was in a coma afterward.

After the baby arrives, I don't think that there is a difference. Sometimes "life" doesn't respect a mother recovering from a c-section though (for instance, I couldn't drive for 6 weeks afterward) because most people expect a quick recovery after a baby and they forget that this is actually major surgery.
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It's great to hear everyones responses here. I thought my c-section was bad, and it really was, but it's pretty mind blowing to hear what some of you have been through. God bless you all.
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I've had 4 kids...9lbs 9oz., 8lbs 11oz, 8lbs 11oz., and 9lbs 13oz.

The first and third were emergency C-sections, the second and fourth were V-backs.

I was put under general for my first C-section and felt I missed out on the bonding time while I came down off the drugs...they wouldn't let me hold her for 4 hours after I awoke.

My observation is this: My love, dedication and devotion to all four children is the same. I do not feel differently about my love for any of my kids. I do however notice that my two C-section babies are somewhat different from my two v-back babies in that they have confidence issues, and they suffer from allergies, insomnia and anxiety, where as my other two kids don't.

I have read that the physical process of passing through the birth canal is also biological and psychological. An essential enzyme and bacteria transfer occurs, and apparently the actual crushing sensation of passing through the pelvis/vagina prepares the infant for the real world outside by releasing chemicals and hormones in the process, creating a biological and psychological threshold that is absent from C-section births.

I hope this has shed some light on the issue. Having had four kids two ways does give me some insight on the subject. I am also good friends with my midwife, whom I still learn from continuously, six years after my last birth. BTW, my first two were OB/GYN babies and the last two were midwifery babies and I very highly recommend midwifery to anyone who has access to it. The care I received from the midwives (even during my c-section) was exceptional.

hf Heart flowers to all moms and kids out there. Celebrate life and love.
 Quoting: ExoPoliChick


I agree with you about the midwife. She stayed by me for 24 hours of labor, then we had to go to the hospital and she was there and up for another 24 hours. Keeping me comfortable, and keeping all the nurses/doctors in check and really keeping a close eye on everything as it was happening. I thought once I went to the hospital she'd just transfer me over to their care, I couldn't believe how much dedication she had. Really remarkable.
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i had 2 natural births. both very quick and 'relatively easy'

its a weird enough experience as it is without having a whole chunk of the experience removed

one minute, no baby.... unconsciousness.... the next minute... a baby!

goes without saying that there is a bit of a disconnect, physically and psychologically, because it just didnt happen. otherwise, why make the who process so inconvenient? why didnt mother nature make it more like sneezing? its about the experience

but what can you do if you need the op? nothing. not judging you ladies!

i am highly suspicious of any woman who opts for a c-section for no reason other than vanity. too posh to push? pfft. may you be cursed with a 1000 sleepless nights. although youd probably hire a nanny for that
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27667491


It is reallly really strange to be pregnanat, unconscious, and then awake and not pregnant because the baby came out. I can't even really describe it. Waking up after that its just...strange...

Most women don't have to be unconscious though for the C-section. Drs. usually drape a towel up so you can't see the operation but you stay conscious the whole time.

Also, While some women do get it for convenice and vanity issues, like you say, I really think that is a very small minority. Most c-sections I think really are to ensure safety for the mom and baby. Think back 100 years or so ago when childbirth was a highly dangerous thing.

I think women should go for natural birth if they can. I wanted to do that so bad and it must be a wonderful experience, just doesn't work out sometimes how you want it to.
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P.S. Want to add: What makes her a dumb bitch in my mind is that she obviously had no consideration of the future or long term potential consequences of her statement about her child's delivery. It's a documentary. It'll be around for a while. Will her child view it? How will it make that child feel? Etc etc. That's what makes her a dumb bitch. It's one thing to feel that something is different or "missing". It's a whole other ballgame when you utter such a thing in such a permanent, public, and identifiable fashion.
 Quoting: ArmchairObserver


If only everyone were like you :-( glad they are not. Many women say what she said. For some, c-section was a regretful choice because they chose the c section for vain reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1602523


i will tell you, yes, i am vain.

god of this world taught people to think that wanting to look the best for my husband, out of sheer respect for him, is vain.

that looks don't matter and brains do..

newsflash, brains are as temporary as looks, i can get alsimer's, i can get shot in the head or just go senile, as much as we all get old and lose our looks...

of course looks don't matter, nothing does, and YET everything matters a little bit....

yes, i am vain, i do not want my husband to have an ugly face, body or vagina to have to love, and no amount of god's propaganda will make me feel bad about it...

and even more importantly, for once i would like to fancy what i see on the mirror and i would like to change it to my liking by my own will and efforts not praying to a raging psycho god to please give me a body i like more next time...

god thinks if he gives me a damn beard, he will crush my spirit, then i go and laser it all off and say, in your face little god...

by the same token he turns having my son into a torture that leaves permanent uglyness on ym body, and i take measures that having my beautiful baby goes as painlessly and leaves as little ugly consequneces on me as i can...

yes i am vain, and i so do not consider it my bad trait.

vain is only a bad word coz we wrongly assume that wanting to be pretty is wrong as oppose to wanting to be smart.

both are needed, and since it has never been easier to change what god gave us, we should all use esthetic surgery in a heatlhy conscience way, with help of professional responsible doctors.

i am not saying operate on people who did not work out their psychological issues, but like it's done so many times and ends up in rich freaks walking around looking like aliens, i am saying make it cheap and accessible and use it like it was intended tro be used, to better the quality of human experiance int his hell hole....
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Add shallow. If your husband leaves you because your pussy not being tight enough, then that ain´t love honey.
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Do you feel like you missed out on anything because you had a C-section?

Theres a documentary called "The Buisness of Being Born", Great little film about the benefits of natural birth. Worth a watch.

Towards the end, a woman claims she felt she has a missing link between herself and her baby. The motherly bond still there, but just some "thing" missing between them.

I've heard this repeated with other women I personally know who went through the C-section.

For me, I don't feel that way. I was put under completely for it and woke up 30 mins after the baby was born. Didn't see him for another 20 mins after that.

So I feel like I missed out that part, and that part was so very important to me, but I don't feel a missing "link" or whatever between my son and myself.

I tried delivering with a midwife and the thought of hospital terrified me. Wasn't part of my birth plan at all. I eventually had to go to the hospital because my labor went haywire.

Just curious how other women feel. Is there something missing for you? What sort of bond is severed, if any?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28081453


With my first, I had him normally, and they took him from me for an HOUR. With my C-Section, I was more than clear about them doing what they needed to do, then making sure I got to have the baby. I felt like I missed out more with the first one because I lacked the assertiveness to make sure they didn't just take him away like they did. It SUCKS when hospitals do that, many of them find that bathing the baby and doing a bunch of extra stuff is more important. Unless there is a big medical problem, there shouldn't be a reason they have them for more than 10 minutes (sewing you up time aside) before they let you see them again.
As far as my kids go, NOTHING is lacking due to it, I'm very close to them, it didn't matter at all and they sure don't remember it. :)
 Quoting: Strawberrymittens



My baby got taken for about 5 days to the NICU. I had a bad infection and they did a total of 5 (maybe even 6?) little blood tests on his foot to see if he was getting an infection himself. The final test showed a a spike in his white blood cell count. So they took him. After day 3, results came in and they knew there wasn't eve an infection, but they still kept him because they prematuraly put him on antibiotics.

Don't even get me started on how many times the nurses tried to shoe me away out of the room and trying to prevent me from sitting with him. I could go on and on..

God bless those NICU nurses. They see a lot of sickness and death everyday. But having a "normal" baby in there made them really not concentrate on my son whatsover. I was a burden at some point to them.


I agree with you. Take control while you're at the hospital.

I guess I understood why they took him. Infection in a newborn baby is so very bad that maybe it was better they took the precaution, but take charge in way you can and make sure you don't get bullied away by nurses and doctors.

You have every right in the world to make some motherly decisions if you see that is beneficial to your baby.
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I have had both. Yes, c-section I hated but I didn't have a choice.

You see my first was sick and I was induced, my second I fell victim to the DR wanting to induce labor because it was easier for them, then the third was my last chance, I wanted to know what it felt like to tell my husband, "it's time" sounds silly I know. But I wanted to do it ALL natural, not just no pain meds, I wanted to go into labor stay in labor at home until I knew I needed to go.

My son has Spina Bifida and a vaginal birth wasn't an option. I'm sure him being in the NICU for almost a month has a bit to do with my initial lack of maternal instinct, but the c-section coupled with the "will he live?" and the NICU stay really took me a long time to completely fall head over heels(if you will). Don't get me wrong, I love all 3 of my children the same, but there was definitely something missing in the first months of my youngests life and regrettably, I will never get that "something" back.
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Oh I'm so sorry. I only went through the NICU experience for 5 days, doesn't compare to you really but I know how it can take a huge toll with breastfeeding and bonding. I can only imagine an entire month. God Bless.
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(I'm the OP, my user ID is rapidly changing. I have no idea why.)
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No, not really. Have given birth both ways and it's pretty much the same, at least for me.
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I figure that will be the majority response, that no bond has been severed. A good motherly bond is strong, despite maybe some misteps in the birthing process.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28081453


yup.
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hospitals are doing more c-sections than they used to.
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brings in the bucks!
$$$
 Quoting: pink cat


Also doesn't interfere with the golf game time!! Or watching the Super Bowl!
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P.S. Want to add: What makes her a dumb bitch in my mind is that she obviously had no consideration of the future or long term potential consequences of her statement about her child's delivery. It's a documentary. It'll be around for a while. Will her child view it? How will it make that child feel? Etc etc. That's what makes her a dumb bitch. It's one thing to feel that something is different or "missing". It's a whole other ballgame when you utter such a thing in such a permanent, public, and identifiable fashion.
 Quoting: ArmchairObserver


If only everyone were like you :-( glad they are not. Many women say what she said. For some, c-section was a regretful choice because they chose the c section for vain reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1602523


i will tell you, yes, i am vain.

god of this world taught people to think that wanting to look the best for my husband, out of sheer respect for him, is vain.

that looks don't matter and brains do..

newsflash, brains are as temporary as looks, i can get alsimer's, i can get shot in the head or just go senile, as much as we all get old and lose our looks...

of course looks don't matter, nothing does, and YET everything matters a little bit....

yes, i am vain, i do not want my husband to have an ugly face, body or vagina to have to love, and no amount of god's propaganda will make me feel bad about it...

and even more importantly, for once i would like to fancy what i see on the mirror and i would like to change it to my liking by my own will and efforts not praying to a raging psycho god to please give me a body i like more next time...

god thinks if he gives me a damn beard, he will crush my spirit, then i go and laser it all off and say, in your face little god...

by the same token he turns having my son into a torture that leaves permanent uglyness on ym body, and i take measures that having my beautiful baby goes as painlessly and leaves as little ugly consequneces on me as i can...

yes i am vain, and i so do not consider it my bad trait.

vain is only a bad word coz we wrongly assume that wanting to be pretty is wrong as oppose to wanting to be smart.

both are needed, and since it has never been easier to change what god gave us, we should all use esthetic surgery in a heatlhy conscience way, with help of professional responsible doctors.

i am not saying operate on people who did not work out their psychological issues, but like it's done so many times and ends up in rich freaks walking around looking like aliens, i am saying make it cheap and accessible and use it like it was intended tro be used, to better the quality of human experiance int his hell hole....
 Quoting: eve 28145061


Add shallow. If your husband leaves you because your pussy not being tight enough, then that ain´t love honey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28189796


is that how you talk to your momma?

well, have in mind i am not your momma, or your honey.
run along now, and come back when you learn some manners, than maybe we can discuss matter of the univers and spiritual depth.
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Do you feel like you missed out on anything because you had a C-section?

Theres a documentary called "The Buisness of Being Born", Great little film about the benefits of natural birth. Worth a watch.

Towards the end, a woman claims she felt she has a missing link between herself and her baby. The motherly bond still there, but just some "thing" missing between them.

I've heard this repeated with other women I personally know who went through the C-section.

For me, I don't feel that way. I was put under completely for it and woke up 30 mins after the baby was born. Didn't see him for another 20 mins after that.

So I feel like I missed out that part, and that part was so very important to me, but I don't feel a missing "link" or whatever between my son and myself.

I tried delivering with a midwife and the thought of hospital terrified me. Wasn't part of my birth plan at all. I eventually had to go to the hospital because my labor went haywire.

Just curious how other women feel. Is there something missing for you? What sort of bond is severed, if any?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28081453


I feel the only thing I missed out on was experiencing the normal way to give birth. Unfortunately, I had to have a c-section because the stupid placenta was in the wrong place (on the bottom instead of up top). No bond was severed between my daughter and I. When the nurses brought her to me the first time the first thing my baby did was latch on and nurse.

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I had a C. Had no choice and she was put on monitors in the special nursery (quasi NICU) for 3 days, so we really didn't get to bond. Breastfeeding didn't work out, probably because of that 3 day separation. I felt bad about it, but the important thing is she's healthy now. Would I have a C again? Not sure. It was quick and I didn't have to lay there pushing for many hours. Did it affect our bonding? It was the 3 days separation. If we could have had her right after the C, we might have bonded quicker. We have since made up for lost time.
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I had a C. Had no choice and she was put on monitors in the special nursery (quasi NICU) for 3 days, so we really didn't get to bond. Breastfeeding didn't work out, probably because of that 3 day separation. I felt bad about it, but the important thing is she's healthy now. Would I have a C again? Not sure. It was quick and I didn't have to lay there pushing for many hours. Did it affect our bonding? It was the 3 days separation. If we could have had her right after the C, we might have bonded quicker. We have since made up for lost time.
 Quoting: cowardlyMe 20395699


I feel for ya. Similar story here. Breastfeeding was tough for me too with the NICU. At some point, pretty early on, nurses went for the formula even though I was against it. I breastfed and formula fed simultaniously for about 3 months. It is what it is.

I too consider the V-back IF I ever have another kid. My dr assures me she did the incision in a way that it is possible, but they say 9/10 women who go through the first c-section usually have another one for the second child.
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Thanks you ladies interesting discussion

Best post I've read all day fascinating

I was 11 in natural birth

My mother said she would do it all over again

I ate my feces during birth though and had to go to icu for a while

My brother is c section and he is very different
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Thanks you ladies interesting discussion

Best post I've read all day fascinating

I was 11 in natural birth

My mother said she would do it all over again

I ate my feces during birth though and had to go to icu for a while

My brother is c section and he is very different
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Oh and she had no drugs the whole time so I wasn't contaminated

I'm not trolling just so you know
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I wish they would have also thrown in a tummy tuck along with the c-section!

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Do you feel like you missed out on anything because you had a C-section?

Theres a documentary called "The Buisness of Being Born", Great little film about the benefits of natural birth. Worth a watch.

Towards the end, a woman claims she felt she has a missing link between herself and her baby. The motherly bond still there, but just some "thing" missing between them.

I've heard this repeated with other women I personally know who went through the C-section.

For me, I don't feel that way. I was put under completely for it and woke up 30 mins after the baby was born. Didn't see him for another 20 mins after that.

So I feel like I missed out that part, and that part was so very important to me, but I don't feel a missing "link" or whatever between my son and myself.

I tried delivering with a midwife and the thought of hospital terrified me. Wasn't part of my birth plan at all. I eventually had to go to the hospital because my labor went haywire.

Just curious how other women feel. Is there something missing for you? What sort of bond is severed, if any?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28081453


i had both.
my 1st was a planned homebirth with a midwife and labour was only 5 hours and intense as hell.
did not have any pain killers. just pushed her out on my bed.

the 2nd i did also a planned homebirth, but after 24 hours i could not push her out so we went to the hospital (which we had already planned out in case and were only 5 minutes away from)
and they did a c section because i was too exhausted.
she was "sunny side up" and i think this is one reason i had a hard time getting her out the old fashioned way.

i do think the 2 experiences were completely different.

the 1st one, when she was born, it's like some energy is released that makes everyone cry in the room. it's way more emotional.

and the second time you just hope everything goes ok and when they lifted her out of me my husband and i did not cry in the same way, but had just great relief.

then i had a 3rd and i found out he had trisomy13 but i decided to go ahead with the pregnancy anyway (there was never a question in my mind. and the only reason i had the ets to find out is because at the 3 month mark we went in for the 1st ultrasound and it was pretty apparent something was wrong becaus he was missing half of his heart, so i did the test to see what he had so i could know what to expect and be at a hospital that is a heart specialist. my 1st daughter, lili has down syndrome but she is as healthy as a horse. never sick ever. had 2 colds and that was it. never tested for her. so she was a surprise but we were prepared in case because i had my 1st one at age 40) because he was my only son and i wanted to spend whatever time with him i could. then he died inside me at 38 weeks.

i opted for a c section on that one, because to push him out, knowing he was dead, would have been too emotionally difficult for me.

i'm really glad i got to have at least one the old fashioned way. i do feel proud about it that i was able to do that. the body is amazing. and it's marvelous feeling when you push out and then you have a new little girl laying on your stomach looking at you with the umbilical cord still attaching us. it's just WOW.

but in the end, of course i love them exactly the same :)
and now i can have empathy for women who go through really long labours, because i got an epidural to have the c section and that was glorious after 24 hours of pain.

i would not do anything differently tho, now that i know that an epi causes less pain. because an epidural , most often, leads to a c section in a domino like effect.

now my tubes are tied.
and i would like women to know that having your tubes tied really does screw with your hormones and can put you into premature menopause. and they never tell you that but it's true.
so prepare yourself for that if anyone should decide that route. this is a common thing that happens they never tell women about it.

 Quoting: pink cat


Wow. You really went through it all. I can't imagine. I don't sense much regret in your post at all, I'm sure thats very personal, and I don't mean to intrude, but I imagine you must be a very strong woman. Good to hear your story.

Thanks for the tip about tubal ligation. Never ever heard of that before.
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i didn't have a c-section and am thankful
BUT
i can't imagine that in a psychologically healthy woman that it should affect your bond with your baby
if society tells you it should then those with weaker wills might believe that
self-fulfilling prophecy
c-sections are just one "psychological" issue for women
that was implanted in women by those with agendas
orgasm is another
a third of women can't do it and that's fucked up
and it's also psychological
see where i'm going with this?

basically, a woman need only know herself, embrace herself and her feminine qualities as something divine, not something others can dictate, step outside the programming of feminazis and religious beliefs
and just know yourself
then you won't give a fig about what others tell you that you "should" feel because there will be no insecurities for those with agendas to feed off of

peace to all my fellow women
we're amazing
we just have to remember it
and restore what being a woman is really about...
it would change the world
hf
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If only everyone were like you :-( glad they are not. Many women say what she said. For some, c-section was a regretful choice because they chose the c section for vain reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1602523


i will tell you, yes, i am vain.

god of this world taught people to think that wanting to look the best for my husband, out of sheer respect for him, is vain.

that looks don't matter and brains do..

newsflash, brains are as temporary as looks, i can get alsimer's, i can get shot in the head or just go senile, as much as we all get old and lose our looks...

of course looks don't matter, nothing does, and YET everything matters a little bit....

yes, i am vain, i do not want my husband to have an ugly face, body or vagina to have to love, and no amount of god's propaganda will make me feel bad about it...

and even more importantly, for once i would like to fancy what i see on the mirror and i would like to change it to my liking by my own will and efforts not praying to a raging psycho god to please give me a body i like more next time...

god thinks if he gives me a damn beard, he will crush my spirit, then i go and laser it all off and say, in your face little god...

by the same token he turns having my son into a torture that leaves permanent uglyness on ym body, and i take measures that having my beautiful baby goes as painlessly and leaves as little ugly consequneces on me as i can...

yes i am vain, and i so do not consider it my bad trait.

vain is only a bad word coz we wrongly assume that wanting to be pretty is wrong as oppose to wanting to be smart.

both are needed, and since it has never been easier to change what god gave us, we should all use esthetic surgery in a heatlhy conscience way, with help of professional responsible doctors.

i am not saying operate on people who did not work out their psychological issues, but like it's done so many times and ends up in rich freaks walking around looking like aliens, i am saying make it cheap and accessible and use it like it was intended tro be used, to better the quality of human experiance int his hell hole....
 Quoting: eve 28145061


Not for the faint of heart, but needs to be said in response to Ms. Vain.

Yeah, if the C-section goes well but I'm permanently scarred by my first c-section. You see, the doctor was really very tired, overworked and didn't do a few things right in his urgency to save our lives. A week later, the incision ruptured while I was on the phone with a nurse. I was so confused at the pinkish fluid gushing out of my abdomen and spilling onto the floor that I told the nurse that I thought I had wet myself. My incision had ruptured open leaving a gaping hole in my abdomen about 2 1/2 inches long and one inch wide. The doctors were so alarmed by this that they left it open so it would slowly close over time in case fluid backed up again. I had an open hole in my abdomen for a couple of months and daily doctor appointments to make sure I was okay. In the end, I used to cry in the tub because it left a deep divot and wretched scar in my abdomen that would hold water from the bath. I was very grateful on my second c-section when that doctor repaired the damage so I no longer have that. I actually cried. Problem is, the incision along the muscle layer also ripped open. Muscle doesn't heal well and no second c-section work could fix that one. I have to be careful when I stand up because I'll get a ripping pain from time to time. Oh yeah, c-sections are the way to go. You bet.

The second c-section? Oh I nearly just bled to death. That one was planned. I'll never forget when the nurse rolled me over and found a blood soaked hospital bed beneath me. They gave me contractions to stop the bleeding. Imagine contractions on fresh incisions. It was AMAZING.

C-sections are for when it's needed. Take it from me, I know all too well. I can no longer have children because of my two c-sections. That's fine with me because two is enough. I'll be in hell though should birth control fail. I'll have to choose risking my thinned abdomenal lining due to c-sections rupturing and death or an abortion. Last I checked, that problem doesn't happen with natural childbirth....

Yeah, way safer indeed. Might as well get a zipper installed, right?
 Quoting: ArmchairObserver


also i'm sorry about your belly, i hope you are better now...i wld hug you if i could, stupid irresponsible doctors, i would kill them all if i could.

hf
 Quoting: eve 28145061


I am, too. The thinning of my abdomenal lining is due to the c-sections themselves and women that have their children by c-section all have a cap on how many they can have. Great for population control really. However, let's get one thing straight. These doctors were not stupid or irresponsible. Both of them saved my life. The stupid and irresponsible ones were the ones that pushed me to attempt natural delivery for the preceding 54 hours. Don't you dare call the ones that saved my life irresponsible and stupid. I owe them EVERYTHING. Neither could help what happened as a result of the c-sections. Not everybody heals the same way or bleeds the same way.

There's a whole lot that is natural in this world. Open your freaking eyes.
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Well, if I didn't have the C-section may child might have died. I had an epideral. I was awake during the process and saw him before they wisked him away. He was a 10 by the way! Beautiful head! I didn't feel the first labor pain! Don't feel like I missed a thing!
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I wish i hadn't felt ANY labor pains. It was so traumatic! I didn't think i'd live through it and swore to never have another child. No, seriously. It was some of the worst pain I've ever been through, but I knew I'd live.
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I had a c-section with my daughter. I was in labor for over 24 hours. I went into labor at 1:00 on a Thursday and stayed at work until 11:00 pm. I was intending to try and deliver my daughter at home but after my water broke I told everyone we have to go to the hospital. I tried to deliver the baby about an hour or so after my water broke because I thought she was about to arrive. The nurses came in and said I was at 5 cm and not close enough. I finally got the epidural and actually took a little nap. I tried the rest of the day to push by I never went over 5 cm. It actually shrunk....

At about 5:00 it had been 12 hours since my water broke and the doctor said he was going to do a c-section. I was awake the entire time and heard her first cry. I insisted on being awake. I didn't see until the cleaned her up. I really didn't feel like I missed anything as I tried so hard for so long and it was to make sure she didn't have any troubles. After 12 hours they want the baby out of there.

At the very end of the surgery the epidural wore off around my chest and I screamed at one point when they were putting me back together. Not as bad as the labor...but painful.
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After I got to the hospital with a failed 4 hour (Give or take) natural delivery attempt, I had to wait about 5 hours before I got the C-section. For some reason they didn't consider me in absolute need of an emergency c-section.

Anyway, I remember those 5 hours of waiting and just being completely dehydrated. They wouldn't let me drink anything. My family snuck me a few tiny sips of the beautiful icy cold water in the hospital-provided-water-bottle staring at me right in front of my bed.

Anyone else get denied water? There was a lot of worse pains going on that day, but that to me was just awful at the time. Kinda funny now though to think about it.

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i will tell you, yes, i am vain.

god of this world taught people to think that wanting to look the best for my husband, out of sheer respect for him, is vain.

that looks don't matter and brains do..

newsflash, brains are as temporary as looks, i can get alsimer's, i can get shot in the head or just go senile, as much as we all get old and lose our looks...

of course looks don't matter, nothing does, and YET everything matters a little bit....

yes, i am vain, i do not want my husband to have an ugly face, body or vagina to have to love, and no amount of god's propaganda will make me feel bad about it...

and even more importantly, for once i would like to fancy what i see on the mirror and i would like to change it to my liking by my own will and efforts not praying to a raging psycho god to please give me a body i like more next time...

god thinks if he gives me a damn beard, he will crush my spirit, then i go and laser it all off and say, in your face little god...

by the same token he turns having my son into a torture that leaves permanent uglyness on ym body, and i take measures that having my beautiful baby goes as painlessly and leaves as little ugly consequneces on me as i can...

yes i am vain, and i so do not consider it my bad trait.

vain is only a bad word coz we wrongly assume that wanting to be pretty is wrong as oppose to wanting to be smart.

both are needed, and since it has never been easier to change what god gave us, we should all use esthetic surgery in a heatlhy conscience way, with help of professional responsible doctors.

i am not saying operate on people who did not work out their psychological issues, but like it's done so many times and ends up in rich freaks walking around looking like aliens, i am saying make it cheap and accessible and use it like it was intended tro be used, to better the quality of human experiance int his hell hole....
 Quoting: eve 28145061


Not for the faint of heart, but needs to be said in response to Ms. Vain.

Yeah, if the C-section goes well but I'm permanently scarred by my first c-section. You see, the doctor was really very tired, overworked and didn't do a few things right in his urgency to save our lives. A week later, the incision ruptured while I was on the phone with a nurse. I was so confused at the pinkish fluid gushing out of my abdomen and spilling onto the floor that I told the nurse that I thought I had wet myself. My incision had ruptured open leaving a gaping hole in my abdomen about 2 1/2 inches long and one inch wide. The doctors were so alarmed by this that they left it open so it would slowly close over time in case fluid backed up again. I had an open hole in my abdomen for a couple of months and daily doctor appointments to make sure I was okay. In the end, I used to cry in the tub because it left a deep divot and wretched scar in my abdomen that would hold water from the bath. I was very grateful on my second c-section when that doctor repaired the damage so I no longer have that. I actually cried. Problem is, the incision along the muscle layer also ripped open. Muscle doesn't heal well and no second c-section work could fix that one. I have to be careful when I stand up because I'll get a ripping pain from time to time. Oh yeah, c-sections are the way to go. You bet.

The second c-section? Oh I nearly just bled to death. That one was planned. I'll never forget when the nurse rolled me over and found a blood soaked hospital bed beneath me. They gave me contractions to stop the bleeding. Imagine contractions on fresh incisions. It was AMAZING.

C-sections are for when it's needed. Take it from me, I know all too well. I can no longer have children because of my two c-sections. That's fine with me because two is enough. I'll be in hell though should birth control fail. I'll have to choose risking my thinned abdomenal lining due to c-sections rupturing and death or an abortion. Last I checked, that problem doesn't happen with natural childbirth....

Yeah, way safer indeed. Might as well get a zipper installed, right?
 Quoting: ArmchairObserver


also i'm sorry about your belly, i hope you are better now...i wld hug you if i could, stupid irresponsible doctors, i would kill them all if i could.

hf
 Quoting: eve 28145061


I am, too. The thinning of my abdomenal lining is due to the c-sections themselves and women that have their children by c-section all have a cap on how many they can have. Great for population control really. However, let's get one thing straight. These doctors were not stupid or irresponsible. Both of them saved my life. The stupid and irresponsible ones were the ones that pushed me to attempt natural delivery for the preceding 54 hours. Don't you dare call the ones that saved my life irresponsible and stupid. I owe them EVERYTHING. Neither could help what happened as a result of the c-sections. Not everybody heals the same way or bleeds the same way.

There's a whole lot that is natural in this world. Open your freaking eyes.
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I had 4 c-sections and I've heard of women having many more. I think one of the Kennedy wives (Ethel?) had 9.
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Not for the faint of heart, but needs to be said in response to Ms. Vain.

Yeah, if the C-section goes well but I'm permanently scarred by my first c-section. You see, the doctor was really very tired, overworked and didn't do a few things right in his urgency to save our lives. A week later, the incision ruptured while I was on the phone with a nurse. I was so confused at the pinkish fluid gushing out of my abdomen and spilling onto the floor that I told the nurse that I thought I had wet myself. My incision had ruptured open leaving a gaping hole in my abdomen about 2 1/2 inches long and one inch wide. The doctors were so alarmed by this that they left it open so it would slowly close over time in case fluid backed up again. I had an open hole in my abdomen for a couple of months and daily doctor appointments to make sure I was okay. In the end, I used to cry in the tub because it left a deep divot and wretched scar in my abdomen that would hold water from the bath. I was very grateful on my second c-section when that doctor repaired the damage so I no longer have that. I actually cried. Problem is, the incision along the muscle layer also ripped open. Muscle doesn't heal well and no second c-section work could fix that one. I have to be careful when I stand up because I'll get a ripping pain from time to time. Oh yeah, c-sections are the way to go. You bet.

The second c-section? Oh I nearly just bled to death. That one was planned. I'll never forget when the nurse rolled me over and found a blood soaked hospital bed beneath me. They gave me contractions to stop the bleeding. Imagine contractions on fresh incisions. It was AMAZING.

C-sections are for when it's needed. Take it from me, I know all too well. I can no longer have children because of my two c-sections. That's fine with me because two is enough. I'll be in hell though should birth control fail. I'll have to choose risking my thinned abdomenal lining due to c-sections rupturing and death or an abortion. Last I checked, that problem doesn't happen with natural childbirth....

Yeah, way safer indeed. Might as well get a zipper installed, right?
 Quoting: ArmchairObserver


also i'm sorry about your belly, i hope you are better now...i wld hug you if i could, stupid irresponsible doctors, i would kill them all if i could.

hf
 Quoting: eve 28145061


I am, too. The thinning of my abdomenal lining is due to the c-sections themselves and women that have their children by c-section all have a cap on how many they can have. Great for population control really. However, let's get one thing straight. These doctors were not stupid or irresponsible. Both of them saved my life. The stupid and irresponsible ones were the ones that pushed me to attempt natural delivery for the preceding 54 hours. Don't you dare call the ones that saved my life irresponsible and stupid. I owe them EVERYTHING. Neither could help what happened as a result of the c-sections. Not everybody heals the same way or bleeds the same way.

There's a whole lot that is natural in this world. Open your freaking eyes.
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I had 4 c-sections and I've heard of women having many more. I think one of the Kennedy wives (Ethel?) had 9.
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[link to www.mayoclinic.com]

Tends to be case specific. Like I said, most women have a limit of 3 and apparently the Mayo Clinic agrees with me.
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i will tell you, yes, i am vain.

god of this world taught people to think that wanting to look the best for my husband, out of sheer respect for him, is vain.

that looks don't matter and brains do..

newsflash, brains are as temporary as looks, i can get alsimer's, i can get shot in the head or just go senile, as much as we all get old and lose our looks...

of course looks don't matter, nothing does, and YET everything matters a little bit....

yes, i am vain, i do not want my husband to have an ugly face, body or vagina to have to love, and no amount of god's propaganda will make me feel bad about it...

and even more importantly, for once i would like to fancy what i see on the mirror and i would like to change it to my liking by my own will and efforts not praying to a raging psycho god to please give me a body i like more next time...

god thinks if he gives me a damn beard, he will crush my spirit, then i go and laser it all off and say, in your face little god...

by the same token he turns having my son into a torture that leaves permanent uglyness on ym body, and i take measures that having my beautiful baby goes as painlessly and leaves as little ugly consequneces on me as i can...

yes i am vain, and i so do not consider it my bad trait.

vain is only a bad word coz we wrongly assume that wanting to be pretty is wrong as oppose to wanting to be smart.

both are needed, and since it has never been easier to change what god gave us, we should all use esthetic surgery in a heatlhy conscience way, with help of professional responsible doctors.

i am not saying operate on people who did not work out their psychological issues, but like it's done so many times and ends up in rich freaks walking around looking like aliens, i am saying make it cheap and accessible and use it like it was intended tro be used, to better the quality of human experiance int his hell hole....
 Quoting: eve 28145061


Not for the faint of heart, but needs to be said in response to Ms. Vain.

Yeah, if the C-section goes well but I'm permanently scarred by my first c-section. You see, the doctor was really very tired, overworked and didn't do a few things right in his urgency to save our lives. A week later, the incision ruptured while I was on the phone with a nurse. I was so confused at the pinkish fluid gushing out of my abdomen and spilling onto the floor that I told the nurse that I thought I had wet myself. My incision had ruptured open leaving a gaping hole in my abdomen about 2 1/2 inches long and one inch wide. The doctors were so alarmed by this that they left it open so it would slowly close over time in case fluid backed up again. I had an open hole in my abdomen for a couple of months and daily doctor appointments to make sure I was okay. In the end, I used to cry in the tub because it left a deep divot and wretched scar in my abdomen that would hold water from the bath. I was very grateful on my second c-section when that doctor repaired the damage so I no longer have that. I actually cried. Problem is, the incision along the muscle layer also ripped open. Muscle doesn't heal well and no second c-section work could fix that one. I have to be careful when I stand up because I'll get a ripping pain from time to time. Oh yeah, c-sections are the way to go. You bet.

The second c-section? Oh I nearly just bled to death. That one was planned. I'll never forget when the nurse rolled me over and found a blood soaked hospital bed beneath me. They gave me contractions to stop the bleeding. Imagine contractions on fresh incisions. It was AMAZING.

C-sections are for when it's needed. Take it from me, I know all too well. I can no longer have children because of my two c-sections. That's fine with me because two is enough. I'll be in hell though should birth control fail. I'll have to choose risking my thinned abdomenal lining due to c-sections rupturing and death or an abortion. Last I checked, that problem doesn't happen with natural childbirth....

Yeah, way safer indeed. Might as well get a zipper installed, right?
 Quoting: ArmchairObserver


also i'm sorry about your belly, i hope you are better now...i wld hug you if i could, stupid irresponsible doctors, i would kill them all if i could.

hf
 Quoting: eve 28145061


I am, too. The thinning of my abdomenal lining is due to the c-sections themselves and women that have their children by c-section all have a cap on how many they can have. Great for population control really. However, let's get one thing straight. These doctors were not stupid or irresponsible. Both of them saved my life. The stupid and irresponsible ones were the ones that pushed me to attempt natural delivery for the preceding 54 hours. Don't you dare call the ones that saved my life irresponsible and stupid. I owe them EVERYTHING. Neither could help what happened as a result of the c-sections. Not everybody heals the same way or bleeds the same way.

There's a whole lot that is natural in this world. Open your freaking eyes.
 Quoting: ArmchairObserver


most women i know who had a cessarian have normal looking, 'i had babies' bellies, just have a big scar on their belly, so i assumed somethign went wrong with your surgery.

there is no need to get snappy with me tho.

cesarian is a routine surgery in this day and age, granted, like with any surgery something can go wrong, but so can in any type of labour, especially the one you girls call "natural"

my eyes are just fine too, you really shouldn't worry, and i will have my babies any way i like, this is only my business and my husband's.

same goes for eastethic surgery.

much like you are free to knock yourself out with you natural living.
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most women i know who had a cessarian have normal looking, 'i had babies' bellies, just have a big scar on their belly, so i assumed somethign went wrong with your surgery.

there is no need to get snappy with me tho.

cesarian is a routine surgery in this day and age, granted, like with any surgery something can go wrong, but so can in any type of labour, especially the one you girls call "natural"

my eyes are just fine too, you really shouldn't worry, and i will have my babies any way i like, this is only my business and my husband's.

same goes for eastethic surgery.

much like you are free to knock yourself out with you natural living.
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You are misrepresenting caeserian sections as being something safe and what every woman should have done so they can get a tummy tuck at the same time. C-Sections are a major surgery and present a whole slew of dangers that would be entirely avoided through natural delivery. Why would I let someone give such ill advise when my experience with two C-sections has been very contrary to what you report? I'm more interested in making sure that women are aware of the dangers of the surgery itself so they can make a better, more informed decision instead of "gee, I can get a tummy tuck".

Things go wrong in surgeries. That's a fact.
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most women i know who had a cessarian have normal looking, 'i had babies' bellies, just have a big scar on their belly, so i assumed somethign went wrong with your surgery.

there is no need to get snappy with me tho.

cesarian is a routine surgery in this day and age, granted, like with any surgery something can go wrong, but so can in any type of labour, especially the one you girls call "natural"

my eyes are just fine too, you really shouldn't worry, and i will have my babies any way i like, this is only my business and my husband's.

same goes for eastethic surgery.

much like you are free to knock yourself out with you natural living.
 Quoting: eve 28274067


You are misrepresenting caeserian sections as being something safe and what every woman should have done so they can get a tummy tuck at the same time. C-Sections are a major surgery and present a whole slew of dangers that would be entirely avoided through natural delivery. Why would I let someone give such ill advise when my experience with two C-sections has been very contrary to what you report? I'm more interested in making sure that women are aware of the dangers of the surgery itself so they can make a better, more informed decision instead of "gee, I can get a tummy tuck".

Things go wrong in surgeries. That's a fact.
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u r annoying.

i cannot misrepresent anything, since i never claimed to have had a cesarian, or to be a medical professional.

i gave my opinion and you gave your experiance.
i tried to be nice to you, you got a little snappy with me....

in any case,

things go wrong with givng birth through vaginal canal all the time, that is why doctor invented cesarian in the first place.

women die in labor even to this day, jsut like people die during surgery.

i think you have some underlined control issues you gotta work on.

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